Tom, That was a great lesson for beginning collectors out there. Wish that you were around when I was a kid. Could have saved me a lot of money. I learned the hard way.

And this is one of the reasons I love your channel, Honesty!! When I first started collecting I bought no end of fake tat from mostly private sales, but also dealers who may or may not have known themselves. It's great to see dealers these days who are more concerned about the hobby than making a quick buck off of somebody's ignorance. Good on you sir!!

This M95 is stamped with a large S over the chamber which indicates that it has been rechambered for the 8x56 spitzer ammunition. It is not in 8x50 as you advertise on gunbroker. I have collected WW1 Steyr weapons for many years. I saw these when they first appeared, and it was obvious that they were faked. That said, I have seen a very few M95s with waffenamts that I thought might be authentic, but not these. Century brought large quantities of the M95's into the USA which sold for under $100 each

The SS contract K98 ya showed at 6:24 is in amazing shape i hope to find one just like it someday.

Back in 1972 when my brother and I were 14 & 15 years old we bought Czech made VZ 24 surplus Mauser's made in Brno CZ at a sporting goods store for $34 to go deer hunting with my uncle. They shot well but the bores were dark and pitted from the war. We never sporterized them, only steamed the dents in the stocks stained& oiled them them. All the proof mark swastika's were stamped over for import requirements as I was told at the time.Years later we were at a gun show and a vendor had a table with Mauser barrels, K 98's VZ 34's and others. I picked up one and sighted down the barrel and it was mirror bright the bluing was not even shot off the front. So we purchased 2 for $25 each and when we got then home upon closer inspection my brother found on the barrel I chose had the Waffen proof mark on the front of the sight ramp. I'd like to believe its genuine because the vendor did not know it was there, because if he did I'm sure he would of wanted more that $25.

In the 90s they were 50.00

First.... but cheated !

I am a reenactor. When I first began only original equipment was available. So much original equipment was worn out or destroyed by using it for reenacting. after a few years more and more uniforms and equipment became available and very soon it was all printed and stamped with original markings. After 30 or 40 years of reenacting so many of the reproductions now pass as original. Today I wouldn't buy anything that someone said was original

The one dislike is the owner lol

You can find waffen amp steel stamps listed on ebay for sale. Only purpose they have is to make fake items. Complained to eBay a number of times but they don't de anything

The best advice I was given when I first started collecting was always smell the item , the fake guys cant reproduce that old smell om leather , cloth or paper .

Lunch and a new LC video beautiful combo

Thanks for the knowledge , Sir !!!!!!!!!!!!

Excellent channel !!! New subscriber

I have a mannlicher carbine just like that, but it doesn't have the Germans swastikas on it. But it is just as good a shape.The Germans did use these rifles during World War II though. The Germans called them ruck zuck which means jerk back.

Pretty good video, Enjoyed it, I worked at a large gun shop in the 1980's and they had a large collection of proof stamps for wood and metal from most every were. All most Any time a seller/collector tells you How authentic only His item is ,Run.

I have seen M95 rifles in Walnut and Elm stocks. Your rifle appears to be in a beech stock. I could be wrong but that seems unusual for the time period. Repro stock?

Love the vids, thanks! You’re right on with the smell. It helps to authenticate WWII clothing as well!🍸

Used to have large collection of P38 pistols and holsters had two instances where people had a nice rig but had stamped serial in clip

Stitch direction is opposite also.

The number 4 at 2:28, looks like a smaller size compared to the other numbers...

Got it. When I try to swindle people, just make sure to do a bad job. Thanks for the tip!

I’ve been trying to track down the history of an inherited Mauser 98 with one of the markings described here. It’s been in my family at least 70 years if not longer. I’d love to ask you a few questions as you seem very knowledgeable on the subject and my internet research is not turning by up much. Watching this video really helped. Would you be willing for me to email you with some pictures? Or if not could you point me in the direction of a good resource? Thanks for your time.

Hello. I'm very much enjoying your series of videos that I found only a couple days ago. A couple years back, I saw a 7.65 Ortgies at a show, priced at around $700 because it was Waffen marked. I often see these pistols for under $300, and thought this was a red-flag, as Ortgies production ended in the mid 1920s. What do you think?

OMG I want that kind of rifle!! How much does a Steyr 1895 go for, and is it considered an antique?

i was told that the person doing the stamping would not have put so many stamps on the rifle that i see on that rifle

The shaft also does not fit an M95 looks different and part with folding bayonet!

I have the same gun, in much worse than this one. Its led a pretty rough life. However it DOES have the "eagle" on the receiver ring. It is obviously older. I got this around 1985, from directly from an importer. The research I did seems to verify it was a carbine intended for SS use.

I've had to use a jewelers' loop to define a Nazi proof.

I have one of those, the only thing that had nazi stamps were the clips and the ammo that came with it. The ones on the clips are extremely worn down but the ammo has them super clear

Looks too good!

you could but these waffen proof stamped of Ebay a few years back

How do people fake those stamps on the metal; i could imagine that would be tough to do?

Picture at 5:32 shows Bundeswehr soldier from the sixties...

When in doubt. Do without!

Thank you Tom!!!

what happens when eventually the good fakes actualy age?

I have one (not Nazi marked) it's nice gun but hell to shoot! Mine isn't that nice looking, a bit beat up, I bought it from J&G Sales years ago for about $90.00 (plus shipping).The 8X56r round kicks like a angry mule on crack!

At time rifles were imported, quantities of ammunition were imported, 8x56Rmm Steyer, in boxes of 10 rounds, each 5 rounds in clips. Boxes were make and both Imperial Austrian mark and NAZI proof on boxes after Austria annexed. This is 80 + year old ammunition, in relatively large quantities, and these boxes are authentic, not faked. In mid 1930 almost all the M95 in Austrian stock were arsenal rebuilt by conversion to superior 8x56R cartridge, hence the "S" over chamber, shortened to carbine length and many went into storage. Police units occasionally seen in photos with these and a picture of a liberated concentration camp victim holding one on his former guard also has been seen. These rifles were NOT popular with those to whom issued. Firing it once will explain why. Very brutal recoil, in part due to stock design and points of balance. I have fired the WW1 era Steyrs in 8x50R with longer barrels and recoil tolerable compared to these. As far as the stamping's authenticity, it is plausible that after Austria annexed, NAZIs did mark them. Someone with true knowledge of Austrian and Balkan military history and who knows firearms would best be able to judge authenticity on NAZI stamp rather that opinions of Fudds. As far as condition, in 90s when these came in, they were $80 guns, with 10 round boxes of ammo around $2/box, and most around were in the arsenal reconditioned state of yours, seemingly unfired since 1930s. Considering what else came in in that era such as M95 converted to 8x57mm by Yugoslavia and a bunch of raggedy M44 and M48 Yugo made '98 Mauser style rifles, I suspect importer got them somewhere in Balkans before UN troop had a chance to destroy them, which was their goal at time. Reconditioned, forgotten for decades, never issued, that's more likely story of your Steyr. True, serious, military collectors know these Steyrs and where they fit in to the general Steyr history. I guess you can ask $10,000 for a Lorcin, and maybe if that particular one could be tied to a particularly famous event or person someone will pay that. (Just look what some art collector payed for a banana duct taped to a wall.) But reality no one likely will give you that much for a Lorcin. Likewise, these reconditioned Steyrs MOVE at $175 to $300 range, they're not actually that rare, ammunition currently almost impossible to find, and while people put a $600.00 price, they just don't move at that number. And unless part of Hitler's testicle is still on an M95, no one will give you $2,000. (Austrian Corporal Hitler was injured, in certain areas in WW1 incase you don't understand reference.) Trivia: Case head of 8x50R and 8x56R is very close to .303 British. In countries like India where civilian arms in military calibers forbidden, occasionally SMLE commercially rechambered in 8x50R will be encountered and that caliber supposedly still being made for that market. Sellers in US or Canada will often give exotic and fanciful story of how UK was helping re-arm Austria or of British commandos had them 'specially made' for 'secret missions' where they could access local caliber. (Considering Austrian ungraded to 8x56R by WW2 this silly explanation)

No one talking about the simple fact that this rifle is older than the nazi-era? If a swastika is on your m95 it is obviously fake. Thank you. Sincerely a legit and proud M95 owner from austria

Isn't that a shortened M95 long rifle converted after WW1? When these were available cheap 20 years ago, they were also selling supposed "Nazi" marked ammo in the original Austrian caliber.

I have an m95 stutzen. Love taking it to the range. A bit expensive to shoot 8x56r isnt inexpensive. Mine doesnt look that nice at all, mine has seen a few miles. Even reloading for it. Not going.to lie a faked gun like this would make an interesting conversation piece. Although I do need an m95 bayonet.

Ah! those naughty Nazi 90's...

My local shop has a K98 in and they sent me a message to ask me about pricing. It's a laughable fake. It has the date stamp on the receiver and then they've scrubbed the makers mark and stamped '1940' over it lol. 3 waffens on the barrel, all clearly new stamps.

There are Stayer M95 with WW2 stamp, but this M95 is real but the stamps are not fake. The only real ones are the little ones on the chamber all other fakes

The gun i get from my father and he get it from his grandfather! Talk about the m95. And now i had to gave it the EU !!

Yeah I don't know. Those proofs on the wooden stock look a little too good to be true to me. Who knows. Maybe.

The WSS were better equipped with standard German weapons than the army, and not only that the had higher equipment levels, against regulations than army formations. They also enforced hidden production in factories (Steyr itself for example, the SS ran an extra enforced 8 hour shift) Your P38 holster, sadly is stamped by Helmut W, a dealer in Germany in the 1990's who stamped absolutely everything , always in the same typeface and size. Sorry.

I got the same gun with fake or real nazi markings for 350. I didnt care if it was a real nazi gun i just wanted a M95 in good condition

I have been trying to find a truly matching NAZI K98 example for a long time. Most sellers either lie about it being "all matching", they are forgeries, or the sellers simply dont know what they have

Father of Waffen is Paul Hauser

I have a legit Nazi-marked Steyr M95/30 Stutzen. 1938-date Austrian rebarrel, it has a tiny HZa eagle marking on the wrist.

Interesting. I have the same Steyr 1898 in . 22. deactivated. No Nazi stamps of cause. On the one He has with the fake Nazi - stamps we can clearly see the hole in behind the trigger guard for the . 22 mag like my one has as well. But my one has the same action like a K 98 ... No straight pull.

It looks like the waylon eagle

First one rifle is false. Reason barrel only one stamped. Also notice Eagle head left but other side eagle head right. Object is false. I have been studied miltary history books. As always check as picture as make sure careful.

M95 was the rifle of the bulgarian army in the WW II ...

Too many proofs on the barrel.

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I thought nazis were in ww2...

The fact that you didnt know that this was a strat pull rifle , rases a red flag for me , these rifles ae very commion not as common as they where back in the 1990 as importers stocks are long gone , but are still a common surplus rifle you find n pawn shopes and such . most all the carbines will have some kind of german pruff as they where much used by police units and other such durring WW2 , back in the 1990s lots of old german head stamped amo was floating around for these but is hard to find now ,

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I always wanted a m95 strait pull. When I was first learning how to hand engrave I took my dad's K98k and engraved a circle and slash over every waffenampt on the thing. When my dad saw it he laughed so hard I thought he was gonna bust a blood vessel. He said he was wondering when I would get around to doing that. My brother still takes elk with it and the occasional bear. Damn I want a Steyr 95.

Why? Why ruin a nice rifle with a lie?

$50 for a lovely bit of shaped and themed leatherwork is theft! Maybe it was made in China, then had a free trip to the US, then got advertised/sold at gun show( in flash packaging) and it fits your weapon, what is there to complain about? You would pay more at a decent toy shop for a holster for your cowboy sixgun! What? Never played cowboys and Indians?

Fake

Ridiculously fake....