Itzy proves that being a performance focused group doesn’t mean that you completely ignore having good live vocals

I like how despite criticizing ITZY, you can still praise them for any good qualities. This objectivity is rare in kpop 💕💜

What make Nmixx special is what we see in the studio is what we will get in the live. High notes, adlibs, Harmonies and everything. The performance is also exactly the same as their stage practice. They are one of (if not) the most REAL group in current Kpop.

"Nmixx's competence exceeds their own discography" 🔥🔥🔥 Edit: why are people using this quote to shade groups?? I just loved this sentence because is true for Nmixx, but I don't think this should be used to shade any group. STOP WITH THIS TOXIC BEHAVIOUR! Don't use Nmixx to put down other groups, and don't attack Nmixx because is not their fault.

yup, aespa didn't get to sing live on their many previous performances before. but, when they did...🥂👽👽👽👽

12:51 Haewon hitting an E5 like that in her mixed right after doing a D5 in her head voice

Aespa Giselle is so underrated. Despite many people considered her vocally “weaker” than the other three members, she consistently carrying their tone beautifully - especially the vocal layers and adlibs. She has demonstrated those on the recording sessions and back vocals videos. People often forgot she was a choir singer and her voice was used as the backing vocal in Black Mamba’s bridge! 🤩 (yes, that heavenly siren voice is hers). I found her sweet alto voice can balance WinNigRin’s high pitch. That’s why people thought she’s weaker but I think she just has her own league ☺️💖 I love how she never try to sing out of her range that some kpop idols did. Staying in lower register beautifully compliment her team members ❤

Groups that could be added in a part two: - Mamamoo - Shinee - Highlight - Brown Eyed Girls Edit to add EXO, TVXQ and The Grace

Nmixx really gives you hope that late-gen groups do have singing talents. They sing so well you'd think they are an SM group. Their practice video with live singing is really impressive.

Kiss of Life too! those girls love singing live. Belle is so good

It would've been better if you used aespas encore stages and University festival performances.Their live singing skill is truly on the next level.

I don't get why Lia gets the most bashed for her vocals in ITZY Like yes , Itzy as a whole are vocally weak but Lia is still the most developed so she should be the last one in Itzy to be get bashed for her vocals coz the other 4 members are weaker than her

lia adds so much flavor to itzy's music. i really hope she comes back soon, but i'm glad she's resting and taking her time.

Nmixx is really an incredible group.

Aespa has my favorite vocal colors of any kpop group! All of their voices are so pleasing to me and they compliment one another so well 💜

Bro I love Bae's voice so much QuQ brings something nice to Nmixx

I think we can put the issue of a group's vocal level of performance in four stages: 1. *Bad* Vocal Level - One who is unable to perform adequately. Very oscillating and, in most cases, will use playback and pre-recorded vocals. More than 90% of current groups are unfortunately at this level. 2. *Competent* Vocal Level - One who will do what is expected of a performance, having the freedom to highlight other characteristics without the vocals really getting in the way. The classic: raw vocals. In some cases they may surprise you. itzy can be at this level, as can IVE in some cases; stayc and, perhaps, gidle 3. *Good* Vocal Level - One that has the ability to replicate the studio version. A more "safe" vocal. It hardly disappoints what it delivers, besides the vocal itself attracts attention a little more than other possible aspects. The chance of surprises here is much greater and a little more frequente. I think currently kiss of life could be at that level, aespa (despite playback's problems), maybe baemon, and a few others. 4. *Great* Vocal Level - One that, for some reason, manages to improve the studio version. They are more courageous and have the vocals as the dominant aspect and what will attract the most attention regardless of other qualities that the group may have. In addition to having songs in which only they perform at the level of the original, that is, songs in which the cover will never be better. I think the 2nd generation was the one with the most groups at this level. There were some from the 3rd generation too and, currently, NMIXX is the only one with these characteristics. It's a group that since their debut has gone viral more for their performances and "acappella" than their music itself.

Why didn't use Aespa latest performance at university as a source? Five songs, all live despite Winter being sick, they're crazy skilled, and the fact their songs has so much high note

I spend at least 50% of my ITZY listening time wishing JYP would have picked a lower key. I worry badly about how forcing upper belts might damage their vocal chords in the long term. "Cheshire" is literally painful to sing along with and I usually just transpose it down an octave.

Aespa also sing live in their university same video you used in nmixx not only encore or behind recording

Leaving out Mamamoo makes sense. I don't think anyone who's into vocals has questions about their "vocal competence". I enjoyed the way you profiled the groups here. I've always liked ITZY's vocals, while knowing they weren't Mamamoo/SPICA/Big Mama level (3 of my favorite groups). But now I can explain WHY I like their vocals: they're solid enough for their songs and concepts, and when we see/hear them live, they're ALSO comfortable singing and showing their voices.

I mostly agree with everything, but as "effortless" as aespa's singing looks, they've said time and time again it's a result of constant training!

Everyone in aespa have good vocal control and technique they are very considerate of each others vocal color, they're so good at blending that they're live even sound like the recording version, no muffled or breathing sounds, so clean. I love aespa's encore stages, they are so stable.

I don't listen much to Aespa but they're so good despite debuting during the covid period and not singing live much back then. Giselle the main rapper can easily outsing many lead and main 4th gen singers.

i love clips from nmixx's lives when they sing a lot of different songs and i know their covers will be amazing cause their tones, their skills are just fantastic. and it's only the beginning of their career... they're so impressive

Thank you for bringing up Lia!!! Really want her back but I understand she needs her rest. I just really hope she isn’t leaving

I saw Aespa in concert.... they were INCREDIBLE

Personally I love Aespa’s vocals. I adore their tones and how they can make me feel lots of different emotions. Just wondering, would you ever consider ranking 4th gen girl groups based on how competent they are vocally? Or ranking soloists?

nmixx you will always be perfect

Yeah, ITZY is pretty decent I'd say, at least their encore stages are really fun for me ^^ Still, nice to have some list of competent groups, it feels less and less important nowadays :/ (I meant decent not dance :D). In my opinion, them and NMIXX are perfect examples of groups who can sing live (well) even with hard choreo. Much appreciated.

aespa has just performed 6 sets of five songs fully live in different univesity festivals the past couple of weeks... Can we let the narrative that they barely sing live on stage die already?

Finally someone talking about itzy, they have a good vocal live, they are capable to sing their own songs even though the songs and coreos are not thar easy, but people pretend they are bad.

I always regret why I was late to the NMIXX party. Coz those girls are 🔥🔥👌 *Super Talented* They always deliver. I just slept on them before.

Oh Haewon the idol sleeper... the gurl is so special!!.. NMIXX is the best period.

Sure, NMIXX is my fave, but Itzy and Aespa are totally awesome too. All three groups are the real deal. Haewon is my top K-pop girl group singer, and I have no doubt she'll soon join my other beloved singers, Ki-Young Park and Ali, as one of Korea's top divas.

Thanks for the video it was really interesting and highlights the talented groups we have in kpop !❤

NMIXX is so good that their haters throw hate at them for singing live like it's a bad thing. Normally, idols get hate for lip syncing but NMIXX is the only group that gets hate for flexing their vocals 😂

Wow you made my morning ❤

This video turned in to a nmixx love fest , love it.

The whole "aespa never get opportunities to sing live" is so outdated, basically every group has been forced to sing live at all the university shows, it's like a new trend, nobody wants to end up like le serafim.

Yay I just refreshed youtube and the video popped up :D

NMIXX is a fresh air in K-pop. Special mention: aespa

NMIXX are really passionate , just watch all university concert we can see they really love perform on stage

I love your videos but also want to see you analysing different groups. Especially nowadays, Zerobaseone. Some members seem to really have a background while some members have distinct or at least very pleasing voices and i want to know what would help them use their voices better. I feel like their color variety is noteworthy. So i wish you could analyse each of their strengths/weaknesses.

I’m so glad itzy was included, I’m tired of them being thought as bad vocalists while their vocals are decent/ average

Como NMIXX no hay otras, son espectaculares

Kinda wanna see a 3rd gen version of this

You shoul’ve choose another studio recording from Aespa 😅 like the one when they recorded for their solos was absolutely amazing that’s how i knew Karina’s vocals were insane

I love that you included Itzy! People take it as an insult when anyone calls attention to the fact that it's not a group of vocal powerhouses but not every group has to be. I would argue that most groups shouldn't be and they shine when each member gets to play to their skills. Their strength lies in their fun composition and performance ability, and I'd much rather a group hit their specialties out of the park than continuously swing and miss because they can't live up to an out-of-range, over-edited recording. Itzy almost always delivers on a performance that looks and sounds just like it did in their MVs and singles and they're easily one of the most fun groups to watch live because of it.

Dreamcatcher may be a relatively small group from a small company, but they don't play around when it comes to vocal ability.

I agree with everything you said in this clip. WOW

This video is full of talent 🔝🔝🔝

I HOPE ONE DAY YOU MAKE SOME ANALYSIS VIDEO ABOUT DAY6 AND XDIONARY HEROES VOCAL!!

itzy proves everyday that being a performance based group means being good at performing... which includes live singing.

You also could have referenced the recent cover of “This Is Me,” with Ailee and Lily.

Nmixx change up let's go

its a great day every time aint no other fan uploads

❤❤❤❤Aespa and SM,S ARTIST

aespa ❤ Their newest album is such a bop They really showed how versatile their vocals are like Live my life>>>Mine>>>Melody>>>Bahama Like WTH those sounds like different groups and they still maintain the aespa sound

Please talk about every active kpop group who can carry them self despite not being best vocalist.

Great selection, fan of all of them. Thanks for including ITZY, they're looked down a lot. I had the opportunity to attend their concert recently and they held the 2:30 hr concert incredibly. Their level of energy is fire, their dancing is so so pretty and, although to me they didn't sound purely live (I think there must have been some sort of filtering because they sounded just like the albumns and that is not realistic) they were amazing.

10:35 to 10:43 uh I know you probably didn’t say this with bad intentions but it sounds so bad bc aespa has already sang many times live while dancing and all of them sound good, obviously they have less material and less opportunities to show it bc of their label but that not takes away how good their sound while dancing

hope that in the future you will include kiss of life! i really recommend checking out their sixth sense cover. such a talented group.

The title: Vocally Competent Groups in Kpop Also the video: Not even a single boy group in the video Maybe change the title to "vocally competent girl groups in kpop"

Ma Boy, sorry that your voice took a bad hit, I hope you'll recover soon, and thanks for the great video 🥰

Male version(imo): Exo Seventeen Shinee

I think you should look into ZB1 (Zerobaseone)! They are not a sensational group, but for the fact they have 9 members, they're a group with vocal qualities - compared to other 4th and 5th gen groups, especially male groups - with a few very nice vocal tones (Ricky, Jiwoong, Matthew) and also a few members that support really well (Taerae, Hao), even members that actually have rapper/dance as their main position yet sing very good (Hanbin, Gunwook). Some lack consistency and stamina, but I've found them very refreshing for this new generation, especially since a lot of them show musicality through being able to harmonize, use vibrato, being able to switch between chest/mix/head quite decently, showing they're aware of at least basic training.

Oh My Girl is up there tbh. 4 out of 6 members hold their own great.

Can you do one for boy groups..from the ones ive heard, SEVENTEEN,EXO,Shinee,btob, they have strong vocalists who ace at live singing

Can you analyze Haewon with Ai lee

Itzy may not have that tone people desire or that bombastic vocal range. But of all groups in KPOP, they are the most stable. They can sing while dancing the most difficult choreography. And in my book, that’s idol material.

Nmixx es actualmente el grupo más talentoso en cuanto a vocal, todas son super buenas

0:45 nah starting with itzy is perfect tbh, the girls are great performers and are stable when singing live. Even though they aren't the best vocalists in kpop, they all don't lack breath control and, in my opinion, that's honestly more important than most things when you're in a kpop group

If you ever look into another boy group, I’m curious about your opinion on Oneus. They’re a junior of Mamamoo and under the same company as Purple Kiss. Personally, I think they have great vocals particularly Seoho, Keonhee, and Leedo (as they do most of the singing) but would love to hear your opinion as well!! 🤍

I think the omission of renowned powerhouse groups like Mamamoo makes sense. We don’t need to talk about vocal competence in Gen 2. We know what they’re capable of. It’s Gen 4, with its general focus on dance and performance, that benefits from a discussion of vocal competence. I think this was a very balanced and effective video essay!

Please someday talk about the second generation vocalists

If you can find NMIXX university performance you can clearly find Aespa live university performance too.. without complaining them not performing live 🤣🤣

Day 5,374,890 of kpop stans doing anything & everything in their power of down playing & discrediting nmixx in every worst way possible as well as giving them non-stop backhanded compliments.

Aespa are amazing for real. Their voices compliment each other a lot. Their music is amazing as well. For example, I love Nmixx's vocals but I can't stand their music.

Please do a Riize video. they are the 5 gen vocal beasts

Great

Sabemos vc é considerado um bom vocalista quando é capaz de a acompanhar a nossa DIVA AILEE

Aespa is the favorite👑👑👑

LMFAO i had to comment the way you kept introducing the ggs had me cackling. 😂

I'd really like if IVE was also mentioned here tbh- In terms of technique they are far from Aespa or Nmixx but thier live singing is impressive Their vocals during that I AM stages & encores , Royal , Off the record , My satisfaction , Next page , Shine with me , HEYA performances ate

If you are going to do one for bgs, please check out Treasure's live vocals from K-wave and also Summersonic Festivals. Thank you.

There should be ZeroBaseOne among the most competent vocal groups here. They are hands down among the best ones, most of the other members are able to hold their own voices as well.

honestly with the clips you showed i wouldnt even use the word weak for itzy,, imo at worst I would just say solid. They all have a baseline where they can competently sing their songs (we don't talk about cheshire thats just unfair) and there are no obvious holes. Weak I would describe members of groups where singing isnt their strong suit and have few parts because of it

What is the song used for the instrumental at 0:23 and 13:46. It’s so familiar and it bothering that I can’t figure it out.

I'd put StayC in the functional tier too. They're not great vocalists but are able to pull off their parts live.

My favorite singers for 4th gen is no rather than Aespa, Versatility, precision indeed

Dreamcatcher can sing for real you should check them they are amazing

I think it’s interesting that no one really mentions Gidle in the 4th gen vocals discourse. Although they might not be on the same vocal level as Aespa or Nmixx, I think they’re still solid vocalists. What’s cool about them is that all their voices have very unique, distinct vocal colours. Minnie has one of the most insane vocal colours ever in Kpop, and so does Yuqi. It’s quite rare that all the members have unique voices that are very distinguishable, and I think that in itself is very impressive. Also Miyeon and Soyeon are very strong vocalists that I think hold a candle to the other main vocalists of the 4th gen!

Can you do a Vocal Analysis on Bini? A Filipino girl group?

these puns got me good

12:50. Where can I find Haewon and Ailee singing? ❤️‍🩹🥲

CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE AN OBJECTIVE VIDEO ABOUT BYEON WOO SEOK????

itzy and nmixx choreography or both intricate and jumpy, yet they both don't undermine vocally fulfilling their performances. that gives me hope for these new gens.

That's why, I think ITZY sets the standard for nowadays groups. At the very least those newer groups should have stability (practiced please) for all members to perform live, not just having 1-2 good vocalist and the rest members are meh...

I think babymon is such a great vocal group as well especially with rami n ahyeon (coming from jype stan)