Hobby Cheating 244 - Using Oils for Skin Tones

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Vince Venturella

Vince Venturella

Күн бұрын

In this Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through how you can use oil paints to achieve wonderful and vibrant skin tones. There is a general fear or oil paints, but they are actually really fun to work with and solve all your blending challenges in a snap. Hope you enjoy!
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@brianmacgabhann5630
@brianmacgabhann5630 3 жыл бұрын
You often come across people who are very talented in what they do, and often come across people who are generous in sharing their knowledge, but not everyone is both very talented and very generous in sharing that knowledge, so thank you very much for these videos.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Well thank you, I am always happy to help. :)
@kevinmarch5634
@kevinmarch5634 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched dozens of your videos, and my new favorite line is "Oil paints are all about the wipey. Lots and lots of wipey wipey wipey." Thank you so much for putting out such informative but straightforward content!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and always keep up the wipey. :)
@mattbaxter688
@mattbaxter688 8 ай бұрын
"The skin is pretty flat" Looks more dynamic then any skin iv ever painted
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that. I am always on the hunt for upping my skin game.
@tokoloshgolem
@tokoloshgolem 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Just amazingly informative and encouraging. I’m going to give it a shot. Thank you 😊
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
@Grumdy
@Grumdy 4 жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to this video for weeks! Wappel has gotten me incredibly excited about painting with oils, and I couldn't wait to see how you used them here too.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! :)
@dusty_gramps443
@dusty_gramps443 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of varnish do you use over the acrylics before the oil paint application? Do you varnish over the oils, amd with what Vince?
@matthewcook5017
@matthewcook5017 11 ай бұрын
Vince, this is the SINGLE BEST video I've seen anywhere on this subject - thank you!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@surfacetension4471
@surfacetension4471 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video as always Vince, thank you! It might just be KZfaq algorithms but I'm starting to notice a real resurgence of interest in using oils for miniature painting - it's great to see!!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I think we are all just tired of taking a while to get smooth blends. ;)
@nasscooper2006
@nasscooper2006 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it! One of my fav vids of yours.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was fun to do for sure.
@greywulfe9153
@greywulfe9153 4 жыл бұрын
Vince, another informative vid. I have started using oils and found it fit my style of figure painting. I feel I achieve a better result now
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've just found it so relaxing and rewarding to integrate more oils into my painting.
@MrGLeborgne
@MrGLeborgne 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for sharing ! If you like oils, you should try Abteilung range. They are designed for miniature painting (less seed oil and adapted color range like a skin tones pack). I use them for oil washes but I just received my flesh tones pack because I wanted to give a try. Your video came at a wonderful moment 😉
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, they are on my list to give them a try, I was going to pick them up at Adepticon, but...you know. No Adepticon.
@andrewlustfield6079
@andrewlustfield6079 2 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Have you tried using true metallic metals in oils? I've been gearing up to start with oils and I'd love to see a tutorial on how the TMMs work out with things like painting armor.
@Whorabl3
@Whorabl3 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, Vince. Please do tons more of this. It's like a whole new untapped world HC can explore! Also that free hand is really well done.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
More to come for sure.
@shanebirr4033
@shanebirr4033 2 жыл бұрын
so i would like to say thank you. you have actually given me the confidence to try oils. cheers.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! They are really fun. :)
@feloniousmonk5261
@feloniousmonk5261 3 жыл бұрын
This has been such a useful video, huge thanks! Hoping to see more videos on oils from you as you have a great way of explaining things so they're easy to understand. Cheers!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! There are a few more on the channel right now and more coming in the future for sure.
@SvenEnterlein
@SvenEnterlein 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video probably 5 times now. It's so satisfying to work with oil paints. I've only done it once so far for a wooden barrel but it is a lot of fun!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's very fun for sure.
@redrooster7371
@redrooster7371 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks a lot for this one. Looks really easy and I'm sure I will give it a try in the future.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
@gmoney1664
@gmoney1664 4 жыл бұрын
Love it! This was always the next video I was going to end up watching after the most recent oil tutorial
@gmoney1664
@gmoney1664 4 жыл бұрын
Also, I take it any varnish is OK to use over the top? Am currently using the Vallejo ones via an airbrush
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! and use, any varnish will be fine over the top (though I prefer Matte varnish for the most part).
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R 4 жыл бұрын
YES! SO MUCH YES! *grabs cup of tea and gets comfortable*
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed. :)
@13Robzilla
@13Robzilla 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video Vince! About using varnish as a save point I can't help but remember one of the early text only BBS games that said, "Remember player to save early and save often." Has a whole new meaning now. Thanks for sharing and stay safe!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
@gordonenquist36
@gordonenquist36 Жыл бұрын
Have read a lot of the comments made here about oils and how "fearful" some painters are. The main concern seems drying time, answer is get a food dehydrator and your oils that needed 48 hours plus to dry now only need about 8 to 12. You can also cure your acrylics in one. A food dehydrator is one appliance that goes up to 104 degrees Fahrenheit, safe for plastics, metal and resin figures or any small hobbies needing faster drying. Thank you Vince for your show and tell about oils. I have used them since the 70's and my oil tubes are still good. Back in the day your paint choices were 4: Testors enamels, Humbrol enamels, Railroad model paints and Oils. Art tube acrylics were thin and weepy ( the ones I found) and took many layers to get a good red. Acrylics have come along way and I like them for base coating faces, animals, leather items and then oils on top. My favorite "cheating" method is that I collect reference faces from magazines. Must have good natural color, have good highlights and shadows. Try to get hands also. Keep this organized in a binder and sooner or later a face on a figure will match your binder, a nice crutch. Cheers
@ProrokLebioda
@ProrokLebioda 3 жыл бұрын
Revisiting this video as I recently bought set of oil paints. I'm yet to paint a big model, but I did a lot of work in short amount of time on a cape. I have to say that I am impressed. I might've bought too bright Cadmium Red, but will what it should. I love how easily they blend. Thanks again for this tutorial!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@DrDanco86
@DrDanco86 4 жыл бұрын
recently started using oils, and they are so much fun to use, especially on large areas like cloaks and skin.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's just so relaxing and fun. :)
@Hushai1979
@Hushai1979 2 жыл бұрын
Vince, your the best teacher….. so good… I like all the Details on how to… with oils…. Skin tones you make look easy..! 😮🤠🙀👍🇺🇸 from Aiken South Carolina.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Always happy to help. :)
@sebastienlovescookieswirlc
@sebastienlovescookieswirlc 4 жыл бұрын
That is poetry given shape. Will have to try it some day.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
You should! It's honestly so much fun.
@doktorkoka
@doktorkoka Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for going into the details and all this amazing footage of blending work! That was what I was looking for, so motivating. I'm going to try this on some bootleg figures with lousy paintjob and try painting my own clay figures. Subbed. Thanks!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! You will find tomorrow's video very interesting if you enjoyed this!
@BOBHO631
@BOBHO631 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video..very helpful! Thanks
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! :)
@krisd636
@krisd636 4 жыл бұрын
You had me at whipey lol. Soonish I want to dabble into oils. Perfect video, thanks. I'm close to finishing my 1st bust from Robot Rocket Miniatures. I used all acrylic and for a novice I think its turning out good, I'll have to throw it out on the forum when finished. Been getting buzz from the other forums on progress pics. Always a pleasure being a subscriber to your channel!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, happy to help as always and can't wait to see the bust.
@jaretmoskal5558
@jaretmoskal5558 4 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this one. I struggle with skin tones and this should help a lot
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, happy to help. :)
@johnbruce4004
@johnbruce4004 3 жыл бұрын
Genuinely you de-mystified oils. Excellent (and humorous) presentation. Thanks.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@subaru4262
@subaru4262 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video.😀😀👍👍👏🏻👏🏻
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🤗
@craft-o-matic2377
@craft-o-matic2377 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this so much Vince! I was giggling throughout with the moob painting! This poor guy looks like he needs to see a dermatologist and a liver specialist. He's looks jaundiced to me! But, I did learn, and I always remember more when the teaching is done with a sense of humor! Thank you! Lisa
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, always happy to help. :)
@spaeron
@spaeron 4 жыл бұрын
A glazed neutral tone tile or a pane of glass with a neutral colored paper glued to the back make for a great pallete .pick a size that will fit in a gallon ziplock and save those paints that don't suffer from a short drying time.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, I was showing the cardboard trick here, but if you watch some upcoming oil videos, you will see my normal palette which is a large neutral colored marble tile.
@kellyaudia
@kellyaudia 4 жыл бұрын
Vince. Seriously. This is the best video you’ve done. I am dabbling in the oils and this is very very good. I like James, but this is easier to follow and you hit so many questions I had. Unbelievable. Get out of my head you devil. Liking and sharing.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! :) - This one was fun, there will be more coming in the future.
@LegendEternal
@LegendEternal 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. The first segment, about mixing your own flesh tones, was amazing.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad it was helpful. :)
@EIGHTYYARDS
@EIGHTYYARDS 3 жыл бұрын
It was. Seeing dark flesh tones would’ve been useful also. Sometimes people forget. And there is not a lot of info on dark skin tones
@Graphixman
@Graphixman 2 жыл бұрын
Been wanting to add oils to my arsenal for some time now. Thanks for explaining it so a NEWB can follow.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@caliere
@caliere 4 жыл бұрын
Super inspiring! I have the same model with a very basic skin tone. I'll be trying this for sure. Thanks for the detailed video!
@Isaac-hm6ih
@Isaac-hm6ih 4 жыл бұрын
@Scott Holder The bulk of the model is a Games Workshop giant, I assumed the other elements were converted.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Awlays happy to help. :)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
This is correct, it's the GW Giant with conversions.
@Sean-ch4vn
@Sean-ch4vn 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great tutorial, please do more videos on using oil paints for miniature painting. I know this will seem like a silly question, when you talked about varnishing after the oil paint was dry, are you using the same varnish that you use for acrylic paint? Thanks again for the great tutorial, keep them comming!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
More are coming, I am using a lot of oil painting recently. FOr varnish, I am using a 50/50 mix of Satin and AK Ultra Matte varnish (same as the Acrylic painting).
@wingwalker007
@wingwalker007 4 жыл бұрын
I , for one, would love to see this on 28mm miniatures. I was literally thinking about getting better skin tones today and this showed up in my feed.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Well, you won't have to wait too long. ;)
@bethanygraham427
@bethanygraham427 4 жыл бұрын
When I use a plate like that, or a little container of wash, I use a bit of blue tac to stop it moving around on my desk.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Good call. :)
@khendon2393
@khendon2393 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for this one Vince! :-D
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! :)
@LegendEternal
@LegendEternal 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do this with an Ork character. Ghaz skin with oils tutorial? 😁
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I don't think I will be painting Ghaz any time soon, but I do have plenty of orks around the space, so I am sure I could find something, I will add it to the list.
@LegendEternal
@LegendEternal 4 жыл бұрын
Ghaz or no Ghaz, I’d just love to see you do this with greens before I try it. Lol. Thanks for adding it to the list. I look forward to the vid!
@ptvptv3827
@ptvptv3827 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic vid Vince, I've been fascinated by oil paintings ever since I went to the Guild Hall art gallery a few years ago, and here's me no idea I could use it with my mini's! If your ever in London you should visit it, it's a bit of a hidden gem and free!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and I will have to check that out (this year aside), I am generally in London at least 3 times a year. Guild Hall art gallery, what part of town is it in?
@ptvptv3827
@ptvptv3827 4 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella It's at the centre of 'The City of London' which is a sort of self governing city state in a square mile right in the centre of London. Make sure you go downstairs as when they were building the foundations of the new gallery (the old one was destroyed by German bombing) they found a Roman Amphitheatre!
@madthinker7777
@madthinker7777 22 күн бұрын
Great video!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 21 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@ProrokLebioda
@ProrokLebioda 4 жыл бұрын
Super cool! I will need to use oils for upcoming Sons of Behemat.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know that's how I am getting my giants painted. :)
@jakoballan2768
@jakoballan2768 3 жыл бұрын
It may be because I haven't watched that many video's yet, but hearing Vince say "homeboy" at 15:55 made me laugh out loud.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
No, that's totally fair, me saying homeboy is one of the funnier things around. ;)
@hobbithubby5076
@hobbithubby5076 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, that giant’s skin looked fantastic just after your zinethal!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Zenithal does a lot of work, hope you liked the end product as well. :)
@dusty_gramps443
@dusty_gramps443 2 жыл бұрын
This so inspired me to start trying oil paints. He’s like the more aggressive defiant Bob Ross of the miniature world.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the nicer things anyone has ever said about me. ;)
@richardsanders3567
@richardsanders3567 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial answers a lot of questions for a novice
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@kelseyvanantwerp4724
@kelseyvanantwerp4724 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Vince, thank you for yet another informative and inspiring video! I just tried oil paints for the first time and am loving the results! A few questions I couldn't find covered anywhere online. 1. Since it can take over a day. How can I know when oil paint is dry/cured? Is it just a matter of time or are there any visual/tactile hints that it has finished curing? 2. How long do you wait before spray varnishing oil paint? 3. Do you varnish oil paint before adding additional layers of acrylic paint?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
1) It's just a sense of time based on the thickness, but 48 hours with this kind of thinned oil paint is always safe. 2) Until it's dry, so basically 24-48 hours. 3) Yes, in general I will always varnish before I add additional acrylic layers. You don't have to if it's completely cured, but I like to just to even out the finish.
@Virakotxa
@Virakotxa 4 жыл бұрын
That base skin, painted with an airbrush, before applying any ink at all, it's already better than any "final product" I have ever achieved... Encouraging to think all there is to learn ahead! ... If you think about it with the right mindset...
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, there are always more steps on the hobby journey, that's why it's wonderful. :)
@Zeetot
@Zeetot 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bob.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help.
@lifestylemagick
@lifestylemagick 5 ай бұрын
I suggest a Glass Palette to you. Red Grass Games or even better New Wave® POSH®. I suggest grey instead of clear or white so see the hues correctly
@Rhaenday
@Rhaenday 4 жыл бұрын
Starts using oil paints and immediately starts channeling Bob Ross; "just putting them where they seem they'll be fun" - I love it ^^ Also, reverse drybrusing does seem like a fun way to paint
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
It's so much fun and so relaxing. :)
@michaelbeighley775
@michaelbeighley775 4 жыл бұрын
You can use a 4 X 6 index card placed inside of a disposable plastic sandwich as a small pallet. When the paint is done, you remove and re-use the index card in the next sandwich bag.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Neat, that's a clever call for sure.
@Critical677
@Critical677 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always. I woulld like to see how you paint wood like you can see on the club he is holding! :)
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Philip, if you look through the rest of the Hobby Cheating series, you'll find a whole bunch of deep dive videos just like this one. I seem to remember Vince covering wood several times, the "S75 Inktense Wood" joke will live forever in my memory. But in any case, I can recommend working your way through all of the videos, each one is a gem.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, if you look in the 60's for the Rich Sylvaneth Wood, you'll see my techique, it's very simple and fun. :)
@Critical677
@Critical677 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@njabruzzo
@njabruzzo 2 жыл бұрын
wonderful
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@SithEpoch
@SithEpoch 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Vince! I wanted to say thanks for all of the information that you pass along. Personally you have really been a wealth of knowledge to the point that I am finally working on the models I have been collecting and building over the years and have deiced to jump into the deep end and incorporate oils into this initial endeavor because - like you say and I have finally accepted and internalized - you cant ruin a model. I have been struggling with oils and because I think my touch is too heavy, how much pressure are you exerting on the oils, 2 hairs and some air or something else? Thank you so much again!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Always happy to help. :)
@markgnepper5636
@markgnepper5636 4 жыл бұрын
You make it look so easy . Now I get to collect more paint hehehe
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Never a bad time to get more paint.
@markgnepper5636
@markgnepper5636 4 жыл бұрын
To true I get every new set that drops. It's fun to test them out and see what they can or can't do
@skynetpuma
@skynetpuma 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another amazing video Vince! Can you tell me which brands do you recommend for brushes when working with oils? which ones are yours? Also, what about the mineral spirits? is the mona lisa better? Sometimes they tend to have a strong smell, i dont know about different brands, here in my country is kind of limited the selection, but any guide can help me a lot. Thanks again! There is a brand called Abteilung 502, that are special oil paints made for miniatures and kits, that even dry faster i believe, do you now about them? Would be great if you would do a review :) Thanks again
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Any kind of synthetic brushes will work, I also have a few sable brushes I use JUST for this purpose. As to White Spirits, the Mona Lisa or the Gamblin are what I would recommend. The Abteilung 502 are good for sure, they are meant specifically for miniatures and will serve you well.
@MrRafarius
@MrRafarius 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this amazing tutorial Vince. I'm gonna attempt to do an ogre skin on a bust. Maybe acrylics for the rest of the details.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Go for it! :)
@the_sigil4340
@the_sigil4340 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Please people, listen to Vince and do not forget to smooth your moob shadow. Thanks in advance.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
It's the most important part. ;)
@jefflamott850
@jefflamott850 4 жыл бұрын
I use an old food dehydrator to dry my oils overnight.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
That's a really great idea.
@thumbprintsinputty6168
@thumbprintsinputty6168 3 жыл бұрын
An old oil painter trick is to set your figure under an incandescent bulb, 100 watt. The heat will dry the paint and it will be matt. Don't do this with plastic figures, you and your figure will be sad.
@robv.johnson6360
@robv.johnson6360 4 жыл бұрын
Wow amazing. When you started slathering on that white paint to his nipples I got nervous for a moment you weren't going to be able to bring it back but then you did! I'd particularly love to see how you did that tree branch he's holding. I like how I do wood but I don't get it nearly as good as you, yours has such a great variety of color to it. I think I see inktense wood in the more yellowy bits but even if that's true getting it so rich is a lot harder said than done. Would also love to see how you did the skull on the end of his club. I've been doing similar stuff to a lot of people to get bone color but the skull on the end of his club looks so much more like old skulls that have been sitting out in the forest and are picked clean. Fantastic work as always~!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
I'll see if I can tackle another wood video, but it really is much the same techniques from an earlier video. :)
@robv.johnson6360
@robv.johnson6360 4 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella there was such variety in that piece that you just did but I'll give that video another watch and maybe post a comment when I do! Thanks again
@johnc.4871
@johnc.4871 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Vince. I have never used oils and a bit hesitant to try due to needing to learn how to mix, clean, and apply it all it's forms like acrylic. I am still learning a lot about acrylic and mixing colors. Do you reference color mix charts for a particular color?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
They are a totally different thing and do require a new learning curve, so I certainly get it. As to color mixing, I don't really use a mixing chart, but that just comes from experience, it's certainly a good tool when you start out.
@rarneyjr14
@rarneyjr14 2 жыл бұрын
Vince just found this video and I am excited to start using oils. Do you have a video that shows how you got the mini to the stage before you start using the oils? From doing the zenithal and base coats.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
It was just a zenithal with one coat of elf flesh lightly glazed through an airbrush, so not much prep really. The key with an acrylic undercoat is just a mid-tone version of whatever the oils will be on top, not necessary, but can make your life easier in the long run.
@rossomachin
@rossomachin 4 жыл бұрын
Useful as always
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! :)
@rossomachin
@rossomachin 4 жыл бұрын
Vince Venturella by the way, do you know something about “Oil Paint Rendering” technique created by Michael Rinaldi?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
@@rossomachin I just went and read the article, I like the way he lays it out, very familiar to many of the techniques I am using with my oil paints, especialy in later phases.
@rossomachin
@rossomachin 4 жыл бұрын
Vince Venturella Great!
@Abomb1987
@Abomb1987 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff I am really enjoying your series on oil painting! Is an color base coat always necessary for working with oils? I understand that some of the oil colors are transparent, is this why we can’t just apply them over a primed model?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
It's not necessary, it can just make things a little easier or slightly help set an undertone. I do it for large areas, but it's not essential, you just have to be careful with your thinning.
@womblissimo6666
@womblissimo6666 3 жыл бұрын
I mean - I always knew that large scale models (fleshy bits) generally are painted using oils - but *** mind blown *** Holy crap! ... I'm almost tempted - no I'm not actually going to do it - to throw all my hundreds and hundreds of acrylics in the trash and start over new ... lol
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's so much fun. :)
@MrHadrien59
@MrHadrien59 3 жыл бұрын
hi vince! thank you for all the great videos! long time listener, first time caller here. Quick question and the answer may be obvious but given the opacity of oil paints, what are the benefits of starting off on zenithal based mini (other than using the zenithal as a guide for lighting effects)?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
So even if you're using paints with full opacity, it can make the miniature more "readable" easier to see details and it's genuinely easier on the eyes. It can also have some effect, even with something like Oils, it can influence the color above.
@LaLaObeRoT
@LaLaObeRoT 4 жыл бұрын
I started painting using Bob Ross' videos. I find oil paints a lot less intimidating than acrylics. So much less stress. So much more forgiving.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
It's true, it's so relaxing.
@GrizzLeeTroll13
@GrizzLeeTroll13 3 жыл бұрын
The first models I ever painted was a unit of ultramarines but all I had was testors paints. They took so long to paint because of the same reason oils take forever, drying. I never knew about ceiling layers down with varnish. And I definitely didn't have a Zen relaxed experience. I'm really tempted to go drop 5 Franklins at my local art supply store on some oils now that I have seem what is possible. After watching what you did with skin tones, with this wonderful troll. I wonder do you ever use oils on smaller 28 mm models? Or smaller?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I love oil paints on smaller miniatures, I have some videos on it, this one is a good example - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y86RZpV6xM-ugIE.html
@michaeln5660
@michaeln5660 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, but it's odd; I've been painting canvases for decades and I use synthetic brushes for acrylics and sable for oils! On minis I only use sable, except for dry brushing.
@MrSJPowell
@MrSJPowell 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Windsor and Newton was made with oil painting in mind. That said, I expect that this advice is because you would have to have a dedicated sable brush for oils, as cleaning the white spirits out of it so it could work in water would be troublesome.
@surfacetension4471
@surfacetension4471 4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree here, I've been using sable brushes with my oils for years now, they still look like new. It will depend on exactly how you work with the oil paints I guess, but there is no fundamental incompatibility.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's funny, in this one I talk about the synthetics and the use for Oils, I have another video coming soon and I talk about the idea of dedicated sables for oil paints, I have a set that are just for oils. BUt I wanted to start here.
@michaeln5660
@michaeln5660 4 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Makes sense. As usual! Keep up the great work
@WeAreGamersYTube
@WeAreGamersYTube 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've been contemplating getting oils. Wondering what you would suggest. I have a few larger minis (greek gods, demons, etc...) and I want to go a bit higher than my normal tabletop ready standard. I've been debating between Scale75's Heavy bodied Acrylics and Oil paints. Price isn't an issue. I just don't want to get both if they end up occupying the same space. Consider my skill level to be average. All things considered, what would you suggest? Or is there significant room for both in my arsenal? Appreciate you taking the time to answer all the questions you get!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
I will say if you are wanting to try something truly new, then the oils are the way to go, especially if you already have a large number of acrylic paints, as there isn't going to be that large of a performance delta with HBA.
@WeAreGamersYTube
@WeAreGamersYTube 4 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella I'm doing it! Thanks Vince!
@callum5257
@callum5257 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vince - your efforts have moved the needle of mini painting knowledge forward instrumentally. A big Q - why ever paint in acrylics instead of oils?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, the answer is because it's the right tool for the job. The acrylics are good for small detail and fine control. For example, when I am painting eyes or a tattoo, this is where acrylic paint works well.
@callum5257
@callum5257 3 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella great, thank you mate
@ILikeYous
@ILikeYous 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought some oils and Windsor and Newton Sansodor (brush cleaner) and a few mig oilbrushers. Perfect timing. Thank you. To apply(free hand) a tattoo would you wait till it is dry or blend in some dark green or blue while the flesh tone is wet? Edit: moooooooob
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
I would wait until everything is dry, varnish and then go back. In the case of tattoos, I generally do them with acrylics (but you could do with oils as the second layer).
@ILikeYous
@ILikeYous 4 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella thanks Vince. I will try that out. I am loving oils. I am going to check your backlog for videos on enamels next. I accidentally bought AK Interactive Enamels and not sure how to use them.
@seanfleming1599
@seanfleming1599 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. One question; In a previous video you mentioned that the brush you blend the colours with needed to be dry with no white spirit but here you're using a tiny bit that is left after the "wipey wipey". Why the different method?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Just the necessity of the current dryness of the paint. If you have very fresh paint or youre working when there are still white spirits in the paint, you want it bone dry. If most of that has evaporated, you might need just a tiny, tiny amount ot get things moving.
@madluper
@madluper 4 жыл бұрын
Moar oil paints tutorials please! I've just started to using them. Looks like they start to be popular around again in wargaming world.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
More tutorials are coming. :)
@madluper
@madluper 4 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Maybe something about smaller minis batch pairing with oils? :P
@ProrokLebioda
@ProrokLebioda 3 жыл бұрын
@@madluper Yeah, they dry so slow it's painful to just paint 1 mini at a time :D
@peterbiggin7193
@peterbiggin7193 3 жыл бұрын
This was a revelation for me. Atm I'm just printing and building a big winged creature and I've been giving a lot of thought as to how I was going to paint him and thanks to this video I now know. One question Vince, what type of varnish goes on first? Acrylic or enamel? I don't remember hearing you say
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
ALways happy to help. Just standard old acrylic varnish. :)
@jimirowe7006
@jimirowe7006 Ай бұрын
Great viddy! Sorry if someone has asked this. Do you prefer Satin or Matt surfaces when varnishing between steps?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
1 drop of satin to 3 drops of ultra matte.
@MrRrleonc689
@MrRrleonc689 Жыл бұрын
I loved this video, i am interested in trying this out but i still have some questions. Do you always start with a base coat of acrylics first and sealed them before starting with the oils? Or is it possible to just jump in and use oils right away on top of primer? If it's recommended to have acrylics first, what's the reason behind it? Mostly to have a base coat or is it to make the oils faster to work with because they might have some transparency to them that let's the base coat underneath show through? What if i used contrast paints or speed paints as the base coat instead of a full traditional base coat? Would that help and speed the process so i can start with the oils part of the paint job?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
I have more videos on oils on the channel, so check those out, but no, you don’t have to start with acrylics, it just makes life easier for toning. You can certainly use contrast paints or anything similar. No issue at all there.
@SMooreArtDesign
@SMooreArtDesign 4 жыл бұрын
Oil paints, the original wet blending. Oils need more love, very underrated.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree! :)
@raymondusher7672
@raymondusher7672 3 жыл бұрын
im just about to venture into oils after near 30 years with acrylics, looks so wrong just splodging colours on and blending on the mini, you do great helpful videos tho so thank you
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Best of luck! :)
@Abominus69
@Abominus69 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince, I’m acceptable with acrylics but am about to paint unimportant models entirely with oils for the first time soon for learning and fun. I notice some people put some relevant acrylic colour basecoats first, whereas others put oil straight over a standard zenithal. Any indications as to which colours you would put a coloured acrylic base under first? Cheers!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
I like laying down a quick coat then varnishing it, I use the airbrush or contrast paints just to get a basic hue. It just needs to be the basic color.
@adcpowell
@adcpowell 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this tutorial Vince. I do have a question though. Not about oil paints. I just need a little advice on very small faces. I’m currently painting GCT studios miniatures for Bushido. I love the figs but the faces are so small and highly detailed and delicate. The first time, I found, because it’s such a small area, even with thinning the paints, it tended to “cake”. I’ve used flow aid recently which helps but wondered to your knowledge if the is a paint product the is very translucent or a technique that would help?. Many thanks Andy
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
My best advice would be something like trying some inks/contrast type paints mixed into your regular paints or alone. They tend to be hyper-thin and transparent and should also be capable of thinning your existing paints as well.
@adcpowell
@adcpowell 4 жыл бұрын
Vince Venturella Thank you Vince, I’ll give it a go.👍
@Don-ut9uo
@Don-ut9uo 4 жыл бұрын
Do you varnish with matt or gloss varnish, over the dry oils, when you want to then use acrylic paints over the varnish?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
I actually varnish with a 50/50 mix of Satin Varnish from Vallejo and AK Interactive Ultra Matte varnish. I find it gives the right mix of durability and is still completely matte.
@LegendEternal
@LegendEternal 4 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS smooth your moob shadows.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Always. ;)
@ronkarnack3906
@ronkarnack3906 3 жыл бұрын
Vince: Could use you use an acrylic wash like say Agrax Earthshade as part of the acrylic underpainting then seal, then apply oils? Or with this method do you not recommend using acrylic washes?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
You certainly could., You can do whatever you want with the acrylics first, once they are varnished, (and even without honestly), they don't interact with white spirits.
@docbun
@docbun 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video - thanks Vince! µI haven't used oils at all and am in the target audience that needed to see all of the small steps. ;) Just to clarify: you're callnig this a "substractive" process because you are removing color from where it is (and a bit from the mini overall), right? (It's a weird word for me - even if it is what it is called by the masses and the experts - because we see what you are doing is essentially moving that paint around. ;) Oh, one more question: you said typically 24h to dry is what we should expect. I take it that was in-between layers. I usually like to let the paint "cure" a little more than it "just" needs to before varnishing (whether for save point or final mini sealing). Would you extend that duration for that purpose, or still consider that the usual 24h-ish is OK?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a lot of moving paint around, but you see how I am wiping my brush and removing paint, smoothing it down and then wiping. It's always good to leave it a little longer, but you want to make sure you are varnishing in between for the additional safety.
@alfyb4512
@alfyb4512 4 жыл бұрын
You should really try water-miscible oils. Holbein duo aqua, when used with water only, will dry to a nice matte finish. They remain workable for about 24 hours, so you still get the advantages of slow-drying, and the painting process is just the same. Note I’m not saying you yourself should change anything, your clearly confortable painting with classic oils, but I feel presenting them would really help hobbyists getting into oils. It’s nice to know you can just use water and your same old brushes, without having to deal with toxic thinner.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's certainly something I want to try, I'll get around to it eventually.
@cutley2b
@cutley2b Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial as I am going to try oils instead of acrylics due to the reasons you show. Question…many oil tutorials say to wait and let that “layer” dry before adding the next paint. You show blending immediately…am confused.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
You put down all your paint you wnat to blend, do so, and then let it cure. You have to let that whole thing dry before you will get a second clean layer that doesn't mix into the previous.
@MutsuKazuma
@MutsuKazuma 3 жыл бұрын
I was kinda disappointed the first time I painted a cloak with oil, cause the result seemed very meh, a couple of days later when the extreme shinyness dulled down a bit, it looked great, still needs a satin or matte varnish but I'll definitely going to use that again for space marine captain cloaks and for sm banners, maybe even normal shading on powerarmor
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, happy to help. :)
@carnajom8831
@carnajom8831 Жыл бұрын
Hi Vince! I know this is an older video but I’m wanting to explore oil paints. When it comes to minis how strictly don you follow the various oil paint rules like “fat over lean”, “thick over thin” etc? And for example knowing it’s fully cured before varnishing?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
I would say you can use many of those rules, I am going to have more videos coming soon, but it's not as important, you can bend them some - except the cured before varnishing. That you must absolutely do.
@carnajom8831
@carnajom8831 Жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella thanks so much for the reply! Yeah I’m quite worried about these oil “painting” rules, but I guess the best thing is to try. I’d certainly love to see more videos on oils! Especially the actual painting with them parts (as opposed to weathering and washes).
@michaelwellner1333
@michaelwellner1333 4 жыл бұрын
Vince, am I guessing on preparation, can I use Gesso thinned to hand prime, and oil wash ink rubbed off for zenithal recess?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
I have to be honest and say I haven't tried it, but it sounds like it would work.
@michaelwellner1333
@michaelwellner1333 4 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella I am trying to be old school and figure out my grandfathers way, even though im over fifty now...no air gun.
@Matthew_Dubroq
@Matthew_Dubroq 3 жыл бұрын
Vince, any plans for maybe doing a Frazetta style skin/composition?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
I think that sounds like an awesome article.
@firstprinciplebias2668
@firstprinciplebias2668 3 жыл бұрын
yo at 20:39 he brought out some cool whip on the nip lmao
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
I did catch the nip there for sure. ;)
@iainstirling1475
@iainstirling1475 3 жыл бұрын
Ha. Clearly a fan of Bob Ross given your presentation😄
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Most definitely.
@xenotrauma
@xenotrauma 4 жыл бұрын
I love my oils, and I use them almost exclusively now, but while the blending is a non-factor, I have trouble with getting real sharp lines. The blending also tends to de-saturate things, so everything I paint in oil always seems to come off "creamier" and with less "pop" than with the acrylics. Any tips on sharpness and saturation?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
So for sharpness, honestly, I go back once everything is dried and varnished with acrylics (usually inks) - for example with edge highlighting. For pop, I will go back in the same way (after drying and varnish) and add the pop, for example, use a little feathered out pale flesh to pop a brigh highlight.
@surrealroad
@surrealroad 9 ай бұрын
Hi Vince, I know this is an older video, but I recently got into oil paints in a big way, and came back to this video for some tips (of which there were many!) I do have one question though, is there a way to do an oil wash over parts painted in oil? When I've tried to do it, either the oil paint underneath gets erased, or everything just sort of splodges together.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 9 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! It's always dangerous, you are putting the solvent directly on the paint. You can varnish it heavily (give it 2-3 good varnishes once the oil paint has completely cured) and that can make it work as long as you have alight touch, but it's always somewhat risky.
@surrealroad
@surrealroad 9 ай бұрын
Makes sense, thanks!
@meriadocbrandybock
@meriadocbrandybock Жыл бұрын
Awesome work. What Varnish do you use? I do always paint jobs I am satisfied with but the varnishing ruined so many models ... Please give me a hint. Thank you very much.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
I use a mix of 3-1 Ultra Matte Varnish from AK with Satin Varnish from Vallejo.
@emilymegan40
@emilymegan40 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that was awesome - moobs and all haha! Do you ever use oils for free hand work?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't really work great for detail of freehand (like thin lines and the like, because the rough nature of how it applies), that being said, if you are doing a freehand image, it can be great for items like smoothing out actual full images liek we did on the knights.
@emilymegan40
@emilymegan40 4 жыл бұрын
Vince Venturella awesome thanks Vince!
@Steger13
@Steger13 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, just what i was looking for. Exiting and look way easier then when i use acrylic. Im about to try to paint figurine with oil paint. I like to know can i still use acrylic for base paint then use oil on top of it? Then if i seal everthing can i add some touch of acrylic on top of all that?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
You got it exactly, just let the oil paint cure completely (about 48 hours) varnish and then oil paint right over the top.
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