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Undervolting seems to be on the more popular side compare to overclocking nowadays.

The thing is, most graphics cards are already overclocked out of the box today due to improved cooling. Keep in mind that the GTX 1070 only used 150 w out of the box. The 2070 increased that to 175w and the 3070 to 220w. So while the 3070 had 205% the performance of the 1070. It did so partly through overclocking because it also used 47% more electricity.

I am the one who's not into overclocking; undervolting seems more efficient. For instance, in normal conditions with rx 6800 xt, I achieve 100fps at 250w. However, when I undervolt, the power consumption drops to 140-180w while maintaining the same performance.

Overclocking in the past was fine, because the components wouldn't use as much power out of the box. But now.. both my cpu and gpu are heating up my room already, undervolting seems like the more reasonable tweak.

I have a RX 6800XT AMD Model and I undervolted to 1.000 V while setting up the max core frequenzy to 2250 MhZ and fast timing with the RAM. Losing only 5% in performance while consuming 160W. That's a deal^^

The thing is today GPUs and CPUs actively overclock themselves already and are running close to their limits already... they aren't leaving any performance off the table when competition is especially stiff and is a big determiner on how much money you can sell your silicon for... the new 'OC' is undervolting and running your hardware more efficiently while maintaining similar performance or better depending on the case.

Part of why overclocking isn't really a thing anymore is because of dynamic voltage/clock control tech like GPUBoost automatically adjust their performance based on the temperature/fan speed. By default most cards are set to not make too much noise which restricts their performance, so manually curving your fans helps here. Playing in a air-conditioned room also helps, actually on that note if you live in hot location dealing with 100F/37C temps and don't own a AC the cards will actually perform worse than stock settings.

It was inevitable; as silicon fabrication gets more and more efficient and microarchitectures become more and more consistent, manufacturers are able to push their chips a lot harder without worrying about a bunch being incapable of hitting spec. We see the same with with CPUs; gone are the days of 25% gains on 4770K overclocks. That said, I feel like most people know to pull up Afterburner and push the core and memory clocks to whatever someone on Reddit says is appropriate for their card.

Undervolting is the move nowadays. Efficient, cool and quiet like you said. I had my Red Devil 6800XT overclocked, 2500/2600mhz clock speed, power limit set to 15%. Card was drawing like 330w in some games, pretty good jump in performance but junction temp was consistently 103-105 and sometimes even going up to like 108 (was playing exodus with RT enabled), mostly chalked it down to my ambient temp being really high this year. I tried underclocking but the issue still persisted until i realized I set the clock speeds too high. Dropped it to 2270/2370 min/max and that immediately fixed everything. Now it draws like 150-200w most of the time and performance is only marginally slower. I also applied a -30 offset in pbo curve optimizer for my 5800x3D and my CPU temps barely ever cross 62 degrees, GPU stays at 66/78 core/junction. I am absolutely loving this.

Bro seeing your channel grow makes me happy af. Your channel has good content and you add have a fun vibe to your videos. Amazing! I’ve been undervolting on gaming laptops and it definitely helps a lot with the temperatures. Especially when I undervolt and overclock at the same time: + Performance - Heat - Fan noise

I would love to see a "hold my hand" undervolting guide for a 3060Ti. Some games seem to stress the card to its limits and I would love to lower the limits so it doesn't blow on a hot summer day.

I remember overclocking my RX 550 back in the days and it was like a HUGE improvement, specially on the memory side! It made literally the difference between "barely playable" and "quite payable" .. yeahh..good times ^^ I would have loved the improvement to be as beneficial on my 4060... damn .. how dumb i was to purchase this card lol

Awesome video Vex, that was really interesting info on overclocking. I'd definitely like an in depth undervolting vid if you've got it in ya, it's good info to get out there for everyone, especially in light of European energy prices. But it definitely seems like modern GPU's factory clocks are very nicely balanced.

I loved overclocking back in the Pentium and celeron 300a era (yes, i am old) Since then i focused on efficiency and undervolted every hardware i had since then (whenever possible) It´s good for the enviroment, it protects my hardware and prolongs the lifespan.

This video confirmed my thoughts about performance of new PCs. I was thinking about it few years ago and it seems, that stock performance of new parts are just settings we used to call OC. I think this was made available, because manufactures has got better with base cooling systems. Not that long ago only power users would get liquid coolers for their system, fans weren't that big and there were not many of them. We see some people are getting water cooled GPUs. Cases are better too. We just need to compare all bulky with only front to back airflow to getting front, back, top, bottom and many different configurations. With all of stated above manufatures just pushed limits of base performance of the parts, cause they had default headroom. This is shown with CPUs like R5 5600 and the all of the variants. Where R5 5600, when OC it shows about the base performance of R5 5600X with similar power draw. What @Vex showed here, we see a major drop in power usage with just a little or no perfomance loss. Few years ago we went opposite way, when we traded for big performance boost, but at the much bigger power draw. It is funny for me, cause with current problems with high energy cost AMD and Nvidia should go for better power efficiency instead of raw performance at stock. With most of the models having dual bios with phisical switch they should show us, how we can get some performance uplift, but we can opt into getting higher performance, but with worst efficiency. I think a lot of casual players would be satified with this option. If I remember correctly Derbauer showed, how at 70% of base power draw RTX 4090 still could achive about 95% of stock performance. This is mind blowing for me and people aren't talking about that more. I can understand, that most of people would be interested in how much you can push products to their limits, but with so small gains it isn't even interesting anymore (for me at least). But getting good performance per your currency and even getting good performance per power used should be at front of purchasing decisions. Buying parts isn't the only cost, but everyone forgot about electricity bill.

Overclocking a Geforce 2 or something like that was a thing, sometimes you gained 30-70% performance on 1024*768 when the fps was low, that plus 70% makes a difference.

Great video, I used to be all about overclocking. Once upon a time it used to be a free FPS boost with not too much hassle, it was almost a no brainer. As you've shown, it's just not really worth it as much these days, with larger power draws, super noisy fans and instability. It's clear that GPUs and even CPUs are already pushed to near their limits now, unless you resort to impractical methods like liquid nitrogen. I'm glad you pointed out under-volting at the end, because it truly is the new way to OC your hardware.

Enjoyed the video and your channel. I feel like you are covering some good subjects that i dont see on other channels.

wishing you the best of luck, this dedication and passion will not go unnoticed. great video yet again!

Indeed, according to my tests, most games will have around 5--15% perf depending on the GPU and of course, the game. The point is that sometimes you do have more performance at around the same power draw as you can undervolt as well. Cheers!

Oldschool overclocking was pushing more voltage, more power, more clocks for more performance. Now it takes a more balanced approach, at least on nVidia GPUs. Default boost curves push way too aggressive voltages, resulting in unnecessary power consumption and lower observed clocks within the thermal and power envelope under load. While the old approach to overclocking yields higher peak frequencies, seeking the highest stable clocks at a lower voltage point ends up with higher average performance under load without pushing the power. Basically undervolting without moving the power target. Overclocking nowadays is less overclocking, more just.. optimizing. Not as exciting, but still satisfying and beneficial.

Cool , didn’t knew your channel it was in my recommended . You are right , also noticed it , went from am3 to am5 and was shocked how the situation is . The company fighting hard for high frequencies and speed and they are already so power hungry and heat up like crazy that the normal end user with traditional cooling can’t really get an more out of it without running I to thermal issues. That’s why undervolting is so popular and the new OC ^^

This video was very intresting to watch while watching the gameplay i also noticed the white flickering during gameplay in side by side comparisons (in overclock settings) i don't know if its the overclocking or Driver issue as for me i experienced it while undervolting & I also undervolted my RTX 3060Ti its been very good experience for months the power draw is less , GPU running cool , don't even know if the fans are running XD its so quiet. Keep these video coming really love your work. ❤

I recently picked up a 6700XT and while I haven't tested the FPS difference in games, I managed to get a 6% overclock while staying at stock voltages. I could probably push it a little higher if I were willing to overvolt, but like you showed here the efficiency just isn't there and I don't like increasing power draw just from a part longevity perspective. It's actually kinda interesting, because I can either stay at my current +6% situation or I could probably slash power draw by a ton if I were willing to go with -5% performance, which may be worth it but as for right now I'm pretty happy where I've landed. It does bring up a current point tho, nowadays you basically get to decide as a power user if you want to get slightly higher performance but worse efficiency, or better efficiency and worse performance, which in my mind is a pretty cool situation to be in.

Great video bro! Benchmarking and recording the data is on hell of a pain in the ass... So you have my thanks as well as my condolences 🤣😂 I delve mostly in the sphere of laptops so undervolting is way more useful or should I say mission critical than overclocking. Yet again great video, I think I've watched about 3-5 of yours by now so I think it's time I subbed 😎 Keep it coming brother

I come from a time when saving and exiting the bios was a matter of crossing fingers, OC went the same way as Crossfire and SLI, i am glad i got to experience it all, it was an exciting time for PC.

I overclocked my shitty gtx 1650 memory by 500mhz, Its insane the difference it makes.

I was thinking this exact thing recently. Then I saw your video and had to watch.

Step 1: are you gonna undervolt or overclock slide power limit to either side. Step 2: increase frequency on memory until a stable clock then -10/-20 for real world scenarios Step 3: Undervolt while stress testing each time. You are done also measuring is knowledge.

the best thing i feel you can do with a GPU is water cool it, lower temps help keep the clocks pined high, also with much lower temps you can overclock both the GPU and RAM more, next step would be a modded BIOS or shunt mod, but for the most part just a water block works best, lowering the voltage can put more strain on the VRM from my understanding, but never had a problem doing it, also to note, lowering the core voltage can also crash the thing, over all i liked your video so you know i clicked that subscribe, you seem a nice guy and entertaining so win win, keep up the work

1:03 - 1:10 is that by any chance the DDLC theme playing in the background or am I just imagining it

The little brother to the 5700xt, the cut down RX 5600 XT when bios flashed(as there are limit to the frequency) and overclocked it offers the same performance of the RX 5700 (non-xt)

great video, Another way to look at it is cards are now sold overclocked out of the box and back in the day they were undervolted. The other things is back in the day native image mattered so much more after the transition from crts. Upscale is so much better now a days even without dlss, fsr and vrr. When shooting for 30 fps or to get close to 60 every 5-10 fps was much more noticeable.

I would love a video on this tutorial on this subject on how to OC or UV your gpu

The hollow knight music is so subtle but adds a nice atmosphere to your videos

As the process nodes shrink, so do the gains obtainable by increasing power. It's logarithmic. It will continue to get worse. As others have said, undervolting is becoming a thing, because GPUs are already "overclocked" from the factory, the headroom that used to exist is being taken to eke out performance gains.

Today’s Gpu’s are pushed close to thier limit at stock (due to gpu boost for NVIDIA gpus and the equivalent for AMD gpu) that overclocking just doesn’t make sense anymore. Undervolting (not power limiting, its not the same thing) is the way to go for now. When i had my 2080 i undervolted at 0.950 V with a target gpu clock of 1935mhz. Power draw dropped by up to 80W for like 2-5fps. I got a cooler card with less noise and less power draw. No real draw backs

I personally have a Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming oc. rev 1 and got about 8.2k score in 3dmark port royale at stock. My main limiting factor there was my power limit at 275W. Still even with the stock power limit I could overclock the card to around 8.9k score. In the end I decided to flash the bios of an Asus RTX 3070 ROG Strix card which gave me a power limit of up to 350W. With that I could get up to 9.2k score in port royale. Although energy wise this decision was completely senseless, I still enjoyed the process of trying to push my card to it's max and will do so again, when it isn't summer here in Germany, so I can maybe get a little higher clock on the GPU and get to 9.3k, maybe even 9.4k score.

Very interesting thoughts, cheers for your work on this

I used a Kraken G12 bracket to strap a 360mm AIO cooler to my 5700XT. I regularly see it hitting 250W without issue. But I didn't bother tuning the overclock, I just maxed out the power slider in the drivers and let the card figure it out itself. Like you said, any modern GPU can optimize within the power and thermal budget you set. Manual overclocking is not worth the effort anymore. Put a giant cooler on it and call it a day. The same self-optimizing also seems to apply to CPU's: Next to my gaming PC I have a couple of servers running 24/7 with a Ryzen 5900X and 5800X3D. I limited the TDP in the BIOS to 45W and I'm surprised on how little performance loss there is despite cutting their power budget in half. No manual undervolting needed.

I have TUF gaming FX504 GM Laptop. After the Bios update I was locked from using Throttlestop to Undervolt my CPU. Should I really flash the bios back and undervolting it? Currently my laptop running with about 80-85 degress Cencius and become pretty hot :(

You can actually strike the perfect balance of undervolting the GPU while overclocking it without losing performance. I could set the power limit in MSI Afterburner to 75%, and I got about 5% better performance at a significant temp. change.

How are you overclockimg these card with the slider or with the voltage curve?

I appreciate your work man Your channel deserve attention ❤

I have the same 3080 pictured in the video. Its never been stable even at stock speeds. Im interested in seeing how this goes.

I think undervolting is more relevant at present. Many GPUs are factory overclocked already so there's not much wiggle room for pushing cards further provided you don't resort to extreme measures like a shunt mod or flashing a modded BIOS.

Yea, OC is not worth it these days. Temps going up can can introduce problems you didn't earlier have. Under-volting on the other hand can be greatly beneficial by lowering temps by 8-12°C, and loosing only 1-4% performance. Would love to see an UC video with these cards. Good job mate 👍🏻

It’s 1am but I’m gonna see this video through. Keep up the good work

uv + oc with raised powerlimits seems to bee the sweetspot for me. got the 5% - 8% performance boost but remaining very close to the stock powerconsumption. combined wit stuff like sam/rebar and a custom fancurve is all i need. but man, i miss the old days where you could do crazy stuff like unlocking cores with graphite or flashing the bios from the next-tier card an boom, free 30% performance ( or the smell of dying electronics )

Growing up overclocking gpus since 1990’s and sometimes getting up to 15% on average boost in fps in games was a great time. The RTX2080Ti is the only GPU that I got about 25%+ boost in performance in recent times that warrants mention. Other than that, gpus over the past 7 or so years have limited overclocking headroom. I’ve been undervolting my gpus for almost 7-8yrs as it’s yielded better temps and a small boost in fps in some titles. There’s always going to be some sort of tweak that pc gamers can do as long as manufacturers don’t super tweak their gpus for max efficiency.

You don't really want to just bump the clockspeed on AMD cards - you also want to drop the voltage a bit. My watercooled ref. 6800XT achieves higher clocks under load than yours within its stock 255W power target, because my card tolerates a -75mV voltage offset in addition to bumping the max. frequency to 2550Mhz. This does not only help with being power limited, but also with temperatures on air cooled cards. Once you've hit your chip's clock limit, there will be a steep increase in required voltage and power. That 5700XT may be able to perform within 1-2% of your OC results while drawing 30W+ less power if it were given a drop in voltage and slightly lower (like 50-75Mhz) max. core clocks. With 74°C on the edge, your junction temp may have already been close to the 105°C limit aswell - if that's the case, then the temperature headroom gained will automatically translate into clockspeed increases, so your avg. clocks won't drop as much as you would think.

OC died a long time ago already. I OCed in the early 2000s and thatwas the prime. You could unlock midrange CPUs and GPUs to above the high end models. Now all the CPUs are running at their limit already and it makes more sense to undervolt.

Because when they designed GPU's in the past, they were always on the efficient side of the frequency/voltage curve. Now they put it right at the limit out of the box with GPU boost and overclocks. To the point where I feel they often go too far. Where a 5% reduction in performance makes you lose 50-100W in thermal output. So, that noone is particularly interested in overvolting a GPU that is already running 350-450watts doesn't surprise me. Especially since it nets you no real gain, because out of the box the voltage/frequency curve is already maxed out. By the way, what most people were arguing is undervolting + overclocking. You left the Vcore at stock 1150mv. The 6700 is bad for overclocking because it has a low corecount but high coreclock. So there is literally no vertical or horizontal stretch in it.

I remember Gordon over at PCWorld saying on a stream one day that "These manufacturers are going to start taking all of this overclocking for themselves" IIRC it was in reference to either Vega or x299 where there was basically no headroom at all. They are basically doing the old Intel nonK approach of binning everything very well to the point that there really isnt much gains to be had there.........on a side note I rock a -20mv on my 5800X3D and it helps a TON.

The thing that mostly changed was the way they made GPUs and CPUs, in the past you could've gotten a 50% increase but that was because the manufacturers went for safest way to not destroy everything and that was by limiting the maximum it could go more often than not leaving performance on the table that overcloking unlocked, now that they do instead of getting away from the limit it's get as close to the limit as possible for as long as possible, that's why overcloking on this day and age isn't worth it unless you want a world record

Undervolting has really taken off recently, especially on AMD cards. I manages to get my RX 6600 running just 2% slower than a stock RX 6600 XT while only using 112 watts of power, instead if its regular 130ish.

love the effort that was an amazing video thanks vex

Why not to use MPT and bios flash with 5700XT? I got with ref 5700 about +25% in 3dMark, with max power usage around 300-350W.

Nice overvire of the current situation. I'd be interested in an undervolting vid. Sound and power reduced for the same performance has to be a winner right? I've heard the RDNA3 architecture is better at OCing and there have been reports of 7900XTX clocked to the same speed as a 4090. I've not followed this, but if it's true it kind of lines up with the reports that AMD wound back the performance of the cards due to a bug that created artifacting. Good luck figuring that out.

Great vid and yes, It did drop in Popularity but, as you show in the end Undervolting is king! I undervolted mine and applied an OC, -34 Watts les power draw, +5-7 % in Avg Fps but the big difference is the Frametime Graph is smooth, min Fps went up by 20-26% which is Huge imho not to mention ofc lower temps and fan speed/Noise (set a custom fan curve as well) for anyone curious I can provide validated 3dmark results Stock vs Undervolt+OC

Can you show us how you benchmark to compare results? I just undervolted my 3070 and it went from 230W to 160W average with 1~2% performance loss but im not sure my methods are done properly

Ok, so if I understand correctly, My 6700 non Xt has 2×8 pin, so I can overclock to better performance, right?

It’s unfortunate but very true. Kingpin’s departure was the end of an era

The thing is, these days often performance improvements are so small that most people will not bother. First pc i built had sempron 140, overclocked it from 2.7ghz to 3.7 using stock cooler and that was very noticeable in some games. But now many chips are clocked so close to the max by default that you really cant gain much. The trick to get nice clockspeed gains on GPUs is to run custom loop water cooling. But it may not be really worth the cost, only do it if you want it for other reasons than just the performance.

Oh, I certainly noticed. Especially when electricity prices became prohibitive. Today, it's all about undervolting and chip designs emphasizing lower watt per cycle. The machine I am on now, a Z97 build, is equipped with a swapped-in 4C/8T power-sipping Xeon, which idles at

skin lookin clear as ever son keep it up

You can boost memory suprisingly high to get the most benefit for FPS. My old 1060 boosted memory +900 MHz for like, 10 FPS.

I would like to see an undervolt video. Like the differences between stock undervolt and oc. And how to undervolt

Overclocking is still alive and well, boosting is doing most of the work. Power limits have been a hugely limiting factor since the 2000 series, however, there has always been thar point of diminishing returns, regardless of what component you’re working with. At some point, the voltage required to hit that next step in clock speed is causing such an enormous increase in power draw, that it becomes no longer sensible to continue overclocking. Most people haven’t had the experience, but I’ve had GTX 700 series Titans pulling over 400 watts on water, same with GTX 980s. I bet most people never heard of cards pulling over 400 watts like that until the 2080 Ti. I miss the days of modded bios unlocking all the limitations, but cards today are too expensive to risk to craziness like that. I have my 4090 flashed to a higher power target, but that point of diminishing returns comes close to the factory spec, which is kinda nice in most circumstances. My launch day MSI Trio 4090 can hit 3 GHz, +1500 on VRAM, my 13900K is good for 5.9 GHz all P core, I’d say that’s a pretty good result. On my 4090 I only usually run it at 2925/+1000 because that is the most efficient overclock that’s close enough. I’ll push it to the max if I really need that extra 1-2 frames.

@vextakes I'd love to see a video talking about undervolting instead, I've personally seen much better performance increase vs overclocking. Less voltage = less heat = longer more consistent boost clocks.

Undervolting the core and getting the memory speed up to whatever it will handle is the best way to "overclock" today. I mean hell we don't have static clocks on GPUs anymore so it isn't any wonder that manufacturers have gotten almost all they can out of a given product. Sure you will have binned chips or golden silicon but that is rare. The days are long past where you could get your 980ti and shoot the core to the moon and add 400mhz and memory by 500+ while still being stable.

With bios signature locks being cracked on Nvidia cards this might change, the biggest issue has been the inability to raise the power limits.

I would say overclocking is just for getting that 5-10 fps more to reach a certain fps target you are fine with. Also, a mix of undervolting/overclocking will yield best results. For a combination of better thermals/higher clocks/lower noise/bit more performance/smoother frametime. It's true you might not get crazy performance uplift anymore, but I have a 6600xt, 6800, and 3070. And all are able to get a bit more performance over stock. It also all depends on game too. Likewise, memory seems to provide biggest boost for 3070 in my testing. But yeah, even 1-2 fps when you are down in the 30-40s fps range, can make the experience more enjoyable. So overclocking wont fully bump you into next tier of gpu, but it may make it fill the gap to where the next tier wouldn't be as necessary to you.

GPU Boost and similar techs really made GPU and CPU overclocking a thing of the past because that tech allows to make up for manufacturing differences and tolerances, providing the optimum performance for the situation at hand. Which is really nice for people who just want things to work. On the other hand, I got a 30 fps boost from 300 to 330 FPS in Warframe by maxing the TDP slider, and keying in the automatic ram and clock results into a custom profile on my 7900 XTX... so I think some GPUs still come crippled out of the box to meet some requirements.

Up until 2006, PCs was not too power hungry, because the slow hardware was the limit. Thats when consumer market changed into multi core 64 bit CPUs, and switching from AGP to PCI-Express became a thing. Since about 2012, Sandy Bridge / Bulldozer / Kepler / Tahiti, power draw scaled about the same relative to efficiency gains every year. Products are so optimised today, they are at about the limit out of the box. So in a way, we are at the same point as 2007, only about 2000% more efficient. We may complain about stagnating gains, but everyone has a Smartphone with multiple times the compute power of a gaming PCs from 2006, the year that single core and AGP died.

One thing I saw in your game comparisons is that the fps gain in 1% lows was far greater than the average fps gain between OC and standard settings.

Nice video :) I think manufactures maxing out GPU already 😢

Past GTX 1000 series OC became pretty much non-existant. Been owning both RTX 3060 and 3080 and the most I was able to achieve was a 3-5% performance uplift which is unnoticable while gaming, unless you stare at the FPS count, while the power draw and temperatures noticably goes up. While on the GTX 1050 2GB that was powered only via MOBO PCI-e x16, by OC'ing the card got additional 10-15% performance.

overcloking isn't really dead, but it's product dependent and silicon dependent. my current rx 7900 xt nitro (with triple 8 pins) overclocks like a monster. My adrenalin settings are max clock speed at 3.3ghz (from 2700), voltage at 990mv (from 1100mv) and memory at 2800mhz (from 2500). actual ingame frequency hovers from 3.0ghz to 3.2ghz depending of the game (normal 7900 xt are at around 2400mhz). it is an INSANE performance increase from 15-28% perf uplift depending of the games and put that 7900 xt above an XTX (in raster and RT) and above an 4080 (in raster), but the drawback is that card consume 400-430w at full load. in most games the stock 7900xt is already a beast at 1440p (my resolution), but in big RT games overclocking in my case can make a HUGE difference, for exemple in cyberpunk 2077 at psycho settings and ultra RT 1440p native i went from 35fps to 45 FPS (thats a 28% uplift) so from below 3080 RT to around 3090 ti RT in the worst RT case for RDNA. and that 45FPS allows me to play with Xess 1.1 quality at 65-75 FPS. while being at 50-60FPS without the overclock. But i agree that in many case, overclocking is mostly irrelevant now on CPU and GPU. the 7900 xt and XTX are one of the case of having a huge uplift in performance with overclocking on high end with high power limit models but at the cost of 400w+ of power.

Btw i think you can under volt and over clock gpu both in same time for exemple my rx 6050xt on furmark was running 180 182 fps at that setting while basic was 159 160 max

I recently picked up a Nitro+ 7900xtx ive been playing around with, it overclocks pretty well.

Graphics cards nowadays, much like cpus, have gotten to the point where manufacturers are pushing them as hard as is feasible out of the box, with automated boost algorithms and such. Where you will end up getting the most bang for your buck, is in undervolting. The end result of that undervolt, is that if you get good silicon, you can do the undervolt + a very mild overclock and wind up with slightly better than stock performance (like, 3-5% at most) while using 2/3rds the power, or even less. Undervolting is also a lot safer in general than manual overclocking, as there is functionally no real risk of damaging anything. With hardware that uses a thermally limited boost algorithm, that undervolt is effectively an overclock in and of itself, as it increases your thermal headroom. Of course, you still have to play with offsets to find the sweet spot for your particular chip, and a bad pull of the silicon lottery will still leave you hosed, but it's much safer and simpler to UV than it is to OC.

With all the LMG drama, I think it was their channel that had a video quite a while ago that stated plainly that overclocking just wasn't worth the effort. Even if you successfully overclock, my concern is wear and tear on the card itself. Why spend all that money on a card just to shorten it's lifespan to get a few more fps? It sounds like undervolting would be the way to go. I'd be very interested in a general guide on how to do that. I have subbed in case that comes out in the future.

As an amateur overclocker, the desition between overclock or undervolt depends on the technology at the moment. You can include overclock and undervolt in the same category, like two sides of the same coin. In today's world i recommend: * Undervolt your current gen CPU. * Depending on the model of your CPU you can overclock the GPU or undervolt it (Let's say your CPU is a 13900K you can overclock a 4090 and take advantage of that) or if you have a 5600X and a 4070Ti you can undervolt the 4070Ti because you'll be limited in some scenarios by your CPU. *And you can overclock your RAM (but it's extremely time consuming and hard to do properly, so no for the faint-hearted) If i made a table going from 1 to 10 to define the dificulty of each overclock (whereas 1 would be extremely easy and 10 would be breaking bricks with your penis hard) it'be something like this: *Undervolting GPU= 1 *Undervolting CPU= 3 *Overclocking GPU= 2 *Overclocking CPU= 5 *Overclocking RAM= 10

Now we need an undervolting comparison video of these cards

Channel's taking off! Lets go Vex ❤

I miss my R9 280 could oc from 875c/1300m to 1200c/1650m gains were insane shame it was a 3gb card with no dx12

Hey Vex. Which card is your daily driver?

Hi, did u increse the power limits?

I overclock since my first 3D accelerator, the Matrox Mystique. I also did this withe the Riva TNT cards and Voodoo 2.

You'd really want to undervolt with RDNAs. My 6900XT is undervolted at 1100mV, peak GPU load at 170W while keeping the same clock. Max out the power limit % though.

Still locking the voltage to avoid voltage fluctuation helps the most with stability on a day to day system for gaming and decreases latency a bit

im a nvidia user and im thinking of getting a amd next gpu, a video were you test cards that are the same card but diffrent brands of the same card to see the diffrences

If you want a decent undervolt, you need to OC first. Not knowing how to oc will leave you with an UV card that drops clocks to a massive extent when the card hits a power limit.

If you use more power tool on the 5700xt you can get some insane power draw and overclocks.

I have the same model RX 6700 as you, I have moved it over to an AM5 7600x setup and just waiting for my Gskill Trident Neo 5 /DDR 5 6000Mhz Cl30 memory to come in, I feel like moving it over from B550 / 5600x / 3600Mhz Cl 16 may yield a little more performance. I like the card over my RTX 3070 because of power (240watt ) and that extra 2Gb of memory it offers, maybe 3000 points difference in gpu FS score = 31,XXX to 34 XXX between them, the RX 6700 is an amazing card for one 8 pin. it leaves my RX 5700 single 8 pin in another zip code. The thing about RX5700 / XT is how many power connections it has = means the best die or worst die, 6 and 8 pin on XT means weak and two 8 pins on RX 5700 means flash to XT and beyond, so my single 8 pin MSI RX 5700 Mech was the weakest of the RX 5700 XT dies and should never be flashed or overclocked.

I'm pretty sure that Overclocking dying was a topic wayback in Pascal/Polaris era onwards especially when the Factory OC became normal even on low-end GPUs. I remember many reviewers using that as a con but they noticed both sides were on the same boat. The day when both AMD and NVIDIA no longer allows their partners to do crazy stuff of GPUs (like the MARS GPU), was the day when it all fell apart.

I would oc my gpu, but i have issue with my 5700xt. It seems to be a little unstable just running it normally. rma wasn't really an option thanks to the insane wait times

I'm planning on buying a second hand 3080 for around 400-500USD and I'm very interested to learn about undervolting like you showed at the end of this video.