Absolutely, I wished his church that he pastors at ad closer to DFW area.

You should be far more concerned with how God will judge you for you and Voddies lies.

Ifihada Hammer what lies?

My Black skin speaks louder than sexuality. The advice I would give anyone engaging in these kinds of debates is to fight oppression where you find it, otherwise you're arguing, which is a waste of time. Dr. Baucham believes in notions about homosexuality which lack theological, historical and scientific context. He should be called on it because it fosters "telling the truth while telling lies" (my quote), which historically, but not always, and not everywhere, has done great harm to individuals attracted to their gender, due to no fault of their own. It has allowed folks of good will, and their opposites, to speak nonsense, and do evil, in God's name, which is why it must be vigorously challenged, and why Christians and others shouldn't be perpetrators and bystanders when individuals, organizations and governments suppress, verbally abuse, physically attack, jail and murder fellow human beings for practicing the "love that dare not speak its name," for race, for religion, ethnicity, nationality, or gender, or homelessness or economic status, for instance. To mock our Christian Commission to practice love, the fourth- and greatest-commandment, puts us in mortal danger when eternity beckons because, in the end, nothing else matters. We are our sisters keeper, or aren't. We are our brothers keeper, or aren't. Everything negative about the human circumstance happens for making scapegoats of individuals and categories of people. We have all the excuses in the world for why we do this. Pointing fingers at others in judgement is easy, and puts one in mortal danger. Christians and others can speak about sin and temptation all they want. Look in the mirror for why the world is broken. And keep looking to find who must do better. Don't tell me you're "Christian." I know one when I see one. With all due respect.

Kevin Boone, My brother, if we believers live by example of the word we minister that is set forth by Jesus, the sins committed would not take place..amongst the vast majority of them...For instead of us saying we were sometimes like that to the sinners...The sinners are saying you have become like one one of us ...Jesus never minister about homosexuality...He spoke about marriage between man and woman..... Those that believe on the Lord God Jesus Christ must not exclude what is written in the Scriptures of the events that took place in the Old Testament and what is written against such practice, or what is spoken of in the New Testament..We have to be careful how we pass judgment on others..For the only sin not forgiven is the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit of God...The commandments are instructed by Jesus for us to follow....And who can know the heart of man ? Only God ...And his grace and mercy is going to be sufficient....For all will not enter, into the Kingdom of God..You have made a lots of valid points👏May the Lord Bless You.

*_Yes Ed all who have seen you post your highly ignorant and hate filled comments have know that you are with idiots like these people all the way._*

totaltranquility I keep very good company. Speaking the truth is not hate and believing the Bible is not ignorant. This is just one more opportunity to help my brothers and sisters respond directly, lovingly, and firmly to men like you who are out to destroy the Christian faith. And I welcome it as a wonderful privilege and hope it will result in your repentance.

***** _If you consider Biblically ignorant religious hypocrites like yourself to be good company, than you are correct. You have never spoken the truth on this, and you have been proven wrong over and over again, but you are far too indoctrinated and or homophobic to realize it. It is you that is in need of repentance for perpetuating the lies and distortions you post._ _Homosexual sex has never been listed by God to be anymore a sin than heterosexual sex, and you are incapable of proving otherwise._

@@totaltranquility What Bible are you reading? The Queen James Version?

If he uses religious beliefs as part of his argument he has forfeited logic.

@@cnault3244 "If he uses religious beliefs as part of his argument he has forfeited logic." Who told you that? And why did you believe him? Remember, there is either a way for sins to be forgiven or there is not. Only the Creator could defeat sin and death. Praise the Lord Jesus for defeating sin on the Cross! Praise the Lord Jesus for defeating death with His resurrection! Praise the Creator for making a way for sins to be forgiven!

@@InternetDisciple ""If he uses religious beliefs as part of his argument he has forfeited logic." Who told you that?" No one told me, I determined it myself using logic and reason. Religious beliefs are taken on faith, not evidence. If someone uses any belief they have that is based on faith as a part of their argument, their argument is void since they have not proved their belief is valid. "Remember, there is either a way for sins to be forgiven or there is not." The word sin is defined as "a transgression of a divine law". For the word sin to mean anything, two things must be accomplished: 1) prove a god ( or goddess) exists 2) prove what that god ( or goddess') laws are

@@cnault3244 "No one told me, I determined it myself using logic and reason." What supposed logic and reason were you using? So far, all I've seen from you is empty declarations. Anyone could claim that their side is supported by logic and reason. Are all that you have is empty declarations? If not, then why not post your supposed logical reasons? "Religious beliefs are taken on faith, not evidence." Atheism is the philosophy of blind faith. Christians have faith, evidence, and logic. Remember, there is either a way for sins to be forgiven, or there is not. "For the word sin to mean anything, two things must be accomplished:" What makes you think that lies do not exist? "1) prove a god ( or goddess) exists" What about a Creator? Are you educated enough in basic science to know that there is a Creator? I mean, you do know that matter can't create itself, correct?

@@InternetDisciple "What supposed logic and reason were you using? So far, all I've seen from you is empty declarations. " I haven't seen any evidence for any god. For that reason, all religious beliefs based on belief in a god can be rejected. You could prove my position wrong by presenting evidence for god. "Christians have faith, evidence, and logic." Present the evidence. Star with evidence that Jesus was resurrected, since the entire religion is based on that belief. "Remember, there is either a way for sins to be forgiven, or there is not. " You skipped a step. For your statement to mean anything you have to prove sin exists. to do that you have to prove a deity exists. Go ahead. ( going by the Bible story of forgiven sin, to have your sins forgiven requires god to sacrifice himself in the form of his son before he can forgive you for sins you haven't committed yet because this happened millennia before you were born... Question: if I robbed from you and asked a random stranger to forgive me for robbing you, and the stranger forgave me, would you be satisfied? Question: if I robbed from you and later returned and asked you to forgive me and you would forgive me would you: 1) forgive me after I asked for your forgiveness? or 2) after I ask you to forgive me tell me "yes, I will forgive you but before I can do that I have to beat my son into unconsciousness"? "What about a Creator? " Define what you mean by creator. You also talked about sin, which implies a god and a religion. "Are you educated enough in basic science to know that there is a Creator?" Can you point out a science book that says this? "I mean, you do know that matter can't create itself, correct?" What is this alleged creator you are talking about made of?

link please

The self righteous have been using this story in order to subconciously justify contempt and hatred through subjective comparison for thousands of years. The story in which the hero of the story offers his virgin daughters to a gang of men to be raped and these same righteous women later get their father drunk in order to have sexual relations with him.

@@christopherscheiber1439 hero of the story? Lot? are u sure about that. theres only one "hero" and it aint lot. try again.

BLACKS ARE NOT LOGICAL PEOPLE, BLACKS GO OFF EMOTIONS. HES GOIN OFF EMOTIONS NOT LOGIC.

Are the SSA feelings really gone? I hope you'll answer.

I have zero ... zero desire to live the homosexual lifestyle, and ANY attractions are gone .... I look toward living an eternity in heaven forever .... wrap your head around that

wow cool. congrats bro. SO its safe to say that you are now straight (again)?

Mstar ..... yes, I am, absolutely 100%

wat was your biggest rock bottom that made you stop being gay. and how many years was you gay.and how many years it took you to become straight.

Who cares about homosexuallity? Voddie only uses his hate against a group of Americans so he can promote himself. "Stop believing what they believe?" What an idiot.

Idiot seems like a common word lately . Stop promoting lies . He is a man of God speaking truth . Truth is not hate . You hate the truth !!! The Bible speaks the truth .

Susan Day Man of G-d? If G-d hates homosexuals, then why did He make them? And yes, idiot is a common word these days because of people like Voddie and yourself. Is your life so terrible that you have to drag others down to stew in the misery you live in? Instead of tearing down other humans with your hate, why not spend the time building yourself up?

You are the one name calling , I speak blessing over this mighty man of God . All your words cannot change the truth into a lie . Your father satan has been a liar from the beginning .

Susan Day Praise GOD! Don't back down. L Kuv is obviously uneducated. We all need to be better educated. This commentator does not understand that your life is not "so terrible that you have to drag others down to stew in the misery that you live in". The life of a true Christian is not steeped in misery, and we are not tearing down other humans with hate. Quite the contrary - if we hated homosexuals, we would never speak to them about Jesus Christ and salvation for their souls. We would just keep our mouths shut and watch them "steep" in their misery now and for eternity. They don't understand that we pray for better things for their worldly existence and hope for their eternal souls (and for our own.) Because we understand that it is not OUR goodness that saves us, but the sinless shed blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. We must be obedient to our Lord by following His Word as closely as we can with His help. We can't "spit in His face" by our blatant disobedience and expect His Lordship in our lives. GOD's 'chosen' certainly didn't get away with it!

_You should try being less Biblical ignorant!_

Really? you must not read your Bible. Then again you don't know what the Bible says about sin..

blase410 thumps up dude 😊 I totally agree

_If by_ *"Outstanding!!!* _you mean hatefilled Biblically ignorant religiously hypocritical lies, you are correct._

totaltranquility No! Disagreeing with the homosexual community is not hateful. Name one group that is not hypocritical or non-tolerant?

Dwayne Sanders _There is a huge difference between basic hypocrisy and religious hypocrisy. Jesus Christ detested religious hypocrisy, and He could hardly tolerate religiously hypocritical people. Voddie Baucham and everyone who agrees with him on this are some of the worst religious hypocrites alive. The statement that homosexuality is a sin is hate speech. That statement and belief has caused nothing but harm and death to multi-millions of God's children._ _You and your ilk do far worse than simply disagree with the homosexual community, you demonize them, oppress them, harm them, and kill them. The worst part is that many of the same things you do and say about them were used and said about us blacks, and relationships/sex/marriage between us blacks and almost any other race._ *_In the US, almost all Christians fully believed that for a black to have sex with a white was a sin._* *_The primary reason for that was based upon the fact that they were either indoctrinated into believing that lie, or because they want to believe that lie._* *_The same is true in the case of same gender sex!_* _I fully believed that any and all homosexual sex was listed to be a sin in the Bible, that was because I was taught that. AKA I was indoctrinated into believing it. Years ago, I broke free from that indoctrination, through educating myself on the Biblical Scriptures, and through guidance from Christ and the Holy Spirit. I now know for a _*_FACT_*_ that homosexual sex is no more listed to be a sin by God than heterosexual sex._ _Religious beliefs aside, much of this is about equal and civil rights! In the US religious beleifs are irrelevant, or at least should be irrelevant when it comes equal and civil rights. Or are you okay if your equal/civil rights are denied again because of other people's so called religious beleifs?_ _Voddie Baucham and his ilk are on the wrong side in this, and they are justfully and rightfully failing. Him and his ilk are all going the way of the racists, and history will view them in much the same way it views racism._ *_I thank God for that,_*

totaltranquility Completely wrong! You tolerate everyone's belief? The purest tolerance is excepting everyone regardless of what they believe. You proved nothing by spitting this foul drama. Please provide proof of Christians hating homosexuals. Please provide research or studies about hate crimes committed by Christian groups. "I now know for a FACT that homosexual sex is no more listed to be a sin by God than heterosexual sex." You are correct in saying that non married heterosexual and homosexual sex is a sin. The Bible is clear with this message. YES!!! But the Bible only praises and endorses heterosexual marriage. "In the US, almost all Christians fully believed that for a black to have sex with a white was a sin." Please provide proof! I'm black and belong to a predominately white church and married to a white woman. I don't feel any hate at my church. Its ok to disagree with any group and not hate them. Its possible.

Dwayne Sanders *_"The purest tolerance is excepting everyone regardless of what they believe."_* _You are stating that slaves should tolerate their slave owners because they believe they should have the right to own slaves!_ _If you require proof of how Christianity has viewed homosexuality, and the affect many Christians have had on it, I recommend you stop being an ignorant fool!_ _Why don't you provide what a true marriage is according to God?! And, I am not referring to the man woman aspect._ _You love your philosophy of Christ, not Christ's philosophy._ _You follow eisegesis over Jesus!_ *"I don't feel any hate at my church.* *Its ok to disagree with any group and not hate them."* _Thats just marvy! In my church we all believe that blacks are an abomination according to God and Christ. We all believe that if blacks have sex with humans it's a sin._ _No hate their, just disagreement._

But does Paul's injunction not to judge outside the church mean that Christians are to be "muzzled" and cannot speak out, even generally-inside AND outside the church-against immorality? Surely not. Paul does also charge us, in Ephesians 5:11, to "have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness," but rather to "expose them..." In John 7:24 Jesus tells us (inside the church only? or also outside the church?) to judge not by appearances, but "with righteous judgment." And Jesus' famous passage in Matthew 7:1-5 ("Judge not, lest ye be judged...") admonishes only against rash and hypocritical judgment, or consigning others to hell (which only God can do), not, it seems, against all discernment or fair, proper judgment. After all, later in Matthew 7 (vs. 20) Jesus asserts that "by their fruit you shall know them," implying that some sort of "judging"/discernment is allowable and even necessary, though, admittedly, that doesn't necessarily mean we must vocally share our "judgment" with those we are "judging" or that we are to exercise such judgment outside the church. But I DO know that non-Christians love to throw up Matthew 7:1 ("Judge not, lest ye be judged...") in Christians' faces as a tactic to silence or muzzle us from speaking out against evil, and surely God does not mean for us to remain mute in the face of pervasive societal evil. We have a cultural mandate to be "salt" and "light," to preserve our rotting, decaying culture (as salt preserves food) and to shine our light (through our good deeds and by exposing evil, as per Ephesians 5;11). And to do that, we have to speak up and out, always "in love," but nonetheless boldly and uncompromisingly, which sinners often perceive as "hateful," no matter how charitable we may try to be. (It's the old "shoot the messenger" syndrome . . . )

Of who? Heterosexuals?

NOTHIN LOGICAL HERRE, IF YOU USE RELIGIOUS POINT OF VIEW ITS EMOTIONAL NOT LOGICAL.

***** Marriage was never a right, it was always a privilege. How it became a civil rights issue is beyond me. Obergefell decision was unconstitutional. Justice Roberts said it best when he asked Americans to celebrate "LOVE" but DO NOT celebrate the Constitution. SCOTUS and the courts have been making such mockery of the judicial system for a very long time now and it is more than evident when a ruling on same sex marriage was never in the legal interpretation of the Constitutional but rather a personal opinion based on personal beliefs. What's worst is SCOTUS actually UNDEFINED marriage which opened up a huge can of worms that the dissenting justices have forewarned. Sometimes you are given exactly what you want, only to find out that was exactly what you didn't need. Hopefully America will learn from this in the short chaotic months/years to come. www.nationalreview.com/article/420934/same-sex-marriage-and-rule-law?dzsJ5LmDmXWjSAlP.01

***** You are referring to the infamous Loving v. Virginia case which supposedly set the precedence for Obergefell decision. I encourage you to read the link I posted. The two cases are dramatically different in their respective core arguments. Additionally, I challenge you to cite where in Loving v. Virginia, it specifically states that the institution of marriage was ever turned over to the federal government until Obergefell. SCOTUS is a joke and shell of its former self. There is no more nonpartisan "justice is blind" judicial branch. Let me remind you that none of the SCOTUS justices are elected officials.

What kind of government are we building if that's not part of the government?

Kevin Boone I did not say sexual orientation was synonymous with promiscuity. I simply made the point that we could all use the same language that the gay community use to define themselves, to claim an identity in the things that we habitually do.

Triangle of the freemasons...perhaps. Imho...voddu is a hireling.

Yeah, Pastor Bauchman. Tell it like it is. Explain why slavery is just fine because the Bible says it is OK to own other humans as your property.

C Nault indentured servitude.

Kevin Boone you write all this to prove what exactly? What argument can you present ? Can you debunk everything dr Voddie said? LOL

"Dr. Baucham believes in notions about homosexuality which lack theological, historical and scientific context. " Until someone can prove their god exists, the theological context doesn't matter at all.

C Nault I agree with the first statement, but by faith alone many believe in the Christian God, for example. Furthermore since forever and a day humans have sought to understand space and time through a supernatural lens -- through African deities, animism and Hindu gods, for instance. And theological beliefs regarding homosexuality do matter because they have consequences.

@@kevinboone2178 "but by faith alone many believe in the Christian God" By faith a person could believe whatever they wish to believe. A person could have faith that leprechauns exist. "Furthermore since forever and a day humans have sought to understand space and time through a supernatural lens -- through African deities, animism and Hindu gods, for instance," And also through the god of the Bible. But you are mistaken. None of these ( including the Bible) are an attempt to understand it, all they are is assigning an unproven cause to the effect. "And theological beliefs regarding homosexuality do matter because they have consequences." Such beliefs only matter to the person holding the belief. To people who don't hold the belief, such beliefs are nonsense. And exactly what consequences are you talking about? Be specific.

@@sword6561I thought this thread was history, until out of nowhere I get another comment, then see yours. LOL. Elsewhere I've written a response to Voddie's (mostly) errant notions about the Bible and homosexuality. Maybe it would help you understand my comments, so here: When culture, tradition and religion negatively intersects with human dignity, our duty is to fix it, to seek justice. Using Bibles to excoriate LGBQT brethren is a vice centered in a reckless, literal interpretation of its "men sleeping with men" (MSWM), and related verses. Christians are called to follow Jesus, to imitate His life. It's important we know there is nothing in the Bible that speaks to LGBQT people per se, let alone ones in loving relationships, as the ancients had little understanding of them, gender, and the science of sexual orientation. The original Biblical "men sleeping with men" (MSWN), and related verses, are largely there, and interpreted, incorporating a serious misunderstanding of original intent. Reading the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) and New Testament in Ancient Biblical Hebrew, Classical Aramaic and, in the first translations of them, into Ancient Greek, the original languages, is paramount. But for ignorance, heterosexual sensibility, Christian arrogance and/or vanity, most theologians, ministers and lay people (and others) don't see the truth. What's important about those verses is CONTEXT, and without it, Christians "tell the truth while telling lies" (my quote). 1. "AN AX MURDER ISN'T ABOUT THE AX." MSWM, and related verses, speak specifically to heterosexual male behavior, for all the right reasons. There's a 'distinction with a difference' between homosexuality & homosexual, and, heterosexuality & heterosexual, each one, and it demonstrates, for example, why homosexuals often have children the "old-fashioned" way (heterosexuality), and imprisoned heterosexuals often sexually engage their sex (homosexuality). 2. By knowing the history of sexuality in Ancient Greece, the Ancient Near East, and the Ancient Roman World, the areas in which the anthology of Biblical stories take place, we'd know the Ancient Greek practice of adolescent male and heterosexual adult male love, "pederasty," was popular in its athletic, military and upper class sectors, while freeborn men in the vast Ancient Roman World often engaged in anal intercourse with lower rank boys and men -- slaves, gladiators, clowns and actors, for instance. Freeborn men could be put to death for being the receiver (bottom) in such situations, a penalty noted in the original Biblical documents. As important was the practice of homosexuality within the biblical cult of temple prostitution, and other cults, and in the biblical notion referencing "man's inhumanity to man," which includes references to "carnal knowledge," which means to "know"/"to rape" -- males vanquished by war or street fights, one's abused for being poor, strangers and/or travelers, for example. (And females were not immune to victimization.) 3. Women played a tangential role why many men engaged in homosexual activity. Ones in antiquity thought twice before sexually engaging husbands and boyfriends, as it could lead to pregnancy, which put them, and their babies, in mortal danger. Unlike today with advances in maternal/fetal medicine, and nutrition, women often died during pregnancy, giving birth or shortly thereafter. Likewise their babies often died in the womb, during birth, shortly thereafter, or before puberty. For the consequences, women thought hard before agreeing to sexual intercourse. Many men compensated by engaging their sex, perpetrating rape against them, frequenting male prostitutes, etc. (Heterosexual rape, prostitution and orgies occurred as well.) If males were sexually engaging their sex, the prophets surmised the human race would become extinct. 4. SODOM & GOMORRAH is about wrongs done to the poor, neighbors, travelers and other strangers in the Dead Sea area between what are now Jordan and Israel in the Middle East. But in the 12th century, after a pamphlet published by a pious Roman Catholic monk exposed rampant homosexuality between cardinals, bishops and priests in the Vatican and elsewhere, the pope was alarmed and chose to falsely teach that homosexuals were the foundation of that iconic Biblical story, making it part of its theology. Prior to the Protestant Reformation, the Roman Catholic Church was the premier Christian denomination. The original Hebrew Bible (Old Testament/OT) documents don't mention homosexuals, as it speaks to groups of people engaging in "CARNAL KNOWLEDGE" IE., RAPE (REGARDLESS THE SEX OR AGE OF THE VICTIM) AND OTHER INHOSPITABLE BEHAVIORS perpetrated against neighbors and strangers -- robbery, fighting, and refusing them food and shelter, for example. (Source: In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy by Frédéric Martel, 2019) In conclusion, there's no hard evidence the Christian God ever said anything about homosexuals, nor are women in the Bible as it relates to lesbianism. When you see such verses, men put them in, as they aren't in the original documents. Many will say they were "inspired by God" to add them, but some harbored political agendas -- including deadly ones, others made mistakes in translation, some used terms which had different meanings in another culture, or no word at all. Etc. Indeed the harsh Old English term "ABOMINATION" doesn't appear in the original Biblical documents. "Sheketz" and "tovah," Ancient Biblical Hebrew words meaning "taboo" were used, and which one depended on the context. Male homosexuality, wearing woolen clothing, adultery, fornication, eating shellfish and witchcraft are among the taboos, which were a way to help distinguish Ancient Israelites from the numerous religions, spiritual philosophies, and gods inherent to Biblical lands. Most hypocritically point fingers at homosexuals, though no human is without sin. ... AFRICAN HOMOSEXUALITIES -- Most Africans today have internalized the behavior of their former colonial Arab and European masters, who bought Islam and Christianity, respectively, to bear on what heretofore was an acceptance of transgenders and same-gender loving (SGL) individuals, forgetting religion is fine, except when it isn't. Within various African ethnic groups, the acceptance included: "cross-dressing in some societies; recognizing SGL members have the power of "two-spirits," ying & yang, male and female, a "double-consciousness" that could be used for counseling others, or settling disputes, for example; some ethnicities allowed marriage/some of these unions didn't involve sex for being more concerned with strengthening economic, family and/or clan ties, for instance; in some traditions bisexuality was common/in others bisexuality was common until marriage...and many of these unions endured regardless; other cultures treated the SGL phenomenon nonchalantly, like, "So what?" The Arabs and Europeans undermined those practices and extinguished the vibrancy of African cultures and traditions in general. It's time to we recover our memory. ... BOOK --- GAY, STRAIGHT, AND THE REASON WHY: The Science of Sexual Orientation, Second Edition (Oxford University Press, 2017), by neuroscientist Simon LeVay, explores the latest research on the topic in a style lay people can understand and includes a glossary and additional resources. Human evolution, genetics, epigenetics, timing and hormones largely determine inherent sexual orientation, all within the context of fetal development. ... You know my name. Say your name. And call theirs." I will not be a perpetrator. I will not be a bystander. With due respect.

just to discuss the marriage part ONLY, God invented marriage so y do they want it??

I'm an atheist. With that being said, I don't believe in a god. I respect all religions. I just think gays should have the right to marry in this country since it is a right that it granted to the majority of Americans.

thnx for ur opinion

+Ingui Jung For all the pro homosexual folks that would like to change God, His Word, his attributes etc...A small illustration if you will: whittle, whittle, whittle...Oh Hi, I didn't see you there. I was just whittling on some old wood creating an idol I'll call god. I have created this god of my own choosing with the attributes I like most, and think he should have. Please don't bother me with the real God, his attributes and all he has to say, It just interferes with my creative work....There, I'm not exactly done yet, But Isn't it groovy, this cool god I created, and I can change it like a Mr. Potato head anytime I want to suit my specific needs at any given moment. Well, I'm sorry I have go worship it now. Bye bye

+Ingui Jung For all the pro homosexual folks that would like to change God, His Word, his attributes etc...A small illustration if you will: whittle, whittle, whittle...Oh Hi, I didn't see you there. I was just whittling on some old wood creating an idol I'll call god. I have created this god of my own choosing with the attributes I like most, and think he should have. Please don't bother me with the real God, his attributes and all he has to say, It just interferes with my creative work....There, I'm not exactly done yet, But Isn't it groovy, this cool god I created, and I can change it like a Mr. Potato head anytime I want to suit my specific needs at any given moment. Well, I'm sorry I have go worship it now. Bye bye

How many slaves do you own? If you have none, why not? The Bible says it is OK.

You're too vague. Give me your scriptures and keep them in their context.

@@rorschach162 Keep them in their context? In what context do you think it would be moral to own another human being as your property?

@@cnault3244 Weak answer.

@@rorschach162 Weak answer to what? Try to post an entire sentence next time.

Sorry you didn’t just think this you typed it. My gosh

How often does that NOT occur? You raised the question you’re responsible for providing verifiable statistics

@@froggybug I'm just tired if self rightous people be they preachers or whoever. My God Loves everybody and understands everybody. I have a Personal Relationship with God. Besides I never said he was gay I pointed out the Fact that many are gay and really are self hating!!

+Jillian Kovac For all the pro homosexual folks that would like to change God, His Word, his attributes etc...A small illustration if you will: whittle, whittle, whittle...Oh Hi, I didn't see you there. I was just whittling on some old wood creating an idol I'll call god. I have created this god of my own choosing with the attributes I like most, and think he should have. Please don't bother me with the real God, his attributes and all he has to say, It just interferes with my creative work....There, I'm not exactly done yet, But Isn't it groovy, this cool god I created, and I can change it like a Mr. Potato head anytime I want to suit my specific needs at any given moment. Well, I'm sorry I have go worship it now. Bye bye

Do you think he chose to be black? Cause that’s the overriding comparison. Being gay is like being black. Do you believe that’s true? Do you believe Dr Voddie and I right before birth from our black parents....thought....”newborn self...I think I’ll be black.”

+Licarol Jones Hush, LJ. AIDS: You want percentages? It's too high for Black gay and straight folks. You want percentages: It's too high in straights folks in much of Africa. What's your point --- and why should we care? Human beings are not the sum of their diseases. A nasty, ignorant cuss with "no game" defines you. Sit down.

+Priscilla Tapia For all the pro homosexual folks that would like to change God, His Word, his attributes etc...A small illustration if you will: whittle, whittle, whittle...Oh Hi, I didn't see you there. I was just whittling on some old wood creating an idol I'll call god. I have created this god of my own choosing with the attributes I like most, and think he should have. Please don't bother me with the real God, his attributes and all he has to say, It just interferes with my creative work....There, I'm not exactly done yet, But Isn't it groovy, this cool god I created, and I can change it like a Mr. Potato head anytime I want to suit my specific needs at any given moment. Well, I'm sorry I have go worship it now. Bye bye

you can keep on using words like bigot all day to try and silence dissent but some bigotry is good. I am bigoted against ridiculous behavior.

We'd like to be your friend, but in order to do so you must change your values to fit ours specifically, you must admit that being physically attracted and wanting to have an intimate relationship with them should be a social norm. If you don't, then you are a bigot. In the meantime, we'll spread our propaganda to make romantic relationships with children a social norm all over the airwaves. You've got to accept the way we are because we were designed this way. See what I did there? What about the bakers in Oregon who were sued by a gay couple because they wouldn't bake a cake for them? Where were their rights when the gay couple targeted their heterosexual bakery when there were tons of others around? Where are our rights to believe that marriage should be between a man and woman? Oh right, it's stumped on, spat on, and grinded down the garbage disposal because 3% of the population felt the need to compel the rest of the nation that their cherished beliefs are rubbish and that the LBGT definition is the real and true one. This isn't a minor inconvenience. This is an assault on our senses on what is morally and for 80% of the world, religiously, wrong, AND 100% physiologically and anatomically WRONG.

what about death threats for simply speaking on what he believes?

+xYondaimexJD Who said anything about wanting to be your friend? You should be entitled to marry the consenting adult of your choice without interference by others. Children can't consent; if you don't believe that the state has a vested interest in preventing people of different races from marrying just because that offends some people's deep-seated religious principles, gay marriage operates by the same principle. That it bothers others is not enough to prevent the couple from their own pursuit of happiness.

+Lee Duon funny you are exactly the type of person that would condemn underage marriage of other countries such as the mideast or certain cultures. and yet you bring up consent here. shouldnt it be only about love as you lgbt hypocrites so love to say?

+xYondaimexJD Love is predicated on consent. Marriage, as a legal contract, most definitely is predicated on consent.