Warhammer: The Old World | Dwarfen Mountain Holds | Hopes, Guesses & Predictions

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3 ай бұрын

In this video I explore the Dwarfen Mountain Holds annoucements and what we might see for the full release in Warhammer: The Old World.
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@Mike-er5ws
@Mike-er5ws 3 ай бұрын
The Dwarfs are lookin' really cool, both the new and old minis. At this point I pretty much want to start a small skirmish-sized army of EVERY faction 😅
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
😂 That’s the danger, I could definitely do the same if time and money allowed.
@DerOrk
@DerOrk 3 ай бұрын
My guess for the second army list is something like a Dwarfen expedition force, or maybe trade caravan. Something "nomadic". In the O&G Journal we got a picture of a Grudge Pony mounted on a base (with rules for a scenario battle), and GW has allready revealed Bugman's Beer Cart, so I expect that 2nd army is something that ties into that. A Dwarfen force centred around Rangers and or Miners. It might also be the reason why of all the returning plastics the Miner kit is the one they haven't promoted in pics yet, because the Grudge Pony included in that box will be an actual unit this time around and thats something they wanna reveal / play up at a later date.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
That’s a really good shout, and that would be absolutely brilliant!
@farlanewhitty1149
@farlanewhitty1149 Ай бұрын
Good stuff! Ranger army is my guess - Bugman's brewery before it was destroyed. they are releasing the pony cart... One correction: Ungrim Ironfist's original model is 4th edition - 1993 or thereabouts. New one is before he slew the dragon that made his cloak... I imagine he will have monster killer special rule (or at least someone will or a rune will - it's a pretty wierd gap in the current slayer options!) Second special character could be a younger Thorek Ironbrow- they seem to be selling the furnace and forge assistant along with the Anvil ofDoom, though it doesn't have a role or stats in the new rules.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms Ай бұрын
Rangers would be perfect, and I wonder if that second character could be a Ranger (though Thorek would be ace too). Hopefully not long now until we find out.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery 3 ай бұрын
I share your enthusiasm about the return of the Dwarfs, really looking forward to them coming back! And I think your speculation about an engineers list, perhaps Zhufbar themed, is a strong theory!
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
It would be a very cool way to go, though I’m leaning more towards it being a Rangers (or as someone else has said) an ‘Expeditionary force’ including Rangers. Maybe they could tie it all in.
@Mike-er5ws
@Mike-er5ws 3 ай бұрын
I just have to say it again, your channel is such a gem, just good vibes all around. I'm just devouring all the awesome Old World content you put up, keep up the good work! 😁👍
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Thank you that’s really kind of you to say 🙂
@-Joe--
@-Joe-- 3 ай бұрын
Love me some dwarfs. One of the few armies I kept all my metal. I gave my Ungrim back to my buddy who painted it a couple of years ago. But the old mini was from 4th edition. The best dwarf models Era 😀
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
They’re one of the ranges that I think I’ve loved some minis from each era.
@danthebannerman
@danthebannerman 3 ай бұрын
My big hope is that the Marauder dwarfs are made available again, if only for a short time. They were absolutely beautiful minis. I love both Dwarfs and Empire and those guys deftly sratched both itches at once!
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more, some of my favourite ever minis.
@CherudexGaming
@CherudexGaming 3 ай бұрын
For the second army in the arcane book, we can guess something related to some of the old alternate lists in old white dwarf, something like a Barak Varr army, or a Bugman's surface army, lead by the father of Joseph
@samuelsanders5755
@samuelsanders5755 3 ай бұрын
Thoughts on an almost purely artillery force? Something like the battle of a Hundred Cannons?
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
That would be very cool
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
@samuelsanders5755 That would be interesting for sure
@Wulfseal
@Wulfseal 3 ай бұрын
Slayer focused army seems very likely.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
I think so, and definitely my ‘second’ Dwarf army theme if there is one.
@totalwar69
@totalwar69 2 ай бұрын
I personally love the 6 ed clan warriors dwarfs (like the ones on your sealed box). I have 40 of them fully painted (20 with hand weapons and shielda and anothee 20 with great weapons). Those sculps and that box art are the reason why started collecting dwarfs 20+ years ago
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 2 ай бұрын
That’s so cool, it’s great how a miniature or a set of miniatures can have an effect like that.
@hooliganblack832
@hooliganblack832 3 ай бұрын
I was leaning towards an engineer themed army of infamy after the slayers, mainly due to the new character with a rifle. However, thematically I think traders from Barak Barr would fit better into the setting and tie well with the nomadic orc list. Bugmans representatives (and rangers) would fit with it, as would a wider range of Mercenaries (including cavalry) from other armies than dwarfs can usually take and would probably see them limited on the war machines they can take. In fact, the Bugman Cart would make for an excellent special unit working somewhat like the paymaster did in Dogs of War.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
I love this idea, would be very cool.
@robbyv101
@robbyv101 3 ай бұрын
The Dwarf core choices were split into two boxes: Warrior Units (Longbeards, Great Weapons, Handweapons and Shields); and, Missile Units (Rangers, Crossbows, and Thunderers)
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Ah I remember now, I picked them up as an army set, same this time around as well I think, and the battalion box has both.
@thomasc6684
@thomasc6684 3 ай бұрын
I really hope the metal Hammerers, Ironbreakers and Longbeards from 6th return, even if only made to order. I doubt they will with the 8th plastics being brought over from AOS, but I can hope!
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
I have the same fears as well, especially as those plastics from AOS used to be 8th Ed releases. But I’ll live in hope.
@Kcignatius
@Kcignatius 3 ай бұрын
Theyre mentioned in the Warhammer Community post as returning.
@thomasc6684
@thomasc6684 3 ай бұрын
Where? There’s the line about Longbeards, which is possibly a hint, but I can’t see anywhere something saying those three sets of sculpts are definitely coming back.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
I didn’t see that myself, they mentioned ‘Longbeards’ meaning old gamers I think, but they were also hinting at returning minis at the same time, so could be a big hint even if they didn’t directly say it.
@thomasc6684
@thomasc6684 3 ай бұрын
Yes, that’s what I’m basing my hope on - that Longbeards reference when talking about other models coming on MTO makes me hope, but I strongly suspect it won’t happen or it would have been announced already for hype.
@judgecohen1373
@judgecohen1373 3 ай бұрын
Very good roundup and wish list vid.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙂
@andrewburgoyne4728
@andrewburgoyne4728 3 ай бұрын
I am excited about Dwarfen Mountain Holds. I started a Dwarf army during WFB 8th, but never got to use it. We have a grudge that needs settling, and revenge is a dish best served cold! Does anyone know when the tome and battalion box are expected to release?
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Sadly no dates given as yet. The Orc & Goblin Tribes were announced on 20 Jan (Full Old World launch day), and went up for Pre-order on 23 March, so nearly 2 full months, and their actual release day was 6 April. So 9 weeks to Pre-order, 11 to release. So maybe end of May going in to June? But could be earlier as well, but it’s rarely more than 3 months after something is shown.
@JasonPBury
@JasonPBury 3 ай бұрын
You sound like me. I played dwarfs for decades from the late 80s. Had some lovely old metal models and i sold them all off. Lots of regret! I am now rebuilding my throng, ill make sure i dont sell them this time.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
That’s a very good plan 😅. I’ve assembled 2k (minus the new King model) in plastic for now, but I think I’ll slowly start to re-collect all my favourite metals.
@Andrew-ns3su
@Andrew-ns3su 3 ай бұрын
Love dwarves with their looks & lore. Getting excited great video.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙂
@gregorjohnston3515
@gregorjohnston3515 3 ай бұрын
So glad i kept my dwarf army! I was just over the moon at the reveals and cannot wait for them to come out.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
I love to see your army, have you shared it on your socials?
@MrRussell2020
@MrRussell2020 3 ай бұрын
Cool miniatures. Wayyy too expensive considering production costs for cheap plastic but very cool range.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Sadly GW prices are nearly always the highest in the market.
@user-se3dx9qu8l
@user-se3dx9qu8l 3 ай бұрын
Already have a dwarf army.... need to add to it, of course..... the imperial dwarfs are a must. They were my generals elite bodyguard in 3rd edition. Will be interested to see your finished army.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
It’s great that so many old sculpts are coming back to people either re-buy, or get when they missed first time around.
@Svengar
@Svengar 3 ай бұрын
Super excited for the dwarf release pretty much more than any other faction. The more older metal minis including the Marauder ones would be wonderful. Certainly I would have a preference of the metal ironbreakers etc rather than the plastics but the plastics are also fine. My perfect dream come true would be the non regiment of renown imperial dwarfs being released again but it would seem unlikely I suppose In terms of my guesses for the arcane journal I would go with a slayer army and a ranger force. There was something about how they talked to the static gun line for the standard army that suggests the armies of infamy will be more mobile in nature (for dwarfs anyway lol). I could easily see myself spending quite a bit on this release. Certainly the battalion box, the new characters and lords, goblin hewer and likely more doom slayers (I have three I know for certain but would like more) I know of have metal artillery of I believe each type but who knows there is always room for more I guess 😂
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
I’d really love to see the Marauder range back, that would just be awesome.
@davidpreece1188
@davidpreece1188 3 ай бұрын
My personal feelings are that we'll get a slayer and engineer/Zhufbar army. Love old metal minis and the 6th ed warriors are my favourites
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
The engineer army is definitely a good shout.
@Tulkash01
@Tulkash01 3 ай бұрын
For the armies of infamy Slayers are a given but in my opinion the second one could be themed around the engineering guild (so extra rules for shooting with artillery) or a grudge-band, bringing back the grudge mechanic from 8th edition
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
That would be cool. I definitely think something Ranger based (or as someone else has commented, that but expanded to a sort of expeditionary force, which I love), or engineer based.
@Tulkash01
@Tulkash01 3 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealms rangers would be tricky, because there’s really only one troop that covers that theme while the engineering guild heads quite a lot of troops to expand upon. Besides it would be the opposite of the slayer army in terms of gameplay. If they do engineers I expect them to bring back the extra crew for more accurate warmachine’s shooting. Also, would be great in conjunction with the dwarf tank… if they ever release that!
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
@Tulkash01 Yeah on paper I have to agree I think. Though if it weren’t pure rangers and an expeditionary force, then that opens up not only rangers as core, but also maybe extra miners or something like that as well. Remember they can add units without new models, as have the Border Princes Brigands in the Bret Journal, so they could add a higher level of rangers, almost Ranger longbeards. Who knows 😂, but I think they could do either, and I think id actually like both 😆
@Happilymarrieddad
@Happilymarrieddad 13 күн бұрын
Has Games Workshop cancelled Old World? We haven't had any new releases for several months now.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 13 күн бұрын
Thankfully no, but I think the Dwarfs have been delayed by ‘issues’ and now have to wait until after the AOS 4 launch sadly.
@andrewbakescakes9684
@andrewbakescakes9684 3 ай бұрын
My wish is for new Rangers in the 8th edition style, with knees!
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Could be cool to get new sculpts, I have a feeling it will just be Bugman’s Rangers returning though.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
That would be cool, I think it’s more likely we will just see the old Bugman’s Rangers return though.
@andrewbakescakes9684
@andrewbakescakes9684 3 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealms - Let's hope so! The Sons of Ymir Rangers look great, and I wish GW had some like that.
@jacklyons2088
@jacklyons2088 3 ай бұрын
the prices are quite high, dont have as big of a problem with that as i do the continued lack of stock, everything old world related sells out almost instantly which is disappointing and somewhat tempers the excitement, have wanted fantasy and the old factions to come back since the end times, my army luckily is being supported, although even with money saved to buy all the models i would want seems like it will take months to get an army,
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
It’s certainly a challenge, I hope they can sort it out soon.
@JackFright
@JackFright 2 ай бұрын
Didn't they do airships for dwarves in Age of Sigmar?
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 2 ай бұрын
They do yes, probably not quite the old world aesthetic, but with a few alterations they could be mainly to look good.
@ClydeMillerWynant
@ClydeMillerWynant 3 ай бұрын
Painful seeing your Goblobber as mine has somehow gone missing. Still got the box and all the crew down to the pig on the spit, but no machine to be found. Just as well from my point of view that stonethrowers are not much cop in the new edition, might make the chap with the pipe who sits on the goblin my Engineer and he can supervise something more worthwhile (if only slightly).
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
I think all artillery has taken a bit of a hit, and Dwarfs with them 😬. Funnily enough my guy with the pipe and my chef with pig on spit are know where to be found, I hope your Goblobber turns up.
@ClydeMillerWynant
@ClydeMillerWynant 3 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealms Yes, me too. Likewise I hope your chef and pig reappear. Think the Grudgethrower is the most disadvantaged of the artillery in the new edition - base sizes, return of rolling for partials, no rune of accuracy or whatever it was called. Cannons haven't so much got worse as the things they're best for going after with have been improved beyond recognition. Bolt-thrower is better now, great if you get a flank and don't miss, but then there may not be an awful lot of ranks to shoot through the rest of the time at least of elites and BS3 at long range isn't much good. Organ gun is OK but expensive, flame cannons are what they are. Don't really understand why Dwarf artillery is worse than some other factions' artillery now, could really do with being able to use the Engineer's BS and better runes. I guess the shooting is going to have to come from the infantry instead - Rangers and Irondrakes are obviously very good and of course we have Gyrocopters though it would be nice to think a more traditional Dwarf army could still do well and I mean to find out for better or worse.
@aussie-ff2rp
@aussie-ff2rp 3 ай бұрын
i am hanging out for high elves so much🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully not too long for you
@aussie-ff2rp
@aussie-ff2rp 3 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealms i have seen some posts and heard some rumours they all being released quickly like to get attention fast rather then draw it out and that high elves are for summer so aussie winter....but see what happens i guess🤷‍♂
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
That very interesting, I’d certainly love to see them all out as quickly as possible so the game keeps its momentum, but I also worry about how they could manufacture them all in a short period, they’re struggling to keep up as it is. I’d guess that we see a bit of a gap during the summer for the AOS 4th Ed release as well, but I hope the rumours you’ve heard are right.
@kristofferlinden9852
@kristofferlinden9852 19 күн бұрын
When are they going to release the dwarfs?
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 19 күн бұрын
I wish I knew. There are plenty of rumours about delays to quite a few releases due to stock and logistics issues, and I think there’s probably quite a bit of truth to them. I think the plan was probably to have them released by now, probably earlier this month. I think they’ve been hit by those delays, and unfortunately now have come up against the AOS 4th Ed release, which means they could end up being after that (I hope not).
@kristofferlinden9852
@kristofferlinden9852 18 күн бұрын
@@MiniatureRealms Thank you. 👍
@nikost3596
@nikost3596 3 ай бұрын
i am annoyed by the fact that the dwarf lord with the one handed axe is left handed!! it gives me OCD issues
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
😂
@scoticvsgossage9378
@scoticvsgossage9378 3 ай бұрын
Uther's Dwarf Company is a must purchase for me, I'm overjoyed that they're bringing back really old sculpts in pewter. The only question is what price range are we talking about? I'm betting 60-70 USD for the regular troop, then 20-30 USD for the command
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s tricky isn’t it, the old Bret returning metals might give us a clue.
@scoticvsgossage9378
@scoticvsgossage9378 3 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealms Yeah, perhaps. They only thing with that is the Bretonnians are composed of more material, so maybe that will affect the price as well.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
@scoticvsgossage9378 Very true, let’s hope that’s the case.
@scoticvsgossage9378
@scoticvsgossage9378 3 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealms If not, there are alternate methods of acquiring Uther's Company. eBay, re-casters, etc. Re-Casters are definitely going to be a man's best friend in the age of GW "Made to Order", where the chances of seeing said items again are next to none if you miss them. That's my concern with the Marauder Giant. He's going to be really expensive, offered in a short window, and then gone forever. eBay resellers are going to have a field day.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
@scoticvsgossage9378 I like the MTO business model, yes it’s frustrating when you can’t afford them when they come out and miss them, I’m certainly going to have to make some tough choices I’m sure, but I’m glad they’re back, even if for a short while. I think they probably know in reality that the majority of players will buy the plastic giant that has now been claimed by AOS, even the other one they brought back is more of a nostalgia piece. The eBay resellers might cash in, but it’s no worse than it is now (will be cheaper by far). Recasters will do what they do, that doesn’t really interest me.
@AndyGoodacre
@AndyGoodacre 3 ай бұрын
Everyone seems to have forgotten that the 8th Ed Hammerers kit also makes Longbeards which are the nicest of the 8th Ed range. I do really like the 8th Ed dwarf range, but they really don’t match my 6th Ed minis giving me almost two dwarfs army.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Really good point, so with two plastic options to make Longbeards and metal ones will very likely be on mail order.
@judgecohen1373
@judgecohen1373 3 ай бұрын
Thunderers.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@androsthebloodthirsty8709
@androsthebloodthirsty8709 2 ай бұрын
The dwarfs are cool but the helicopters seems so out of place, its the whole steampunk modernization that put me off from buying AOS dwarfs, they're blegh. I'd still get these dwarfs and just sell the copters
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 2 ай бұрын
I know a lot of people prefer the older Gyrocopters to those 8th edition ones.
@Monddwarf
@Monddwarf 3 ай бұрын
The false direction of design for me. GW's Dwarfs are just requisits, not persons.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
👍
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
👍
@britainbetterthanyou
@britainbetterthanyou 3 ай бұрын
£100 price tag for a battalion box is why the game is dead on arrival
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
I think £100 for 66 models is pretty value for GW, but price is a personal thing really. I’d definitely argue the game is far from dead, it’s constantly selling out, loads of people are playing it. Not everyone will like it though.
@emberpowertcg7692
@emberpowertcg7692 3 ай бұрын
Ubfortunatley it does feel like something that would have to be purchased with a discount, it is a lot considering how much more you would have to add
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 3 ай бұрын
Yeah sadly Warhammer is flipping expensive at times.
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