I think the warmness we all love in the blackface amp here are those Oxford speakers. Both amps sound really great . Thank-you for doing this video. It has been a huge help ~

The Black Face has that sweet glassy sound. I've worked on black face and silver face amps and always find myself loving the sound of a black face. They just have more head room and that glassy, crisp sound that I love. The silver face just seems a bit darker to me. I say this but I have a 79 vibrolux that will be pried from my cold dead hands. I love that amp. Every time I think about selling it, I plug into to it and the thought of selling it disappears quickly.

This is wonderful. Thank you for putting so much thought into the dynamics, amp settings and play styles. Also, your tone and playing are superb.

They are both excellent and both far better than modern Fender junk.

Cool comparison! Both sound pretty darn good

Your playing is amazing. My bud lent me his Vibrolux for a couple of gigs and I fell in love with the tone.. practically pedal free the whole nights.. So he wanted it back.. i needed to do some research on how to get my Deluxe to at least sound a little better and more like the Vibros.. where I found this video.. I just let it play cuz I liked the soothing sounds.. great job..

Very informative, thank you for taking the time and effort to do this.

Any Fender point to point tube Amplifier is all you need...

There is such a slight difference between the two amps in this video. I backfaced my Vibrolux reverb, replaced anything microphonic and recapped all of the electrolytics. I noticed a huge difference in tone, clarity... Everything. I suspect mine was due to the old rotten parts. Lol Great video! thanks for sharing it!

I have a 62 Princeton, 65 Deluxe Reverb and a 67 Super Reverb, but I've become convinced that I need one of each model. They're just that good! Killer playing and tones mate, cheers!

Awesome demo, thanks for that.

Great video. I'm interested in a Silverface, but this now has me understanding a little of why some prefer the Blackface (warmer but not neccessarily better)

Perhaps the best amp comparison demo ever. Excellent playing as well. Leo sure knew what he was doing, despite the fact that he wasn’t a musician.

They are both great amps. I have a black face and have played silver faces. The blacks have a deeper fuller sound to my ear, and are my favorite to play my strat through.

Great comparison. Both great amps, but I prefer the siverface :-)

Really great playing and gave me a lot to think about for what I actually need. Thanks so much. Subbed!

Outstanding Fender cleans.

Thanks for tuning your guitars, BTW!

Both excellent amplifiers. Very tasty playing.

Excellent comparison!

Great demo!

A really terrific and comprehensive A-B comparison. Very useful info. I love them both, the blackface is a touch warmer in the mids, but I think the difference frankly is those wonderful Oxford speakers. I'd like to see the same comparison with humbuckers too.

Thank you for an excellent video. A black face is on top of my GAS-list. It has a fuller tone and more of the shimmering tone. Unfortunately I missed out on one of the reissues last week. But time will come, I hope.

Great video!

I really like these amps! They both sound great.

Gotta love a vintage Vibrolux and even tho I have a mint 68 SFVL, your BF sounds that much sweeter to my ears, especially in the mids.

Man, I dig your playing.

Gorgeous tones

I am lucky to have a 68 Vibrolux Reverb original, Ijust need to learn to play like you. I like the black face a little bit better and then sometimes I like the silver face a little bit better. Both great amps.

I liked the Silverface more the higher they were turned up. Blackface clearly more scooped in a really nice way. Silverface had a sweet midrange thing going on and a rolled off top end. Amazing comparison! They sound exactly like I imagine a Blackface and a Silverface to sound

I prefer the SF due to the speakers. I like to mic it with an e906 hanging so its 1.5” in from the edge of the left speaker, so it’s not far from the center of the actual cabinet. Right at the edge of breakup these amps are as good as it gets.

I enjoyed it very much. Good comparison video. 1, It was easy to understand by comparing similar phrases in clean tones. 　　There are other videos that include effectors, but the tone of the original amplifier is lost. 2, The setting commentary on the telop without the talk is very good. 　　From the beginning, if you can continue to talk for a long time (a very common pattern), regardless of the content, you will immediately stop watching. 3. It was good that the comparison by the looper was very easy to understand. 　　Even if you play the same phrase, there are slight differences in nuance (because you are human) You can calmly judge this comparison because it mechanically repeats the same thing. 4, It is also good to compare by changing the amplifier setting from the middle. A comparison of the effectiveness of each is helpful. 5. Easy to see with fixed screen. 　　It is very good that the screen does not shake due to strange camera movements. 6, the speaker exchange comparison was also very good. I haven't seen many comparison videos like this, so it was helpful. 7, The length of the movie is also good. 　　I didn't mind even if the length exceeded 10 minutes because 1 to 7 were substantial. 　 I was able to enjoy it to the end. Please let me know some of my wishes. 1, I want you to display the telop of the commentary for a little longer. 　　Non-English-speaking people like me stop and check the image several times. 2, I think that it is easy to understand if the current setting of each amplifier is displayed at the bottom of the screen. 3, I wanted you to do a comparison in the normal channel. I think there are individual differences It was very helpful overall. Thank you very much. I am grateful. at the end. Thank you for creating "audience-oriented videos" like yours. I don't know if my feelings were conveyed well in unfamiliar English. We look forward to delivering good videos in the future. From one viewer in Japan.

nice comparison!

I have never sold an old Fender Amp without regretting it. 67 Blackface Super Reverb, 65 Blackface Bassman with small 2-12 cab, Early 70s Pro Reverb. An early SilverFace Princeton Reverb. Also a great MusicMan white tolex with rare two 6L6s - one of the last ones made. I liken the MusicMan to the Blackface Bassman, but with a very good reverb.

very well done!

Great job on this! Both sound great - which is vibrolux sound. So close it becomes a price issue, so the silver wins for me. Worth twice the price? I have, and love, a silver '79. When i play at the local pubs i might get jumpy if my amp is goin for 3000-4000.

Great vid/ playing. I wish I could see so I could cop your licks man.

Love how you nail the Knopfler tones!

Nice comparison. I did a similar comparison between my stock '65 Super Reverb and my stock '72 Super Reverb with similar results. The '65 is juicier and warmer sounding and maybe a little honkier. The '72 is a little more aggressive and rock 'n' roll sounding. Both are great, but slightly different. I've always viewed the Vibrolux as a scaled down Super Reverb.

Both sound good. The blackface is a bit more organic and sweeter sounding to my ears. The silverface sounds stiffer. I'd bet the voltages are higher on the silverface, which would be typical of that period and which would make a sonic difference. There are also a few component differences between the BF and SF. I'd take the BF one all day long over the SF one. Thanks for the comparison!

I might prefer the silverface. It seems more sparkly and detailed. Maybe it has something to do with being more familiar with the silverface sound. Both sound really good.

Black is so much better, deeper, fuller, wider, sweeter, glassier, spongier, has better dynamics, more focused.

I have a 67 and had a late 70's version with the ultra linear output tranny. No comparison the old guy just compressed and shined at the same time. The latter was too clean and wouldn't break up. The 75 in this video is way closer to the sound of the blackface era. I have silver face amps from early seventies, Deluxes, Prinectons that sound just as good if not better that the blacks. These circuits stayed pretty much the same. Good day

I have a 64 Showman, I find the preCBS is missing (a good thing) some 250Hz low mids, that gives beautiful clarity, and sonic room for a mid-rangy bass/drums.

Both are great amps, but I like the full sound of the silver face a little better, in fact I bought a 2015, 68 Vibrolux reissue because of the sounds and response. I just wish it was a little lighter😂

I have a’65 and love it…75 sounds like it can’t breath

Thank you!

Great comparison! Wondering how loud they really are on levels 3-4. I am on the market for a super clean recording amp. and hesitating between the Vibrolux and a Princeton 65 reverb. Currently using a Blues Deluxe, and it is way too bassy, breaks up too early and is too loud on level 2-3 already. Do you think the Vibrolux would be a good recording amp on lower levels? My neighbours are super fine with me playing loud, but I personally cannot stand if something is super loud (twin reverb hurts on level 2 for recording:) Thank a lot;)

noice.. like both of them.... i have a 76 silverface for over 15 years now. (has also gigged) i had to change the main tubes once, and its a bit too heavy for my taste, but soundwise i can t complain. i also like that line out recording jack , for goin into soundcards or daw, or also sending other gear through the amp for beeing recorded.

Do you have any recordings of your music? I would like to hear more.

Black Face all day long!!!

Both sound amazing as does your playing.... I wish you had given us a shot of the rear of the amps as well as a shot of you and your great playing... So we're talking 2x 10" in each (?) I didn't even know there were Alnico Eminences out there... thanx and cheers

I have the SV- the only thing about it on certain gigs is that the mid "midrange" can get a bit aggressive-but that could be because I have 2 Celestion 10s in there-although I have the original speakers

0:25 vs 0:46 I like the Silverface better here. You say these are eminence alnico speakers? Are they black with a blue Fender sticker on the back? Or are the metal frames actually painted blue?

which one do i like better? dude with killer playing like yours (especially in the outro) the sound would be great even if it was coming from a solid state cheapo amp...

Nice comparison. I didn't mind your moving the cord back and forth because then it was very clear which amp we were hearing. IMO, if recording then i would give a slight edge to the BF, but i would expect for live performance in a band setting both would likely sound equally great unless there is some difference in their tone or clarity as volume goes up or pedals are added. for reference: my amps: 65 BF Deluxe Reverb, 74 SF Vibrolux Reverb, 91 Whitney SVR.44, 59 GA-18T (Gibson)

Interesting. I preferred the characteristics of the Silver.

I absolutely love both of them If i had to choose itd probably be the BF But i love both of them alot

The Silverface sounds more silvery. That's all I got, love them both

I prefer Blackface !!!

My biggest gear regret was trading my original '68 blackline drip edge for a Maz 18 head and Z-Best cab. Miss that VR!

Great demo. Both R so good. but, Blackface 4 me.

very good

Almost identical circuits largely unchanged.

They both sound great. The 1964 BF wins for me due to it's sweeter and deeper all-round articulation, balance and tonality, along with fatter roundedness of each note giving the sound more dimension - and that airy reverb is superb.

nice- there are so many variables- the silverface through the blackface speakers sound almost the same as the black face. Pots can be 20 % off so setting at the same levels dont always mean anything. In the mid 80s I went from p[laying a 58 tweed deluxe to a silverface 71 super reverb and it was a challenge player wise. I took it to andy Marshall who would become THD so he could tweek it. I had no idea that individual pre amp tubes sound different even made by the same company in the same era- we switchted out pre amp tubes and he got exactly what I was looking for- I was amazed Good attempt I like the black face more but the silverface might be better given a chance. My 71 super reverb sounds way better than my 66 super reverb

They both sound awesome and you know it! 😂

It's amazing how much of the difference was caused by the speakers. For me it's the Silverface with the Oxford speakers.

Just got a 75... holy smokes!

They both sound good to me. Not surprisingly the blackface sounds more 60s rock, blues and jazz, and the silverface sounds more pink floyd, dire straights. Basically, more presecense, openness on the blackface, more mids, less scooped, more dense on the silverface. But both sound great.

Very interresting job, but you can't realy compare two amps with different speaker, especialy if one is ceramic and other alnico ! But I love Vibrolux ! It is the perfect mix between the sound of the Deluxe and the power of a Bandmaster.

Brought to you by.....the Illuminati. ;) Seriously though, amazing how similar they sound especially when played through the same speaker.

Different preamp and output tubes? Both sound really nice; but the BF seems to have better highs and more volume ...

Can these amps handle fuzz? I wanna buy one of these and get a fuzz face to play Hendrix

i thot i liked tone kings and black faces. i couldnt figure out why i am not getting a super crystal clear sound, the silver face is meant for that.

in general if i had to choose one it would be the BF as I find them more versatile, but here I like the SF better...it has this gorgeous rubbery, metalic shimmer to it when combined with the reverb is really dreamy..Silvers can have a really boomy bass that you may have tweak and tame a bit......This blackface sounds more balanced sonically, but not as smoky and three dimensional as others i have heard and I have owned and played a fair number.......I own a 66 Blackface Vibrolux reverb that is a beast....I have owned a 71 Vibrolux reverb that was also great....It really depends on how you play, what styles you play, what guitar you play, tubes, speakers......pedals etc.... actually , i have gigged with a silver and blackface amps together. They sit in the mix differently but combine to make an even better sound...the silvers have this cool smooth, metallic shimmery thing going on which can be really beautiful when combined with the right touch, guitar etc......you play beautifully by the way....that bit at the end moved me brother!!!

I love them both, but the Blackface has more chime... great playing

21:27 best tone silverface and oxford speakers

Both are excellent, but hearing an A/B comparison-IMHO the 64 has a hair bit more definition & focus on the quieter passages.

The alnico sounds more scooped and compressed, while the oxfords sounds more natural sounding to my ears. What do you guys think? (I’m planing on purchasing my own 1965 Vibrolux Reverb with Oxford 10L5-2 Speakers🤩)

There is a vibrancy that a well tuned-up BF Fender has that a good SF Fender simply can't match, at least to my ears after 45 years of playing both, a lot. SF Fenders are good amps (I'd rather use one than most modern amps), but they suffer from inferior cabinet and wiring design and implementation, as well as being often loaded with less than stellar sounding speakers. They tend to sound a bit bassy and muted in the high end (less harmonics) as opposed to a nice BF.

There's a dog in the video. Automatic 5 beards.

Would have been better using an A-B switch...All A/B comparisons would benefit...I like both amps and they sound great to my ears using premium headphones, but I will defer to the well tuned ears of 45 years of experience. A lot of early Silverface amps still are primarily wired the same as Blackface amps using the same parts in most cases, but with a minor change to the reverb circuit to keep it from getting overheated in the Silverfaces...Bottom line is you can A/B two of the same model amps and chances are there may still be differences due to variances in tolerances of components...Bottom line is you'll probably sound great through either of these classics so find a good one and play it with a big smile on your face. I have a 71 Vibrolux and love it...Pine is divine in a cabinet as my Silverface is. As the Sagest commented, you have to play them and be in the room with them to really appreciate any differences.

Dang. The way I do this is I wait until I hear what I like and then look up to see what you were plugged into. '64 dominated. I really wanted it to be even (I mean, check prices, right?) but it wasn't close. Edit: Not saying the '75 sounded bad, but that '64 though. The speakers were a huge part of it, but certainly not all.

I hope fender reissues the blackpanel vibrolux in the 64 custom line.

There is a key between 20:50-23:50. When 75 is plugged into 64 cab/speakers, I hear absolutely NO DIFFERENCE from 64. I think speakers contribute so much for tone. The spongy, velvety 64 tone = Oxford 10L5 The twangy, crispy clear 75 tone = Eminence Alnico

The BF sounds better, it’s brighter than the SF

same knob / channel settings on both? sounds like the 1964's blackface has more clarity and definition, but still the silverface sound great. though choice.

The Silverface sounds more compressed. I like the blackface better for his liveliness

a Blind test would show 50/50 results between the 2 amps as preference

The 64 is a clear winner here. Maybe it’s the ceramic oxfords vs the alnicos in the 75. The reverb sounds better in the 64 too. And better bass response

So are you selling them or what? I want to buy one now.

Silver face sounds like two rock

Shame you didn't crank them. There is a beautiful break up of the lower wattage Fenders starting around 7.

The Silver adds a high frequency color that isn't coming from the guitar. The Blackface delivers a more authentic sound.

Very well played i had in background just for the noodles. Very tasteful. Also i own virbolux amp head only w/ 4x greenback cabinet. i should have it revised cuz elco's fckd. turn it on hear russian and french radio. voulez vous coucher avec moi?

Why does every comparison video have to turn into a contact sport. They are both great amps. Still a pretty good vid though 🙂.

When you played the Silverface in to the Blackface speakers it cane alive I beleieve the main difference was the Blackface speakers were better

Gotta get the volume above 2-3. Get the volume up around 6 at least or higher, let those amps sing.

Silver face speakers are smoother, Weber Alnico's in mine