Vintage Chainsaw B.S.- Homelite XL12 - I Can't Believe It!

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Mr Obsoletes Vintage Homesteading

Mr Obsoletes Vintage Homesteading

3 жыл бұрын

In this video, I show off my new vintage Homelite XL12 chainsaw and talk
about some of the history of the Homelite company. At the end of the video, I give recommended you tube channels to watch if you want to see more channels that feature Homelite chainsaws.

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@austingoleman9431
@austingoleman9431 3 жыл бұрын
Wish McCulloch and homelite would make the old saws again that would last and worth rebuilding
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the days of good, reliable, long lasting chainsaws are gone. That is why I only use vintage chainsaws.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 Ай бұрын
One can never get enough vintage chainsaw videos Sir.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Ай бұрын
Vintage chainsaw videos are a large part of our channel, as we use them more than any other piece of vintage equipment. Some new ones will be coming up soon. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 Ай бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 What you said about old bars lasting literally forever is a fact Sir.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Ай бұрын
The McCulloch-Windsor bars were the toughest and longest lasting bars I have ever used. My main old Mac 610 is only on it's 3rd bar in 44 years of constant use. My Oregon bars only last about 3 years by comparison.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 Ай бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Thank you for your honesty and knowledge on the bar stuff !!!!!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Ай бұрын
Nothing beats experience !
@ttttwwyu
@ttttwwyu 3 жыл бұрын
I have an XL-76 made by Terry for the Canadian market and she packs a lot of punch! Great video👍🏼
@kenlee6126
@kenlee6126 3 жыл бұрын
Nice saws there bud...love the old homies myself...thanks for sharing
@wildcaughtfirewood1511
@wildcaughtfirewood1511 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, glad I stumbled upon this channel. Love the Homelite!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@justinweaver8787
@justinweaver8787 3 жыл бұрын
Love ur homelites my friend great collection. I recently added the xl400 an the super xl925 to my arsenal. Thank you for your time and video. Stay safe and warm.
@Smittyschainsaws
@Smittyschainsaws 3 жыл бұрын
HOMELITE SUPER XL-925 82CC!! Great Saw!!
@justinweaver8787
@justinweaver8787 3 жыл бұрын
@@Smittyschainsaws absolutely love it not got to run it much yet but hoping to soon I love it. Thank you for the saw my friend.
@Buzz-vz2js
@Buzz-vz2js 3 жыл бұрын
Xl925 now that's a beast
@tc3603
@tc3603 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely vid. Thanks for sharing with us very good delivery😀
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@Indeewoods
@Indeewoods 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Love hearing about the history of these old saws. Thanks for the other you tuber links. There was one channel I didn’t know about will check it out.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@rockofagesusa7942
@rockofagesusa7942 3 жыл бұрын
Lay over on the exhaust side is a great pointer, thanks 🤙🪓🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
You bet
@frankserra6709
@frankserra6709 2 жыл бұрын
Here again to learn from one of my Chainsaw Sensei's. Wow, super nice collection and variety of saws that you have there. What shocked me was the Homelight saw and how old fashioned AMERICAN ingenuity changed the looks and operation for the better in just two short years of that Homelight and still cutting the weight about 7-8 pounds. Know that because of your videos along with Buckin Billy Ray, Leon that you mentioned and a few others teachers. I've grown a great appreciation for these vintage American made chainsaws. Especially of the Mcculloch line. In just 3 short weeks. I purchased a Mcculloch 140 which unfortunately arrived with some damage which I'll repair and just yesterday. I bought a like new Mcculloch Timber Bear...This can become a good obsession 😁. Will keep looking for more of your videos Sensei, stay healthy and thank you.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. Keep collecting !
@markluxton3402
@markluxton3402 2 жыл бұрын
The XL-12's were also made in Canada. I had Americans argue that I had "unicorns"; saws custom rebuilt; but no, they had stuff like chain breaks, from factory.
@vintagesawyer6246
@vintagesawyer6246 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting history lesson! 👍
@arnenelson4495
@arnenelson4495 3 жыл бұрын
You're the ONLY other person I've ever come across that puts the saw on it's exhaust side to rotate the engine. I also pull mufflers this way to keep carbon etc from entering cylinder.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
saves the saws by doing this
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 3 жыл бұрын
Hey great video buddy!! Those are great saws and they are a staple of the Canadian firewood cutters arsenal!!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment. I just subscribed to your channel.
@carba8606
@carba8606 8 ай бұрын
Well done mate.......love all Homelite products...
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 8 ай бұрын
Homelite has made some excellent saws in the past for sure !
@mtwseneca
@mtwseneca 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, nice camera work too. I got one from a friend's barn, put a carb kit and cleaned out the tank (a lot), It does not flow fuel to the carb readily so I squirt some gas fuel into the carb and start it couple times. Then runs great. I offered it to my son who heats with wood, and he said a neighbor had one offered to him, and he turned it down- too heavy. So I kept it. I never thought of the muffler crud being able to be drawn into the cylinder. Excellent tip. mike
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
If you have to prime the carb to start it, I would check or replace the fuel filter and also look for a pinhole in the fuel line. The other thing that causes this problem is that the metering lever in the carb is not set correctly. A lot of old saws have been ruined by just pulling them through to see if they have compression, and the carbon and or rust gets sucked in through the exhaust port.
@mtwseneca
@mtwseneca 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Thanks for the comment, after watching you and a few more vids on the saw, I thought to check the filter (it and the line were new last year, and I cleaned the tank out a bunch before doing some tree work). I just went downstairs and pulled the filter out- one of those porus stone from a weed wacker- and it was clogged. Put in a new one that I was able to blow thru easily. When the weather warms up, I have a tree to attack (smile) Mike
@nhellman84
@nhellman84 3 жыл бұрын
Great old saws. I have three of them and still use them. The later model with the reed valves had a little more power.
@markluxton3402
@markluxton3402 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I thought they all had reed valves, just different types??? The carbs all take the same rebuild kit, so I assumed they all needed reed valves.
@landenedwards2729
@landenedwards2729 Жыл бұрын
I was driving down the road yesterday and my neighbor had both a XL12 and echo 302, on the side of the road with a free sign. I took them home and found out they both run with zero issues, an the echo is actually ported!! I’m so beyond excited, an they are both in really clean condition!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Жыл бұрын
What a great find, and the price is right !
@BigAgitator
@BigAgitator 7 ай бұрын
Love it! I had an XL12. She was a real sweet!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 7 ай бұрын
The XL 12 and the Super XL 12 were the longest produced saw models ever made, 1964-1988, were the most modern saw when introduced in 1964, and were the most copied saw of all time. They were a game changer in the chainsaw industry, and were super tough and reliable also. After the first of the year, I plan on doing a video on them. I have had a lot of requests to do so, so keep watching.
@nguyenngocducha
@nguyenngocducha 3 жыл бұрын
oh, interesting and really helpful to know that I should clean the muffler before starting an old saw that haven't been used for a long time. Before I have never thought about this specific task. 2-stroke engine's muffler has two duties, pressure and exhaust
@markluxton3402
@markluxton3402 2 жыл бұрын
The exhaust back pressure is important for most combustion engines, which is why you don't(shouldn't) use just any muffler.
@crazyfeller5704
@crazyfeller5704 3 жыл бұрын
Smitty sent me! Will be interesting to see that Mac and HL comparison.
@tonymayhew191
@tonymayhew191 Жыл бұрын
I have a Lombard Comango that is the definitely the closest thing to an XL12 of all of them. I have one of those craftsman 3.7 chainsaws with the self sharpening pieces and I have the same saw with the name Scottsdale on it! I love the look of the Remington saws, I have in my collection a SL-5 Powerlite, SL-9, And a huge demo saw Pow-R-Cut in my collection.Thanks for sharing old timer!🤗
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Жыл бұрын
The Lombard was designed by an ex engineer from Homelite, and that is why it is close to a 100% copy. I have never seen nor heard of a Scottsdale saw, obviously just a private label saw, but would be interesting to know who sold them. Nice collection and thanks for watching.
@tonymayhew191
@tonymayhew191 Жыл бұрын
I stand corrected! The saw i said was a Scottsdale is actually a scottsman.
@timothybyrom5560
@timothybyrom5560 3 жыл бұрын
Those ropers are beasts.
@johnnorman7708
@johnnorman7708 3 жыл бұрын
If somebody made an XL12 or Super XL today I would buy me a new one. An exact clone of the late 70s Homelites before electronic ignition failure, I meant to say "module" would be about perfect.
@markluxton3402
@markluxton3402 2 жыл бұрын
I love this saw, but it would be nice if it turned faster, was a tad lighter, and a bit quieter. Would it then be an XL-12 though LOL
@aldredske6197
@aldredske6197 3 жыл бұрын
Hi my friend!!😀😀 I have a Xl12, a super XL and a 400 automatic. I don't use any of them to actually cut any of my wood. I just pull them out and play with them once in a while. It's funny that all the channels you suggested I'm already subbed to. My dad started cutting pulpwood for a living when I was 5 years old and the saw he first had was a XL12. He wore it out in a couple years and then he began running Stihl saws and him and I have been running them ever since. I'm 54 years old now and he is 75 and he still cuts and sells firewood to this day. I just love your collection of saws. It would be nice to see your whole collection at one time. 😀😀 Take care my friend!!😀😀👍👍 Logger Al
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
I could actually get by with just a couple of saws, but I have collected old stuff forever, and like the challenge of getting old equipment operational, and really like to use all the different stuff..By doing videos on my old stuff, I can share the fun and history of equipment from the past. I have never been in the logging industry, but a lot of people I have known were, and the Northwest has a super rich history of the logging industry. When I put up a display at old engine, tractor and logging shows, it is really great to hear the stories of the life and history of working in the logging industry. I have several interesting pieces of equipment of big logging equipment that I will do some videos of at some point. One of them is a Bucyrus Erie 22B shovel that has been converted to a log loader. Neat old stuff.Thanks for watching.
@martinfranke846
@martinfranke846 Жыл бұрын
I have heated a 120+ year old drafty farmhouse for almost 30 years with a Homelite Super XL. Over the years, the boys and I have bought, owned and used other saws...Echo, Dolmar, Husqvarna...and they are ok, but my good old go to standby is the SXL!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Жыл бұрын
Neat story.
@chrisssmallengines7163
@chrisssmallengines7163 3 жыл бұрын
Great video , I am looking for information on pioneer P51 . the older ones are built to last .
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the chainsaw collectors forum for info on the P51.
@antitactical
@antitactical 3 жыл бұрын
Poulan made a 361. Its a copy of the homelite. Those things run forever. Nice video.
@EcSsAwS
@EcSsAwS 3 жыл бұрын
A 361 is nowhere near a xl12. Not even close
@davidcharles3313
@davidcharles3313 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever watched Ironhorse? You guys should talk. Thanks for sharing.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
I contacted Ironhorse some time ago, as we share a lot of interests. When his channel started to really take off, he gave us a shout out, and it really helped our channel grow.
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 Жыл бұрын
You can fix that air filter cover with JB Weld, pretty easily. Put a piece of electrical tape over the crack on the outside and pack the crack from the inside. This will give you a smooth rounded edge on the outside, so you won’t have to sand and file the outside down. Clean the crack with break cleaner before you start. My MAC 610 was the same way. I fixed it and then painted it. Looks pretty good, now.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Жыл бұрын
A subscriber sent me a real nice cover, so the saw looks great. I have used JB weld to fix other covers etc, using the method you describe. Works great.
@rockofagesusa7942
@rockofagesusa7942 3 жыл бұрын
I like those old Lombards and homelite. I’m already subbed to all those guys and now I’m gonna be connected to you also 🤙🪓🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@chill3685
@chill3685 3 жыл бұрын
I love that xl
@sandysmith9869
@sandysmith9869 2 жыл бұрын
I would feel so much better running these old Homelite chainsaws if they had a hand guard, or a chain break. I worked for the U.S.F.S fighting wildfires with a Stihl 056. Those Homelite saws look like they're ready to take a finger off.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
Using saws as a professional, one should have all the safety equipment provided by the manufacturers. Most of my saws are too old to have any of that equipment on them, as that stuff hadn't been invented yet. All I can say is that for me, after using my old saws that don't have safety equipment on them, since 1980, that I have never had a saw related injury. My motto is work smart and you will be safe. So far, so good.
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 2 жыл бұрын
I am trying to work a trade for an XL-12. I know it has a broken bar stud, which I will have to replace. It probably also has all the other typical problems, too. I know it has pressed in bar studs, like the husky. That makes it a little more difficult to replace than screw-in bar studs. I will check it out and clean it up when and if I can work a trade for it. I still have not finished restoring an HS-45 hedge trimmer, yet, I have its new cylinder and piston but they left out the circlips for the piston. I have ordered them from Stihl but that may take a while.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
The XL,s came with either 5/16" or 3/8" bar studs, so if you get the trade, checkout the saw so you get the correct one. The XL,s are great old saws, and are a nice addition to any collection.
@frankinstein6456
@frankinstein6456 Жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@AnDrEw122100
@AnDrEw122100 2 жыл бұрын
My neighbour has 3 vintage saws for me , I just have to go get them . I think they’re all homelites I only know one is an XL-12 not sure what the other two are . I should really go there and get them soon. Loo
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
The price is right !
@normanbfifteen3468
@normanbfifteen3468 Жыл бұрын
Thanks... your xl12 is like mine but I don5 have the dog spikes. I started mine for first time since buying...it went but wouldn't stop throttling at high speed. I assume to choke you pull out the knob...is that right?
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your saw needs some TLC, but they are easy to work on and figure out problems. The choke is on when the knob is pulled out.
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 2 жыл бұрын
I like the mulch ring around what I suppose is a fruit tree in the background. My peach and apple trees have a similar mulch round around them. I put 5-10-10 under the mulch around my trees in the fall and 10-10-10 in the spring. I also sprinkle some borax around them in the late winter to help in flower set.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
mulching the trees and shrubs really improves the health of them, plus it holds some moisture as well. I use 3-4-4, as that is what is recommended in our area, as well as small amounts of epsom salt. I havent used borax, but will try it this winter. I did a couple of videos on how I do my mulching, 1. may 15-2019 and 2. june 12-2019.
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 I add a little borax in late winter to help with bloom set, regular old 20 Mule Team stuff. I will throw a little lime and 10-10-10 in late winter. I just got through doing some pruning on one of my apple trees. I pruned it to a modified leader. I will wait until late winter to prune my peach tree. I got a bushel off it this year. My peach is a Heartof Georgia variety. It is a free stone variety. A good peach.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
When we expanded our small orchard, the nursery told us that we shouldnt expect any fruit for at least a couple of years, yet we had fruit on all but our peach trees in only one year. The mulching, feeding and pruning all made them all productive. The ants got to my peach tree blossums and prevented a crop. I appreciate your tips about gardening etc. as one cant know it all!@@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 my peach produced fruit in the second year. I would have gotten a pie or two out of them but the road rats in my neighborhood ate every one of them. My apples have not produced anything, yet. I have a McIntosh and an honey crisp. Make sure you prune your peach to an open configuration. I have pruned mine pretty heavy after I picked the peaches. One thing I did do this year was coat the trunk of my trees with whitewash to keep them from getting summer scald. I coated them up to the first scaffolding limbs. It is just hydraulic lime and water. I also did it to my young dogwood that was also getting scalded by our summer sun. I just go through planting some peach seeds in a pot with potting soil. I put them in my green house until spring. If they come up I will plant them. I am going to add some more peach trees next spring, regardless. Peaches should produce by the third year and they will self pollinate. It might be your weather. Cold could have killed your fruit if you had a late frost. You might consider covering your fruit trees if you are going to have a late frost.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of good info there. Two years ago, my apple trees hardly produced, as high wings blew off the blossums on one side, and had a small harvest on the other sides. This year we had a great apple crop My pears and peaches didnt produce because the ants got into the blossums . We got some anti ant wrap to put on the lower part of the trees, but it was too late. Always learning.@@johnclarke6647
@Smittyschainsaws
@Smittyschainsaws 3 жыл бұрын
I have the replacement air cover you need. Let me know if you need anything else. Thank's for the shoutout and today you will get to see your new saw working in action!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
I would appreciate recieving the air filter cover. Looking forward to seeing the Super XL in action. The second package was sent today. I like to include shout outs to those channels that have similar interests, helps our channels grow. When I first started the channel, I had a very small following, then IRONHORSE gave me a shout out, and it really helped my channel grow.
@mrtennessee6862
@mrtennessee6862 Жыл бұрын
I just picked up that homelite, did homelite have a 932 because I just picked up one of those. He said it was a 93? Thanks
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Жыл бұрын
The saw should be a model 923 with 82cc's displacement.
@beestoe993
@beestoe993 Жыл бұрын
There was definitely a quantum leap in chainsaw technology, but the more modern designs began to appear before 1964. I'm not sure who done it first, but take a look at the McCulluch Mac 1-40. It looked a lot like your XL-12 in 1958. And the Mac 1-46 came out in 1962.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Жыл бұрын
McCulloch was the leader in technology for many years, but they missed the mark on the home owner saw market for a while. The Mac 1-40 was 80cc and weighed 19 pounds, the XL 12's weighed 12 pounds and 12 ounces, and was 54cc. The XL was more compact, and the 1-40 series were a big saw. McCulloch countered the design in the late 60's with the 1-10, and built a large range of saws based on that design till they went out of business in 1999. Owning and using both brands, the Mac's are more powerful size for size, and almost all of Mac's have the over-riding oil pump, which makes the bars and chains last a whole lot longer. The XL's are good, tough old saws, and are durable like the Mac's, so there is room in my collection for both. Variety makes collecting interesting.
@kimberdixon984
@kimberdixon984 9 ай бұрын
I inherited some new "old stock" Homelite saw chains. There is nothing on the box that indicates to me what length the chains are and the new stock numbers on chains are different. I didn't keep the saws...those went to auction. Now I'm trying to move along the chains. How can I know what length they are? The end of the box says 38-L50-59HSV and J1-92059-EB Upper right corner says H3 Upper left corner 3/8 in 9.3 MM and lower left corner says .050 in 1.3 MM There is a label on the side that says Fits Models: and includes many different models including the XL-12. I have someone interested in buying the chains but he's asking me if they for a 20 inch saw. Is the length hidden in that code on the end of the box? Thanks for any help. After watching the video, I wish I'd kept the saws!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 9 ай бұрын
The length of the chains is always measured in the number of drive links. Since different brands of bars will need different lengths of chain, even though they might be the same length of bar. Most common Homelite bars for like the XL 12, use a 72 tooth drive chain for a 20" bar.
@dyer2cycle
@dyer2cycle 2 жыл бұрын
..McCulloch 10-series is a closer comparison than the 600-series to the Homelite...production lasted almost as long, also...Lombard made a series of saws that were quite similar...the Pioneer 1100 & 1200 series are very close...but to me, the closest clone they made was the Poulan 361...although they don't seem to be nearly as common as the Homelites, or even the McCulloch 10's or Pioneers....
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
You are right about the Mac 10 series being more like the XL 12,s and they were made for a very long time. It never ceases to amaze me how many manufacturers copied the XL,s The late Lombards were actually designed by a Homelite engineer, and are nearly a 100% copy. I have a Poulan 361, but have never worked on it, but might this winter, so it should be interesting to see how close the design is.
@richb8903
@richb8903 Жыл бұрын
I have both the poulan 361 and a couple XL12's and I've sat them side by side and it's crazy how close they are.. ever the muffler style
@Bret4207
@Bret4207 3 жыл бұрын
Mr OVH, per your comment on my comment I deleted, (I figured the model/years made wasn't worth arguing over). The 610 series (Power Mac and Super Pro Mac) was a 3.7 ci saw made from '78-'85 and '85-'94 respectively. So about 16 years vs the Homies 30 something. The much older 6-10/6-10A ran from '68-'72 and was a 3.7ci saw, the Super 6-10A was a 4.3 ci saw that ran from '68-'70 before becoming the 7-10A. Before that it went back to the 3.7ci 2-10 from '65, which as you note was one of the first Macs with a horizontal cylinder arrangement like the XL. These "dash series" saws were pretty much all metal, very little in the way of AV dampening, no chain brakes, etc. A Mac that would be closer to the XL would be the 10-10 which is a 3.3 like the XL and dates from the same era. As for the difference between the Power Mac 610 and Pro Mac 610, near as I can tell it's carb differences. There may be some shielding or chasis changes I can't discern on line. I can't find any specific reference to a Power Mac 610 that doesn't include the "Super" label. My point was the 610 series was a much later saw than the XL Homie. The Super XL was a 3.5ci saw, a little closer to the 610. I think you make a valid point on the game changer that the XL was at the time. There may have been other horizontal cylinder set ups before the XL, but the XL certainly was state of the art for the US market at that time. And it was the first consumer marketed saw too, or at least the first to really appeal to the consumer end of things. I think you be hard pressed to find many saws that made such an impact until the Stihl/Husky/Jonsereds of the 70's hit the market. The AV systems, safety systems and high RPM designs kinda stole the show from the the solid US names like Homelite, McCulloch, Pioneer and Poulan (which most today don't know was a pro grade saw at one time and not found in a Walmart!). No offense was intended. When a company produces a 6-10 and a 610 things get confusing. Pioneer also had a 610 and both Husky and Homelite had 2100's. You'd think they'd try not to confuse old guys like us, but such is not the case. Today you can buy a Husky 372 and a Holtzforma "Husky" 372! I'm with you, I'll stick to the old stuff!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
I cant find any info on a power mac 610. I have factory brochures from 1976 through 1982 and the 76 model was called a farm mac, 77 and later all say pro mac 610. I can find a power mac 510, which is a smaller saw. I gave you the wrong info on the Mac in the video of the homelite xl12 video, as I thought your comment was for a different video. The saw in the xl 12 video is a 1999 Timber Bear 54cc, one of the very last Macs, since it was assembled in Mexico. My comment about 1976 to 99 is correct, as these saws all were the same chassis, with only the slight change in displacement for the last of them.
@Bret4207
@Bret4207 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Heres a link to Mike Acres Chainsaw Collectors Corner site for the Power Mac 610. www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/62391767564ad36188256c2f001cbcd4?OpenDocument The next model up the list the Super Pro Mac 610. He doesn't list the Farm mac, but that certainly doesn't mean it didn't exist. Mac made a LOT of different models over the decades
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
I use the site and am amazed that someone took so much time and effort to put out all that information. Unfortunately there are some errors. I believe the listing for a power mac 610 is one of them. I have a factory booklet that shows all the carburetor applications for most Mac models and no mention of a power mac 610. It really isnt that important. Watch my next video, as it will be about the the 610 series and I show the 1976 brochure that shows the Farm Mac, and a dealer brochure that shows the Pro Mac 610 that his site says is a power mac. I like to be as accurate as I can on equipment history. Thanks for watching and subscribing.
@jacobmeis1249
@jacobmeis1249 2 жыл бұрын
Hi from colorado.
@austingoleman9431
@austingoleman9431 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a super xl automatic but last guy got his gas cans mixed up and ran regular gas in it and burned the piston up can’t decide rather to fix it back stock or have it gone through and port it and bore it out
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
After useing my Super XL automatic, I find it is very useful in stock form. These saws cant be bored out, as they have a chrome plated bore. Porting them will give more power, but fuel consumption increases quite a bit, and in stock form are already thirsty little rascals. Your decision should be based on how much you are going to use it. If you are doing a lot of cutting, I would recommend hopping it up, otherwise I would leave it stock.
@austingoleman9431
@austingoleman9431 3 жыл бұрын
That’s good to know didn’t know they were chrome plated guess I’ll go back stock make it a good work saw maybe get another 30 years out of the old girl save it from the scrap pile
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
Great choice@@austingoleman9431
@markluxton3402
@markluxton3402 2 жыл бұрын
@@austingoleman9431 Don't know about where all of you live, but supply chains are running dry; No NOT because of "covid-19", because of governments unscientific unjustified illegal and fraudulent declarations of an emergency pandemic. Never the less, I knew this was planned, and I bought carb rebuild kits, spark plugs, gasket paper, gas line, filters, oils, gas preservatives, etc., for most of my small engine equipment. FYI fellows/ladies? I have been preparing for the "great reset", NWO plans for more than 20 years. The Great Depression was deliberate, and this coming global collapse is as well. Get the stuff now, that you may need in a couple years, and hope "they" don't make internal combustion engines illegal to operate, before you need the supplies. "They" plan to stop the production of combustion engines in favor of much more toxic to the environment, electric cars and battery operated equipment; all charged with nuclear power. The fraud of so called climate change(AGW) is just an excuse. "They" have more control of you if you can not manage without being plugged into nuclear power. Learning to repair small engines is just one of the trades/skills I have been learning, to prepare for, today actually...or tomorrow...very soon.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын
What is the proper angle of chain for cutting frozen hardwood fella ??? Thanks
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, as I have never cut frozen hardwood. I have cut some fir, softwood, that was frozen, and I was using my standard 35 degree tooth angle. It cut fine, but was slower than normal drier wood.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Thanks for the information on your experience with my issue.
@bongo646
@bongo646 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Obsolete do you have a 1959 Husky chainsaw? If not what Husky’s do you have? Love your shows!!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
Amazingly as it may seem, I do not own a single Husky. Thanks for watching.
@bongo646
@bongo646 3 жыл бұрын
A true patriot 😉👍
@brownwrench
@brownwrench Жыл бұрын
I have a fairly mint xl12 super, and it compression tested at 145
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 Жыл бұрын
nice to have a minter !
@brownwrench
@brownwrench Жыл бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 it was rescued off a scrap pile! Buddy who gave it to me has several already the same way!!
@brownwrench
@brownwrench Жыл бұрын
He just acquired a mint XL2 just recently the same way. The air filter had disintegated though
@dennisharrison4744
@dennisharrison4744 7 ай бұрын
Iv got 7 homlites xls super xl and i got 4 sears one orange one i got runs awsome
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 7 ай бұрын
Looks like a good start !
@doctorromex7804
@doctorromex7804 8 ай бұрын
I keep my XL 12 and Super XL on top of my china cabinet but always keep em loaded with fuel and ready. When I'm done using em I blow em out with compressed air and put em back up.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 8 ай бұрын
I can see by your message that you are a true motorhead ! It is always nice to have some engines or motors in the house. I used to keep my vintage motorcycle and a hit& miss engine in the living room, but my current house is too small, so I only have 4 antique outboard motors in the house instead. Great minds think alike !
@EcSsAwS
@EcSsAwS 3 жыл бұрын
Known fact about the infamous xl12. They made them from 1966 to 1988. Not 1964. Longest running production saw for ANY company
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
I have an original ad for a 1965 Homelite XL that states that the engine has more power than the previous year. Other pieces of info I have state that the Xl,s were new on the market in 1964. So since I have factory literature that proves I am correct, you might want to update your data. You are right about the longest running model of any chains though.
@sirtango1
@sirtango1 2 ай бұрын
Anyone have a substitute part number for the coil? They quit making the coil for them. I know you can bake the coil and possibly bring it back to life. But I would appreciate a part number for a substitute if anyone has one. My grandpa purchased the saw around 1973. I remember it like it was yesterday. Until then we cut wood with a crosscut saw. Happy days!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 ай бұрын
The XL 12's used a couple of different ignition coils, so you need to find which one you need. Contact Leon's Chainsaw Parts & Repairs. He has a KZfaq channel, and he should be able to help. Nice memories with Grandpa.
@sirtango1
@sirtango1 2 ай бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 thank you so very much! I’ll check his channel. I enjoy your videos!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@vinimarshall7301
@vinimarshall7301 3 жыл бұрын
I like the new pull cords ‘ wrapping rope round start reel was awfull the knot on the end of thr rope allways wacked me on the head
@winfieldtaylor4967
@winfieldtaylor4967 2 ай бұрын
Boy,I need to find a coil for my old xl12..can anybody help me..
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 ай бұрын
Contact Leon's Chainsaw Parts and repairs. He has a KZfaq channel, so it will be easy to contact him.
@primarchxi6639
@primarchxi6639 5 ай бұрын
I believe that Japanese also coppied the generic design of Homelite XL-12.
@stevenlaxton3618
@stevenlaxton3618 2 жыл бұрын
My pioneer 1110 looks reallly close too
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched your video's on the Poulans, and find it interesting that you have worked around their bad engineering, just like I have done on the Wild Thing. Great minds think alike. Actually, it shows that you are very good at figuring things out, and make a piece of crapola into a useful piece of equipment. Too many saw owners dont check out their fuel caps when they have lean running and, or hot start problems. Knowing the basics and following through on diagnostic checks, usually solves all the problems. Keep up the good work !
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
OOP'S I replied to the wrong posting. Many saw companies copied the Homelite XL 12's.
@nayster0814
@nayster0814 3 жыл бұрын
12.5 pounds of fun
@wopalongcassidy
@wopalongcassidy 3 жыл бұрын
Any idea where the bar oil tank is and where to fill it ?
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
The oil tank is built into the side cover, and the filler plug is just below the muffler.
@wopalongcassidy
@wopalongcassidy 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 : Thanks for the answer. I thought that was for the crank case oil.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 3 жыл бұрын
The saw is a two cycle, where you mix two cycle oil in the fuel at a 32 to 1 ratio@@wopalongcassidy
@wopalongcassidy
@wopalongcassidy 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 : I guess I was confusing it with a 4 cycle. Thank you again.
@markluxton3402
@markluxton3402 2 жыл бұрын
@@wopalongcassidy Allow me to confuse you further ;-) What people call a 4 cycle, is a two cycle, and what people call a two cycle, is a one cycle engine. Not sure how nearly all of mankind has gotten this mixed up LOL Better to call a chainsaw a 2 STROKE(because that is what it does; 2 strokes, one up one down=one cycle), and call a lawnmower(most) a 4 STROKE, down up down up=2 cycles). You could get away with putting engine oil in the chain oil tank, just don't put straight gas in there, or in the fuel tank lol ;-)
@RinkyRoo2021
@RinkyRoo2021 15 күн бұрын
I started buying old saws including a xl 12 ,while modern husky is ok I dont like the carbs on the consumer models
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 15 күн бұрын
The old saws are better made and easier to repair and maintain in most cases for sure. The new homeowner/light use farm saws are very cheaply made, and the carbs are crappy. The EPA has messed up a lot of good equipment.
@robertd6925
@robertd6925 2 жыл бұрын
Wow manual oiling. That must be a real pain the ass.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it is pretty easy to run the manual oiler, but you have to remember to do it. I have a tendency to run the manual oiler more than I need, but the chain and bar last forever.
@markluxton3402
@markluxton3402 2 жыл бұрын
You do need to remember to use it, but I can see why they kept the manual pump even on the automatic oilers. In some situations with newer saws, there are times when a chainsaw puts out too much oil, and times when not enough. Cutting through big firewood the extra pump is very helpful.
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