How Disney RUINED Stormtroopers

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Disney has been destroying the reputation of the common Stormtrooper for too long. Time to put a stop to it! (Watch the uncensored cut at / thevitoshow )
The iconic Stormtrooper has always been an important part of the Star Wars universe. Unfortunately, our favorite white-clad bad guys have been earning a rather negative reputation in recent years, with Disney apparently deadset on turning them into the laughing stock of the universe. This problem has been especially noticeable in The Mandalorian, where it seems almost every other episode shows Stormtroopers being humiliated.
This video takes a closer look at these lovable grunts, and their unfortunate mistreatment by Kathleen Kennedy and the Lucasfilm story group. We examine how it is that Stormtroopers came to earn this bad reputation, and what can be done to restore the lowly trooper to his former glory. Let's dig in!
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro
01:40 - The Dumb Trooper Myth
05:25 - Disney's Trilogy Blunder
09:25 - Mandalorian Madness
13:06 - No More Trooper Jokes
14:21 - No Invincible Mando
17:41 - Let Troopers Kill
20:38 - In Conclusion
21:42 - Vito's Corner

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@vito Жыл бұрын

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@KrolKaz Жыл бұрын

Only if you shave. I ain't kissing you with that beard on

@kipzmc2024 Жыл бұрын

@@KrolKaz bro

@kipzmc2024 Жыл бұрын

quit swearing

@pope2552 Жыл бұрын

best video of all time

@hulkflattt7854 Жыл бұрын

Well i was going to sub till you said the Gina Carano anti vax bit Stop with the division!!!

@denbighbrown8682 3 жыл бұрын

Rogue One did the best with Stormtroopers They actually killed people 😂

@randomcenturion7264 3 жыл бұрын

Hell Yeah Stormies Rock!

@denbighbrown8682 3 жыл бұрын

@Dragon On Coke I think it's the best film or movie that came from Disney so far. I'm an OG so I've been watching since the originals. I've seen all the movies in the original order that they came out.

@kendi5391 3 жыл бұрын

@Dragon On Coke This movie's really awesome. It could be Episode 7 and people would love it.

@ajmari9585 3 жыл бұрын

I will say the Force Awakens actually does this right. The movie opens with the stormtropper murdering an entire town. And later in the film one of the main characters is almost killed by a stormtrooper in a swordfight. And the characters actually had to SNEAK around Starkiller Base and didn't just murder 40 troops at a time. The new trilogy did alot wrong but I think episode 7 did that right.

@kendi5391 3 жыл бұрын

@@ajmari9585 Good points.

@Sam_Kings 3 жыл бұрын

I understood your point about Gina's tweet, however I'd like to remind you that family friendly Disney filmed Mulan near Chinese concentration camps and thanked the CCP for the privilege. They clearly don't care all that much for their image.

@vito 3 жыл бұрын

Very true. They are hypocrites.

@Praxeus514 3 жыл бұрын

And her costar compared the US border to Nazi concentration camps without a whiff of concern from KK & Co.

@giacomosavardi2131 3 жыл бұрын

and Pedro Pascal also used an image which was actually from Syria in that tweet. I thought Lucasfilm took issue with “Fake News”

@vito 3 жыл бұрын

@UCshSbeKz0xRtySYe_8IsY8A I didn't say WW2.

@iamyuheismi920 3 жыл бұрын

I'm actually surprised they kicked Gina out for Holocaust sensationalism rather than the antivax shit lol

@TheDeadmanstrolling Жыл бұрын

It's honestly pretty grim how Finn shows us that stormtroopers are humans too and how he mourned his fallen comrade in the opening sequence of Force Awakens... only for him to gun down dozens of them and then go WOO YEAH LET'S GOOOOOO basically

@tonyepic8 Жыл бұрын

how ironic

@easternag16 11 ай бұрын

"WOOOO YEAH BABY! THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!"

@lugiasimply6054 10 ай бұрын

and how in battlefront 2 they added human characteristics (the original, not EA)

@cerebrophage7709 5 ай бұрын

Say you don't understand the heat of the moment without saying it.

@LaloSalamancaGaming69 4 ай бұрын

@@cerebrophage7709 the heat of the moment makes you go genocidal?

@jckahearn 7 ай бұрын

The storm troopers in Andor were scarce, but when they showed up, you felt genuine worry for the protagonists.

@Daniel_Huffman 3 ай бұрын

Adding onto this, we never even saw stormtroopers until "The Eye," and even then, they were in the background of a wide shot that focused on the TIE Fighters; we didn't see them up close until "Announcement," and the first time they get killed is in "Daughter of Ferrix," the first season's penultimate episode.

@thefanwithoutaface8105 3 жыл бұрын

Also fun reminder, remember the Prequel Trilogy, the one everyone loves to say sucks. Well they made the Clones, the precursors to the Stormtroopers, a highly competent fighting force who were directly responsible for wiping the Jedi out. Talk about a downgrade.

@kbgman01 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that’s true. Also, remember the Clone Wars episode with the Nikto Jedi. He died to a large squad of Battle Droids. Not to mention all the Jedi that died in the Battle of Geonosis. In short, even Battle Droids are more competent than Stormtroopers in the Disney movies, aside from Rogue One.

@MistahFox 3 жыл бұрын

@@kbgman01 The battledroids got made fun of relentlessly, but it felt less mean spirited since they weren't people. Still, the battledroids killed almost every character you don't see in Revenge of the Sith, so even they raised the tension and posed a threat.

@lamardavisakald4438 3 жыл бұрын

Mistah Fox battle droids were made in a joke. They ruined separatist as an faction by making them generic ‘bad guys’ and absolutely ruined the beginning text for revenge of the sith. ‘There are heroes on both sides’

@colinscherer7212 3 жыл бұрын

@@lamardavisakald4438 The Separatists aren't just Droid Armies. They are a Confederation of systems, and many of the worlds in it have their own sentient armies, that are living creatures. Only the Trade Federation has a droid army

@user-Jay178 3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@PHGRP 3 жыл бұрын

“How Disney Ruined” could be a massive series since there is no shortage of Disney messing stuff up.

@0wolabi97 3 жыл бұрын

Or, just throwing it out there. Disney hardly ruined anything. Star Wars isn't that different than when Lucas called the shots. Some Star wars fans just want something to complain about. Even if the problems they are complaining about are hardly problems at all. Again food for thought.🤷

@emberfist8347 3 жыл бұрын

@@0wolabi97 No that is just BS.

@emberfist8347 3 жыл бұрын

@@RM-cn8pw No he is wrong

@0wolabi97 3 жыл бұрын

@@bilbobaggins9451 what did they ruin exactly?

@0wolabi97 3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 what makes it b.s. exactly?

@CallsignShowtime Жыл бұрын

19:50 the part that really kills me is that they did Troopers killing people right not that long ago. Rogue One's entire battle on Scarif is hinged on the troopers being pretty effective overall

@FriendlyCroock Жыл бұрын

I honestly think that Rogue One is the worst example of how to write bad guys. The worst moment being when Jyn grabs a storm trooper's gun and he just falls off a platform to his death. Just because she grabbed his gun too hard.

@simpleviewer1334 Ай бұрын

@@FriendlyCroock not really, its not AS bad as the mandalorian or the book of baba fett. The entire main cast dies because of regular stormtroopers or death troopers. They are competent, can actually aim, and on Jedha were actually scary I don't know what to say about that fall though

@FriendlyCroock Ай бұрын

@@simpleviewer1334 Scary? Well that's interesting cause they didn't scare me once. In fact I laughed at them a few times. Like when they surrounded that blind guy with guns. Even a little kid would know that if u do that you'll shoot ur own men. Are u telling me they don't have basic military training.

@FriendlyCroock Ай бұрын

@@simpleviewer1334 Secondly the only evil that the empire does in Rogue One is in the shape of retaliation. The rebels literally do more eviI than the empire does.

@FriendlyCroock Ай бұрын

@@simpleviewer1334 Another problem is that the rebels in Rogue One have the big empire strikes back and rotj fleet. The rebellion in "a new hope" was supposed to be very small and insignificant. They attacked the death star with x wings hence why Tarkin didn't take them seriously. It's after the empire destroyed Alderaan that more planets joined the rebellion which makes sense.

@cubeshapedwombat6821 Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it make more sense have the Imoerial Remnants have EXTREMELY proficient & lethal troopers? Think about it, the Empire's finest troopers have survived the horrors of war after the collapse of the Galactic Empire. Most of the lesser skilled stormtroopers either died or deserted long ago. This leads them to become increasingly desperate and cornered, as resources are thinning out. Because of this, new recruits aren't taken in on a whim, but are subjected to intense basic training using old school methods. Led by veteran stormtroopers & commandos, these trainees are given the opportunity to serve their respective warlords faithfully ( and much more competently). Stormtroopers are even leased out as mercenaries & bounty hunters to raise funds for equipment maintenance & training, while also gaining vital skills.

@carstontoedter1333 Жыл бұрын

In my head cannon Gideon and his remnant are the lower quality troops relegated to surviving in dustbin world's on the outer rim patrolled by literally 2 X wings. The real cream of the empires crop are able to maintain a threat level closer to the core world's, thus having more resources and a better chance of actually taking down the new republic.

@graham5716 Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@MALWylie 3 жыл бұрын

Lucas: “Only Imperial Stormtroopers could be so precise!” Disney: no

@isakisak9989 3 жыл бұрын

Rogue one is the last time they were somewhat competent, they acctually manage to kill rebels, and that one moment where that random death trooper decides to get close and personal to fight mando unarmed. Outside of that they just suck :/ (i don’t count the dark troopers because they are droids)

@buckeyeguy458 3 жыл бұрын

Don’t act like they were precise in A New Hope. They were never really a threat

@emberfist8347 3 жыл бұрын

@@buckeyeguy458 They were pretty precise. It was mentioned later in the movie that Vader had a homing planted on the Falcon so he could track the ship to the Rebel base. This would require at least three people to not get killed by the Stormtroopers during the escape. Leia had to live because she was only the person who knew where the base was and they needed two more people to escape to fly the ship. They were firing as close to them as they could to make it seem they were trying to shoot them without actually hitting them.

@codyknight4040 3 жыл бұрын

Lucas (in the same movie) : no

@viscountrainbows6452 3 жыл бұрын

Obi-Wan: The Empire's Elite Memes and Pop Culture Osmosis: Yeah butttt, actually no

@smellygreenpants 3 жыл бұрын

According to one interview, John Boyega said that his original interpretation and direction he was taking with Finn was more serious, like a child slave raised to kill you know? Disciplined, emotionally scarred, and distant. But he was instructed by Abrams to lighten it up and make it more comedic. One more failure to throw at that mans feet I suppose.

@markgeorge2200 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It makes no fricking sense since Finn grew up with these fellow brainwashed troopers, and when he kills random people he hesitates, but when he kills his OWN troopers he starts laughing. Like if they wanted him as comedy do it the right way

@ggt47 3 жыл бұрын

Why?

@scoutman66 3 жыл бұрын

@@markgeorge2200 Kind of makes him more morbid, the way he casually kills and battles his old teammates. Almost psychopathic

@TheStoryTeller17 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I would have Finn as attempting to fit in, sort of like faking emotions to try and hide his scars, have moments where his sort of positive facade cracks.

@nukclearmoisturegaming4675 3 жыл бұрын

I can say this ABRAMS SHOULD NOT BE MAKING MOVIES First Star Trek now Star wars

@tabletopmika4349 Жыл бұрын

Storm Troopers weren't just simple foot soldiers! They were an elite force with some really nice gadgets in their helmets that acutally improve their targeting. The imperial army were simple foot soldiers, though, but they are barely shown in the original movies. I think that the only times where you see them is as the drivers of the AT-ST walkers. While they have always been there in the Star Wars roleplaying game starting back in the lake 80s, they have their first real appearance on screen in the Han Solo movie.

@alexcarter2461 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I guess you could say their the "shock troopers" of the imperial military, but I'd imagine they'd be very good shots, you'd THINK so seeing them for the time. I know I did.

@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon Жыл бұрын

If stormtroopers are elite, then I don't want to know what is average...

@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon 11 ай бұрын

@@Hayabusa7792 Then all of Star Wars have failed in portray them as such...

@justawilliamsfan 9 ай бұрын

Andor has done a fantastic job of doing that

@CryosisOfficial 8 ай бұрын

@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon Someone's never experienced real Star Wars.

@KrisBhlai1 Жыл бұрын

Well this aged badly. In the newer Star Wars project Kenobi, tapping a stormtroopers helmet apparently stuns them for enough time to get blasted

@RevolverRez Жыл бұрын

I mean, that doesn't really make up for every single other Star Wars show where they have the accuracy of the Doom 3 shotgun.

@FriendlyCroock Жыл бұрын

@@RevolverRez It was sarcasm you smarty pants

@swagromancer Жыл бұрын

But now Andor is here to save the day. The stormtroopers of Andor are an efficient and terrifying fighting force, worthy to be called the Fist of the Empire. This is how I want to see them portrayed going forward.

@impulseelectrobrine1259 11 ай бұрын

And in andor they kill a butt load of rioters

@vankristlabs 10 ай бұрын

Andor is far, far, far too little, far too late. TIEs are still worthless despite characters telling us they're deadly, the infamous "just one TIE flying over ordinary people" scene is followed by TIEs missing every volley and crashing into each other, and stormtroopers shoot basic rioters. Yeah, it's over. They will never be as cool to me as they used to be, again.

@sliceanddice5707 3 жыл бұрын

When Poe, Finn, and their "buds' have killed thousands of more children than Anakin/Darth Vader.

@joshfatal 3 жыл бұрын

And here I thought I couldn't get any more depressed about the sequels.

@Shockguey 3 жыл бұрын

lolololol Bill Burr does the same thing in Season 2.

@XboxGamer220 3 жыл бұрын

They weren't children when they got gunned down, but adults. So really, they were just performing Very-Late Post-Birth Abortions.

@snipingflute4346 3 жыл бұрын

“The war? I cannot find it to be so bad! The death of one man: this is a catastrophe. Hundreds of thousands of deaths: that is a statistic!” -French Joke I.

@sliceanddice5707 3 жыл бұрын

@@snipingflute4346 I think its one million in the original quote by Stalin

@BrotherCarver 3 жыл бұрын

Clone Wars had a good balance of comic relief and danger when it came to the droids, we understood that while they are dumb individually they were extremely effective in large battles. This allowed them to have huge battles that the Republic barely wins or horrifically loses, while having small droid patrols for comic relief at times.

@ryanred1525 3 жыл бұрын

@Alex Gomez yeah but the thing is the droids had like felt funny so you can connect with them and honestly I am sad when I see a Droid died

@AndreNitroX 3 жыл бұрын

Very true. One episode you have Roger Roger jokes. And another they are silent and kill captan thorn. For the republic!!

@maestrofeli4259 2 жыл бұрын

yeah, in one episode you have "that was a horrible shot!" "it's my programming" and in another you have dozens of clones and jedi being slaughtered by the hordes of droids that was a good balance, specially since it wasn't a 50/50 thing, it was a 80/20 (derp moments being a minority)

@ryanred1525 2 жыл бұрын

@@maestrofeli4259 I still feel bad for the droids

@AndreNitroX 2 жыл бұрын

@@maestrofeli4259 yes exactly

@opinionhaver5910 Жыл бұрын

"Why don't you have baby yoda eat more unborn babies?" - Vito, 2022 14:13

@cerebrophage7709 5 ай бұрын

😅😅😅 they're eggs. If you eat fried chicken, you eat a mother bathed in the remains of her children. If you eat cheeseburger, you place bovine mothers milk product over the ground remains of another bovine. The quote you mention is pure virtue signaling

@hondmilodoggo Жыл бұрын

15:49 that's soft body armor. It's supposed to deform and while doing so spread the kenetic energy of the bullet over a larger area and thus preventing penetration. You can add additional plates, those would greatly increase the protection the armor offers but it's expensive, heavy and it does only cover a small area of the body. Beskar armor seems to not deform at all therefore internal damage as a result of kentetic energy would be minimal, depending on the amount of kenetic energy a blaster bolt carries it might knock him over though. The most stupid part about the mandalorian is that the mandalorian gets hit numerous times throughout the series and every single shot happens to hit him exactly at one of the beskar plates even though a large part of his body is not covered with those plates.

@lukeroberson2115 Жыл бұрын

Beskar apparently literally magnetises blaster fire towards it.

@2ameli3 2 жыл бұрын

This is why I like rogue one so much. It shows the stormtroopers actually winning and destroying the opposition.

@ouussahhh 2 жыл бұрын

Cus we do. Sometimes

@lyeloh9251 2 жыл бұрын

Still my 2nd favorite Star Wars movie

@diegostach9563 2 жыл бұрын

@@lyeloh9251 What's the 1st then?

@arandomasschannel 2 жыл бұрын

@@ouussahhh hello fellow stormtrooper I'm your huge fan

@nobchopper9728 2 жыл бұрын

Barley but ok.

@nickmandilas8269 2 жыл бұрын

This is why I liked Rogue One. By adding lots of heroes, and killing them off as they went for their objective, it made the stormtroopers more formidable. A concept used in 7 Samurai, dirty dozen

@travispotthoff6131 2 жыл бұрын

You even saw that in the Clone Wars - named clones such as Fives, Tup, 99, and Jesse. They were often recurring, likeable, and then still died.

@tbolt2378 2 жыл бұрын

What bothers me most with Mandalorian, the Stormtroopers act and fight like a bunch of untrained recruits. They can't hit anything with their blasters. Tactical competence is zero, no fire and manoeuvre. No fire teams, no adequate leaders. Only leadership the NCOs or Officers provide during the battle, are the hand signs to go forward. It seems the Stormtrooper's helmets are lacking communication, sensors and everything.

@happyheartstv1431 2 жыл бұрын

SAME rouge 1 is my favorite because everyone DIES

@user39728 2 жыл бұрын

Still though the Stormtroopers in Rogue One are nerfed a bit compared to the lore standards. Even the Death Troopers get taken out by one guy with a giant gun :/, should be the other way around

@advancedstupidity5459 2 жыл бұрын

@@travispotthoff6131 None of the clones we safe in TCW except Cody and you could assume they weren't going to kill Rex. That was the best part about them. You loved and cared for them and you truly didn't know when you would lose another one. I think more named clones died than survived when you really think about it. Boil, Kix, Fox, Wolffe, and Doom all survived. Echo survived, but he was presumed dead for 3 seasons. Aside from that only a few single episode clones survived like Gregor and Monk.

@RevolverRez Жыл бұрын

Yeah, this bothered me so much while binge watching The Mandolorian recently. Disney want us to see these guys as a huge threat, but they're constantly portrayed as helpless moving targets for the main characters to kill as cruelly as possible. It got to the point where I actually felt bad for them, because they have no chance of harming anyone but they're massacred just for showing up. I should be cheering when they're taken down, not sympathising with them.

@HEILIGERRomer 7 ай бұрын

I'm an imperial Stormtrooper fan, I've been one for every Halloween, Christmas, Thanksgiving, YOU NAME IT! And I'm sick and tired of them being killed off without a fair fight bro, LET THEM BE A REAL THREAT

@x-mighty7602 2 жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: Jango Fett has more screentime than Capitain Phasma. He only appeared in one movie. And no, I'm not counting his clones or Boba Fett. I'm only counting Jango.

@quasarstone4951 2 жыл бұрын

if you count the clones Im pretty sure he has the most screentime of anybody 😂

@dr.boring7022 2 жыл бұрын

@@quasarstone4951 Considering the Clone Wars show (not including the Prequels or the 2003 show) is over 56 hours long, yeah, they'd easily win.

@ZuwyFPS 2 жыл бұрын

@@dr.boring7022 its 66 hours to reflect order 66

@dr.boring7022 2 жыл бұрын

@@ZuwyFPS I think that is incorrect though. And doing the math, my number is incorrect, too. There are typically 23 minutes per episode, and 133 episodes total. That totals to around 51 hours.

@ZuwyFPS 2 жыл бұрын

@@dr.boring7022 oh

@TrueUnderDawgGaming 3 жыл бұрын

The Clone Wars (2D series) taught me to respect the Hell out of clone troopers. Apparently they become Extremely competent when fighting for the heroes

@flamebreaker7318 3 жыл бұрын

Nah they just got better training they were trained from birth and a lot of the first batch was even trained by mandalorians some mandalorians even snuck clones out and made them full mandos

@simpleclonetrooper2740 3 жыл бұрын

It is odd to see you here but yeah we clones are a force to be reckoned with.

@mertarican5456 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it is the only thing i cared about starwars. It is so weird. One child show is pretty serious. And dozens of movies is pretty childishly disneymade.

@dread3165 3 жыл бұрын

to be fair the kaminoans practiced eugenics and only let the very best of the clones live

@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 3 жыл бұрын

@@simpleclonetrooper2740 in your universe, probably. In my universe, you are slightly weaker than the average guardsman.

@PersonThatLikesFood Жыл бұрын

They sure did ruin them. Scout troops are some of the most accurate marksmen in that have been trained in the empire.

@DEFC0NZER0 Жыл бұрын

And the only reason they were missing during the speeder chase on Endor is because it's genuinely difficult to hit a moving target, even if, especially if you're moving as well.

@cybergames3436 8 ай бұрын

Well, stormsnipers are gonna need to be recannonised now to restore the reputation of their aim... alongside storm commandos appearing onscreen.

@CryosisOfficial 8 ай бұрын

@@cybergames3436 Anything produced before Disney bought the franchise is canon. Everything after is not.

@cybergames3436 8 ай бұрын

@@CryosisOfficial ultimately Disney dictates what is canon and we VERY rarely get anything even close to stuff from legends from LEGO, who I'm getting have to atleast mention to Disney what set ideas are, think our last legends set was the rebel sandspeeder?

@CryosisOfficial 8 ай бұрын

@@cybergames3436 No. Disney dictates what is canon to their "fan"-fiction (correction: shameless cash-grab) and has no bearing or authority over the true Star Wars that came before.

@ntfoperative9432 Жыл бұрын

Actually on Endor the Stormtroopers put up one hell of a fight, against the odds I might add. Considering the Ewoks had both the advantage of an ambush, and the home field advantage

@ezride445 10 ай бұрын

I mean I don’t blame them for losing since they were up against midget Wookiees

@cybergames3436 8 ай бұрын

They've retroactively made endors defeat make sence and dark as hell, ewoks hunt the stormtroopers on mass and are PURE MUSCLE under that teddy bear exterior and all the trooper helmets are eaten troopers.

@metron8496 3 жыл бұрын

My biggest problem with "The Mandalorian" was the lack of a sense of danger. Mando is basically invincible, with His Beskar Armor and Spear which can even go toe to toe with a lightsaber

@emmaspencer4586 3 жыл бұрын

It's basically a video game.

@bojesphob 3 жыл бұрын

With a lot of the lore for Mandalore (which some is canon still), Mandalorians fought against the Jedi on several occasions. Of course they would try to develop armor that could resist lightsabers.

@metron8496 3 жыл бұрын

@@bojesphob I'm not saying that it doesn't make sense from a lore perspective, just that it sucks the suspense out of any action scene

@attaulnoor60 3 жыл бұрын

There is a scene where Mando is so close to death, until grogu saves him. The mandoloriabn was not perfect, but it was balanced

@metron8496 3 жыл бұрын

@@attaulnoor60 I should have been more precise and say that my problem mostly applies to season 2

@teymursadikhov2980 2 жыл бұрын

Did you know, that there was a scene when Fin actually talked to the stormtroopers, and actually convinced them to turn on Phasma before she gunned them all down, instead that scene was replaced with BB8 hijacking an AT-ST and murdering scores of stormtroopers while Fin fought Phasma.

@handleonafridge6828 2 жыл бұрын

So what did the storm troopers do? Take off their armor and hump their air? Though that is pretty irresistible to be fair to Phasma

@aronarnarson 2 жыл бұрын

@@handleonafridge6828 bruh what

@AsianWomenareGold 2 жыл бұрын

Murder? Lmao I think you might have went a little overboard there. Its war. It's not murder if someone also has the intention to kill you as well. But yes, you are absolutely right on everything else my guy

@basic_avarage_person 2 жыл бұрын

@@AsianWomenareGold oh yeah if its war we call it brbrbrbrbrbr not murder

@AsianWomenareGold 2 жыл бұрын

@@basic_avarage_person murder is killing someone who doesn't A. Have a weapon. B. Someone who doesn't have the intent to kill. Yes. War is gruesome and very bloody. Death happens but it isn't murder if both sides are trying to kill each other. Understand this please

@Tyleregor4588 Жыл бұрын

calling Ewoks a clan of teddy bears is actually saddening because they can be described as deadly savages barely capable of being stopped

@djtrac3r935 Жыл бұрын

and we are led to believe the ewoks are good when they literally butcher stormtroopers...and fucking eat them, sometimes alive as well. Much like how soldiers in real life, Soldiers do not portray the governments of their country, they are ordered and they do what they are told. Sometimes if you exclude the fact the empire is ran by a sith, the Empire could be considered good since they are creating peace in the galaxy.

@The_Lute777 11 ай бұрын

They almost have the strenght of a wookie and wookies can rip humans apart

@Daniel_Huffman 3 ай бұрын

Seeing stormtroopers getting killed by Ewoks becomes a lot more understandable when you remember that these are the same Ewoks that nearly cooked our heroes alive, and would have done so had Threepio not used his magic to convince the tribe otherwise. Not to mention that the Imperials managed to rally from the initial ambush and might have still won had one of their AT-STs not been hijacked by a certain Wookiee.

@lazarpetrovic1671 Жыл бұрын

6:46 imagine if that stormtrooper shot rey and went away laughing that a jedi tried to use such a pathetic trick on this more expirienced trooper

@benmasta5814 3 жыл бұрын

Poor Finn. He had so much promise. A good actor to play him too. He just can't catch a break. Even in the promotional media.

@hellacoorinna9995 3 жыл бұрын

"WOOOOOH YEEAAHWW WYEAH DA REEEEEEEEEEYYYYY At? Yas'm ah's duh sannny tayshun eng'neer, yes ah is" ~ Finn "Soldiers deserve Soldiers, Sir" ~ Sgt Todd-3465

@seangallagher9435 3 жыл бұрын

@@hellacoorinna9995 what are you talking about?

@Homeschoolsw6 3 жыл бұрын

Disney WAS fixing it, with the Mandalorian.

@hellacoorinna9995 3 жыл бұрын

@@seangallagher9435 But you can't tell me it's not a little degrading to make the black character a Sanitation Engineer. Hell, all he needed to say was, "When I was doing Latrine Queen duties, Sir." or something to that effect. And then in the second movie he's bumblefucking around....up until the moment he almost redeems himself then gets pranged by Rose (who despite being all "Ra ra Republic, my sister died for them" now suddenly doesn't care about the survivors and is willing to let them die when the door gets blown off its' hinges because she wants to lubricate Finn's E-Web?) I think this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eN5lfZOVvJjWmGg.html is a better way for a soldier (especially a child soldier no less) to grimly approach their task.. ..than this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oZlza5aZ39HLZ6M.html I recommend you go watch "Soldier" (1998) some time.

@Slender_Man_186 3 жыл бұрын

@@Homeschoolsw6 no, Dave Filoni was fixing it. Disney, or more specifically Kathleen Kennedy is still trying to screw it up.

@MasterTSayge 3 жыл бұрын

REAL TALK: Rogue One is the only Disney property that had stakes and I felt something. The death troopers were no joke, they KILLED K2SO and other characters. Rouge One is still the best.

@Grandof-the-PentastarAlignment 3 жыл бұрын

Death troopers were the biggest joke of rogue one when Baze Malbus shot all of them with his huge repeating blaster but one of them dropped a grenade that killed him. Stormtroopers killed better than death troopers in that film.

@lazydonkey3617 3 жыл бұрын

@Fairfax i mean yea but it was still good and they couldnt really do anything about that

@tofurkey5613 3 жыл бұрын

@Fairfax I’d say that’s rebel’s fault though, no?

@graham5716 3 жыл бұрын

@@Grandof-the-PentastarAlignment Remember right when the Deathtroopers show up, they literally wiped out all of the remaining Rebel Forces in seconds and corner the few remaining characters, I do agree Baze being able to wipe them all out was pretty stupid but their entrance and wiping out the rebels was pretty badass.

@magni5648 3 жыл бұрын

@@graham5716 I mean, at that point it was pretty clear that the Force was playing silly buggers on those poor troopers something fierce. Random commando gets blown away for barely sticking his neck outta cover, and then Chirrut just goes for a walk across the field and everything misses him? Pretty obvious that the game was rigged there.

@novapaddock5545 Жыл бұрын

That’s why the Legends troopers are so friggin cool. They can actually decimate entire enemy battalions, and make the Rebellion genuinely afraid

@isfliper Жыл бұрын

One thing I wonder is that how can a whole planet of stormtroopers can even hit a girl who randomly found an elegant weapon with their stormtrooper friend, but they hit precise shots on a tin can man with anti-lightsaber armor. Did they literally just devolve.

@ArcticWolf00Alpha0 3 жыл бұрын

Rogue One is the only film that Stormtroopers are actually a constant threat.

@mzmuzo678 3 жыл бұрын

I loved that in Rogue One.

@ArcticWolf00Alpha0 3 жыл бұрын

Me too:)

@bemotivated8443 3 жыл бұрын

The best Disney Star Wars movie

@elijahbradley704 3 жыл бұрын

@@bemotivated8443 yeah by far. the others had good things in them, (for the most part) but none of the other disney star wars films still came close to rouge one

@Zaslanetz 3 жыл бұрын

They all got killed by some girl without any armor and blind monk with kung fu.

@jeffwang6460 2 жыл бұрын

The problem with stormtroopers now is basically the same as with droids in the 2008 animated series. Disney is just too scared of ruining their family image to put protagonists in any real danger.

@bruh-xb2uy 2 жыл бұрын

The clone wars from 2008 killed lots of major character

@Starman062 2 жыл бұрын

@@bruh-xb2uy less major and more strong characters.

@jspark8990 2 жыл бұрын

Not really they killed a lot of clones and droids some unnamed Jedi and the living embodiment of the word bastard (pong krell) Fives might be the more recurring character to have been killed off but even then he was definitely a supporting character unlike Rex or ahsoka who lived past rebels

@Aredel 2 жыл бұрын

They prevented the main characters from dying since they were going to be in Revenge of the Sith, but Clone Wars has never held back on violent and gruesome themes. For fucks sake, someone is tortured to death in the first episode of season 2.

@Jaerek 2 жыл бұрын

@@bruh-xb2uy No. They were even afraid to let Grievous kill Eeth Koth even though he doesn’t appear in EPIII, and nobody fell to swarms of droids like the actual war except one random Jedi character who was literally created to die (Ima-Gun-Di).

@jacobmaunder4380 Жыл бұрын

This is what i enjoyed about Rogue One, it was gritty and gave stormtroopers a purpose, they had effective aim, even against the main characters, with death troopers being the top of the line, hitting every shot.

@FriendlyCroock Жыл бұрын

ummmm no

@Dire_Pack Жыл бұрын

Death troopers missed a little bit... And all of them were killed by fat Asian dude

@FriendlyCroock Жыл бұрын

@@Dire_Pack lol I honestly think that Rogue One is the worst example of how to write bad guys. The worst moment being when Jyn grabs a storm trooper's gun and he just falls off a platform to his death. Just because she grabbed his gun too hard. 😂That's what killed him. It's also fascinating how it takes the empire a few minutes to shoot a woman who's pointing a gun at a leader. WOW Someone should tell Disney: "when you don't know how to write bad guys think of what the soviets would do."

@Dire_Pack Жыл бұрын

@@FriendlyCroock and how a squad of stormtroopers were wiped out by a single imperial droid. A blind guy beating the shit out of them. And fat dude unloading an entire mag into a squad?! Also, notice how in EVERY STAR WARS MOVIE/SHOW/ANYTHING THAT STORMTROOPERS ARE THE LAST ONES TO START SHOOTING? THEY ALSO CANT WALK AND SHOOT AT THE SAME TIME?! OR USE COMMON SENSE AS TO NOT CHARGE AT ENEMIES WITHOUT PROVIDING COVER FIRE?! Disney doesn't know how war works... They have no idea how combat works and only know how to make the enemy seem incompetent.

@Dire_Pack Жыл бұрын

Even worse when you realize that the Stormtroopers that they use as enemies are actually special forces basically! And that the special forces everyone thinks is the special forces (death troopers) are actually the Elite special forces branch!

@yaboidzejdzej Жыл бұрын

Tbh I loved the scene from mandalorian when they missed the can. But I agree with the points. They should be shown as somewhat capable of being real danger and not ridiculed at every single ocasion.

@CanIGetaGame134 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know what is truly worse: Disney ruining Star Wars or them being able to fix it so easily with little repercussions yet choose not to.

@snorgonofborkkad 3 жыл бұрын

This is the real point. It's not that it's bad. It's that there's no excuse for it to be bad.

@Flan17 3 жыл бұрын

Disney didnt ruin star wars

@meep9231 3 жыл бұрын

@@Flan17 Then explain the reactions to them fucking up Finn and Rose, or the blank slate that is Rey, or them telling George Lucas to fuck off and then destroying the story he worked so hard to develop. I respect your opinion I just want to know your thoughts on this

@Flan17 3 жыл бұрын

@@meep9231 I understand your anger and I despise the sequels but a lot of the hate is miss placed. They've made mistakes yes but I believe the worst is behind us. Let's take the sequels out of the picture and see what we got. Rogue one, solo, rebels, clone wars s7, two triple A battlefronts, squadrons, Mandalorian, all of the new shows and movies announced, countless comics and books and all of it canonically connected to one universe. To say they ruined star wars is over exaggerating ten fold, they revived star wars from the dead and without Disney there would of been no new star wars because George had no intention of continuing the franchise. Legends was never canon under George and it was a big mess of events. They did fuck him over in the early days but he sold Lucasfilm meaning he had no control anymore so you can't complain he lost power especially after the reason he sold was the hate for prequels (which I love). Not only that but he was on set for a lot of the Mandalorian so Disney saw their mistake and asked for his input again. This fanbase is the most toxic one I think I've ever came across and that truly breaks my heart because I love star wars. We need to stop blindly hating on Disney and start critizing them because they don't respond to hate too well.

@ben3129 3 жыл бұрын

@@Flan17 legends was canon, theres loads of references to legends in the films. coruscant is so called cos it was in the thrawn trilogy, aayla secura was a character in atoc cos george liked her look from the dark horse comics. The sith being extinct for a thousand years comes from dark forces two. The idea that legends was inconistent is a complete lie. THe original clone wars timeline was the most consistent thing in legends before 2008 clone wars messed it up. When there was inconsistinses in the old canon they strove to make them fit, such as the clone wars being ten years before it wa suppsoed to be, which was cleared up by saying the noghris calender was different to the standard galatic calender. Star was was not dead before disney. it was doing perfectly fine, by 2018 people were sick of star wars because of how bad disney had treated the franchise.

@drdurag5557 3 жыл бұрын

As a stormtrooper my self , usually we’re given the order to not kill just to miss to scare em or stun them

@GalaxyDogenut 3 жыл бұрын

Correct.

@Cocoshielie 3 жыл бұрын

I more like storm troopers than Other troopers lol

@Darth-vade123 3 жыл бұрын

Well stormtropper some time I get shot in the arm

@Darth-vade123 3 жыл бұрын

You guys kill common soldiers very often

@themaskedman757 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry you got such a bad rep dude

@bwbirds2230 Жыл бұрын

I'll always remember the first time i watched TESB and getting literal chills down my spine during the Lando Betrayal scene, where all the stormtroopers appear out of nowhere, surrounding everyone.

@madcap1129 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to hear ya’lls feedback from this idea. It’s an idea for a Star Wars show (that I doubt would ever happen) but for those who know what the show Band of Brothers is, it would be much like that. It would be centered around a stormtrooper squad that would face battle similar to the ones in the beginning of solo with the mud troopers. You would get to know each squad member and keep in mind these are just normal storm troopers, not super soldiers. Members would die each episode and they would be able to actually achieve victory. They would win and lose with each one coming with consequences of the characters you watched being killed off. This show would humanize stormtroopers, show that they aren’t mumbling bafoons, and show that death is a very real thing that can happen to protagonist and characters alike. The show would focus around one specific person, but rather the whole squad. Thoughts?

@godlymoose9118 Жыл бұрын

The 2003 clones wars series did something similar

@Linki8uu Жыл бұрын

Frankly I don’t care what kind of show it is I just want one from either the empire or separatist point of view because many people just think of them as robots or cannon fodder when their people ok not the cis but the stormtroopers are people they have emotions and I really loved what squadrons did and let you be a tie pilot

@markmathisen3908 Жыл бұрын

So, kind of a Saving Private FN-1142? Would actually enjoy that... if it wasn't made by Disney.

@rickyrackey7930 3 жыл бұрын

Ghidorah: “I destroy planets and threaten civilizations” Thanos: “I killed half of the universe’s population” Disney “I once refused to give a child a Spider-Man tombstone and didn’t pay a poor village.” Ghidorah: “Jesus Christ, dude Thanos: “WTF at least our motivations are just fiction.” Godzilla: King of the Monsters is like fine wine. The older the gets, the better it taste. The Disney trilogy on the other hand will age like Green milk.

@theoriginalman9426 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful indeed

@madnesscloaker1389 3 жыл бұрын

I hate Disney for that

@forgrim454 3 жыл бұрын

Nilus:I’m evil but atleast I can’t help myself

@MrCoolio1 3 жыл бұрын

Daleks: I may want to exterminate the universe but I’ve been clear with my goals from the start.

@cpt-cheese3489 3 жыл бұрын

The devil: I just wanna say I'm a huge fan

@Sableantelopeenjoyer 3 жыл бұрын

What I like about Jedi fallen order is that stormtroopers feel like real soilders who are just doing their job and feed their families. Their conversation lines sometimes make me feel bad for them.

@nihilus8554 3 жыл бұрын

They even had different personalities

@jamesmcaree8327 3 жыл бұрын

I-I'm the last one?

@pepsi2523 3 жыл бұрын

some of them are calling cal a traitor

@Davis... 3 жыл бұрын

"Had"

@serendipityfilms6769 3 жыл бұрын

@@pepsi2523 I'm still tryna figure out why and I'm not even finished the game

@johannr2658 Жыл бұрын

BTW In the first ever movie, stormtroopers were told not to shoot the main characters because the empire needed them so they could track down the rebels and find their base

@Daniel_Huffman 3 ай бұрын

If anything, that makes their aim even more impressive, as they are accurate enough to make it look convincing in the moment without worrying about accidentally shooting our heroes.

@reetial Жыл бұрын

9:13 its likly they killed about more than 10 thousand storm troopers. As the dead troopers horror comic says "Theres only 12 life forces, not the minimum 10 Thousand needed for operation"

@toganium4175 3 жыл бұрын

Stormtroopers deserve to be threatening. I feel like the writers of Disney Star Wars don’t understand the importance of respecting the villains.

@mariobadia4553 3 жыл бұрын

They were never threatening even in Legends they were always a joke and always will be a joke.

@randomcenturion7264 3 жыл бұрын

Not true. In Legends they got shit done especially under Thrawn.

@emberfist8347 3 жыл бұрын

@@mariobadia4553 That is bullcrap. They got stuff done all the time.

@myduckisonqauck7227 3 жыл бұрын

@@mariobadia4553 Cap, scout trooper bested a rebel on endor, and in the bacta wars one of the main characters gets no diffed by an average stormtrooper. Force unleashed, stormtroopers successfully occupied a corrupted and hostile Felicia. They are described as elite shock troopers. In fallen order thry are described as simply frontline soldiers.

@mariobadia4553 3 жыл бұрын

@@myduckisonqauck7227 I mean it makes sense that Stormtroopers are not that well-trained Palpatine doesn't give a flying shit about them.

@P3B11 3 жыл бұрын

Stormtroopers on the old comics: Badass Stormtroopers on movies and series: blasters goes pium puim * and dies *

@Shot5hells 3 жыл бұрын

I liked how in the old canon they were usually portrayed as elite and not even the main forces. Like how in 'wrong side of the war' after the battle on Jabiim Lt Sunber is thinking to himself about how none of his natural soldiers survived and all he has left are clone stormtroopers, who he finds cold and impossible to connect with. You see them just pushing through heavy fire despite the danger while imperial army soldiers are cowering in fear and dying anyway. I think it's technically still that way because Solo reestablished that stormtroopers are different from imperial army soldiers like Han. Although they're still called mudtroopers so it's confusing

@scoutman66 3 жыл бұрын

@@Shot5hells Yet you never actually see the Imperial army outside of that movie. In the other movies Stormtroopers are the main battle force

@goodmind4940 3 жыл бұрын

@@Shot5hells in canon Imperial Army got disbanded after reconquest

@ShockwaveFPSStudios 3 жыл бұрын

True

@clownduckkky9508 2 жыл бұрын

All movie villains that are expendable need to have bad aim like for example in commando the enemies are very bad at aiming but it’s not like there going to kill the main characters just so it can feel “REALISTIC” so the jokes need to stop because obi wan clearly says imperial storm troopers are precise

@rocketpack1749 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: In A new hope, Stormtroopers were under orders to intentionally miss, to let the rebels escape.

@jbow2106 Жыл бұрын

he mentions that in the video

@Zane-TheToiletSalesman 2 жыл бұрын

One way they could have one of the mandalorians get injured for example is having them be shot on the undersuit/The black liner behind the armor because from what I know it’s not meant for direct shot protection only protection for armor plates to dispute the heat from the bolt

@ethanjames5727 3 жыл бұрын

Lets not forget that the Stormtroopers on the Death Star were ordered to not kill the main characters and to let them escape

@Vchk1917 3 жыл бұрын

Man, that's my point when people talk about them

@ethanjames5727 3 жыл бұрын

@Phil Thomas I wrote this people I saw that part

@justanotherschmuck4149 3 жыл бұрын

@@RM-cn8pw Ah yes, let's remember the times when in the first scene of the movie they boarded the Tantive IV, killed everyone in the hallway when they had cover, and had only 3 casualties. or when they kicked their asses on hoth. oh but nobody remembers that, let's make fun of them for getting beaten by teddy bears! Ewoks know the forest, they set up multiple traps, and basically did a Vietnam. people make fun of them for being small. let's look at an orangutan, "HA hA LOoK At thE SilLy MonkE!" that thing can and will fuck you up.

@MistahFox 3 жыл бұрын

@@justanotherschmuck4149 Honestly, I always remembered the Ewoks as just triumphing over Stormtroopers with no effort, but re-watching RotJ last night made me realize that's not the case. Every stormtrooper they kill is killed by a surprise attack or a trap, with the Ewoks and Rebels outmaneuvering the Stormtroopers to win. Whenever the stormtroopers or ATSTs are facing the Ewoks, the Ewoks get toasted. Even Leia and R2-D2 get hit by Stormtroopers. The largest contingent are tricked out of the base and are forced to surrender by a pretty clever trick. In the Mandalorian they would have all just been shot by a side character with a pistol with no thought.

@USSAnimeNCC- 3 жыл бұрын

How tye fuck did i not remember that

@SGTRandleOneOne 2 жыл бұрын

The Clone Wars humanizing the troopers is WHY THE SERIES WORKS SO WELL. It's great. People have favorite clones. Why? Because despite the fact that they look and sound the same, they are written to be different people.

@jmurray1110 Жыл бұрын

Well they don’t really sound the same There is a fair bit of variation in their inflections, tones and volume that makes them rather recognisable and shows sone personality

@marks2807 Жыл бұрын

@@jmurray1110 Yet it was the same actor doing every clone voice.

@jmurray1110 Жыл бұрын

@@marks2807 yeah and the fact he got them all to sound unique is quite impressive

@timmarks976 Жыл бұрын

C.C (commander cody)

@hobbitpsi Жыл бұрын

Using the clones against storm troopers is a bad comparison. The idea was even though the clones had something that set each other apart, they were the same. Storm troopers are a regular army of many different individuals. Now if they did wanna do the Storm Troopers justice, make a show or movie purely focused on them which I honestly think would be a great idea.

@Rocket_Ninja Жыл бұрын

You should have talked about Star Wars Rebels because Its the show where Stormtroopers are in the peak of their humiliation, at least Mandalorians got their OPness justified but not a small group of rebels

@Daniel_Huffman 3 ай бұрын

That's one of the major issues I have with that show: It took what used to be an out-of-universe misconception and made it part of the lore, which makes a sane person wonder how the Empire was able to survive for so long if such inaccurate aim was common knowledge among its citizens.

@TheyFrNamedMeBen Жыл бұрын

I remember when everyone was so hyped for episode 7 until it actually came out Luke didn’t show up until 1 scene at the VERY END The protagonist and antagonist were just knock offs of the ones from the original trilogy And the guy we thought was gonna have character development and become the Jedi just ends up becoming the space bro to wannabe han solo

@cheeseman6016 3 жыл бұрын

Stormtroopers when facing any other person: “I could do this all day” Stormtroopers when facing a main/named character: “Please... have mercy, I beg of you!”

@theneonwarriors3794 2 жыл бұрын

Disney: there is no mercy

@jamesgratz4771 2 жыл бұрын

That’s been Star Wars literally always….

@LordVader1094 2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesgratz4771 Wrong. Watch the original trilogy.

@isakisak9989 3 жыл бұрын

I like the mandalorian but i agree on this stormtroopers and the empire in general constantly being portrayed as incompetent fools, is so boring HOW are these fools keeping regions under their fist when they suck so much?? My eyes rolled so hard when 2 scout troopers crashed into eachother for no reason in a mandalorian episode, id love a show where they are acctually good, and a threat like the clone troopers.

@vito 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was such an unnecessary shot. I have no idea why they included that crash.

@pilkers2 3 жыл бұрын

At least there’s dark troopers

@geoffreypereira8024 3 жыл бұрын

That's why the Death Troopers in R1 were so good. A villain- with GREAT design- you had to respect and who would hit what they were shooting at...

@narutardkyuubi 3 жыл бұрын

We understand they’re goons, but even goons need to be threatening for the heroes’ actions to be meaningful. Otherwise it’s like a bunch of competent adults beating up children. The officers have noticeably slipped as well. Remember how hyper-competent Piett was? Or how the Star Destroyers could counter despite being blindsided? It made it thrilling when the heroes won, because they were going up against competent villains.

@emberfist8347 3 жыл бұрын

Well, this is post-Endor Empire. The old lore had it that most of the best Stormtroopers are dead or retired (in the case of the 501st Legion) and most warlords resorted to just taking Imperial Army Troopers (the Empire's actual cannon fodder) and putting them Stormtrooper armor. The only major exceptions are Grand Admiral Thrawn (who had control of Vader's Fleet Death Squadron and some of the best Stormtroopers as a result and cloned them to boost his numbers) Warlord Zjsini (who created Stormtrooper type unit call the Raptor Commandos) and Ambassador Furgan (who still had control of the Stormtrooper Academy of Cardia). Moff Gideon is a normal fish in a small pond. Dude doesn't even have a Star Destroyer for a flagship so he isn't a blip on the New Republic's radar.

@justsomeguy2825 11 ай бұрын

Theres a reason why the rebels in the original trilogy always seemed on the Backfoot, why Obi Wan remarked about stormtrooper accuracy, and why the crew defending the Tantive IV were utterly crushed in minutes. Also, Stormtroopers get a bad wrap for the battle of endor, any soldier would have a hard time fighting off an ambush from an army of hyper strong man eating teddy bears with no preparation when the Ewoks know the land like the back of a hand.

@josuebarba9361 2 ай бұрын

I think people believe that sci-fi level armor should protect its user to all damage, but I kinda find that boring. It kinda adds to the world. Knowing that even in a setting in the future the environment can still be lethal in the most minor of things. But tell that to the prequel fan-brats and their beloved Clonetroopers who also can die by spear: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fqiCYMiovdzWZKs.html

@ohdeer2069 Жыл бұрын

Like most issues with Star Wars, a solution can be traced back to The Clone wars. The clone wars had a generic villain army in the form of droids. Despite being incompetent machines, they manage to kill of a fair amount of Jedi and a whole lot of clones. The clones on the other hand are the catalyst for storm troopers. They are formidable soldiers capable of fighting any force. When order 66 hits, they practically kill all the Jedi. In the season finale, ashoka gets shot a bunch and barely survives. They then transition to training storm troopers. They are soldiers raised from birth to fight, similar to the first order, yet one force can fight and the other can’t. I think that another aspect I would love to see storm troopers expanded on is the use of special squads. These could be death troopers, sith troopers from Fallen Order or even imperial guards. All in all there needs to be characters introduced that are built up to die, and let the storm troopers have a actual shot at being a threat. Great video

@godlymoose9118 Жыл бұрын

Sith Troopers weren't a special corps or elite squad within the First Order, they were part of a completely different organization

@SnowtrooperTW-5102 3 жыл бұрын

I hate how me and my mates are portrayed...

@Gmal51 3 жыл бұрын

William Garvin: I do agree.

@imperialsandtrooper6640 3 жыл бұрын

Same. We deserve better, dammit!

@drdurag5557 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you bro

@arcadianstudios7705 3 жыл бұрын

Oh dont worry. I believe that you and your mates are good shooters

@drdurag5557 3 жыл бұрын

@@arcadianstudios7705 thank you

@Charles_hodges 2 жыл бұрын

I've never understood why in all of starwars, apart from (ironically) the clone wars animated series, there is never an attempt to portray actual battle tactics. nobody takes cover, no one is covering the six, no one tries to be tactical. they just walk in gung ho in full view and the "good guys" win. so annoying.

@FieldMarshalYT Жыл бұрын

This is how it seems to be in most star wars after Disney took over (BUT it's quite common in pre-Disney content as well). It wouldn't hurt the writers and directors to do some basic research on how armies fight.

@staringgasmask Жыл бұрын

Ironically, TPM showed actual tactics

@FieldMarshalYT Жыл бұрын

@@staringgasmask The trade federation attack on the gungans was actually very well done. 1. Tested enemy forces with artillery fire, when it didnt work they sent in a large number of infantry to overwhelm the gungans. 2. When they breach the shield, they send elite forces like droidekas to destroy the generators, causing panic in the gungan ranks. 3. Chase the enemy with armor as they route from the field.

@staringgasmask Жыл бұрын

@@FieldMarshalYT I am fully aware of that, it's just that TPM is regarded as the weakest of the 6 non-disney movies, but also happens to have the best display of tactics in the entire saga

@timfromtarget5459 Жыл бұрын

in the words of the great Harrison Ford... "look kid, it aint that kinda movie"

@bunsenn5064 Жыл бұрын

Under George Lucas, people in the Star Wars universe were actually afraid of stormtroopers. They were intimidating to other characters facing them throughout the series, and we understood why that was the case. They could actually land a shot, and they were able to carry out Vader’s orders.

@impulseelectrobrine1259 11 ай бұрын

“Look sir droids” “aaah” “blast em! *misses*”

@impulseelectrobrine1259 11 ай бұрын

Andor and rogue one: “hits a dude off a guys back” “kills a bunch of rioters” “kills most of the ground rebels” “kills 3 of the main cast”

@toasted386 2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget, Stormtroopers are not the basic ground troops of the empire, they are more the elite forces. This is also shown in Solo, where Han is a basic imperial ground trooper, not a stormtrooper

@lilinsecure9642 3 жыл бұрын

princess Leia: they're obviously tracking us still goes to the rebel base

@LordVader1094 3 жыл бұрын

She knew they let her and the crew get away, not why.

@Comand94 3 жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 Yeah, but it's pretty safe to jump from that first assumption to the next. They let us escape, why? There's only one good reason - the Empire wants to end the Rebel Alliance, they don't care about four rebels that much. Honestly I don't think I can find any other reason there that would make that much sense or even close to it. They would've cared if they knew Luke would end up being such a threat, but they couldn't have known. Even in Empire Strikes Back they didn't care that much about Han, Leia and Chewbacca - they took them as prisoners instead of executing them to bait Luke (who still wasn't considered that much of a threat by Darth Vader or the Emperor, but they wanted him to further their goals of controlling the galaxy) and they felt pretty confident in their victory there. All I'm saying is they clearly made a mistake not just killing them outright, poor space nazis :(.

@malcolmjenkins3585 2 жыл бұрын

She wasn't the one piloting the ship

@perfectcell5613 2 жыл бұрын

@@malcolmjenkins3585 and Han didn't know where the reble base was only Leia did

@williammortensen9170 2 жыл бұрын

Only good stormtrooper moments were cyanide tooth and them cheering when they made it to the base did a good job humanising the troops only to kill them moments later

@CativaBR 3 жыл бұрын

Remember when on the clone wars show, we were introduced to a squad of clones still in training, saw them bond together, go through the ranks, and then nearly all of them got picked off and killed, one by one, during the different seasons? That'd never happen under Disney.

@marcaldovino264 3 жыл бұрын

I guess the last season of the clone wars and the bad batch dont exist

@TooCooFoYou 3 жыл бұрын

@@marcaldovino264 “BuT tHaT’S aLl DaVe!!! (even though it’s a rigorous process in which Disney, Lucasfilms, Dave Filoni, and Kathleen Kennedy are all involved in).

@MG-wx9ib 3 жыл бұрын

@@TooCooFoYou The last season of Clone wars was already written and the animation was in its first stages when Disney took over and scrapped the project for years. They had nothing to do with the actual story. Bad batch remains to be seen.

@HolyknightVader999 3 жыл бұрын

"ECHO!"

@Adamdidit 3 жыл бұрын

Like Rogue One, which hits a good chunk of those descriptions?

@magnushaveland2526 Жыл бұрын

I said this to my friends that loved Kenobi. I said how can 30 people miss someone standing in an open hallway without any armour. They didn't even notice it. But to me these shooting sequences are a joke and absolutely unnecessary. What is the point of having armies, if they can't accomplish anything. Like how can the might of a Star Destroyer not take out one single shuttle without weapons. It is like 72 tie fighters and a crew of thousands of people, reduced to being useless...

@KingHeatray 10 ай бұрын

Gina being fired for expressing a political opinion kind of proves her point... And when the majority of the government and social media platforms express the same "hypocrisy" as Disney (who loves concentration-camp China), I kind of does make people with Gina's political opinion, more discriminated against in the social space.

@handsup5855 3 жыл бұрын

Rebels: Kill Finn's squadmate Finn: Joins rebels

@itsssviper 3 жыл бұрын

He only joined to save Rey

@patricioalvarezcarbajal9031 3 жыл бұрын

@@itsssviper Finn is a simp

@itsssviper 3 жыл бұрын

@@patricioalvarezcarbajal9031 true he is a massive simp

@jockeyfield1954 3 жыл бұрын

@@itsssviper and he then got friend zoned then, at his final chance at redemption, sacrificing his life, he's saved by a female simp

@itsssviper 3 жыл бұрын

@@jockeyfield1954 yep

@Nikolapoleon 2 жыл бұрын

For me, the big problem with the "silly stormtroopers" trope is that it makes the universe itself too unbelievable. If the stormtroopers are THIS incompetent, what were they doing in the army in the first place? Were they not trained? And more importantly, if the stormtroopers can't fight worth a damn, how does the Empire even hold itself together? And, by they way, why would anyone want to arm, supply, pay, and command a legion of stormtroopers, when hiring a single mercenary for the same job is infinitely more effective?

@horrorfan117 2 жыл бұрын

Blame Tarkin, and his stupid doctrine. Instead of making sure they had a well supplied ground force the Empire instead focused it's efforts on super weapons that could be used to project fear throughout the Galaxy. It does make a certain amount of sense. The Clone Wars showed the inefficiency of creating and maintaining a large well equipped ground force that could be used to subjugate individual worlds. Instead why not have a few super weapons to scare inhabitants into submission, (and if needed eradicate the planet as an example) have a few elite squads to do the actual work, and conscript a larger but less trained force to give the impression that the Empire's power was everywhere.

@tr4480 2 жыл бұрын

@@horrorfan117 I put it that the inefficiency of handling the large military forces during the clone wars was not unlike the American Civil War, where you had a small army that suddenly bloomed into hundreds of thousands of troops all over the nation. The logistics and command structure extant just couldn't keep up with that and had to play catch up the entire course of the war. As it relates to the Clone Wars, there apparently were plenty of clones early on, but too few actual experienced leaders. Even the Jedi generals were flying by the seat of their pants when it came to command and control of large units. Theoretically the Empire sought to learn from the Clone Wars and develop a sort of Leadership training Program as well as efforts to pragmatically implement processes that would allow for better flow of troops and material to combat zones and the like. When you consider the size of the Death Stars, they'd still have to deal with the massive logistical support system in order to feed and maintain the personnel on the Death Stars. So whether it was a large military force spread out about the galaxy or a fleet of superweapons, you need still have large numbers of personnel and equipment to operate and maintain. The problem was the super weapons were highly vulnerable and inadvertently served to bolster, rather than weaken, resistance to the Empire.

@mdswitchy378 2 жыл бұрын

@@tr4480 ever thought this may be due a bottle neck in genetics. They mainly cloned jango fett. After so many clones, they may just start getting more problems.

@yourlocalmoron153 2 жыл бұрын

what makes it even weirder is that they came from clone troopers. they were pretty good, i mean theyre genetically modified soldiers trained to kill. i know they arent like Space Marines, far from it, but you would think their succesors would be around the same level if not a bit better.

@macthe12th84 Жыл бұрын

In the mandalorian, the empire has already collapsed. These aren’t "real" stormtroopers, they are random guys former imperial war lords trying to rebuild the empire have gotten to join their cause.

@jansandman6983 Жыл бұрын

I hope they make the storm troopers as competent as most militarized enemy in ghost in the shell anime. they portrayed their enemies as equally capable and not easy to mess with. when they say "oh this guys are the special forces" they really meant it.

@pokemaster123ism Жыл бұрын

I’ll say this about the “intergalactic spice girls”: that was a badass scene. You have a rebel shock trooper, an imperial assassin and two Mandalorian warrirors. It was a way better “female empowerment” scene than what was in Endgame. They’re all still baseline humans so they are still vulnerable, so it was cool seeing them kick ass

@graham5716 Жыл бұрын

It was boring

@chrisfromsouthaus2735 2 жыл бұрын

An easy way to solve the invincibility of Beskar armour, would be to have it heat up slightly with each hit. One or two shots isn't going to matter, but 20-30 with no time to cool down in between each one would cook him like a lobster.

@LordVader1094 2 жыл бұрын

Also have some damn physics. People get thrown around by blasters plenty.

@thebigchip1711 2 жыл бұрын

Literal plot armor

@archcampbell8487 2 жыл бұрын

I think the dark saber heated the beskar spear in moff gideons and mandos battle and strong snipers do send Mando flying I also much prefer fallen orders stormtroopers because they genuinely have conversations when they haven’t detected you yet like getting frustrated scared confident and when they see they’re troops die they get scared or self confident

@seriousnesstv7902 2 жыл бұрын

All they have to do is show that Din Djarin starts to feel overwhelmed and the patches that his armor doesn’t cover start to get hit.

@juliendacoolien3454 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah! I've heard a suggestion somewhere of the shots still leaving kinetic impact. Even if the blaster bolt is destroyed upon impact, that kinetic energy has to go somewhere, right?

@Hi-Im-Gib 2 жыл бұрын

I felt some empathy towards storm troopers in Jedi: Fallen order, especially when they start motivating themselves that they can go up against a jedi. It's funny, but also kind of humanizing. The empire'll just kill ya if you ran away, and you can either run away, or fight an ginger teenager with telekinesis and a glowstick. What else can you do except try to convince yourself, that if you keep shooting, you might just be able to kill the space wizard with a photon sword

@theancestor2040 2 жыл бұрын

Yea some were cocky some were scared they showed reactions to fellow troopers dying it made me feel bad for killing the ones that were afraid one of the best games I’ve ever played

@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer 2 жыл бұрын

atleast there not the main enemies usually..and there easy cannonfodder..and you can simply run past them if you feel bad

@UnstoppableDWade 2 жыл бұрын

Jedi is the bad guy confirmed

@Jaypes1 2 жыл бұрын

It occurs to me that rather than using blasters against the mandolorians, paint ball guns would have been more effective as it would have made it difficult for them to see through their visors. In fact, using paintballs against stormtroopers could be an effective moral high ground... they can't see you now because they're covered in paint but at least they're not mercilessly killed!

@linden6190 2 жыл бұрын

I mean… they did sign up for it

@fuoco1365 Жыл бұрын

The Phasma one hurts the most because as said she was hyped up to be an elite important villain in every advertisement then was thrown out. THEN they decided to try again they bring her back from the dead and start to advertise her again heavily for the last Jedi. EVEN giving her a NOVEL that makes her out the be a mad max nuked world tribal badass that prioritizes survival above all else not loyalty or anything. Then they decide to make her show up only halfway through the movie and give her an almost badass scene and then kill her off again simply because they didn't care enough to fit it in or work with it.

@DJMystrE2 Жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh dude this video is great! It needs to be broadcast somewhere for all to see! Thank you for making it, and I hope it reaches a large mass of people

@AVGyerra22 3 жыл бұрын

I've always dreamed of stormtroopers having the same treatment by the fans as the clonetroopers.

@randomcenturion7264 3 жыл бұрын

One day, my friend. It will happen. For a brief and beautiful moment, fans respected them with the rise of Nines, AKA TR-8R.

@LordVader1094 3 жыл бұрын

@GrantKP Well they always go with "sTorMTrooPeRs ArEn'T cLoNes" and act like they're terrible at aiming and all that other nonsense.

@flynnscommentary9353 3 жыл бұрын

Clone troopers? Don’t you mean overrated pieces of plot armor clad merchandise?

@luminescentpearl4126 3 жыл бұрын

@@flynnscommentary9353 Hold up. Take that back.

@anakinlowground5515 3 жыл бұрын

@@flynnscommentary9353 It's treason, then.

@robertsummers3386 3 жыл бұрын

Stormtroopers are actually really accurate, only thing stopping them is plot armor. We see them miss everything because the only things they're shooting at are main characters not meant to die.

@uhsund 3 жыл бұрын

Also REAL armor. Apparently the helmets suck or something which is why variants with different helmets are more accurate.

@robertsummers3386 3 жыл бұрын

@@uhsund Yeah, some troopers report malfunctions in the targeting system so they have to try to shoot with the E-11 scope.

@rps1276 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, i just dont understand, why there arent some scenes where there are some generic bandits or Rebel (even through thats the same) Troopers fighting. It would make a totally better view of stormtroopers!

@Markus1002 2 жыл бұрын

Stormtroopers are actually extremely accurate compared to real soldiers. Here's a good video about it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hpiEdJyU1K2wqoE.html.

@Definitely_not_ai 2 жыл бұрын

@@uhsund The helmets are literally the problem.

@TheBlacksheep219 Жыл бұрын

This is I loved the climax of District 9. The main character gets in a mech suit but he is still able to feel every hit that he takes. Thus giving the audience genuine anxiety because he’s not just a walking impervious tank

@smugwendigo5123 Жыл бұрын

Watching mando get hurt while fighting the mudhorner was honestly one of my favorite scenes in the mandalorian

@damianguevara9519 3 жыл бұрын

Disney ruined star wars completely. They could fix this by erasing the sequel trilogy from canon, but they are not going to do that.

@kendipl7342 3 жыл бұрын

and re make it.

@NitewolfFN 3 жыл бұрын

They did

@bbp2930 3 жыл бұрын

Disney destroyed Star Wars

@toshitajoshi3851 3 жыл бұрын

@@bilbobaggins9451 It's treason then....

@gdawwg1125 2 жыл бұрын

The Disney films are way better than the prequels . Like they are actually watchable

@goosebumpsemiliano9104 3 жыл бұрын

Disney didnt just ruin storm troopers...they ruined Star Wars itself

@SiddharthShenoy 3 жыл бұрын

@@RM-cn8pw Disney ruined almost everything Star Wars related.

@eziospaghettiauditore8369 3 жыл бұрын

@@RM-cn8pw you had to edit a sentence with eight words so that really shows your intelligence

@Lucklaran 3 жыл бұрын

Stormtroopers were "ruined" by Lucas by the time we hit episode 6. Seriously, he made them chumps for Care Bears.

@eziospaghettiauditore8369 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lucklaran truth. Sequels actually made some of them actual threats like the one that fought Finn

@turtlelord1292 3 жыл бұрын

While they do get mowed down in one scene in rogue one, the stormtroopers do successfully kill main characters and other rebel special forces

@fatalstudios1 Жыл бұрын

I feel like shooting plasma with extremely hard recoil is harder than it looks. 💀

@doctorfeelgood2670 2 жыл бұрын

"We watched them get beaten up by a bunch of Teddy Bears." bro you realize how fucking terrifying and deadly the Ewoks were right? Thats a pretty stupid remark lol.

@Mikethelegoguy90 3 жыл бұрын

I find it sad how people only see storm troopers as background death characters but to me I see them as special people

@markgeorge2200 3 жыл бұрын

Yes people who have their own views on the galaxy leaving their old lives to join a war effort they feel is right, no matter how wrong it actually is.

@alluringming 3 жыл бұрын

Been awhile but remember them being far deadlier in legend novels and comics

@reduxboi.8586 3 жыл бұрын

Ikr, the Jedi kill humans to beat the big bad and when they reach the bad guy they be like “don’t kill him, it’s not the Jedi way”. Wtf? They killed 1000 humans to get a guy and then say that?

@scoutman66 3 жыл бұрын

@@reduxboi.8586 What?

@Darktrooper99 3 жыл бұрын

I think stormtroopers are pretty cool. I can’t see them as “special” people when I have no emotional attachment to them like my bois, the Clones. I would still prefer to play as Stormtroopers over playing as Rebels or Resistance soldiers in Battlefront.

@benjaminhuether3846 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, this problem originated in Rebels, not The Mandalorian.

@dimebagforever251 3 жыл бұрын

We should've seen it comming

@memebrain2177 3 жыл бұрын

still owned by disney

@donnovandalusong266 3 жыл бұрын

At least they’re competent in Mandalorian (I can’t say the same with Rebels though)

@jackrutledgegoembel5896 3 жыл бұрын

it originated in the original trilogy. other than the first scene, stormtroopers miss practically every shot. it's a space opera, not a war film series

@thephoenixxm4160 3 жыл бұрын

@@donnovandalusong266 Competent? Did you watch this video at all? This whole video was basically explaining how incompetent the stormtroopers are in the Mandolariorian.

@ronparker5446 11 ай бұрын

This video was made 2 years ago. Andor came a few months ago, and took your advice -- and in my humble opinion, became the best Star Wars Universe TV show ever.

@ChopSueyyy Жыл бұрын

Easy fix for the Beska armor: Lasers dont posess any significant amount of kinetic energy, but burn the thing they come in contact with. Reflecting lasers doesnt work to 100%, so a certain portion of the energy still gets transferred and logically the Beska heats up with every shot deflected. If many shots hit, the metal can heat up so much that it starts burning you. That way Mando can still tank many hits, but would be able to get hurt really bad if there are too many people shooting him.

@crocsarethepurestformofwea3122 2 жыл бұрын

The issue I have is this: If stormtroopers have such atrocious aim, there's absolutely *NO* way they would've gained/maintained any sort of dominance.

@f9oeks965 Жыл бұрын

They don't have bad aim lol

@crocsarethepurestformofwea3122 Жыл бұрын

@@f9oeks965 That's literally the point I made

@lordpeanut150 Жыл бұрын

i believe how are they able to dominate the galaxy is thru their sheer numbers. The Empire have billions(or pretty sure trillions) of Stormtroopers

@piotrd.4850 Жыл бұрын

Ever heard about Idk, Korean War? Soviet Union?

@thehumancondition5764 Жыл бұрын

numbers

@ziontrask3459 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the two scout troopers did manage to kill Kuill and kidnap Grogu, but while that seems like it should show the threat the stormtroopers pose, they make the EXACT SAME stormtroopers not able to shoot a can from 5 feet away. It’s inconsistent.

@mpyb8176 2 жыл бұрын

I think they killed Kuill with a rifles but I don't think they had one but I could think they shot the blasters at gunpoint and the more further the target the more shit the blaster accuracy drops since blasters are shit weapons in general or were poorly manufactured

@Aredel 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. They ran down an old man and kidnapped a defenseless child. What an impressive feat from the most elite fighting force in the galaxy since the clones were decomissioned.

@TheManBehindTheSlaughter6669 2 жыл бұрын

Blasters in canon become less accurate the more distance the target is from the plasma projectile, so with those blaster pistols that have super short barrels and are also probably not being maintained properly since the remnant doesn't have as much resources as it needs to keep in top shape, makes the blasters very inaccurate unless you practice a lot with it.

@ic0nic707 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheManBehindTheSlaughter6669 if a GUN can’t land a shot from 5 feet away, then palpatine needs to be removed from office with his terrible choices in who can engineer blasters

@TheManBehindTheSlaughter6669 2 жыл бұрын

@@ic0nic707 you see blasters are different from guns in that they fire high velocity plasma bolts that with more distance become very innacurate, the longer a barrel on a blaster the more stable the bolts path and also high amounts of training with your balster can improve your accuracy a lot. We see that stormtroopers are more accurate than rebels in a lot of star wars media because they are put through a lot of training to better wield blaster weapons.

@preposteroussongs5572 8 ай бұрын

My biggest problem with stormyroopers is how they never used that stunning blast again after the beginning of A New Hope

@Egatrun Жыл бұрын

Am i the only one who feels empathy when stormtroopers die

@TK-2415 Жыл бұрын

Nope

@robynbowers888 3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: the stormtrooper that hit his head was actually the "these arent the doids we're looking for" guy. He felt the effects long after obi wan used the mindtrick on him which lead to him being clumsy, and couldnt think straight.. henceforth letting R2 and C3PO leave AGAIN and then was sent back to basic training for failing his job twice

@CHRF-55457 3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure he probably died on the Death Star when the Rebels blew it up rather than go to basic training again.

@GalaxyDogenut 3 жыл бұрын

Damn.

@CHRF-55457 3 жыл бұрын

@Kendall Bass no. But you can make it your headcanon if you like.

@samot4100 3 жыл бұрын

@Kendall Bass Yes it actually is it's from the cannon book, from a certain point of view.

@arch455 3 жыл бұрын

Dayum Never felt bad for a stormtrooper before

@matthewleto1180 3 жыл бұрын

We’ve been seeing a lot of Clone Trooper humanization, but Stormtrooper humanization is where it’s at.

@redactedoktor 2 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jal6g5OJuK7bgXU.html This is some red room shit and makes me feel really bad for this guy who didn’t know what he was getting himself into.

@cephery8482 2 жыл бұрын

Hell or just make them actual fascists like they’re meant to be. You see a little of this with the shuttle hijack, you dont have to make them empathetic but you cant half ass it where they’re just guys and get massacred regularly.

@ouussahhh 2 жыл бұрын

Mhm

@revengeofthesith. 2 жыл бұрын

nah clones are cooler

@LordVader1094 2 жыл бұрын

@@cephery8482 True. Either make them elite fascists like the Waffen SS and stop treating them like buffoons, or show a more human side. I'd love to see both so we can see the full spectrum of the people who serve the Empire, but it can't keep going on where they're both faceless bad guys AND incompetent morons. At least the films had them elite badasses who didn't talk much and got the job done.

@JamieZero7 Жыл бұрын

I would love the Empire to get it's time to shine. Showing Palpatine and Vader creating the empire. The imperial citizens are happy to sign up to be part of the stormtroopers instead of clones. Show Republic cities hating the jedi, etc. It would be so good to see and it raises the stakes. Because what is the point in even showing troopers at this point we know the plot armor won't allow heroes to die by troopers.

@threebythestreet Жыл бұрын

I hate the way Disneyalways act as though only storm troopers can't aim when in star wars almost no one can aim. In fact i feel like Disney thinks acknowledging stormtroopers not being able to aim is so funney it just encourages them to keep making the storm troopers a bunch of buffoons.

@ManofSex69 3 жыл бұрын

This is why I loved the clone wars and the CSI’s use of battle droids. They were incompetent yes, but because they were cheaply built so they could be produced on a mass scale. Their battle tactics started and ended with “walk forward and keep shooting”, because there were so many that it would eventually be enough to overwhelm the opposition. AND it allows for dramatic face offs with ordinary people, because the horde of enemies our heroes mow down by the hundreds are NOT the same as a regular person so the message and morals don’t conflict if you kill them. You can steamroll them, but they still are a threat

@ntfoperative9432 3 жыл бұрын

It's sort of like vollyfire from the 18th century, mixed with zerg rush. Just throw enough fire at them and something will hit

@matthiuskoenig3378 3 жыл бұрын

i still dislike it, they are still dumbed down compaired to the movie's depiction of battle droids. B1s used cover in the movies alot more than they did in the clone wars. whats more of a threat, a million battle droids slowly walking upright towards you, or a million battle droids make use over all cover available and taking crouching positions like they do in all 3 movies. in short i think they took it too far. especially when they changed the threat the droids posed to non-jedi and non-clones. we see small numbers of droids overwhelm padme in episode 1 and 2. yet we are epected to believe these droids are now unable to do a single thing to her in larger numbers? they even had an episode where unarmed lemur people defeated battle droids. the clone wars removed all threat that B1s posed. also the clones have serious plot armour, in the same episode droids will open fire as soon as they see clones, but if they catch them in the open at point blank range? nope they wait and give the clone a chance to do something. the plot armour was strong in that series.

@ManofSex69 3 жыл бұрын

@@matthiuskoenig3378 let’s not forget that Palpatine was controlling both sides. That is a HUGE factor in how the war went, because if he wasn’t trying to make it look like an even fight, the droids could’ve EASILY won the war. I assume they dumbed them down due to how the first battle went. The republic sent all 200000 clone units to fight a million droids, with another 4 million in reserve. They only returned with 1/3 the amount of clones they came with

@professionalantichristhate528 3 жыл бұрын

@@matthiuskoenig3378 one of the main changes I hated was the voice. The B1s in Phantom Menace and so on actually sounded like a battle droid.

@drewpeterson9236 3 жыл бұрын

The CIS droids in the movies weren’t really incompetent. I mean go watch the Battle of Geonosis they were certainly a threat there. It’s the dumb clone wars show that made them annoying idiots. Some things in that show are great but not the way they made the CIS army a joke.

@thegreatskinkpriest8104 3 жыл бұрын

I want a hardcore brutal WW2 style stormtrooper game/show so bad.

@bearsarecool900 3 жыл бұрын

Me agree

@HolyknightVader999 3 жыл бұрын

The original Battlefront II by Pandemic does that for you. You even get a Vietnam moment with them getting really steamed at the Rebels.

@kingm3202 3 жыл бұрын

A show like band of brothers, but with storm troopers

@AlliedX 3 жыл бұрын

Dude, a show that follows a squad of stormtroopers in battle getting brutal killed would legit be fire

@brettraney1753 3 жыл бұрын

You're Welcome! It may be a fan film, but it's REALLY well made. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qpx3iNuTldGnc3U.html (They actually released episode 1 of a series today, link below) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/brCpgJd2upuufqc.html

@SaberKnight18 11 ай бұрын

I might be a year late to it but I have a theory on why the stormtroopers might have been so bad in universe. This is after the rise of the new republic so holdouts are likely from imperial warlords. This could mean that the stormtroopers were not properly trained in the naval academies like the original sets of stormtroopers were

@brokenproperty8517 Жыл бұрын

Vito: Makes a video that Disney ruined stormtroopers. Disney who watched the video: Wow! This is worthless.

@randomcenturion7264 3 жыл бұрын

As a man who loves Stormtroopers and remembers the days before that “Can’t aim” crap was just a fan joke and not something in the lore, I thank you for giving the Empire’s finest the respect they deserve.

@paladyntt7232 3 жыл бұрын

The fucking stale normie jokes about stormtroopers make me wanna puke everytime i see them. Also, the constant, neverending fangirling over clones in the fandom, as if any of them other than rex could reliably hit the side of a barn in the show.

@starhammer5247 3 жыл бұрын

@@paladyntt7232 Commander Thorne, Sergeant Denal, that one guy who punched a droid, are you saying they can't hit anything? I agree that stormtroopers should be given more respect but everyone agrees (even in the lore) that clone troopers were superior to stormtroopers, another guy even said that stormtroopers themselves were inferior only to the clones in terms of ability, don't just say all clones were bad shots, as a matter of fact, in the canon itself, any clone that wasn't perfect was euthanized by the Kaminoans due to them being fucking psychopaths, the only reason 99 and a few others weren't euthanized was because of Kal Skirata, a Mandalorian and their trainer. In short, clone troopers are better than stormtroopers, but stormtroopers deserve more respect than they're getting.

@paladyntt7232 3 жыл бұрын

@@starhammer5247 Sometimes clone troopers missed super battle droids on the other side of the corridor just to get murdered by them. I agree that lore wise they were great and better than most stormtroopers - just wanted to point out how the clone wars show did them dirty as well. That's actually Filoni's fault cause he sucks at directing sensible gun fights and doesn't care about lore. And then the sh!t show called rebels happend...

@starhammer5247 3 жыл бұрын

@@paladyntt7232 Rebels happened because Disney gave Filoni too many restrictions, on Clone Wars his only restriction was, basically, no blood so Disney is also at fault for Rebels.

@randomcenturion7264 3 жыл бұрын

@@starhammer5247 👍

@henry3129 3 жыл бұрын

imagine if there was a scene where a bunch of storm troopers were talking trooper#1: oh hey rick how's you're daughter trooper#2: she's doing great, I actually just talked to her before we got deployed can't wait to see her again mando: *about that*

@ThatsOk83 2 жыл бұрын

They should do that. They made stormtroopers seem like they’re all evil at least from what I saw. Haven’t started season 2

@Urkki24 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatsOk83 i think season 2 had some better scenes

@tk-6967 2 жыл бұрын

It would be about grandparents or parents, rather than kids, but still good idea!

@KillerT-Bone 2 жыл бұрын

They could kill half the dumb and unnecessary side characters that we honestly don’t even remember the names of.

@tk-6967 2 жыл бұрын

@@KillerT-Bone Like Jar Jar? Scrap that, everyone knows Jar Jar

@jakeling7794 Жыл бұрын

It’s always so interesting watching videos like this and realising how much better the story could be if people who actually care about the franchise wrote or consulted on the films