I just wanted to point out that transference was an Orokin technology long before the tenno, its just that somehow with the tenno's void powers they are able to physically transfer their whole body to their warframe's location via transference.

i think the theory that the indifference wants your body is most supported by the fact everytime we see it, its in the form of your opperator

i started warframe a week ago because i was so interested in the lore and now i’m really invested in the game aswell

I really love the general direction Warframe's story is going. And tbh even though the sacrifice was a rather short quest, it really gives some defining traits to the Warframes we utilize in-game. I can't wait for more stuff dealing with the Indifference to come up because it's such an Eldritch horror type of entity. That oppresive weight of something you just know you can't win against and that will acheive it's goal at any cost. The Chains of Harrow quest finally made more sense to me after doing the Whispers in the Wall. And Ghosts of The Zariman, because while I knew there was something to do with the Indifference I didn't know what exactly, so those quests helped clarify it to me.

The "Sacrifice" quest made so far the biggest impact on me. And made me feel bad, thinking what the warframe I just created may think or feel, yet unable to express it, a true hell for a mind. To warframe game itself, I dropped it before, waaay before, couple of years. Only due to my friend, tried it again. And again felt meh. Up until the story started to make sense, to "second dream" I think. Not sure why, but it has soo bad hooking up on the start. Nothing is even remotely explained, just kill and finish a quest, next and repeat. Dozens of mostly same scenaries, having no idea why you are that space ninja. Thats the only lore like issue I have. But nice video, keep up 😊

I been looking for a lore videos abt warframe cuz really didn’t understand it and I couldn’t find any good one, they were either ward to understand what they were saying or the video was like 5 hours long, but you explained it so well, best lore channel fr fr

i wish someday D.E make back story mission for every warframe that will be awesome. at this point we all know arthur is excalibur and mag is that lady on the phone that arthur is talking to.

This This is what I want to do when I make my videos. But more Voice Acting on my part of course. This is amazing! I KNEW ALL THE WARFRAMES WERE DAX 10 uears bro!

This and your last video are AMAZING and because the game has been around so long, a lot of topics and lore beats havent even covered well or maybe havent been done with new updated information included. Please keep making wf lore vids!!

Really good breakdown, and personally thanks to WitW I have a personal theory with imo the two most interesting characters of stalker and Wally/the indifference. Wally: So personally, I think the comment about everything having an opposite applies to Wally as well. He called the Indifference, an emotionless, uncaring, bored god, and I think all he wanted was some kind of connection. At the end of whispers we "defeat" wally with emotion, and given how Warframe plays a lot with themes connection and growth, I feel like Wally really isn't an enemy, but more like a bored child in search of companionship, however misguided. Next Stalker: so this is an insane theory, but after reading all the albrect logs it's something I latched onto. I think Stalker is Authur. DE mentioned we are getting more lore on him this year and well....1999 also continues this year. In Albrect's logs he mentions going back and with the technocyte "healing" people. Some of who adapted to the strain, which presumably is why Arthur looks like excal. Not to mention, it seems like Aurthur and Aoi have a vendetta against Albrect and aren't to keen about him. So my theory is that Arthur eventually fully mutated becoming the Stalker we know, and given what Albrect may have forced onto him shaped his hatred for us and the Orokin. The last bit about this, is that other than umbra's howls, Stalker (and his acolytes...but idk what that deal is there yet) is the only Warframe that can fully speak and form sentences (and apparently email us). I don't know, I feel like its very much a crackpot theory, but I'm going to latch onto it for now.

Nice video! Bell subbing to you was indeed a great idea since your last Warframe video, I'm looking forward to your next upload!

Valkyr in the lore is a perfect Warframe for another umbra valkyr was captured and scared by the corpus they also experimented on valkyr and that is the reason for her rage like i sead perfect for umbra and could be awesome please leave a like if you agree I want to see how many people do agree thanks

This was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!

I been looking for Warframe lore thank you great video drop more please.

dude these are really good. like really good. keep at it. warframe version of Byf incoming.

Nice video! I might reference this whenever I hit the strongest Warframes topic at a later date.

+1 sub! Really love your vids and takes, and I look forward to more!

Hey, i think you have found out many of the thoughts of whomever is responsible for the deep warframe lore, but i doubt they thought this out this detailed and structured. its more like a concept that grows over the years and sometimes people forget what they originally meant, and sometimes the team changes as well. and i want to add something about the morale choices we make in all these quests. They are color-coded white, black and the "neutral" one, but it isnt grey, its half black and half white. Its the only dualistic choice, the other ones are consumed by either light or dark. so chosing the "neutral" one never was neutral, but the dualistic choice.

1:18 it is actually known, they state in the war within quest in one of the vetruvian logs that the orokin designed the infested to combat the sentients and when it failed to affect them, they essentially broken arrowed their own outer colonies to slow the sentients down by turning any and all bio material into hostiles.

Wow, love the video, the idea that the man in the wall wants to control the Tenno is an interesting concept as well. I think it's likely that the reason he hasn't killed us is because he needs us to fulfil our end of the deal, whatever that might be.

Thanks for sharing your "insight-story". This is exactly what´s completing the "Tennoverse". ♥ Ty & h5 Tenno StarBoy - Snowy Owls

With the alignment system being probably based on "you have a 'light' part and a 'dark' part and a sun alignment meaning we don't accept our dark part, neutral meaning we accept it and control it, and the moon meaning we let the dark control us", your theory of Wallter wanting our body is a bit... chilling. Though I wonder if DE would really take the time to make branches in the story, a bit à la Dragon Age. It's time consuming, after all.

What if the deal was "I'll let you out, ONLY if I can come with you" and bc we don't know how to, so he influences us, dropping hints, helping us when needed. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to fulfill our deal

I've notice a few issues with your theory. I'll go in order to break down some of the issues. Ballas is not an Archimedean, he's an Executor, part of the "Seven" who were basically the Orokin kings/queens with how much control they held. He was even the one to put the Sentient's creator to death by the Jade Light. The Warframes weren't necessarily insane by the Infestation, it's clear that their minds became warped, as more then just Umbra could move on their own. In fact it's a 'Tenno Free' warframe that encouraged the Tenno to turn on the Orokin. The Operators are somehow different from The Man In The Wall. How the Holdfast changes when they start 'siphoning' energy off of you, implies you are somehow a 'safe' conduit for void energy. That somehow we are the opposite of The Indifference... We Care. And the last bit. I don't think the Man in The Wall is an embodiment of the universe's mind, he seems more opposed to reality itself. He's the embodiment of the Void's mind, of something antithetical to reality itself. And the Operator is the unique being that acts as it's proper bridge, the being that both is and isn't, the being of true duality, Old and young, free and trapped, stuck keeping him trapped, and simultaneously the one thing that let's The Indifference access reality consistently.

For sure valkyr, umbra excal, voruna, protea, and citrine are really peculiar warframes, almost as if they have some type on sentience but buried deep inside. Perhaps the original and being is still inside but somehow regressed, I hope someday D. E would bring explanation for that.

Im still thinking the Warframes are the adults from the Zariman 10-0. I think that would be a crazy twist. Like we are potentially controlling our parents that went mad from the Void incident.

Mey Sah might be Hydroid’s Kraken, Warframe thousand-year fish theory, these collectible glass fish statues around the Plains of Eidolon have a story about Mey Sah, there has just been no real info on the Kraken which looks like its helminth and this is the best connection. It would be cool if that's expanded upon as Hydroid’s Kraken might appear in Cetus waters. I doubt it though, just another something extra that has been forgotten.

The orokin made the infested as a weapon, they made its master Nidus, but failed to control him and locked him away, then they made an infested master they could control, Lephantis, who got corrupted by code error consume.

Hey man I got a question. Do you think it's possible for Operators to perform powers that the warframes have once they have mastered that warframe? We know that an operator displayed pyro powers similar to ember, so this question has been on my mind for a while.

I think that the infested was made by the orokin and maybe by accident. We can see flesh in orokin buildings like the unum tower, maybe the infested is just that but corrupted.

One question I've been wondering for a time is are Warframes alive? Do they have their own subconscious? If so, does that mean we literally just kill them when we subsume them to the helminth?

The man in the wall isn’t the universes mind it’s more like the Voids mind it’s straight up stated somewhere by the assassin warframe (I forget his name) that the void has a voice and wants something

Do u have notice about umbra how don't respond on u wen u in out to frame fast?

Fun fact the "Grey Strain" of demos was actually the original technocyte virus.....and also the warframes powers come from the void or more precisely the children of the void the Tenno.....before the being paired with the tenno the warframes were only known as technocyte golems and nothing leads us to believe they had preternatural abilities before the tenno were put to use controling them through transference becoming the operators

10:35 Rebecca: *Laughs in head developership*

There goes another person throwing the frames aside as nothing more than toys for the Tenno. The main thing that many people miss is that the frames were TORTURED. You do not torture mindless things. You torture people Even with Ballas stating they took volunteer or not, people still do not understand that the frames were free from Orokin control. The Orokin tried everything to get the frames to obey their commands and yet, the frames did what was against commands. What type of commands do you think the Orokin would give? They were warlords that wanted total submission and if you did not obey, they destroyed you and tortured you to comply. Do you think they didny so this to colonies under their rule? Warframes when they were free did not just do as the Orokin wanted, they fought for the weak and saved those they can. This went against what the Orokin wanted and so the Orokin donned them as unruly and savages. Its the same way those who conquer say the people they overthrow are savages and have no concept of civilization. Those who write history tell it from their viewpoint. And the Orokin see only their way as the way

wait, so what was the deal we made with the indifference then?

Just wanted to let you know the man in the walls is in dark sector taking place in the 1900s prequel to warframe

I think we need quests showing the backstories of all Frames🙏

So you're telling me the person who was turned into Yarelli was considered one of the strongest warriors?

Not all Warframe are tortured souls though. Gara knew what the infestation would do and still did it willingly. Mirage went further beyond and knew what it would do, then manipulated Ballas' design so she'd transform into what she wanted.

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Wrong, the sentients used to be corpus like robots but the void turned them into sentient beings and as an thing gains sentience or enough knowledge a lot of stress chaos and anger happens and so the sentients didn't want their newly gained mind go to waste for orokin

Good video! but that spinning section with the Ballas narration made me really dizzy...

Ok so the "bio weapon" that you call was made and crated to destroy the sentient because orokin realized that they are too powerful but the infestation was much stronger but ballas took that opportunity to crate frames of war and he used that bio weapon to crate monters and using the daxes he could contorl them ofc that wasn't the first time balls tortured the frames of war. The orokin were once humans too but they forgot their humanity

Yer awesome

Belric the brave and Rania the clever, brought the infested to Deimos forever......so we know

Meanwhile: Valkyr.

starting off im already going "no shit Sherlock" but cheers

1:16 - Yes, we do know. This was covered extensively in TNW. "During the Orokin era, before The Old War, the Infestation was created from the Orokin Empire's technological advances in biotechnology." --Warframe wiki 1:30 - It was not an accident. "During The Old War, the Orokin Empire was desperate in defeating their Sentient adversaries, so they rebooted Infestation research to find ways to weaponize the parasite against their enemy.[3] Once notable attempt was the use of bio-bombs filled with Infested matter. During the War, the Sentients would attempt to invade Deimos, a strategically important planetoid. A bio-bomb that contained Infested matter was set off, stopping the Sentient invasion, but releasing an full-on Infestion on Deimos in the process." --Warframe wiki Like...do you even know wtf you're even talking about? ROFLMAO. #disliked

Warframes are naked due to their skin becoming sword steel acording to ballas so naked warframe with aome having floppy metal skin flaps also glowy metal skin

:< D

The warframes are clones of the helminthed person

infested was an organism mutated by the void