I would rather have new maps and game mods, over playing mbt point-blank shootout simulator. Large bulk of current maps was designed around 7.7 br bracket vehicles.
@Loplyful4 ай бұрын
Agreed, they need to implement a Ground RB without CAS. That would bring in ALOT of more players.
@Sheir014 ай бұрын
I would like new maps except gaijin map designers are always on a schizo high.
@Berilaco4 ай бұрын
Why the hell does the range scale on the scope even go to 6km??? When its mostly
@christian9125abd4 ай бұрын
@@Berilaco i basically never use range finder as mostly it is unnecessary at the maps...
@RealOny4 ай бұрын
@@Loplyful just spawn spaa LOL
@BARelement4 ай бұрын
I think the T30 (WW2 designed American Heavy Tank) actually had a 155mm APFSDS then called at the time “Fin-Missile” 💀. King tigers would crumple…
@user-sg9ql8nk1u4 ай бұрын
t30 is post ww2-
@FlatBread14 ай бұрын
@@user-sg9ql8nk1uIndeed, but it was started DURING ww2
@BARelement4 ай бұрын
@@user-sg9ql8nk1u Is it not a “WW2 design” as I originally said? Before even editing it… Like, reading is fundamental, your generation failed at such…
@BARelement4 ай бұрын
@@FlatBread1 That’s my thing, I clearly had “designed” before I even edited my comment. I edited it because it had “flint” instead of “fin”. I’m tired of me having to suffer the consequences because others cannot READ. Ugh, ANNOYING ASF. Everyone wants to have such a moment they jump on everything.
@user-sg9ql8nk1u4 ай бұрын
@@BARelement mf u said ww2 american heavy tank not ww2 *designed* american heavy tank,that shit only appear after ww2 how would i know ffs
@Mykaoff4 ай бұрын
Listened to it while showering, interesting to a 3.3 player
@SteelxWolf4 ай бұрын
Bro hit the nail on the head once again. Another issue with darts is the richochet. People still getting lucky on a whiffed UFP shot because it bounces into the bottom of the turret ring just shouldn’t happen. Darts rigidity needs to be considered. Those darts should be wobbling and snap, losing a considerable amount of penetration
@christopherchartier30174 ай бұрын
“Bro hit the Dart on the Composite” 💀
@SteelxWolf4 ай бұрын
@@christopherchartier3017 nah gulag this man
@Kwisss4 ай бұрын
Unless its early Soviet ones (fat ones fired by the 100 mm / 115 mm) all modern long rod APFSDS should shatter when ricocheting. The midsection of the rod is weakest to shearing.
@chost-0594 ай бұрын
also in general that applies to all AP rounds in one scale or the other, if you look at physics simulations youl quickly notice that basically all AP rounds lose their form/composition quickly while trying to dig into the armour with high tier apfsds rounds hitting something at an extreme angle should absolutely not cause it to bounce off but rather disindigrate aka shatter on impact with older full size AP rounds they also shouldnt just bounce from high angle plate like they currently do, but rather lose a significant amount of penetrating power due to deformation etc and then bounce off also i highly doubt warthunders representation of overmatching is at all realistic, a lot of the time light tanks and other thinly armoured but highly angled (bmp1 etc) can bounce full size 90-122mm etc rounds which simply shouldnt be possible due to overmatch in any case
@Thebaconmurderer4 ай бұрын
@@chost-059 In regards to the last paragraph. It just depends on what round you're shooting at some of these light tanks APHE, APC, or even APCBC will of course over match, but a 90-120mm APFSDS round will of course fall into a smaller round its self due to he discarding sabot portion. The majority loose roughly 80% of their original width which would remove the overmatching feature.
@youseffx16614 ай бұрын
you forget that darts most of the time realistically dont ricochet
@illegalaryan8234 ай бұрын
The Abrams looking less fucked up IRL in that case. Giant shoot me here shot trap gimps it hard in WT. I dont even play USA but the bruhms is bad.
@user-jc2in3cp3g4 ай бұрын
@@illegalaryan823actually Abrams ufp over-performs by bouncing rounds it shouldnt but the turret ring thing screws it up. Gaijin could just make the turret ring thicker and it’d fix the Abrams
@undulato4 ай бұрын
@@illegalaryan823 the abrams is good
@illegalaryan8234 ай бұрын
Not in warthunder, not compared with the T80 and Leo2, its an easy kill with no error, no what the fuck moments like with the T80s ERA eating shots or the Leo2 bouncing with turret wiggles @@undulato
@undulato4 ай бұрын
@@illegalaryan823 its good if the player is good, good thermals, second best shell at toptier, 5 second reload, still somewhat survivable, really good mobility, really sounds like a skill issue if your bad in it
@a..c..24694 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite of yours so far, I was just discussing the whole fin round yesterday , very informative 👍
@mastermidir4 ай бұрын
I do think it's more of armor being modeled extremely poorly rather than the projectile itself, its a little weird, at least to me, to blame the projectile first rather than assume armor isn't the problem.
@MsArchitectschannel4 ай бұрын
Because it is what the rounds do AFTER the armour is what is the problem, not the armour. a 25mm dart does more damage than a full sized 75mm shell AFTER the armour in warthunder, which is just stupid.
@alkatraz95144 ай бұрын
projectile is definetly poorly modeled though
@cannack4 ай бұрын
@@alkatraz9514 both are poorly modelled if you ask me like how a 2s38 can swallow a 105mm dart to its breach like a bird eating a worm, only damaging a periscope, or 5x 40mm darts point blank just lightly damaging a tanks barrel just doesn't clash well with my perception of physics. APFSDS to the face of ANY helicopter should kill it outright, I don't understand how you can fire, and terminally guide a hellfire after a solid tungsten dart goes from the nose through the gunner, pilot, transmission out past the tail and kills you, yet they still end up killing me post-death.... as if their EOIR sensor can run, and guide a weapon with everything in the back compartments being in 1000 smoldering pieces. Or my favorite, smack a t-series broadside with APFSDS, just to watch it travel though the entire carousel, melt the ammo, but doesn`t cook off and just turns to blast me in the face.... like wtf? ``consistently; inconsistent`` sums up this game pretty well.
@chost-0594 ай бұрын
the ability to "bounce" should just flat out be removed and replaced with the "shell shattered" function for 90% of the APFSDS rounds, modern APFSDS rounds shatter on impact with high angles or penetrate, they do not richochet like full size rounds. this would also fix things like the abrams upper plate acting as a huge shot trap
@johndoe54404 ай бұрын
I hope internal fires will also account for the pyrophoric effects of rounds like the M829 or 3bm series
@PanzerSteinn4 ай бұрын
Recently a lot of good WT channels started to appear, and this is on of them Keep up your content 🔥👋
@abdellahiehreimo34024 ай бұрын
Good analysis 👍
@G0dzilla9713 ай бұрын
most modern tanks will come with built in fire extinguishers making internal fire not a good idea while shell shock is a good idea
@user-xh8yh9td7o4 ай бұрын
At the moment the leopard 2a7 and the strv 122 B+are basically broken, better cannonball and you can basically shoot 3-4 shots at critical places and they don't die, compared to the same abrams which is easier to eliminate, the Russian tanks almost don't They can withstand shots, even with spall liners
@Jon_67474 ай бұрын
the abrams is the most survivable tank at top tier. the Leopards only tank more shots because of their spall liners
@killthemall554 ай бұрын
I used to be a top tier main. But update that released BVM broke the spalling. When that update released, i would shoot leos center mass in the hull and there would be no spalling at all at random times. On top of that, since then we got hunter killer, spall liners, volumetric, fuel tank, black ammo, breech and barrel make darts disappear and many other things that made top tier incredibly RNG y and frustrating. When i flank and see a tank, i really dont know if would get the kill or get killed.
@kaiser999wt4 ай бұрын
when air superiority came out spalling was broken for a bit and then shortly fixed
@shadowrxmpxge89054 ай бұрын
Both of these comments are very true especially with the ifv spam these matches usually have these darts need to be reworked
@RealOny4 ай бұрын
I just really wished Gaijin would fix the annoying bug where dart ricochets get eaten by optics or turret rings which is obviously not realistic or fun to deal with
@asiftalpur37584 ай бұрын
finally a subby bottom speaking up 🗣️🔥🙏
@Epic_candle4 ай бұрын
War thunder doesn't have machine kill for tanks, and ace crew only tanks 20sec to repair, I think this is also where the problem is, repairing is too op and people can easily reject dying, if they remove repairing for sim or realistic it can easily put tanks that can take shots and those who cannot on the same level, basically they need to overhaul the repair system
@burneracc25674 ай бұрын
3BM25 sucks balls. I want more open maps at lower BRs, getting semi urban map 95% of the time just isn't enjoyable.
@ChillyMcChill4 ай бұрын
problem is, low BR germany (like from panzer 4 f2 to King Tiger) absolutely dominates large open maps. The shermans or t-34s cant do anything at those ranges, which is why they implemented "semi urban" maps so that the german mains get to pick off the ocassional sherman conscript who just wanders into the open, but also gives a chance for smarter sherman players to take advantage of their stabilizers to get the first shot off in sudden urban encounters
@burneracc25674 ай бұрын
Yeah, maybe something inbetween would be better, like a crossover between Ardennes and large Sinai. But yeah, Germany absolutely dominates, tho I just want a bit flatter maps where I don't have to expose my whole tank to shoot at enemy when playing USSR, like on Ardennes where over 99% of inclines a T-34 has to drive over them completly while Panther gets a perfect hull down.
@reyreeey4 ай бұрын
We just not gonna talk about how APFSDS ingame can b o u n c e ?
@makarevych4 ай бұрын
Is that Ukrainian flag on your BVMs barrel? Thanks
@semicooperative71884 ай бұрын
Yes. I served with the Ukrainian contingent in Kosovo
@theophilecourjan4 ай бұрын
What i would like to see : -remove spall liners -ammo explode every time they get hit with enough energy -the stun mecanic when shooting a fuel tank seems fine to me (the first one to pen should be the one that get a kill and not the opposite) -Maybe try to add more component in tanks model so that your almost certain the your shot will make damage.
@fefgam4 ай бұрын
The whole game is broken... garbage ass game
@Kerry594 ай бұрын
W yap session, unfortunately you are a console player so your opinion is invalid
@SCP--op2eq4 ай бұрын
honestly you sound like a bozo so just sit down and cope this is coming from a pc player to ;)