WARFRAME | Is this Entrati, or is it not he? Interesting data found in the New Codex

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TheDsIEGE

TheDsIEGE

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The Whispers in the Walls quest is just around the corner and with it's introduction, we have some new lore that's been added to the game, a kind of brief retelling of the tenno's journey up to this point. However with that new information, DE has given us some rare clarity on certain parts of the game and... also provided a few inconsistencies that I want to address and see if we can figure out a few of the new quests concept points based on what they gave us.
0:00 The Business
0:59 Introduction
3:07 The Void
10:12 The Queens
13:02 The Sentinel
14:32 Ballas and the Drifter
17:53 The Kalymos Sequence
20:12 The Consequences
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@emperorblastoff7841
@emperorblastoff7841 7 ай бұрын
Siege do you think Parvos Granum made some kind of deal with the man of the wall? Since he has been stuck in the void for sometime, and when we first meet him in the deadlock protocol. He says.”That is why you have been invited here.” Like he was expecting us.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Personally I think anyone that's utilized the void on a macro scale has been "visited" Now from here, it's tough to say what happens next. We know of three so far... Us, Entrati and Rell. There could be more...
@cashewcake3482
@cashewcake3482 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE Lotus said "She have seen the wall's other face, too. She have heard the voice" too
@godzelda123
@godzelda123 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE Yupm, just confirms the idea that the Man in the Wall and the void itself are one in the same.
@daydreamdirty
@daydreamdirty 7 ай бұрын
@@godzelda123can’t be- void is literally a lack of a hole in space.
@godzelda123
@godzelda123 7 ай бұрын
@@daydreamdirty "Paradox, you behold an absence. Describe it."
@Jun88782
@Jun88782 7 ай бұрын
From my understanding Otak was some kind of miner (
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, and then lost his construct, with loid letting him "move in" so to speak. There aren't many others on deimos unless they've been in hiding for years or... they are Grandmother? Doubt that one too, maybe a new faction.
@Jun88782
@Jun88782 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE at this point it can even be the infested (don't think so but it's not imposible XD), but there is someone or even somthing recording your and the family's move into Entrati's lab maybe another Cephalon or straight up a simple robot lol
@xgardenofedenx
@xgardenofedenx 5 ай бұрын
One thing to note about Albrecht losing his voice and eyesight is that when he escaped the void he said that Loid found him, nursed him and eventually restored his eyesight and voice though clearly they're not fully healed as his eyes seem to have cataracts and the way he speaks sounds like he has difficulty taking long pauses and his vocals are very choppy.
@vigvaryb
@vigvaryb 3 ай бұрын
Yea that's clear from whispers of the wall, this video came out before that. Dunno why he didnt wait a couple days but whatever
@agopessimist1335
@agopessimist1335 7 ай бұрын
The writers for these entries may be members of the new Syndicate that we'll meet after the quest. I think it's implied that they're currently residing in the Void, or the dimension inside Albrecht's labs, which could explain how they know about the Operator given the ability to monitor alternate timelines or dimensions like Duviri. Also, this may be a bit of a crackshot, but to answer the enigma between Albrecht Entrati's pitiable state shortly after his first Void Jump and the man we see in Whispers in the Wall, what if the other Albrecht Entrati we see is like that of the Drifter? An alternate timeline version of them that experienced a different timeline/reality altogether? While it is mainly due to the Drifter not being introduced until WAY later in the story, I always found it interesting how we never see the Man in the Wall interact with the 'Drifter' the same way it did with the kid Operator until the end of the New War when he squeezes through, and even then he never goads us/talks to us/leads us to trails the same way it did to Kid Operator. An alternate timeline Albrecht would explain why he's older looking, uses more primitive technology, and appears more human compared to the Orokin-looking physique we see of him. It would also explain his interest in Duviri and the Drifter, and would have been a way for him to bypass the limitations to his body from his encounter with the Man in the Wall, though I still am not sure how Wally seems to possess him in 1999. Maybe there are 3 Albrechts. The one who made the first Void Jump, met Wally, and lost his sight and voice. The alternate reality one who instructed the new Syndicate to monitor the Void within his labs, constructed the Vessels, and programmed Loid with the Kalymos Sequence. And lastly, the Man in the Wall himself, who takes form in 1999 using his body as a template, much like how Wally takes on our form as well, marking 3 different 'Operators' (Kid, Drifter, Wally)
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah! Good point, and this is an excellent theory!!! I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't turn out to be what happens!!!
@mirdhi0
@mirdhi0 7 ай бұрын
Not reading all that right now, just the first paragraph. I imagine the new syndicate is either from the murmur or some surviving attendants/ servants of Albrecht Entrati.
@agopessimist1335
@agopessimist1335 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE Though this might be incredibly inaccurate, it could be possible that the Albrecht we see in Whispers in the Wall/1999 may in fact be an Albrecht FROM the timeline of 1999. I have a feeling that in 1999’s timeline/reality this Albrecht had discovered the Technocyte virus and used it to create the Warframe “suits” that Arthur and Aoi use, and might have (accidentally or willingly) caused the Technocyte outbreak. The reason I’m bringing this up is because it could support the idea that the Albrecht we see is an alternate timeline version, supported by the fact that this Albrecht is using an old computer ripped straight from 1999 featuring an archaic web page, and both him and Loid looking much more human than Orokin. And most importantly, DE revealed on Twitter that Qorvex was a Warframe built by Albrecht himself, making it one of the few Warframes not created by Ballas himself. The other exception I can think of off the top of my head is Titania, but the thing is, is that Titania was made around the same time as the other Warframes. So how could Albrecht, who we know lived far before the creation of Ballas’s Warframes/Primes (no Primes at all that we know of so far in 1999), have been able to create Qorvex without the knowledge that Ballas had at the time, or even before the Infestation became a thing when the Old War began, again long after Albrecht’s time? Unless he had the roots of the idea in 1999’s universe? My idea is that Orokin Albrecht pulled or found an alternate version of himself from another timeline (1999), and it is this Albrecht that he recruited to find a way to combat the Indifference while the original would find himself in Duviri and choose to die without Continuity. The 1999 Albrecht would then recruit Loid and the new Syndicate to monitor the Operator/Man in the Wall/Void until the construction of the Vessels was complete? Super crackpot theory, and super unlikely, but hey? Can’t wait for TGA to show us more Whispers in the Wall stuff!
@whitejester
@whitejester 7 ай бұрын
I thought Albrecht simply went into a human body or Orokin bodies become human again when they stop taking Kuva.
@Psycorde
@Psycorde 7 ай бұрын
That group sounds a lot like Quills... Remembered those exist.
@jackwander6222
@jackwander6222 7 ай бұрын
Entrati is probably like the tenno. Void touched but changed in ways of Sight and Sound. It's probably the reason why we keep seeing a doppelganger cause how he first made contact with the void. Like stepping into a reflection for the first time, the void was given form, reason, and a wish for more, but as soon it reaches in the door that held its reflection closed. Lost a finger doing so yet remains close, tapping lightly on the wall just wanting a way in. I believe we are going to ground zero. The door he closed is starting to bend and crack, only a matter of time before the man behind the wall finds a way in. Maybe this is the reason why we are chosen, mend the door and maybe help Entrati himself along the way.
@CosmicInertia
@CosmicInertia 4 ай бұрын
Yes, this makes sense. Since the tenno exist between both void and non void. They can be the man in the walls greatest threat or freedom
@ChonkyTatzelwurm
@ChonkyTatzelwurm 7 ай бұрын
So for the sight and voice thing, one of the things that gets repeated pretty often on Deimos is how the Void messes with people's senses of time and space. The Isolation Vaults themselves exist for people to come back to their senses in, as it were. I've always assumed that Albrecht didn't permanently lose his sight and voice, but that they were gone in that moment and his sense of the passage of time was such that he felt the loss with a sense of finality. I don't know if you've ever had a dream in which you've lost limbs or otherwise been injured in a way that would be life-altering if it were real, but on the few occasions I've had them I feel an overwhelming sense of finality rather than loss, it's not "Oh no, I'm injured," it's a sense that whatever happened, I'm going to have to do without what I lost from now on. That's what I imagine what he's experiencing felt like, being unable to rationalize that it might be temporary
@Kennywats
@Kennywats 6 ай бұрын
No he did lose his sight and voice. The new codex entries answers it. Loid healed him
@kartheon
@kartheon 7 ай бұрын
I just was watching Brozime doing chains, Palladino calls the man in the wall the Indifference. Wouldn't have noticed unless without this video.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Chain of harrow is one of the best quests in warframe for all kinds of little bits of information on him. Although... he's curiously called rell the entire time.
@jipowap
@jipowap 7 ай бұрын
I love the parallels with 40k. For instance the Warp interfered with 80's Earth in an old game called Chainsaw Warrior where an Ash Williams style guy takes on hoards of mutants and chaos cultists. Here is a "god" newly born into reality again reaching back before its physical appearance. Both get a touch Buddhist with the metaphysics. There is much implying a golden path to a greater tommorow for Humanity and Eldar, a coin flip impossibly landing on edge. Balance in the most cosmic and painful manner imaginable. The gods beyond the veil do not care if they lose in reality, _they thirst for entertainment_ not victory. As do we.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
I gotta check this warp out...
@jipowap
@jipowap 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE I should note they took the idea from Michael Moorcock's connected works, but they've made it their own thing in the ensuing 40 years. If DE is cribbing notes from them in turn, we may see 6 "gods" rather than 4, and only our wally being anything resembling chaos. While WF has physical corruption and spatial storms a'la 40k, it otherwise treats void energy a bit like Star Wars EU treats the force. If you ever want to truly nerd out to something ridiculously _deep fried_ in lore there is A Fan With Too Much Times audio drama "Star Wars vs 40K". He spends a good chunk of time off script explaining how the warp and force nether space act practically the same. How one might be a calmer example of the other. Before the galaxy wide "War in Heaven" the warp was called the Sea of Souls and reincarnation was possible, but the war produced warp predators that started feasting upon souls. Eventually three greater intelligences coalesced out of the boiling emotion.
@tcfh2003
@tcfh2003 6 ай бұрын
​​@@TheDsIEGEAlso, I might add, if you're interested in the WH40k Warp paralells, maybe check out how Tzeentch corrupted/tricked Magnus The Red and eventually made him his Primarch Daemon Prince. Cause there do appear to exist at least some similarities between Magnus and Albrecht. Both fashioned themselves as scientists, although Magnus was perceived more as a sorcerer, both are of the opinnion that the Warp/Void is something that can be understood and controlled, and both may or may not have knowingly or unknowingly made deals with higher entities of the Warp/Void, which lead them to be tricked into a worse position, possibly to the point where accepting a deal was the only way to continue onward and not lose everything (actually this last thing sounds more like the operator-wally deal, but still interesting).
@GhostlyPancakeTheOddMancake
@GhostlyPancakeTheOddMancake 7 ай бұрын
Its interesting to me that Albrect managed to create the Kalymos sequence while potentially still being his own doppleganger. Seems as if he exists as a superposition of the sorts. Maybe the void is a quantum manifestation or anomaly??? Thanks for making me think again, as you always do friend.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and that would fall right in line with the tenno and tenative place within dimensions!
@maniacalcoast2742
@maniacalcoast2742 6 ай бұрын
post update, i loved this story update/expansion it was short but sweet and really good, i loved the sub plot too, and im not a romantic person. but that wicked smile from albrecht and the scene at the end was fucking WILD
@hybenandreasen2888
@hybenandreasen2888 7 ай бұрын
One thing to note, that I haven't seen mentioned, is that in the 1999 trailer, Entrati hides his eyes with his cap near the end, only showing his mouth, just like the Man in the Wall, having no visible eyes and only a grinning mouth. This could maybe be an indication that the void is in control. So kind of a symbolism to say who is in control
@C0mput3-
@C0mput3- 7 ай бұрын
One thing I noticed is how right after he says “you are late” the new year countdown ends and it hits the year 2000 and then Wally starts speaking
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
And the countdown ends in the background audio...
@C0mput3-
@C0mput3- 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGEyeah, might mean something might not. I find it funny that it’s called Warframe 1999 and the trailer ends once it reaches the year 2000
@TheDragonfriday
@TheDragonfriday 7 ай бұрын
​@C0mput3- well year 2000 people thought it be end of the world lol
@C0mput3-
@C0mput3- 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDragonfriday I thought that was 2012, idk I wasn’t born by 2000
@Orion_44
@Orion_44 7 ай бұрын
@@C0mput3- I know this from my mom, but 2000 was indeed a year people were sorta afraid of
@TabbyVee
@TabbyVee 7 ай бұрын
A brief explaination for why Albrecht 1) Has his eyesight and voice despite losing them as he says in the entries 2) has a different appearance than the portraits we see of him. This is extremely simple, and I don't know why you never mention it. KUVA. Nowhere does it say that he has never used Kuva, in fact its the opposite, in the Netra entry he says that he will never take the Kuva (again), meaning he has before. "And so it is that I will not take the Kuva now. Or ever again." Before the existence of Void Travel, Albrecht looked the way he did in the requiem entries. He lost his voice, lost his sight when he shattered his way through the bell glass running from Wally. He later partook of the kuva, transferring into a new body, likely many times as the attempts to reach Tau was a many centuies endeavor, around the time of the Zariman incident, he had the appearance we see in his portraits on the Zariman, we know this because Acrithus' description of him is similar to the one seen in those portraits, notably his "hair like snakes". After that he has the body which we see today in Whispers, with the trenchcoat. We know this because he has the same *voice* as he has in the requiem entries, he recorded them while he had that body, because otherwise he would have had a difference voice from being in a different body, it was at this time aswell however that he decided that he would never take the Kuva ever again, as said in the Netra entry. He does some Whispers stuff, goes into his pod, blah blah whatever happens, and we see him in 1999.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
He says he lost his voice forever tho. that's pretty definitive.
@EmceeJoseph
@EmceeJoseph 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE He could always just get a new voice and new eyes by performing continuity at least once since the first trip into the Void.
@EmceeJoseph
@EmceeJoseph 7 ай бұрын
Ballas sounded and looked the same during The New War as he did in Umbra's memory from back in The Old War, the time span between those being at least a thousand years. Surely Ballas has performed Continuity at least once during all that time? I figure Orokin cosmetic procedures are advanced enough that the "continuity" of one's appearance/fashion could be maintained if one so wished. My theory is that Albrecht's new/old (when does WF:1999 happen?) trenchcoat form is a form of intentional disguise to blend in with the 1999 vibe since blue skin and snake hair would stand out.
@rodrigopinto9804
@rodrigopinto9804 7 ай бұрын
Thank ye O Siege for making me night with another juicy one (I mean I haven't seen it yet of course but I know the standards so I already know my mind is boutta spin)
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for wanting to watch!!! I'm excited to put this one out!
@635574
@635574 6 ай бұрын
The info in this also confirms what we assumed about the void towers, they were made as defensife place agains the sentients in the old war.
@stlkid01
@stlkid01 6 ай бұрын
Hand hand is the lotus hand. It gets cut off before we both fall in the void
@Yaddaer
@Yaddaer 6 ай бұрын
Nice stuff! In my opinion there are things that need to happen in a sequence, let s say. The Kalymos Sequence has begun but is not complete yet. Because Entrati got " scattered" during his experiment and he narrate what happen through the words we saw ( Lohk, Netra, Khra etc) The "Sequence" will be completed when embodiment of all the words are found and gathered so to reunite MEND what happened on the day of Entrati's experiment. (My own speculation)
@jacobmc9738
@jacobmc9738 7 ай бұрын
"My body is ready," Reggie Fils-Aimé
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Won't be long now!!!
@DemonicDesign
@DemonicDesign 7 ай бұрын
You bring up stuff i dont even think about and things that if taking everything into consideration under everthing we have learned it all makes sense in my eyes. i too hope the new update brings more answers for the questions that have none
@mirdhi0
@mirdhi0 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video Captain Siege. It was incredible and I will be rewatching it about 4 times starting now.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Feel free! I can use all the views you want to give me!!!
@bakuamad5519
@bakuamad5519 6 ай бұрын
One of the last passages on the wall does mention his body healing. Suggesting that the physical damage like his sight and voice healed. I also feel like it suggested that his mind was permanently damaged but to an unknown extent. Which is what makes him question who came out of the void
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 6 ай бұрын
It also confirms all of this wasn't done using Continuity....
@CaptainRasmot
@CaptainRasmot 7 ай бұрын
So, with the whole thing about continuity, I think that it's far more likely that there was some sort of "Alpha" form of it before the introduction of the Void to greater society. It was probably far more akin to something brain scanning and transference that one could witness in Soma. Where the brain is "copied" and not fully brought over. So the way to contain that sense of unease and continuity would be to kill "the old" version/form. And with how Orokin society managed to pretty much make a sort of Techno-Fungi?? Not sure what to call it, but every Orokin structure is meant to be like the Unum in Cetus. Both a feat of architectural engineering and bio-mechanical engineering. Literally the entirety of the Origin system is built upon some form of Nano technology. So I think that is why continuity is mentioned in Albrecht's monologue on Deimos. Because there was a . . . 0.1 version of it, before the 1.0 was ever created. Much like how a lot of the stuff Albrecht uses, seems to also be a much older variant or version of technology.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Maybe... I'm REALLY hoping the next quest clears this up, it will make explaining this part so much easier in the future.
@CaptainRasmot
@CaptainRasmot 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE Honestly they've been needing to do some HEAVY amounts of explanation about everything in general. There are so many things that have been left vague that I am pretty sure that someone has stolen the Lotus's couch AGAIN. It was funny the first time, now it's getting a little concerning.
@seirbells9546
@seirbells9546 7 ай бұрын
I love to watch your observations of the lore, it's always a good way to catch back up on what's going on!
@thewarriorcat3271
@thewarriorcat3271 7 ай бұрын
So many questions, so many potential answers! I can’t wait for Whispers!
@Khamydrian
@Khamydrian 7 ай бұрын
Both Entrati and Rell were treated as outcasts, that made them indifferent and it seems like everyone who feels that way and gets into some sort of interaction with the void reaches a state that puts them above their peers. Even the tenno were treated as outcasts and dangerous as well, it's like the man in the wall played a similar role as the lotus, by nurturing their potential and somehow giving them the necessary means to understand and control their true powers.
@dreamlessking9
@dreamlessking9 7 ай бұрын
Great work as always siege! Always nice to hear your thoughts.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Can't wait to see what's gonna happen!
@xPHOENIXDRAGONx
@xPHOENIXDRAGONx 7 ай бұрын
Love your vids man
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!! I'm glad you enjoy them!
@werlmb
@werlmb 7 ай бұрын
I can't shake this feeling that Kalymos is the one writing these entries 😂 The Kalymos sequence? It's probably the kavat walking over the keyboard or something lol
@NeedsContent
@NeedsContent 7 ай бұрын
I hope any remaining Lotus doubters out there are paying attention. This is pretty cool, tbh. Nice to see so much WF lore laid out so neatly.
@TheRandomYoYo
@TheRandomYoYo 6 ай бұрын
It may be that the void was just that. A void. A lack of anything of substabce. And is Albrecht was the first to touch it. It took his void and became sentient.
@Sonacnights
@Sonacnights 7 ай бұрын
10:05 The eye is looking directly at the term 'Tenno'. Heh. Neat.
@tireseas
@tireseas 7 ай бұрын
I get this strange feeling the 1999 we see is either inside the sleeper's head or another one of Wally's construct's like our walking around the Zariman.
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker 7 ай бұрын
You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind; a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. Your next stop...the Void.
@azalrou1305
@azalrou1305 7 ай бұрын
Interesting video as always. Can't wait to get the spell book weapon!
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Wonder if there will be like different grimoires added over time, and what the difference is between them? Like, what does it feel like to fire a book? I guess we're gonna find out, lol!
@azalrou1305
@azalrou1305 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE ya I'm very curious to see what books stats is like.
@nikolaiprophet
@nikolaiprophet 7 ай бұрын
grimoires are secondary or a different weapon type?@@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
secondary i believe...
@azalrou1305
@azalrou1305 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE I think on a dev stream they said its secondary?
@neromalave4853
@neromalave4853 7 ай бұрын
I can't wait for this update dude thanks for the hype 😁😁😁
@InquisitionL6
@InquisitionL6 6 ай бұрын
I just got into Warframe this last week and your videos have really helped me stay coherent on the grind. Something I noticed though was that everything in this story arc exists because of a quantum state. Eternalism is just saying scientifically all time exists at the same time. Which made a lot of things click in the story for me. The Indifference, your shadow, Lotus, everything is happening because Entrati is basically a watcher on the wall. Guys on a mission to fight a cosmic threat because he paradoxically saved himself from the threat. How many loops has he gone through? He left mid war, his computer and everything is meticulously prepped for him to practice doing what he needs to do with 1999 technology. His arrival in Duvari, his interactions, the "chosen operator" being specifically the sole survivor miracle of the void. Even the existence of a time machine is very coincidental and in line with the paradox. There's also a fascinating line where he mentions that he was obsessed with the void, something he didn't know existed, much less would have value. How many times has he done this to where he felt safe enough to keep trying to not realize the Indifference would eventually find him?
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 6 ай бұрын
I'm actually going to be going over that specifically in my next video!!!! I think you'll enjoy!
@SmoochyRoo
@SmoochyRoo 5 ай бұрын
Super important to note that his first passage doesn't use continuity to refer to the process of transferring to a new body, he refers to humanity's (when he says Us) ancient deep past and how our boundless desire to live for as long as possible as well our endless curiosity to know how the universe around us works (wanderlust) lead to his discovery of the void and its consequences
@withinmyscope
@withinmyscope 6 ай бұрын
Good Stuff, dude.
@eelepage
@eelepage 7 ай бұрын
Love your videos man. I look forward to the next. I have a feeling the next (massive) expansion in the game will be the Tau system, bigger confrontations with the Sentients, new sentients, "prime" Archons, the Lords of Tau and hopefully a more indepth explanation of the original 3 Archons and more on Pazuul(Erra). I'm hoping for a full emerssive/expansive System like Origin
@thimovijfschaft3271
@thimovijfschaft3271 7 ай бұрын
DE said themselves that Tau is very far away in their plans. They want to finish the story of the origin system first before we're going to a new system. Rebecca also said in the developer QA on Discord that they are not touching the Sentients for a while. I think they might have been a bit tired of the Sentients after they have been the looming big bad since the Stolen Dreams quest which came out in March 2015. Which would be understandable but still disappointing tbh because they are my favorite faction and I was underwhelmed with them during the New War Quest.
@ivixr427
@ivixr427 7 ай бұрын
Might be the Quills who write the logs
@DakotaBLK
@DakotaBLK 7 ай бұрын
I love your videos!
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Stenchy333
@Stenchy333 7 ай бұрын
soon we wont have too speculate 3 days away so hyped!
@Nathan_Coley
@Nathan_Coley 7 ай бұрын
Great video as always Siege
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!! I appreciate it!!!
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! I appreciate you stopping by to give it a watch!!!
@aliteralfrog7005
@aliteralfrog7005 6 ай бұрын
Albrecht Entrati or not, bro got drip
@malaki7335
@malaki7335 7 ай бұрын
Nice video! Also Continuity did exist before Albrecht's experiments with the void. Even though they may not have understood it yet, it seems that Kuva allowed the Orokin to interact with the Void before it was explored more fully by Albrecht. I am very curious how Kuva was discovered and what it's connection to the Void actually is.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Where do you see this? I've looked everywhere for actual confirmation of this but I can't find it stated in game. If you find it and are willing to share let me know, I'll be keeping my eye out.
@malaki7335
@malaki7335 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE In regards to the connection between Kuva and the Void. I am referencing the Duviri Tablets. What is 'Kuva'? A. Fluid with Void-derived capacity to conduct consciousness. And I am pretty sure continuity existed before the void was explored, as in the Albrecht logs, he says, "Immortal as we are, we die with the sun." Implying they already have a means of immortality. And later he says he will not perform continuity again after what he saw in the void. Implying that he had done it a number of times before.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
That could be interpreted in a few different ways tho. He could mean the orokin society dies with the sun, not necessarily them as individuals, much like humanity now. In the Jahu Requiem he states that "The wasted years had shown the Void to be just that. Nothing. No energy. No entanglement. No form." so... which is it? How could a thing that produced Kuva be Nothing? This is why I believe he is talking about the orokin as a whole, not himself. As far as his continuity, when he is writing this passage it's in the past tense, "For each passing day, there grew a tumorous idea", with only later him determining he wouldn't take it again. How many times did he take it before he came to this conclusion? Who's to say. My point is, this area, is one where I think Head cannon takes over for either side as it's far from concrete in the way it was presented to us. Most likely on purpose, like everything else in the warframe universe.
@lfprangley
@lfprangley 7 ай бұрын
You deserve 100k plus subscribers 🎉
@navetal
@navetal 7 ай бұрын
Re: continuity - It seems like the Kuva-based techniques used to perform continuity are unrelated to, or at least not reliant on, the void-tech made based on Albrecht's research. It's also possible that the Orokin already knew of the Void and Albrecht's contributions were the ability to actually enter it. Entering the void where the laws of nature don't apply seems necessary for FTL travel, which seems to be Albrecht's main focus of research since he opens his vitruvian entries by talking about human's desire to explore and expand, and his role being that of the one who will enable the already-immportal Orokin to reach beyond their own star so they may outlast it. Re: the severed hand - I'm pretty sure that is the Lotus' hand. It looks the part and, since the lotus fell into the void after Ballas severed her right arm on which we held, it makes sense that her right hand would fall separately into the void. Re: seeing, speaking Albrecht - Albrecht is also suspected of being the scholar who visited Duviri for a limited time and built a laboritory there, and from the codex entries that tell this story it seems he was also capable of speaking with the locals there. On the other hand, Albrecht seems to not be able to speak, or at least not speak coherently, at the start of the demo from Tennolive, which makes me think that his loss of sight and voice may be related to damage caused to his physical body, a limitation that may not apply in the void and wherever 1999's portion of the demo takes place.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
I mean... it seems that way, but there's nothing saying that's the case in game and most of the context clues point to 1, continuity being a product of the void, and 2 that void technology provided nothing before him. Head cannon I believe is influencing both sides at the moment, and I'm hoping we get clarification during whispers in the walls.
@dwylie83
@dwylie83 7 ай бұрын
Its the man in the wall he smiles at the end of the thing and then theres voidspeak either enchiladas getting possessed or its just the void dude
@slayersboxer915
@slayersboxer915 6 ай бұрын
Kinda reminds me of the three body problem for some reason
@vincentrei4446
@vincentrei4446 7 ай бұрын
This is a theory I've been thinking about for a while, if I've posted it here before I'm sorry for repeating myself. I believe I'm on the track to solving Duviri, I just need more help to find parallels, and that I've definitely solved the Angels of the Zariman. This began when I was rereading the Duviri fragments, specifically the Doll Mausoleum. The thing that jumped out at me is the fact that all the dolls were wearing onesie skinsuits, clearly the ones the Tenno wear. That struck me as odd, as to me there was only one place when the Tenno wore those suits, and coincidentally it matches up with the separate pod-like nature of the mausoleum (at later inspection I realized the Tenno wore them on the Zariman too but the theory stands regardless). I believe the Doll Mausoleum is the Duviri representation of the Reservoir, and that it being lost equates to the events of the Second Dream and Lua being pulled out. And then I thought, if this depicts the second dream, and watcher's island clearly depicts the chains of harrow, what if all islands somehow parallel the story events, present or past. The bleeding earth i think represents the new war and narmer, as those are the only events where we see a mass consumption of a mind altering blood-like substance. And then we get to the big one - the caves of academe. This may seem like a stretch, but this to me represents the angels of the zariman, as that's the only circumstance when we see void duplicates of only adults of a select population. And that made me think. Because there's something we all forgot inbetween maxing out the holdfasts and completing the angels quests in the first place. Kira died on the zariman recently. Kira became a void angel. And the holdfasts arent human, they're conceptual embodiment. THE VOID ANGELS ARE CORRUPTED CONCEPTUAL EMBODIMENT. And there we get the purpose of duviri. An entire kingdom filled with live conceptual embodiments. Because here's what wally did when he made the deal - he left one child in the void to make an army for him, and another in the origin system to clear the way for it
@Frankforsthoevel
@Frankforsthoevel 6 ай бұрын
Siege Albrecht says via the Grimoar (bosfight) that Loid gave him his vision and voice back.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 6 ай бұрын
I know!!! Does this mean I was right about continuity not being the method that they live so long? It looks like they just had really good medical tech...
@Frankforsthoevel
@Frankforsthoevel 6 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE ok so why do you speculate then that the man we see here(kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l8Byhc1nmJ_Jj6M.html) is not Albrecht based on intact eys and voice? thas confusing me :)
@LocksLifeLove
@LocksLifeLove 6 ай бұрын
Huh, I wonder if Albretch losing his 'vision' and 'voice' were metaphors of some kind. Maybe the void exposure changed his eyesight and vocals on a fundamental physical level. Also, it is possible that some kind of AI is writing these entries and summarizing 'facts' based on what can be confirmed. What I find interesting is that Albretch seems to have been exposed to 'all things' in the sense that he was exposed to every event past, present, and future and he's doing what he can with what he has and/or could decipher. Also also, I believe that many of the Orokin technologies were discovered without a greater understanding of _how_ they worked. Just because they used continuity and such doesn't mean that they fully understood how the void tied into those things. Albretch coming into contact with the indifference/man in the wall gave him a _better understanding_ of the void (IMO) and from that he developed a better understanding of how it fit with existing tech AND how to use it in new technologies.
@ErrorhIL
@ErrorhIL 7 ай бұрын
about you mentioning the pods for the sleeper being a transference pod instead of a cryopod, only one thought came to mind, we finnaly gonna see the originals of the archemedian cephalons like Simaris and Suda ingame XD, maybe those were something inbetween a way to allow the creation of a cephalon without sacrificing the original, you know designated for the archemedians or similars. and considering the spoiler that showed up during the wispoers presentations where suda was one of the NPCs involved, the math in my head tells me there is a possibility
@singletona082
@singletona082 7 ай бұрын
i love your reading of the entrati codex. Feels very SCP Foundation.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
That's a rather large compliment I must say. Thank you!
@nirablackfire2792
@nirablackfire2792 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad i'm not the only one who thought of SCP lol The whole thing gives off serious Foundation document vibes.
@singletona082
@singletona082 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGEIn specific it feels very much like how The Volgun does his readings.
@Lethalios
@Lethalios 7 ай бұрын
As far as we know, Albrecht has been trapped in the void for thousands of years, and went there with the intent of learning. Could it be possible that in this time he has been studying and absorbing all the inner workings of the universe allowing him to manipulate the void to his will? This could explain him seeing and speaking since he could theoretically change anything he wanted about his reality. Maybe he has spent so long in the void that he is no longer able to be differentiated from any other void entity that can manifest at any place or time much like our Wally. Or if we are to go with the multiple Albrecht theory it seems that, much like our tenno, he is a convergence point. Assuming that 1999, and origin system Albrecht are two separate individuals, he seems to be destined to bring about some great cataclysm or other major change to his current reality. I always feel like a lunatic when i speculate about this junk lol
@cagebusterjapan734
@cagebusterjapan734 7 ай бұрын
I hope the man in the wall is as eager as I am for this new update 😄🙏.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
ME TOO!!!
@breakneckblitz2317
@breakneckblitz2317 7 ай бұрын
The all caps man in the wall in the Kalymos protocol section may just be like how Darvo used to talk in all caps.
@TheWhildOne
@TheWhildOne 7 ай бұрын
Anyone know what the Zariman decoration at 14:15 is and where I can get it?
@vykdragostief4678
@vykdragostief4678 7 ай бұрын
"Us" (the authors of the codex in question) is likely to be "The Cavia", that new faction mentioned in the latest Devstream. If Loid (Sleeper) is in any way directly related to them remains a valid question, although the way he was addressed on the entry seemed distant enough to mean he does not (necessarily) belong as a member. We'll see, I guess...
@Capitan_Captain
@Capitan_Captain 4 ай бұрын
Now that I think about it, what Albrecht describes as his wounds sounds like high radiation contamination.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 4 ай бұрын
Yep...
@theninjaguy2
@theninjaguy2 6 ай бұрын
If you look closely at Entrati in the 1999 reveal, you can see that his eyes are milky in appearance, indicating that he is, in fact, blind.
@117johnpar
@117johnpar 7 ай бұрын
We need the Michael Scott gif of "Its happening, Okay everyone, ITS HAPPENING"
@117johnpar
@117johnpar 7 ай бұрын
Alternatively, Cronks "Oh yeah, Its all comin' together"
@UmbraFulgur
@UmbraFulgur 7 ай бұрын
When you think about it, these existential theories are from a free-to-play game that survived 10 years and became the template/inspiration of new games in the 21st century (our timeline). Edit: thats why Warframe is THE Game of our time.
@Benzinilinguine
@Benzinilinguine 7 ай бұрын
8:40 His line here is saying "when the sun dies, and the energy in our solar system dies, so do we". The Orokin had developed star-rails, not *intergalactic* travel. They only knew the Origin system. Well, and Tau, allegedly, and were using the sentients to "prepare" it. The legacy of Albrecht, the thing the person writing all of this is so concerned with protecting, is all of the data Albrecht ever had on figuring out a way to give the *universe* continuity; or at least a way to escape entropy. That was the Orokin's biggest fear in the long run, or so they thought. Not the Tenno, not the sentients, but the loss of all energy in their star system. Albrecht was trying to solve that. How close was he before deciding to f*ck off to another dimension/reality/timeline/whatever? Maybe that's why he wants to contact our tenno so badly. Maybe we solve that for him, somehow. Or maybe he really is just possessed. The time to see is soon approaching ;)
@ErrorhIL
@ErrorhIL 7 ай бұрын
I love how you never blame bad writing as one of the causes for the contradictions XD
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Well, keeping lore consistent over 10 years is a MASSIVE undertaking and further, it doesn't allow the creators a lot of freedom in the late stages of a game, so I understand there are going to be some plot holes and stuff that just generally doesn't make sense. Who knows, maybe DE watches one of these, addresses it in a new update and then I've done my job, even if my own speculation is wrong. I seek the truth, nothing more, nothing less.
@R_A_I_J_I_N__
@R_A_I_J_I_N__ 7 ай бұрын
This group that made theses entries sound similar to the Quills on Cetus. Perhaps this Albrecht Entrati is an alternate version of himself like The Drifter. I remember what Archimedean Yonta said about her Albrecht Entrati dream. She asked where has he been? He says "everywhere". Then he tears himself in half. He visited Duviri as well given what I read about Scholar's Landing. Perhaps the void is a quantum manifestation anomaly? I found it interesting that Parvos Granum isn't mentioned in these entries at all. Why was he insignificant to this group? I find even more interesting that Qorvex was developed by Entrati and not by Ballas. This update will have some major lore for sure. Looking forward to it. I hope this update finally has some answers. One last thing, I no longer feel like the infestation on Deimos was an accident.
@eyes8892
@eyes8892 7 ай бұрын
sup lookin forward for this one
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear that! This is a little primer of "things to be looking for" when doing the newest quest, if you will.
@clem7814
@clem7814 7 ай бұрын
Where were you able to find the intro music as I really love “the indifference” OST’s but I can only find the combat version from tennocon
@clem7814
@clem7814 7 ай бұрын
Update I think I found it under laboratory ambience
@DracoSafarius
@DracoSafarius 7 ай бұрын
The big thing is that the supposed Entrati in the trailer looks nothing like what we know him to look like. No Orokin body. He mentions in one of the logs about forgoing any future Kuva use so whatever might be there dies with him. So I would assume he transferred to a normal mortal body without any genetic modifications or powers so that if the void part took over it couldn't really do anything, that's why it's able to see and speak (different body entirely from the initial contact). Also, kind of unrelated, but likely that Entrati is speaking to us (the Tenno) when we're experiencing that entire debacle as Arthur. He's been sitting in that simulation for who knows how long waiting, hence us being late.
@Rhojune
@Rhojune 7 ай бұрын
Hey there, i love listening to your theories on Warframe lore.. Anyway.. I cant seem to find this codex. Where can I find the codex on the website? Thanks.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
look up Operator report warframe and you should see it.
@jaxirraywhisper741
@jaxirraywhisper741 6 ай бұрын
I am a simple Tenno. I see Rocky refference, I scream "DRAGOO" and click like button.
@kemo_l7350
@kemo_l7350 7 ай бұрын
The sound from the older data ( when killing balas was the main target ) the voice was very very close to ( YOU ARE LATE "warframe 1999" ) Scene!!?
@tiagocf1208
@tiagocf1208 7 ай бұрын
How do you access those entries in the warframe Site? is it a easter egg somewhere because I had no luck so far, just the normal update teasers
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Type in Operator Report Warframe in your search and it should come up.
@bruhframe5604
@bruhframe5604 6 ай бұрын
where u find websitw with the lore txts? or is this somewhere ingame? Edit: Search up "Operator report warframe"
@Sole_Samurai
@Sole_Samurai 6 ай бұрын
I have yet to check your channel again for a newer video but (before watching the video) do you think that the showdown in 1999 may lead to some paradoxical interaction between wally, entrati, and tenno as eternalism may take place and solidify the pact between Albrecht and wally... just as it did with our operators and drifters. How can we undo something that will always be done?
@Sole_Samurai
@Sole_Samurai 6 ай бұрын
I ask this as there is already a "paradox" within the game being that of duiviri... and if it has become a possibility for these events to be almost normalized. IN BEFORE 1999 becomes just another tile set post quest because its a time travel paradox and it is thus allowed to exist along side the rest of the universe..
@gunziro169
@gunziro169 7 ай бұрын
Its kinda scary that he's been observing us, but for how long exactly and how much does he know about the tenno and what he is going to do now, and what's his end goal here sorry for the questions ive got so many
@WFyinxia
@WFyinxia 7 ай бұрын
The Quills
@memphispiper2823
@memphispiper2823 7 ай бұрын
What’s not too different is how similar the requiems _Jahu_ and _Lohk_ really are. But when it comes to this “indifference” how is anyone sure if this is the real Lohk or merely just another form? Indifference? I say “endless” when it comes to Lohk and its primordial kin Jahu.
@divyarajs
@divyarajs 6 ай бұрын
Yay!!!finally you got sponsor. Or i have been away from KZfaq.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 6 ай бұрын
I couldn't believe it myself, but thank you!!!
@thomaspurol9322
@thomaspurol9322 7 ай бұрын
Once again I’m reminded of how the was no war in “The New War” or how the factions managed to work together. I guess DE can only write stories in past tense
@franciscoandres4907
@franciscoandres4907 7 ай бұрын
I always figured that Entrati just got a new body through Continuity. The later Leverian entries state that he will "not take the Kuva now, or ever again" and that his most recent body will be the "last he'll ever inhabit." All of this implies that he had previously partook in body swapping via Continuity before, and had only stopped after changing bodies a few times. This could also explain why his visual depiction in WITW and 1999 is so different from his depiction in the lore entries and even his own portrait. His Leverian appearance could've been his original body, which was the one that got blinded and muted. His Orokin appearance could've been a new body he got some time afterwards. Finally, his new WITW/1999 look could be the "last body" he had mentioned, and him entering the pod that Human Loid would later smash could actually have been the "final death" that he preferred over the risk of seeing Wally again. That being said, we should also take Conceptual Embodiment into account. As Yonta would put it, when concepts and Void meet, the Void creates a "thing" in that concept's image. This is how the Kingdom of Duviri came about, being created as a way for the Drifter to cope with the events of the Zariman incident. It could also be why things don't normally STAY dead when the Void is involved, as we've seen with Vor, Teshin, and the Holdfasts. It's possible that the Entrati we see in 1999 is basically a copy of the original Albrecht Entrati, one that's being used by Wally as a vessel in another timeline.
@shanedaley6236
@shanedaley6236 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking there could be a few red herrings in things DE has shown us like stuff in the trailer that could easily be changed with another character model if the scene appears in game
@yotanannyo9576
@yotanannyo9576 7 ай бұрын
So here is a oddity. If the Orokin Towers were made and constructed in the void. The was Zariman Ten Zero meant to cross the void from origin system to Tau. So what is problem with the void? Beyond "the indifference". On one hand the Orokin not only constructed towers as safety bunkers and energy collection. Menaing they knows what the void is and can do. Yet on the other hand they Orokin can't or didn't figure out how to use the void for FTL travel. Meaning they don't know what the void is or can do. So what is it? Do they know what and how the void works or do they not?
@net343
@net343 6 ай бұрын
As entrati puts it: Albrecht tried so hard but had no real drive Rell and the tenno were forced to be there but made it their own strength And parvos ducking made it into his own realm, for the grannum void is a pocket of the void twisted by him, if there’s someone with enough wits and guts to actually take on the indifference, its him with some tenno help
@dreamingleviathan3354
@dreamingleviathan3354 7 ай бұрын
Because Duviri is literally being invaded by The Indifferance and Entrati is straight up dead in Duviri
@cybernomad5971
@cybernomad5971 7 ай бұрын
Heres a crackpot theory. What if the man in the wall installed a fragment of his "personality/power" into various people that grabs his attention that can open the door just a bit wider. For example Albrect Entrati, the 7 emperors, Ballas and of course the Tenno. The reason being from my understanding is because all future possibilities exist within the void and anyone who can make a big enough ripple effect into future possibilities can in theory be directed in some way to creating a situation beneficial circumstance for Wally.
@melanclock
@melanclock Ай бұрын
I dont think albrect needed to take the kuva and continuity if he became a void entity like the operator. His body could be completely destroyed and he would just reform. His voice and sight probably mysteriously returned like kalymos returned in full health
@alandunn6090
@alandunn6090 7 ай бұрын
I'm not convinced that Ballas is Ballas. That is to say I think the person we encountered who was wearing his face is a sentient mimic, similar to Lotus. However we can see in The Lotus that the imprint of a person, Margulis in The Lotus case, can be a major influence, if not our right overriding the identity of a mimic. The true Ballas is hidden away somewhere, making moves in parallel to The Indifference, a fight between higher powers for the fate of the origin system.
@oreiusenderson8861
@oreiusenderson8861 7 ай бұрын
Siege does a killer Ballas impression
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Did you like that? I know it's not perfect but... it's something I'll keep working on.
@DirtySancheeezz
@DirtySancheeezz 7 ай бұрын
Man wf lore makes my brsin hurty
@gp-1542
@gp-1542 6 ай бұрын
Does anyone feel like the codex’s were made recently? Like they written like something is watching us
@justmccoy5213
@justmccoy5213 7 ай бұрын
The way I see it…the man in the wall is the fear of Albert, then we have the original Albert who might’ve died because he did not take the kuva and lastly his own double that tried to escape when the portal was opened. So I believe the Albert we see in the 1999 trailer is the double with the powers of the man of the wall behind him. If you notice, the man in the wall is not working alone and why not team up with Albert’s double? It’s a perfect due.
@nirablackfire2792
@nirablackfire2792 7 ай бұрын
I'm honestly hoping not. The last thing we need out of this whole mess is one more enemy added to the roster of hundreds. I'd much rather have (at least some version of him) be an ally against wally that isn't already six feet under.
@ParanoidCarrot
@ParanoidCarrot 7 ай бұрын
i think that the orginal opening of the portal was real, and entrati got injured, and its much much later when the entratis double comes to the scene,
@natethegamergaming4057
@natethegamergaming4057 7 ай бұрын
Does anyone think that it is strange how the Orokin tried to apply logic to the Void, a dimension where all time, reality and universes combine. The Void itself does some crazy things, I have my own theory that the Void itself is an entity. What would you think of that Siege?
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
I do, but what I find even more interesting is that on many levels it seems like the void has accepted much of their culture as it's own. To me, that's kinda scary.
@natethegamergaming4057
@natethegamergaming4057 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE True, it's almost like is wants to become part of the origin system (to an extent it has.)
@AngryCaesCorporation
@AngryCaesCorporation 7 ай бұрын
We literally have a portait of Albrecht available as a decoration. That guy doesn't look like him one bit. I never considered him to be Albrecht, and I don't know how you could have thought that.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
You don't think they look the same? REALLY?
@AngryCaesCorporation
@AngryCaesCorporation 6 ай бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE We got confirmation they're the same person, but I still think they don't look the same.
@qryvein
@qryvein 7 ай бұрын
after my understanding it is "albrecht" ( as it is unclear who of the albrecht in the story) that forced the creation of the tenno what we also have clues to in the new war. if one listens one can hear someone interfeare with the reliquary drive jump from the void. and tenno are no longer human but void born existens that is indicated multiple times as in right at the start and threw out the main story.
@qryvein
@qryvein 7 ай бұрын
also the void powers can be supressed, but still tenno are no longer human but a void born existence that once was human, but became so much more.
@qryvein
@qryvein 7 ай бұрын
and if the void is closed then the tenno loose their power and even will die since in a way the tenno are allready dead. and only live thanks to the void.
@justa2919
@justa2919 6 ай бұрын
I still don't understand the whole man in the wall thing can someone give me a short breakdown?
@RichTextKeyStrokes
@RichTextKeyStrokes 7 ай бұрын
My guess is it must be Ordis who’s monitoring us.
@bo0mbo0mbll12
@bo0mbo0mbll12 7 ай бұрын
The void is alive
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 7 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@chaellExE
@chaellExE 7 ай бұрын
What if Son accident, wasn't an accident but an elaborate ploy by EA to disappear. Because that whole Deimos thing sounds strange. Especially the aftermath and what happened to the whole family. It becomes even weirder if you start to look at the extend of infest within the family and the Necralisk itself.
@jacewilliamson9896
@jacewilliamson9896 7 ай бұрын
Do u think another like ballas will show there face, and umbra frames......and I l kno the lore has shown us alot....but I feel there's still unanswered questions...I still feel like there's something we are not seeing yet....the book that has ballas speaking on how he made warframes, will they unlock more....I also wonder is there a Rouge tenno and warframe out there...like the unbra excalibur....but different...and It seems from ballas to Albert....that some groups were building super soldiers to win the war......but what if there's another type of warframe we haven't seen yet ...we still need answers on the stalker..like what if the dax son from the sacrifice is still alive.....what I'd when the next quest comes we find something that tells us more about excalibur umbra and I think they should tell us a little bit of the man in the wall plan because now I don't think he is here for the tenno...I kinda think the man in the wall wants the void to take over the tenno universe.
@Capitan_Captain
@Capitan_Captain 4 ай бұрын
The man in the wall = angry Cheshire
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 4 ай бұрын
Damn... Im not even sure he's angry. He's just the cheshire cat!!!!! What a great analogy!
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