Gorgeous rifle with unique fuctions, features, and rarity. I hope if finds a good home. Only issue is having to go to a gunsmith to figure out the ammo.
@gunfuego8 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite of the toggle locks I've seen on Forgotten Weapons. Not to mention the finnish and the stocks grain.
@cwbeas8 жыл бұрын
love toggles! More Toggles! Thanks Ian
@enby_kensei8 жыл бұрын
Man, if only I could find full photos of this thing. One of the most beautiful mechanisms I have ever seen on a semi-auto rifle.
@ProfessionalNoodler8 жыл бұрын
That rifle has really sexy lines, what a neat operating system.
@blitzkriegatx45838 жыл бұрын
Beautiful rifle, and nifty action.
@chesterchow18 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some high speed footage of this action
@Ctulhu9118 жыл бұрын
So many toggle action guns on this months, really like this mechanical joints.
@MrHalonoob1178 жыл бұрын
Is your profile pic who I think it is?
@Ctulhu9118 жыл бұрын
It's our Lord and Saviour, Ian! vk.com/alexanderrudel?z=photo262972361_412560657%2Falbum262972361_00%2Frev
@DonJohn87_YT8 жыл бұрын
+GunJesus xD
@henrypoopenstein8 жыл бұрын
+GunJesus Lmao the fact that its a pederson rifle he's holding is amazing. Ian really has a hard on for all pedersons haha!
@meyrolcs40777 жыл бұрын
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@miwove8 жыл бұрын
This rifle is realy cool and unique.
@uppishcub16174 жыл бұрын
I love the toggle lock action, its very unique and interesting
@felixred32618 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best collectible sporting rifle I have ever seen form the era. And I don't say that lightly.
@Spearfisher19708 жыл бұрын
Satisfying action on that rifle. Just neat to see it. TY!
@hilltop48478 жыл бұрын
before i started watching your video's I thought for a semi-auto rifle you either had "direct impingement," some sort of piston, or roller-delay type action. You've really opened my eyes, thanks Ian!
@jonr6208 жыл бұрын
Zee Chermans never cease to amaze me. Very cool concept, and quite fitting that Walther manufactured it.
@98karlh8 жыл бұрын
that is just a lovely mechanism. As usual video is of great quality, thank you !
@nilodrallub78128 жыл бұрын
That is about the coolest looking action I have ever seen ! Thanks !
@marzcorp8 жыл бұрын
Having a semi-auto rifle seems a bit pointless if it only has a 3-round magazine, but I guess they wanted it to sit flush. I imagine the military trials version would have had a much larger magazine.
@ThatGuy-a488 жыл бұрын
Yea like 8 or 10
@revueltas28jr8 жыл бұрын
its a very interesting rifle,with a magnificent design
@ml.27707 ай бұрын
This is the coolest rifle I've ever seen.
@davidstegman81478 жыл бұрын
Cool rifle and thanks Ian.
@thetriode8 жыл бұрын
I love the simplicity of the action overall. It's certainly elegant in its own regard.
@DanielSvensson6668 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, Iove learning about these unique guns.:D
@Candesce8 жыл бұрын
Wow, I really like it. I wonder if anyone makes modern actions like this. That muzzle "brake" action is very unique.
@elpoderdelasgalaxias7 жыл бұрын
What a gorgeous piece of machinery.
@nfsfanAndrew8 жыл бұрын
thats really neat. never seen anything like that. very good looking rifle
@aspyromilios8 жыл бұрын
toggle orgasm right now, this rifle is insane! The operating principle is not that complex, yet the designer still managed to make it very complicated and interesting
@JohnLeePedimore8 жыл бұрын
Perhaps one of the factors in these guns not becoming widely manufactured was the fact that they developed most of them around the time of the Great Depression(1929-1939).The Great Depression is often seen as an American economic disaster but it really effected the whole world.Especially industrial countries that relied heavily on exportation.
@Lukegriz778 жыл бұрын
Ian sure does love his toggle lock rifles
@jamesmallone47428 жыл бұрын
that is such a beautiful gun
@bitfreakazoid8 жыл бұрын
That is one beautiful rifle, and I love how it's action works and looks. Very aesthetically pleasing. And idea on what gives the bolt that purplish color?
@JTD198813698 жыл бұрын
case hardened i believe. you can get steel to be an amazing blue colour if you get the temp just right.. check out a channel called ClickSpring he shows you how
@ollythebest948 жыл бұрын
This action is so cool!
@thothtrismegistus4865 Жыл бұрын
I love the mechanics of these older semiautomatic firearms, mainly pistols. But when a rifle has something unusual or unique im all in! I'd own this rifle if I had the money lol
@Almightyrastus8 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous rifle, Walther do make some pretty stuff. Would love to see a good nosey around a WA2000 at some point.
@swayingGrass7 ай бұрын
Seems like a much more sensible blow-forward gun compared to the other ratcheting Rube Goldberg contraptions. I would even say it's elegant! Since it's a toggle-lock, the actuating motion to break the knee can be of any direction as long as there's a perpendicular force acting on it.
@Ctulhu9118 жыл бұрын
More of this neat toggle guns!
@miguelangelsimonfernandez54988 жыл бұрын
Nifty mechanism
@Halinspark8 жыл бұрын
That looks fun to operate left-handed.
@wastedangelematis8 жыл бұрын
Ian looks busy..... so many reviews on so many weapons.... well least no fair use notification problems, many other youtubers have still problems with that and youtube seems lost on the subject. XD keep it up !
@berhorst598 жыл бұрын
possibly a 9x57 mauser or 9.3x57. those had bullet weights near the proofing, and were sporting cartridges
@HillbillyHades8 жыл бұрын
The toggle action caught me off guard. I thought this was gonna be like a G41 at first.
@jackaction52478 жыл бұрын
Interesting design of the rifle
@roryvazley64378 жыл бұрын
I love that the toggle lock is on the side
@rentAscout8 жыл бұрын
Rock Island must love Ian's "free" marketing. I wonder if it effects the final auction price having something like 50k views on this page.
@StenCheesemonger8 жыл бұрын
Walther guns are just elegant, plain and simple.
@steedandersen8 жыл бұрын
Teutonic engineer in me = Geeked. Big Bore Lover in me = Geeked. Old world craftsmanship,styling in a futuristic (back then) design. Would love to have a rifle like that.
@longboi85406 жыл бұрын
It's a shame there aren't many rifles like this left.
@Anceleron7 жыл бұрын
Wow this is the only video I can find on this rifle. At least on yt
@jamesdonaldson-webster60798 жыл бұрын
Could it possibly be chambered in 10.3x60R Swiss?
@jamesdonaldson-webster60798 жыл бұрын
+wood1155 From what I know / can find. The cartridge is almost identical in size and performance to 450/400 23/8" The bullet weight can range anywhere from 180 - 400 grains but 185-250 is most common. it has a bore size of about 10.3mm but the grove size is closer to 10.7 (so near .400"). Although the cartridge has all but been obsolete for a century, it is still in use in a few isolated areas the foremost being the Swiss canton of Grisons where it is the mandatory calibre for all hunting - hence it is still chambered by european companies such as Blaser and ammunition offered by the likes of RWS(185 Gr expanding cone point @ 2935 fps)
@tiortedrootsky4 жыл бұрын
SO cool!
@merlemorrison4828 жыл бұрын
My best guess would be a 10.3x57 Mauser. Second guess would be a 10.75x57 Mauser, but that is less likely as a nominal 350 gr bullet was used. A chamber cast would be required to be certain, but I suspect that isn't going to happen.
@iclimbeverything29906 жыл бұрын
Damn that's one smart mechanism
@Dliont7 жыл бұрын
Very beaytiful gun !!!!!
@larskunoandersen2828 жыл бұрын
what a wonderful rifle. realy cool. i tought p08 too-
@AnimeSunglasses8 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful gun! Ian, do you know why toggle-locked arms never caught on, beyond the Luger? They seem to me an excellent way to build a gun.
@acidwizzardbastard5 жыл бұрын
A two-year late response which isn't from Ian: Cost. Toggle locked arms are expensive and need much more precise machining.
@Punisher94198 жыл бұрын
That is so cool.
@Moondog666028 жыл бұрын
ian you've probably heard this a lot, but a stoner 63 video(preferably a long one) would be amazing.
@azkrouzreimertz97848 жыл бұрын
this is probably the sexiest rifle i have seen for a long time.
@tsclly23777 ай бұрын
reminds me of a Browning lever action (that could be adapted to this type of toggle action, but with an internal toggle that forbids a lefty shooter).
@canidsong8 жыл бұрын
Having an op-rod that pulls in tension instead of pushing in compression seems a good deal smarter, all other considerations of operation aside. Have there ever been gas piston arms with enclosed pistons that stroke forward instead of back? I'd imagine fouling of the muzzle device to be the major liability here, or at least a real concern.
@VegasCyclingFreak8 жыл бұрын
This one is very interesting indeed.
@Burningnewt8 жыл бұрын
will we ever see a flame thrower on the show?
@ForgottenWeapons8 жыл бұрын
+Sam Guglin Funny you should ask; I just spent yesterday filming some flamethrower shooting.
@RockIslandAuctionCompany8 жыл бұрын
+AlexanderSuperTramp WILL I EVER GET A PONY???
@RockIslandAuctionCompany8 жыл бұрын
+mallory1970 I sense a trade pending.
@RockIslandAuctionCompany8 жыл бұрын
+AlexanderSuperTramp As I am not a member of 19th Century European aristocracy, the pony shall remain safe.
@rekabneb8 жыл бұрын
+Sam Guglin send in some ghost peppers
@xdassinx8 жыл бұрын
Except for the back end of the action, it’s a very attractive rifle.
@SomeGuyInSandy8 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes! As a left handed shooter, that bolt would be an eye opener... Or, in the worst case, and eye closer, lol!
@fuzzydunlop79287 жыл бұрын
This rifle is fucking beautiful.
@mytmousemalibu8 жыл бұрын
Damn that is cool!
@dngn95228 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@AlexBobowski8 жыл бұрын
"It's a little less expensive" Estimated price: $35,000 to $60,000 Yeah, I'll jump right on that. Really cool video and firearm though, it looks like a slick system for an early semi-auto rifle.
@TheBitwise8 жыл бұрын
It sounds almost as if there are two different microphones picking up sound in this recording. Anyone else notice that?
@glockerbob8 жыл бұрын
Kind of a gas trap Grand Luger hybrid. Very cool but looks like recoil impulse would be funny feeling toggling to the side but who knows.
@j.mangum76528 жыл бұрын
Ian, please do a show of a European sporter rifle with double-set triggers or point me to a previous video. I feel that setting trigger systems just don't get enough attention as they are very wonderful as aids of accuracy. Your vids are auto-liked without regret every time! : )
@strawman53007 жыл бұрын
I just love togle lock guns
@diktatoralexander888 жыл бұрын
It looks like you're showing the rifle you shot those two deer with.
@rickkern54598 жыл бұрын
I realize the design was not overly successful, but that is a beautiful action @.@
@ooloncaluphid8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if residual gas pressure in the barrel is meant to play a role in cycling the action after the toggle knee is bent.
@Carbon7628 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, a gas operated gun not susceptible to carrier tilt. I like it.
@LionSilverVideos8 жыл бұрын
Camera angle is alittle high... Love your videos.
@sikckaputten4 жыл бұрын
St.m.G stands for "Stahlmantelgeschoss", which is indeed the German word for "full metal jacket".
@Birb_of_Judge3 жыл бұрын
Steel jacketed bullet would be a better translation. Because regular Full metal jacket bullets have copper jackets
@jolujo58426 жыл бұрын
There must be some way to gauge the chamber to determine the proper cartridge dimensions!
@mattmellinger72348 жыл бұрын
Have you ever reviewed a Browning Recoiless? Relatively modern (~20 years ago) design but flawed and obsolete now. would love to see you review one.
@Pprokop878 жыл бұрын
one cool gun. i wonder what happened to the project, most of the sporting rifles are 2-stroke manual operating.
@crazyfvck8 жыл бұрын
That's just freakin cool :)
@oranjid8 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, first of all thanks for the interesting clip & sharing this nice rifle with us One question came up: i never knew of a Swiss Rheinmetall company. From all that i know Rheinmetall is a german manufacturer, and always has been (located in Duesseldorf with their first production site in 1889) I heared they have bought Solothurn AG (swiss manufacturer) after world war one, or at least sharings of the company - so they would be able to get around the versailles treaty and continue development of small arms at that time. Karl Heinemann was a german engineer for Rheinmetall. Do you have more details about any swiss involvement in this rifle? Keep up the good work :)
@ForgottenWeapons8 жыл бұрын
+ranji kawanji Here's a good overview: www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=1973
@oranjid8 жыл бұрын
+Forgotten Weapons thank´s a real lot for the link - seems to confirm my information :) That page explains indeed pretty detailed how german Rheinmetall company used Solothurn in switzerland for their plans to develop weapons like self-loaders and machineguns. Interesting to figure out how busy german arms development was in secrecy after ww1, still during the "Weimarer Republik". Some interesting history aspects there behind this gun - similar to the mg34.
@TheDeathlord218 жыл бұрын
Rheinmetall is a german company located in Düsseldorf, Nordrhein-Westfalen. They are manufacturing the cannon-barrel of the german "Leopard-2" Tank. Definitely not a swiss company ;)
@DanielSvensson6668 жыл бұрын
Yes, but they have production in several countries including Switzerland, so this is made in Switzerland by a German based company with production ther. Kinda like Apple is a US company with production in China.:)
@tillmannfischer8 жыл бұрын
+TheDeathlord21 The Treaty of Versailles prohibited the development and production of military self-loading rifles in Germany at the time. The weapon was made in Switzerland (which is exactly what Ian said) to circumvent that little detail.
@udowillkomm11738 жыл бұрын
Rheinmetall is basically a German company. Top location is Düsseldorf. Maybe, they had in the ´20s a location in Switzerland.
@tillmannfischer8 жыл бұрын
+Udo Willkomm You may want to get your history book ready, there was that little detail called "Treaty of Versailles" that restricted weapons development and production for the military in Germany between WWI and WWII...
@crunchysuperman8 жыл бұрын
That's gotta have a really strange recoil impulse.
@dvfd18748 жыл бұрын
Bet that would be scary as hell to shoot for us leftyys Ian
@justaguitardude8 жыл бұрын
the quality is nice. i guess this bleed over to there airguns as they produce some high end very accurate air guns..
@QuantumCat768 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that action in slow motion
@andrewince88245 жыл бұрын
I reckon it was conceived to be a boar or deer rifle. Pretty hefty round, a few follow ups in the mag. Seems plausible.
@dgoodman1484 Жыл бұрын
I would have guessed a 40 caliber rifle in the 30’s would have ment one thing, Afrika. Depending on the powder charge it may have been just the thing for lion or buff.
@TheMrboder8 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian! I was wondering if you hunt? If you do which kind of rifle do you prefer?
@thelaughinghyenas79628 жыл бұрын
Ian, That mechanism kind of looks like the Japanese Trials Gas-Operated Pedersen Rifle that you did a video on earlier this month. Both are toggle locked with the "op rod" going forward. Do you think there was any relationship?
@ChristianMcAngus8 жыл бұрын
+The Laughing Hyenas I was thinking that myself. I doubt there is any relationship, just a similar solution to a common problem.
@thelaughinghyenas79628 жыл бұрын
ChristophInns , I am wondering. If I were a Japanese project manager and I had to design a rifle one of the first things I would do is get every advertisement for any existing rifle of similar specifications. Did the guy get catalogs?
@Misterturkes8 жыл бұрын
Quick question Ian. Do you find buyers using your videos to inform their bids? Or are they more knowledgeable about the weapons than even yourself?
@iotaje18 жыл бұрын
The toggle cover is an interesting idea, and the toggle unlocker is much simpler than a Pedersen's. Wouldn't this kind of system be very sensitive to dirt or mud in the front of the rifle though?
@viswasubramanian4738 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@KarlBunker8 жыл бұрын
That seems like it would be a super-reliable mechanism. Any thoughts on why it wasn't more successful?
@kimjanek6468 жыл бұрын
+KarlBunker too expensive to make maybe? *shrug*
@Guy_GuyGuy8 жыл бұрын
+KarlBunker Well for one, the "Bang" gas system is not a very good gas system, designers would try it later on the Gewehr 41 and M1 Garand and found how quickly fouled it got. Not super-reliable at all.
@Schmidt548 жыл бұрын
I would call it the German Rheinmetall company, because of the military limitations of the Versailles treaty after WW1 they used loopholes in Germany to work on guns, hence using a third party country to work in since it technically did not violate the limitations of the treaty. Not unlike tax loopholes in these days. :D Also St.m.G. probably means "Stahlmantelgeschoss", aka full metal (steel) jacket.
@hernerweisenberg70528 жыл бұрын
hi, as far as i know, rheinmetall is a german company, wich, in order to work around the versailles treaty, bought a swiss arms manufactur company called Solothrunes AG. i dont know if thats related to this gun, but i never heard about a swiss rheinmetall.
@tillmannfischer8 жыл бұрын
+Werner Heisenberg Rheinmetall-Borsig openly used the capacities of the Waffenfabrik Soluthurn to produce weapons they couldn't develop and manufacture in Germany. These were mostly export weapons, but some weapons production was done directly under the Rheinmetall-Borsig label and relatively openly so, in spite of the violation of the treaty.
@Metalgearmadness8 жыл бұрын
could you slug the bore and see if you can figure out what cartridge it fires
@piRaufasertapete8 жыл бұрын
5:03 now I can use what I learned in mechanics at University
@therealinak6 жыл бұрын
Not a lot of cartridges in that diameter. Fewer were commonly jacketed. 10.75X57 Mannlicher is all I can find, so probably a likely candidate?
@myramadd66518 жыл бұрын
Interesting design, but being left handed, I'd worry that toggle would hit me in the face.