Vital vs Serum: An In-Depth Wavetable Synth Comparison

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EDMProd

EDMProd

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@LoFiLex
@LoFiLex 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aden. This is a clear comparison
@iamishsantos
@iamishsantos 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I’m already proficient with Ableton’s Analog, Operator and Wavetable synths and I love them to bits but I just want something to experiment with and I was actually eyeing Serum but I’ve heard about this Vital synth and I’m happy I came across this video. Definitely going for Vital than Serum. It’s crazy that it’s free!
@EduRGB
@EduRGB 3 жыл бұрын
First Video of your channel I'm watching but I'm already subscribing! nice explanation!
@EduRGB
@EduRGB 3 жыл бұрын
do you think the 25 usd version worth it?
@EdSoloUK
@EdSoloUK 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, i like the way you have a "phase" slider on the LFO's and you can modulate a macro, both of which i wished Serum had before i found Vital
@AngelicDemonGirl
@AngelicDemonGirl 3 жыл бұрын
Hey dude love the video! Do you think you would consider doing a 100gecs-handcrushedmallet or 808db kinda tut, and recommended some plug ins and some tips to achieve those sounds in said songs :D I also love your Ableton Advanced Tips videos more of those would be awesome also :D As well as maybe a Top10 paid plug ins for Ableton and or a top10 built in plug ins for Ableton videos :D
@dualidentity
@dualidentity 3 жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention the text to speech as an oscilator function, that is pretty awsome!
@EDMProd
@EDMProd 3 жыл бұрын
True! The free version is limited in this capacity but definitely a feature worth checking out.
@aaronbazil
@aaronbazil 2 жыл бұрын
Going to get Vital asap now 🏃🏾‍♂️💨
@xgmode
@xgmode 2 жыл бұрын
If you think Vital wavemorphing is awesome, Fathom Vector VST has a metamorphic OSC which has more functions to mangle waveforms.
@Kevinschart
@Kevinschart 2 жыл бұрын
i skimmed a bit but and basically he prefers the work flow of the synth and how it looks. i didn't hear him say that one sounds better than the other. at this all these wavetable/FM/subtractive synths do exactly the same things. which delivers the sounds you want?
@adk_studios
@adk_studios 3 жыл бұрын
23:36 If you click on that visualizer it will turn into spectrum analyzer. Don't have to go to the advanced tab to see that
@bluefire9113
@bluefire9113 3 жыл бұрын
Hey!
@adk_studios
@adk_studios 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluefire9113 Yo wassup! ✌🏻
@bluefire9113
@bluefire9113 3 жыл бұрын
@@adk_studios try Caelum audio flux mini, new sidechain plugin
@Rizamusic
@Rizamusic 3 жыл бұрын
I like Vital's UI way more than Serum
@shurah_
@shurah_ 3 жыл бұрын
tbh I feel much more productive in serum tho
@JustinNathanielAdams
@JustinNathanielAdams 3 жыл бұрын
It's incredible that Vital is free!
@Martin-vj7zx
@Martin-vj7zx Жыл бұрын
and also, lets just face it... the fact that you can see the phase exactly in serum to adjust it exactly where you want, is just better.
@Martin-vj7zx
@Martin-vj7zx Жыл бұрын
honestly everytime i use vital wavetables i cant quiet get the sound i want... i dont know they always sound so THIN!!
@apoclypse
@apoclypse 2 жыл бұрын
I own Serum and frankly I prefer Vital. It just sounds better to me and the interface also reminds me of OG Massive so that's a plus.
@IKIRosa
@IKIRosa 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Serum was too pricy for me to afford, basically a minimum wage where I live, but now I can finally dive into something very similar for free! This Vital is a no brainer, still don't understand how those guys are making a buck but hey, an incredible wavetable synth for free! Surely will support them when I have the chance!
@levezinet
@levezinet 3 жыл бұрын
As to monetization, they have paid and subscription packages as well.
@bentrolley4316
@bentrolley4316 3 жыл бұрын
If you subscribe for $5 a month, that $5 each month gets added to your store account as credit. I'm using it to save up for the pro package, while still getting other subscriber perks in the meantime! Ftr the paid packages are mostly presets and wavetables, etc. If you're a sound designer and/or not too fussed about having loads of presets, the free version is all you need
@randomnaamofzo1246
@randomnaamofzo1246 3 жыл бұрын
3:16 Lance Thackeray is turning in his bed...
@joestar180
@joestar180 3 жыл бұрын
What is the cpu usage ? Of virtual and serum
@kedskies
@kedskies 3 жыл бұрын
It eats much more less CPU then serum. Though in some pc it is higher coz of some bugs.. Matt the developer is working on the issue
@dipx33
@dipx33 3 жыл бұрын
@@kedskies thanks for information
@juan-xn5kp
@juan-xn5kp 3 жыл бұрын
Vital crashes a lot doh bcz it is still new
@AlexReidStudios
@AlexReidStudios 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is... Im really broke rn and I want to make good (comercial) quality music. Can I manage to do that with Vital? I know that I also need mixing and mastering plugins
@yasunakaikumi
@yasunakaikumi 3 жыл бұрын
Any synths (free or not) now a days are up to high quality standard, even Synth1 you can make trance music to growling sounds, it will all depends to your skills how good you are in sound design, if you only rely on presets then you have 10years ahead of learning something in music...
@AlexReidStudios
@AlexReidStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@yasunakaikumi thanks, its a good thing that I know about sound design then
@juan-xn5kp
@juan-xn5kp 3 жыл бұрын
Almost everything
@samg3648
@samg3648 3 жыл бұрын
I've barely learned serum though lol
@robjanssen7420
@robjanssen7420 3 жыл бұрын
The good part is that lots of the things you know in Serum can be carried over without much translation to Vital! The biggest difference by far is that Vital has true dual filters (and in an initialized patch, oscillator 2 is routed to filter 2). This is one of the things I missed the most when I moved from Massive to Serum because it can give you all kinds of cool stereo options. The most important thing however is not to learn a particular synth - it's to learn synthesis in general :)
@paul-emilejocelynjean809
@paul-emilejocelynjean809 3 жыл бұрын
His first statement was "I don't really know what is a wave table" beside when the tipe of synthesis is define as "insane sound" you know that it will be a "feeling" review not a texnical review...he is also adresing skin a look before even reviewing the oscillator...
@juan-xn5kp
@juan-xn5kp 3 жыл бұрын
@@paul-emilejocelynjean809 he said if you don't know what a wavetable synth is...
@noface718
@noface718 3 жыл бұрын
Phaseplant Is probably the vst that is better then serum
@MrDanielh3410
@MrDanielh3410 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the name Sam Matla that Matla could be an acronym for something....all guesses welcome lol
@EDMProd
@EDMProd 3 жыл бұрын
yeah it's multiple artificial technological learning algorithms
@aboliguu1168
@aboliguu1168 2 жыл бұрын
I think vital is more modern and has more features but serum just sounds better, I don’t know why but vital sometimes sounds really thin. Also serum has a lot more wavetables and filters.
@squidboimusic
@squidboimusic Жыл бұрын
You can very easily use Serum's wavetables in Vital. Although I do agree that they sound different. I can't tell if that's a bad thing or a good thing! 😶
@avocadomasher1390
@avocadomasher1390 2 жыл бұрын
6:52 why are you running all OSCs while trying to show off different modes on one OSC? It doesn't help to bring the point across.
@EDMProd
@EDMProd 2 жыл бұрын
Fair point, probably could have turned the other 2 off
@perrypelican9476
@perrypelican9476 3 жыл бұрын
Hey mr Duda. I still like your serum, don't worry.
@WTrager
@WTrager 3 жыл бұрын
You can get thousands of third party presets for Serum, but I don't believe there are any third party presets for Vital.
@SpektralJo
@SpektralJo 3 жыл бұрын
Vital was just released, third party presets come with time
@WTrager
@WTrager 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpektralJo - I know that. The point I was trying to make, is that the difference in price accounts for that fact.
@Engineeer
@Engineeer 3 жыл бұрын
Vital just got released. Allow the third party sound designers some time. Many do not know about this synth, yet. Then they will actually need some time to make these patches. It's way to early to make any judgement on the availability of patches. Also, most patches are used over and over again and people may get sick hearing them. I see i n these patches more a starting points for my own sound design. In this case, it does not really matter, if there are 400 patches or 10,000 patches.
@ileryon4019
@ileryon4019 3 жыл бұрын
@@WTrager What do you mean? Serum is worth the money cause there are more presets available atm?
@WTrager
@WTrager 3 жыл бұрын
@@ileryon4019 - I never said that Serum was worth the money. Please show me when I typed out that statement. In fact, I NEVER even implied it. I truly hate it when someone twists someone's words in an effort to demean and hurt that person on a social media platform- I said : "I know that. The point I was trying to make, is that the difference in price accounts for that fact." There is no question that Vital is a great value. At the Pro-level for $80.00, it offers quite a bit more of a value compared to Serum at more than double the price. I was referring to 3rd party presets. The fact is; a well known producer that makes their living at producing for the elite performing artists out there is going to use several subscription services as well as Serum with thousands of sound presets and wavetables available to them, usually via a subscription service. Price for them is no object. Now, for me - Vital is perfect. The Pro-package would definitely work for me, and I can wait until 3rd party developers come on board with Vital wavetables and presets.
@itsrenov8
@itsrenov8 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think I like Vital a bit more, maybe not, maybe so, I just need to get better with it. Thanks Aden! *UPDATE* I change my mind. Vital is definitely inferior. After experimenting with both for months now I just think that with Serum you get what you pay for. Vital IS a rip off, and while it's a good one, it doesn't quite match Serum.
@unknownfilmmaker777
@unknownfilmmaker777 3 жыл бұрын
Can you say whether Vital sounds more thin? I can’t tell in some demos whether it sounds thin, or maybe it’s the reverb or maybe it’s just clean.
@itsrenov8
@itsrenov8 3 жыл бұрын
@@unknownfilmmaker777 It definitely does. Vital is weaker than serum is. I can say though, for a free synth, it's pretty great.
@tonytemple8195
@tonytemple8195 3 жыл бұрын
😄😄😂😂 If I just tweak the Saw wave a little.... Shouldn't need to tweak it a little if its better, right???
@arulk4800
@arulk4800 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Both can't support my computer
@EDMProd
@EDMProd 3 жыл бұрын
Haha yep the CPU is killer on both
@Engineeer
@Engineeer 3 жыл бұрын
Why? Do you still use Mountain Lion or a 32 bit OS or have a super weak processor? Both require a current 64 bit Windows or Mac OS. Vital is even available for Linux. Serum still runs under Windows 7 (which you should not use anymore for security reasons). Only thing which might be an issue in some setups is Vital's OpenGL requirement. If you can't run any of these plugins, consider an upgrade of your hardware and/or OS, because there is probably a lot of other stuff, which doesn't run properly. For music production, you don't want a slow PC anyways. I know, it sucks to spend money on a new PC. If it's only the OS and your PC has a 64 bit processor, you of course can switch to Linux. But the software industry is very slow in supporting Linux with their DAWs and VSTs. So, you may have to switch to other software or try to get it running using emulators like Wine. I personally did not dare to switch to Linux for music production, yet.
@arulk4800
@arulk4800 3 жыл бұрын
@@Engineeer I am just 14 years old and my computer was bought in 2008 and it's even rare, that the computer is still working and there are 0 OpenGL and I can't even upgrade it.
@Engineeer
@Engineeer 3 жыл бұрын
@@arulk4800 Wow, that's a really old computer. Do you know the detailed CPU, GPU, RM size and Operating System specs? Generally a computer from 2008 is suboptimal for music production with most modern tools. Complex synths like Serum and Vital need a lot of CPU power. There are lighter synths out there, which aren't as powerful, but still make good sounds. You may check out Synth 1. I use this old and light synth all the time. daichilab.sakura.ne.jp/softsynth/index.html (Just ignore the Japanese text and scroll down to the downloads.)
@arulk4800
@arulk4800 3 жыл бұрын
@@Engineeer But I use ToneZ , BTW thanks
@aces3261
@aces3261 3 жыл бұрын
U only need 2 oscillators
@ap7390
@ap7390 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah if youre a noob
@natura808
@natura808 3 жыл бұрын
I need just a half oscillator...
@Kevinschart
@Kevinschart 2 жыл бұрын
@@ap7390 you only need three if you just sit around making bleep bloops. music doesn't require all that.
@doug941
@doug941 3 жыл бұрын
I paid for the $80 version...to try and help the development. Idk? Every sound I get from Vital sounds really harsh! Not incredibly musical.
@gonzalodominguez229
@gonzalodominguez229 3 жыл бұрын
do not like none of them really. Those are not the stuff Hits are made of. You know.. its of course a personal choice.. but some Synths are love at first sound.. but this two just dont have either Character nor good sound pressure.
@Tr-zn9ob
@Tr-zn9ob 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting opinion. Though Serum really is an industry standard and espacially nowadays, many "Hits" are made with Serum espacially the EDM stuff. I absolutely admire Serum for its wide usability. It kinda fits everywhere if you know how to use it. From vintage to modern, it gives you nearly everything you can imagine. Can you recommend any synths you had "love at first sound"? Would like to explore your concern with sound pressure and character.
@stephenroldan5107
@stephenroldan5107 2 жыл бұрын
Try pigments. Wt has been around a long time. Sits nice in analog/digital sound. Like already stated. What style of music?
@fart4192
@fart4192 2 жыл бұрын
dj mag top 100 look at the top 10 artists they all use serum, what you said is incredibly braindead&delusional
@stephenroldan5107
@stephenroldan5107 2 жыл бұрын
I use test equipment .if you want a sound with character start there.
@TheRaveMusicArchive
@TheRaveMusicArchive 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
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