Was Rhaenyra Targaryen Overweight In The Books?
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11 ай бұрынDid you know in the books Rhaenyra is actually described as being overweight? This short uses evidence from A Game of Thrones, A Clash of Kings, A Storm of Swords, A Feast for Crows, A Dance with Dragons and The Winds of Winter.
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@vehnashur2771 11 ай бұрын
You're underestimating the power of a large bosom.
@Winter-Alpha-Omega 11 ай бұрын
That's right. I've met many men who want a chubby woman.
@shadysorkin9214 11 ай бұрын
@@Winter-Alpha-Omega you probably met the only ones.
@Winter-Alpha-Omega 11 ай бұрын
@@shadysorkin9214 I want a boyfriend with brown hair and soft skin. Pink nipples, too.
@milchbrotchen2930 11 ай бұрын
@@Winter-Alpha-Omegayes same for me. I date 2 really fit Gym guys and they both wanted chubby girlfriends.. the complete Opposite of themself. Also my ex boyfriend prefered chubby even so he had a super slim / muscel body.. Really often guys prefer something else then you would expect 😊
@JG_SmileSOBright 10 ай бұрын
Agreed! A juicy woman has always been attractive 😍
@noah5664 11 ай бұрын
Daemond was a chubby chaser confirmed
@julikroos 11 ай бұрын
Exactly Mysaria was also chubby when she got older
@mattjack3983 11 ай бұрын
Hey now! There's nothing wrong with the big gals with some thickness in the hips and thighs! I mean, I think we can all agree that there is a point where too much is just too much. But I personally cannot fault a man who likes some extra cushion.
@lgt_jne 11 ай бұрын
Fr ahahhaa
@BenedictMotombo-ut4hx 11 ай бұрын
@@mattjack3983chubbies are better pronebone and doggystyle partners i say from experience. Just not too much chubbs.
@egertroos-qh7hw 11 ай бұрын
@@mattjack3983I mean curvy (wide hips) and thick thighs are attractive and curvy has always been viewed as fertile
@gudboah4688 11 ай бұрын
Basically, Rhaenyra wasn’t overweight or even obese, but thicc.
@KingInBlack69 9 ай бұрын
DUMMY THICC
@venomshot2815 8 ай бұрын
He said she grew thick of WAIST. With good fat distribution for someone to be thick the waist should be the last part of the body getting fat
@gabrielly5811 8 ай бұрын
she is overweight, just not obese, u need to interpretate a lil more, nyra is chubby
@fashionkilla00 7 ай бұрын
nah, thick and chubby aint the same buddy 💀
@Rexorazor 6 ай бұрын
Thicc since 14 😏
@abhishankpaul 11 ай бұрын
I won't consider Margaery to use only her looks. She is damn cunning woman
@nom-nomnami1743 11 ай бұрын
Right? when they said "unlike Margaery" I was like excuse me, what? Yes, Margaery does use her looks to get what she wants. But she's cunning about it. Unlike Cersei who thinks she's way smarter than she is and ^actually^ hos around. I think M is only ever accused of sleeping with other guys and it's never actually confirmed that she did?
@abhishankpaul 11 ай бұрын
@@nom-nomnami1743 since she wants to be the Queen, I don't think she would sleep with anyone so easily. Remember, Robert was drunk during the bedding, so there was no possibility of him being conscious about Cersei's maidenhood. While on the other hand, Margaery won't be having a drunkard husband and if she commits fornication, her husband would figure it out and it will cause a huge scandal
@nom-nomnami1743 11 ай бұрын
@@abhishankpaul Right, that's what I was thinking. It's been a while since I've read the books or watched the show. But that's what I remembered. Is that M was flirtatious almost to the point of being scandalous in some cases. But she never slept around.
@SantomPh 11 ай бұрын
Margarey is one of the most beautiful women in Westeros, so her looks affect how people treat her. Unlike Sansa, Arianne and Daenerys she lacks other elements to use in the game so her looks are her primary weapon. Unlike many women in Westeros she has not opened her legs or even her dress to anyone outside of marriage, which is somewhat of an oddity given what she could gain. She may be the only "untainted" women of noble birth.
@molutheartist2730 10 ай бұрын
So was Cersei
@gracerodhouse2695 11 ай бұрын
NOT THE SHOT OF ALICENT’S FEET WHEN YOU MENTION HER LOOKS 😭😭
@hoked2194 11 ай бұрын
I will never forgive the showrunners for that one 😔
@rias.gremoryyy 11 ай бұрын
How us man comparing alicent to cersei when Rhaenyra tried to put bastards on thw throne.. just like cersei.. she destroyed everything in her way to get to the throne.. just like cersei.. she lied to everyone about her kids, just like cersei.. alicent isn't even comparable
@revinaque1342 11 ай бұрын
@@rias.gremoryyyThe difference with Rhaenyra is that her children are Targaryens, even though they weren't of her husband. It was her blood that counted, because she was the royal one. Cersei's children, on the other hand, don't have a speck of Baratheon blood in them, and that's why putting them on the throne was problematic
@Winter-Alpha-Omega 11 ай бұрын
Delicious.
@gloriaregali9090 11 ай бұрын
@@rias.gremoryyyI know right! Aegon was at least smart enough not to drag his bastards on the throne. Jace’s reign would lead to civil was even without the initial Dance of the Dragons.
@lgt_jne 11 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra being overweight actually makes sense since she had many pregnancies lol ,idk why the show is not showing that (i love her lmao😂)
@moinuddinsyed66 11 ай бұрын
Maybe because fans want a good looking protagonist
@laalaa4303 11 ай бұрын
I think the show is starting to subtly show her putting on weight throughout the second part of season one. Emma D'Arcy is defo bigger around the waist between her first appearance and Rhaenyra and her season finale appearance. I thought it was very well done, very subtle and quite accurate.
@PaulCDehlinger 11 ай бұрын
Yea, clearly they wanted to keep the girl boss ascetic regarding Rhaenyra.
@insultlk 11 ай бұрын
@laalaa4303 that was bc she had a miscarriage in ep10
@misternich4935 11 ай бұрын
@moinuddinsyed66 the writers didnt want to they thought she gaining weight in the books was misogynistic or something so they didn't put it in
@SOB98 11 ай бұрын
Becoming a thicc chick does not by any means stop you getting what you want by using your looks, lmao
@roriestill6231 11 ай бұрын
Yep!
@nightfallreviews1533 11 ай бұрын
Yes it does. Men don’t like fat chicks
@OppoRancisis 11 ай бұрын
It actually does by some means, not all, just some.
@lelouchvibritannia8997 11 ай бұрын
there is a difference between thicc and overweight...
@lovinavargas-carriedo2698 11 ай бұрын
I'm thicc and a lady and I got asked out six times last weekend by different men and two women. In-person. There are women way prettier than me who are thicc and you can absolutely be thicc and gorgeously
@arobin6695 11 ай бұрын
I hate that the show writers said it was a misogynistic lie that Rhaenyra could ever be overweight after 6 pregnancies and they were going to dismiss anything like that that could make her look bad
@d4rk5t4r2 11 ай бұрын
Is there an article about this? I’m curious
@raraavis7782 11 ай бұрын
I know. Like...can we please be realistic? Bearing several children in short succession is not likely, to not affect your figure. There's a difference between 'letting yourself go completely' and having a 'thicker waist' or 'more stout' figure after repeated pregnancies. Saying this couldn't possibly have happened to Rhaenyra is misogynistic, because it makes every women this does happen to, sound like a failure.
@lgt_jne 11 ай бұрын
Fr like I'm honestly looking forward to her being cruel...they need to stop making Rhaenyra so masculine too cause Rhaenyra is very feminine (I'm sick of hearing Rhaenyra and Alicent shippers saying Rhaenyra is the man in the relationship ☠️)
@arobin6695 11 ай бұрын
@@d4rk5t4r2 "history is often written by men who write off women as crazy or hysterical or evil and conniving or gold-digging or sexpots. Like in the [book], it says Rhaenyra had kids and got fat. Well, who wrote that? We were able to step back and go: The history tellers want to believe Alicent is an evil conniving bitch. But is that true? Who exactly is saying that?"
@gguktae3502 11 ай бұрын
Being fat isn't something that can 'make her look bad' , and it's weird that they only said this in Rhaenyra's case and not Aegon's who's also described as having a similar physique in the book.
@FLUFFERKINZ 11 ай бұрын
Being thin doesn’t mean attractive, being plump or overweight was actually seen as attractive in women, and a sign of wealth because it meant you could afford to eat well in real life societies.
@Manospondylus 11 ай бұрын
Depends on the culture.
@Elisesiaa 11 ай бұрын
@@Manospondylus in the Middle Ages? Not really or at least I can’t think of any society who thought being thin was beautiful until modern times that is
@shelldie8523 11 ай бұрын
Dudes American. The rest of the world is a bit different
@AtakenSmith 11 ай бұрын
@@ElisesiaaWell you did not pay attention then in history class because it was indeed a thing. There was a statue wich showed a mother goddess which looked really ugly and fat IMO. But that was the sexy. But if you don't consider that because it was so long ago. Google it and you find your proof. You can find art and a 19. Century actress too.
@emackenzie 11 ай бұрын
@@shelldie8523 the US barely even colonized in the time period we're talking about
@user-hs8qn1ly8i 10 ай бұрын
fun fact: rhaenyra, aegon the elder, viserys, & helaena were all called fat (or some nicer variation) in the books, ppl just always seem to remember rhaenyra being overweight. and all of them r just skinny in the tv show 4 no reason ig
@Jhin224 11 ай бұрын
Damn! Rhaen was still a baddie after pregnancies.
@mattjack3983 11 ай бұрын
For sure. I'd still def still hit it. Nothing wrong with some thickness and some extra cushion.
@Jhin224 11 ай бұрын
@@mattjack3983 ma dawg
@fawnieee 11 ай бұрын
@@mattjack3983 considering the time period the story is based on she'd be considered even more beautiful for having extra weight, as larger people were seen as wealthy enough to eat food to the point of gaining weight. Ofc this may not be the case for GRRMs universe, but it's interesting how beauty changes throughout history.
@Shannon-vv6rr 11 ай бұрын
I'd still tapp for the record too and I'm a chick. Still a baddie.... Extra for me 😂🎉
@TheKingTywinLannister 11 ай бұрын
No fat çhićks 🤮
@aleynamutlu4206 11 ай бұрын
Margery in show was not only looks in my opinion she was a good player she knew what she wanted and giving her best to the game with cards in her hand but unfortunately couldn’t calculate what scale maniac Cersei could be. Type of a maniac only a real loving mother can take down. 🦖🦕🦎🐉❤
@shauryashekhar 11 ай бұрын
He told she got men to do things by her beauty like he did with joffrey and tommen. There is a difference. Otherwise even cersei was intellectual.
@summerglace3294 11 ай бұрын
@@shauryashekharMargaery and Cersei are very different strategists. In a severely misogynistic world like Westeros woman are typically viewed for their looks, so it’s not really a bad thing to make that typical disadvantage an advantage. Cersei however uses almost only her looks tho. She is a high level narcissist who is almost childish with insults. She literally filled her council with men who would just tell her how smart she is all day, instead of men who were actually skilled. Cersei basically just sleeps with people to keep them on her side. She sleeps with Jamie, the kettle backs, Euron Greyjoy etc. whereas Margaery uses a more intellectual way of her looks, she changes her behaviour to paint and image of herself that would be most advantageous to her. She paints herself to appear generous and benevolent in front of the people, to make the people love her and want her as their queen. She paints herself as a sweet obedient wife to Joffrey, who also desires to hear about his interests and enjoys his cruelty; in order to manipulate Joffrey to her side. So the big difference between Cersei and Margaery is that Cersei is incapable of truly changing her behaviour even when it would benefit her, instead of persuasion she uses petty threats and straight out insults. Cersei is rigid and temperamental. Margaery is flexible and manipulative. Which is why Margaery would destroy Cersei in the game of thrones if it truly came down to it.
@thalmoragent9344 11 ай бұрын
@@summerglace3294 True. Margery at least had morals as well, which most likely places her above Cersei in the view of many
@mattjack3983 11 ай бұрын
Ceresei definitely used her looks when it would get her what she wanted. She was beautiful and she knew it. She used ALL possible advantages she could muster. She certainly had intellect too tho. Cersei was both smart and intelligent. Much more so Margery. But Margery was by no means dumb. She was just alot younger than Cersei, and lacked the life experience that Cersei had. When it comes down to it, that is what made Cersei an overall better player at the game than Margery was...she was older and more experienced.
@thalmoragent9344 11 ай бұрын
@@mattjack3983 Cersei was also more deranged, and that makes someone very unpredictable. Cersei, as Tywin, Tyrion, and many others have already made clear, isn't as smart as she thinks she is. Cersei blowing up the Sept of Baelor in the show and paying NO consequences for that isn't something anyone could've possibly imagined... cause that's beyond reckless and insane to an insane degree.
@fortheloveofcats2462 11 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra had 3 kids by age 20, yet her kids were kind, humble and smart. She was a child-bride too, and had kids when she was a child herself, yet raised her children better than Alicent. And there are Green stans who refuse to accept Alicent's terrible parenting and blame it on being a young mom.
@dominikadob4311 11 ай бұрын
But Nyra at least had kids with someone she loved and who wasn't her father's age
@BleedingGrafitti 11 ай бұрын
@@dominikadob4311 You still shouldn't be cold to your kids and smack them around just because they remind you of your trauma. It's not their fault.
@MikaelaKMajorHistory 11 ай бұрын
Being young could be a part of someone bad parenting but it’s never ever an excuse. I had my kid at 19 and I refuse to become like Alicent to my kid. Your trauma shouldn’t be passed on to your kids.
@fortheloveofcats2462 11 ай бұрын
@@dominikadob4311 Daemon was only 4 years younger than her father, and book Alicent was 10 years older than Rhaenyra, so the difference between their ages wasn't as much in the show.
@geoffreyokrongly916 11 ай бұрын
You’re using modern standards for historical norms. When a girl can have children, she is no longer a child by any standard. Naive, immature, still developing, and icky; I know. But when the priority is to make healthy babies to keep your species alive, you waste nothing. Our standard for what is an adult today is purely a result of excess resources. If we never made it out of our tribal conditions, even to this day we would be doing the same as we used to.
@stardewfestival 11 ай бұрын
I will not take this Margery slander 😂
@Bassrocker61 11 ай бұрын
She is related to her though.
@raraavis7782 11 ай бұрын
Well, to be fair... Margery never got the chance, to really prove herself in that regard. She was offed, just as she had smiled and manipulated her way to the top. Although the way she dealt with the high Sparrow rather proves, that she was indeed very cunning and resourceful.
@4Tom4lepus4 11 ай бұрын
@@raraavis7782 She manipulated the citizens of Kings Landing without using her attractiveness, just as she manipulated the Faith and, if we're honest, Joffrey without using her attractiveness but rather by relying on her people skills. Idk why they introduced that element to her relationship with Tommen
@juliameyer10313 11 ай бұрын
@@4Tom4lepus4 yes, she was a serious charmer. You don't need to be a known imposing threat like Tywin to make people do what you want. She knew her weapons and how to use it and it was not (unlike what Cersei suggested during the battle of Blackwater) between her legs but in her head. She knew how to make people like her and want to please her
@raraavis7782 11 ай бұрын
@@4Tom4lepus4 Ahhhh...I'd disagree about Joffrey. Did she manipulate him psychologically? Sure. But he wouldn't have taken to her the way he did, if she hadn't been gorgeous. She used her youth, beauty and sex appeal all the time with him. And she did it very deliberately. She had to. It's what he responded to, so she used it, to gain his trust and approval.
@gracieisbored9191 11 ай бұрын
alicent had 4 pregnancies and rhaenyra had like…. 7
@AliceAesthetic-km4wk 25 күн бұрын
Did she lost a child? Why four? Not three
@jyotirani8187 23 күн бұрын
She has 4 children, 3 boys and 1 girl. The youngest, Daeron is the ward to Lord Hightower and is therefore not shown right now in the show.@@AliceAesthetic-km4wk
@laurabrown2982 11 ай бұрын
I think a couple of things need to be considered there. First of all, Fire and Blood is written as a historical text, which means its "written by the winners". Even if Rhaenyra truly had remained bigger after her pregnancies, disparaging comments about her have to be taken with a grain of salt as history's victors would have bad-mouthed her anyway they could. There's also a lot of misogyny written toward any female character that is meant to be perceived as the villain (GRR Martin would have intended this). And again, even if Rhaenyra has remained larger, that isn't to say she would have necessarily been fat and ugly. Even Cersei's body changed (in the books during her walk of shame, the crowd mocked her for her "sagginess", whereas clothed she had been regarded as a beauty. Nudity can be most unbecoming, especially to older women when their skin and curves are less firm). What could have been considered fat could well have been just "normal". Or it could have been untrue. We'll never know for sure!
@iicourtneybear3916 11 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra was the Princess of Dragonstone and King Viserys I's favourite child besides, I'd say she didn't need to be beautiful, precocious or cunning to get what she wanted.
@nicksmithnutmilk 11 ай бұрын
Helaena was his favourite . Viserys spent his last days with Helaena and her 2 children not Alicent or Rhaenyra
@iicourtneybear3916 11 ай бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilk But she wasn't. Rhaenyra was and it's made very clear all throughout Fire&Blood. Rhaenyra was the one Viserys named his cupbearer, she was the one whom he named his heir and wanted to succed him as Queen, furthermore, she was called 'Viserys's little girl' , what more proof do you need? He loved Helaena and all of her brothers, but it was Rhaenyra he truly favoured above them all. Him spending his last moments alive with his grandchildren, Helaena's children, amounts to nothing, since there is nothing unique or special about a grandfather telling stories to his grandchildren, or spending time with them.
@nunyabiznes33 11 ай бұрын
Why do this comment gave me the same vibe as Brienne's septa? 😭
@haleyadams731 Ай бұрын
@@iicourtneybear3916I mean she was the only child who lived from his wife that he truly loved I suppose it makes sense I’m not sure he really loved Alicent the same or his children with her because he was basically forced to remarry someone and it seems he really was only sexual attracted to her
@shygirlcomplex 11 ай бұрын
I’m sorry why is being thicker equaled to being ugly 😂… wth !? .. the Targaryen’s were a really good looking family they hit the genetic Lottery jackpot white hair violet eyes , oozing sex appeal, hot dragon blood. so I don’t think she lost her beauty because she wasn’t skinny
@nom-nomnami1743 11 ай бұрын
Right, plus depending on how petite she was. And it seems like Targaryen women are meant to be visualized as rather petite. Even an extra 15 or 20lbs of post-pregancy weight on a small person can make a huge difference visually.
@Winter-Alpha-Omega 11 ай бұрын
They're not sexy, they're mistified.
@beth_beth823 2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@jjola 11 ай бұрын
you had me at rhaenyra had a large bosom
@samtmh7240 11 ай бұрын
Three teen pregnancies is gonna affect you in the long run, lol. I speak as someone struggling with weight from just one and I was 22. 😭
@venomshot2815 8 ай бұрын
Weight always comes down to calories in calories out. If you burn more calories than you consume it's impossible not to lose weight. What pregnancies could cause however is PPD, which can make a person eat more and therefore gain weight
@chickennicker6778 6 ай бұрын
@@venomshot2815pregnancy changes how the body uses calories. You are technically correct, but when you have metabolic syndrome your TDEE can be like 700 calories under the typical because the body composition utilises less calories. Fat is metabolically less active than muscle and takes less energy to maintain Unfortunately your hunger hormones and brain don't recognise this. Your body becoming more 'efficient' doesn't translate to thinking clearly, having energy etc.
@elvenafae 2 ай бұрын
Wild she had like 7 pregnancies. I’ve had two myself at 27 and gained a little after the second. I was super small prior tho being 108 now 115 consistently. Could maybe loose some weight if I tried but meh
@Samara0-0Ray 11 ай бұрын
People need to stop equating big bodies with ugliness because I much prefer thicker figures personally.
@dksoulstice6040 11 ай бұрын
It's called people have types. Just like you have yours. Lol.
@Damodred_Heiress 11 ай бұрын
@@dksoulstice6040no one said you couldn’t have a type. they said stop equating big bodies with ugliness which you seem to have a problem with.
@tylersmith3139 11 ай бұрын
There's a difference between fat and thick. Thick means you have a big behind and comparative small/smaller waist.
@noxillius1363 11 ай бұрын
Most people dont
@Vffjjtt 11 ай бұрын
Being fat doesn’t mean have big a good health you
@faithmoir1637 11 ай бұрын
helaena was also said to be "plumper and less striking than most targaryens"
@2007VolkswagenJetta 8 ай бұрын
Daemon really said he like them BBWs
@youngveteran6368 11 ай бұрын
“She had to rely on her intellect and cunning” aka daemon, rhaenys, corlys and her sons fighting the war where she actually uses her dragon all but ONCE during the entire dance while she sat by grieving
@dillonmartin7411 11 ай бұрын
It’s why I like Daenerys a whole lot more. At least she lead her armies on dragon back once Drogon was big enough to ride. Well until season 8 episode 3. But I still like her just not as much as Dany.
@andrejasofrenovic3425 11 ай бұрын
Plus them implying that just because Alicient was thin, she used her looks to get people to do what she wanted. In the book, I don't recall her using her looks for anyone other than perhaps Viserys, but I don't see how that is different than Rheanyra charming Daemon or Harwin. Like, it's not like she was actively saducing people into doing her bidding.
@youngveteran6368 11 ай бұрын
@@dillonmartin7411 I prefer Dany pre season 8
@youngveteran6368 11 ай бұрын
@@andrejasofrenovic3425 the books are accounted by 3 sources all whom have biases, but it’s neither here nor there because rhaenyra did a horrible job in securing her future ascending of the throne, not just by 1) having bastards but bastards that stick out like a sore thumb ( in GoT Cersei at least had the plausible explanation for her children having golden hair, in HoTD both the princess and laenor have platinum blonde hair and so do their parents & grandparents 😭) , 2) disrespecting the lords of the realm after they journeyed to try for her hand in marriage (something that’s significant in this universe), 3) marrying daemon didn’t help her either. 4) staying on dragon stone while she should have been touring the continent that she would one day rule as all the Targaryen rulers that came before her did, (preferably on dragon back to signify her strength) . I could go on but to summarize the princess just relied on her daddy making everyone make a promise to her 25 years before he died Alicent on the other hand in my eyes is a pawn in the game of thrones and also I believe she not only acted in devotion to her house but also because if I’m being real with you the fact that rhaenyra’s sons are obviously bastards if they ever wish to rule uncontested alicent and THE KING’s TRUE BORN SONS will have to be put to the sword because THAT IS THE WAY OF THIS UNIVERSE IN THESE TIME PERIODS, as I said before marrying daemon didn’t help with this theory and we all know it Alicent’s sons and grandsons WERE NOT SAFE. These are the motivations for the story all the fat shaming might have been propaganda or not but it didn’t influence anything in the story
@dillonmartin7411 11 ай бұрын
@@youngveteran6368 I believe everyone who actually knew who she was preferred Dany before season 8. Of course book Dany isn’t anywhere near as ruthless as show Dany but honestly I love both versions. I feel like half of danys problems in the books wouldn’t even be problems had she been more ruthless like the show version but Dany is still a child in the books so we’ll see.
@kami7028 11 ай бұрын
This is one of those questions I never thought about. But I'm glad to know more HOTD lore.
@Nik-gc9vl 11 ай бұрын
Honestly I still think they cast this character feature well. Emma D'Arcy while average in actual weight is still clearly a bit stouter and has rounder less gaunt features/ bone structure like Olivia Cooke.
@DarthYoungling 11 ай бұрын
People forget overweight in medieval ages wasn't close to the obese of modern times. I'm sure even overweight she was still beautiful.
@venomshot2815 8 ай бұрын
Depends on the fat distribution. If her stomach gained more fat than her legs she'd still look bad
@JesusChrististheonlyway777 8 ай бұрын
She was thicc not overweight.
@wawaqeqetytyuiui 10 ай бұрын
alicent is so beautiful in the books, they describes her really good and in the serie the actress was perfect, the hair is amazing too
@nitikasood1130 11 ай бұрын
Is the intellect and cunning in the room with us right now?
@leonardohenrique5172 11 ай бұрын
lmao 😂😂
@femalegays 6 ай бұрын
😭😭
@Argos-xb8ek 11 ай бұрын
Thicc Queens ftw
@rachelparradelong 11 ай бұрын
The stereo type of the not so pretty girl being smart and the pretty girl being not as smart is over played.
@KratosGod_Of_War 11 ай бұрын
And it's not even entirely true in the shows case that is
@dareisayit 11 ай бұрын
Yikes. I’m team Black but her not losing the baby weight doesn’t automatically negate her beauty and it’s impact on whether or not she could use it to get what she wanted. If you compare her to someone who barely gained any weight since they were children (the show is cannon), of course she’ll appear bigger. But if we’re going with the history this story was based off of, being thicker was considered better and more attractive back then.
@yalhexander5641 2 ай бұрын
I think the maester that wrote about her in the books were on team green so their recount on history is ever so slightly trying to make her out to be a more villainous character.
@smecclesshwifty8548 11 ай бұрын
Thicc doesn't mean ugly lmao
@notnero5280 9 ай бұрын
Thicc and fat are different.
@smecclesshwifty8548 9 ай бұрын
@notnero5280 nope. One person's veiw of someone being thicc is probably what someone else would call fat.
@smecclesshwifty8548 9 ай бұрын
@@notnero5280 so it's subjective
@notnero5280 9 ай бұрын
@@smecclesshwifty8548 no it’s not subjective at all. It refers to an hourglass type figure.
@venomshot2815 8 ай бұрын
@@smecclesshwifty8548thicc means small waist in comparison to large breasts/ass. Fat means larger belly than behind, I've seen women that don't even weigh that much but their legs are skinny and they have a belly, probably the ugliest body type
@kathleenmccrory9883 11 ай бұрын
I have a cousin who has always been overweight, but it's never prevented her from having as many boyfriends as any other woman. She has a pretty face, a great laugh, and a sense of humor. Men love her.
@ayshagayle 11 ай бұрын
The book was written by a VERY biased maester. So while Rhaneyra may have gained some weight who's to say either didn't act like Cersei did🤷♀️ in an age without gyms only those women with high metabolisms would stay skinny after kids lol. It's tough😅
@SnorriSnibble 11 ай бұрын
You know that people can train and be fit without gyms, right?
@Valentinianist 11 ай бұрын
We have records of queens and ladies like Empress Sissi who took very long walks, watched her diet and rode horses to stay in shape, women in Westeros can do that too (they don’t *need* to, but one would expect a dragon rider can ride horses in the kingswood or something)
@venomshot2815 8 ай бұрын
Most fat people have a high metabolism. It all comes down to calories in calories out but people use metabolism as an excuse
@VoglioLaLuna 4 ай бұрын
@@Valentinianist I agree with your point, but I don’t think Sisi is the best example tbh. She was very active, working out with actual gym equipment daily and dieting to an extreme extent, wich caused her to be quite underweight. She very likely had anorexia
@yannickdrmda5295 11 ай бұрын
It seems like all the 13-14 yo girls in this universe are beautiful... (with a few exceptions that allow them to be ressourceful lol)
@rubaiyattrina183 11 ай бұрын
Margarey was not just only beautiful but she was very smart too. She was really good in studying people. She managed to manipulate Joffrey which even Cersie couldn’t do. In very short course of time she influenced Tommen good enough to put aside Cersie. And if anyone carefully observe the moments of her captivity in the dungeons of the sparrows its obvious that she never actually accepted the faith and all she did is to protect & save the Tyrrell's from faith militants. She seeking in that small piece of paper with rose emblem in the hands of Lady Olenna was actually a signal for her understand that she's doing all this for her family as the sigil of house Tyrrell is a blooming rose & their words is "Growing Strong". She played the game of thrones very well. She was the first one to realise the unnaturalness of the sept & she warned about it too. It was the humble arrogance & pride of power of that high sparrow that got her killed.
@johnysnoww3831 11 ай бұрын
If i had to pick between the younger Rhaenyra or the older actor of her, i would go with the older one. And i think she is more pretty than alicent.
@sahiljindal7021 11 ай бұрын
Tv Rhaenyra isn’t like the book Rhaenyra. She’s much nicer and beautiful
@johnysnoww3831 11 ай бұрын
@@sahiljindal7021 But i like TV-series Rhaenyra anyway once she is a grown woman.
@femalegays 6 ай бұрын
finally, someone who doesn't like little girls 😭😭
@gloriaregali9090 11 ай бұрын
I mean six children… Haelena was overweight as well. Plus Viserys’ genetics.
@DarkKing009 3 ай бұрын
Haelena came in clutch she started that Riot in Kings Landing, and help kill the dragons in the pit
@troublemaker833 11 ай бұрын
I honestly kind of despise this narrative for multiple reasons. 1) Women using their looks in a patriarchal, capitalist society is the equivalent to men using their money (something that is also distributed in unevenly and likely inherited, especially considering Westeros‘ rigid social structure). However I always get a sense that while using your looks is seen as a sign of weakness, using your money is somehow admirable. (Uhh, he knows which people to bribe. What a sign of political prowess.) 2) Margery and Cersei are political powerhouses (and Margery at least in the books wasn’t even described to be that beautiful e.g. when compared to Sansa). They are master manipulators both of powerful men and in Margery‘s case also of the common folk. To attribute their success to their looks is just disrespectful. 3)Nowhere, not once do the books state that Rhaenyra was somehow ugly because of her additional weight and also breaking the conflict of Rhaenyra and Alicent down to „Oh no, she was jealous of her good looks“ seems like an oversimplification and slander added to the reports on the dance later to make Rhaenyra look bad.
@arjandosanj6131 11 ай бұрын
No one is reading all that
@alexpiperhalliwell 8 ай бұрын
@@arjandosanj6131I did and I agree with that person. All povs of f&b bodyshame Rhaenyra like her gaining weight is bad, compare her to Alicent who had 4 pregnancies to Rhaenyra's 7. Its crazy that those same povs forget that Viserys was chubby and Heleana was plump but hey lets mention Rhaenyra's weight to antagonize her.
@arjandosanj6131 8 ай бұрын
@alexpiperhalliwell difference is Rheanyra is litteraly a parody of the Queen of Hearts her weight is part of her comically evil look plus its not baby weight when you're as lazy and craven as she was
@cobycoba 2 ай бұрын
Smooth brains always without question seem to be able to drag the word capitalism into everything.
@denisegreppi5983 9 ай бұрын
This obsession on her weight is beyond ridiculous.
@CW-rx2js 20 күн бұрын
Exactly! All Martin focuses on is beauty for his female characters...his books are so misogynistic
@melissaisloud7404 10 ай бұрын
She had at least six pregnancies. It’s to be expected.
@greenforce68 11 ай бұрын
Pay attention of how they described Rhaenyra. They always put her in something to be hated for. As she was the most horrible and unfit to rule. The language they deliver for Rhaenyra sound misogynistic. They keep bringing out her body and her motherly persona to be mocked. As it was a message to always choose men to be your leader bcs women are not fit to rule. But if Daemon Targaryen declare that you're the most beautiful woman, then you must be the most beautiful. But if he declare the sheep are prettier than you, cheer up. Bcs it doesn't mean you're ugly
@DarkKing009 3 ай бұрын
Daemon Targaryen Prince of Grooming
@CW-rx2js 20 күн бұрын
Yes it's always about the body for the women....in Martin's books. I also don't like the way he writes female characters
@PlaynJayne 11 ай бұрын
Margaery was a cunning TACTFUL person. And I resent anyone saying it was mostly looks. Especially when I believe the books didn't speak of Margaery as a high beauty. Also, who said she couldn't be fat and beautiful? Fat and desirable?
@yalhexander5641 2 ай бұрын
Agreed! Margaery isn't even noted as that pretty in the books she is just wicked smooth. Trained by the Queen of Thorns on how to manipulate to play the game. She was so damn cool, I legit wanted Joeffery to live just so I could keep seeing Margaery manipulate him. Oh my god her scenes where the best in the show too.
@v1olante 11 ай бұрын
But the historical records are pretty unreliable. It's possible they have overblown it
@Solalola11 11 ай бұрын
True, but it's not totally out of the realm of possibility that having multiple kids in a short amount of time would affect a woman's body.
@v1olante 11 ай бұрын
@@Solalola11 oh I absolutely agree, in fact I think our society sometimes puts too much pressure on women to lose weight after pregnancy. I just think that anything from 'Fire and blood' book should be taken with a grain of salt, since GRRM himself confirmed it's just historical records that aren't 100% true
@emackenzie 11 ай бұрын
Honestly I'd say Alicent never losing her figure is more likely to be unreliable, but every body reacts to pregnancy differently
@krayt2216 11 ай бұрын
There's still a difference between being overweight and fully-obese, just a reminder before some start claiming that she's a 150kg plus-size model.
@Riimaachan 10 ай бұрын
Daemon be like: "mhmmmmmm my niece looking kinda thicc" 👁️👄👁️
@iamb34 11 ай бұрын
I mean she could’ve been overweight or just thick at her hips cuz it said waist and it is situated in a medieval age, but that doesn’t mean she wasn’t still the most beautiful. She was a Targaryen after all and they were known for their beauty. I don’t like that but much. I mean Rhaenyra is actually more beautiful than Alicent in every sense
@emperorRRI 11 ай бұрын
Fat , chubby and skinny she was always described as the most beautiful
@DarkSHadowI8 11 ай бұрын
The records are written by maesters who liked the greens (Alicent) more and probably painted her in a better light just as they painted Rhaenyra as fat. No one knows that as the records were also written years after the DoD! So it is up to the readers what they prefer and imagine. Some prefer show Rhaenyras looks, some book Rhaenyras looks and there is no problem with it!
@liamjm9278 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like cope.
@rocktheconqueror6903 11 ай бұрын
@@liamjm9278more like truth
@liamjm9278 11 ай бұрын
@@rocktheconqueror6903 No.
@Kaboomboo 11 ай бұрын
I think Margarey being reduced to "because she was hot" undermines her character. She is extremely astute and knows to use what she was given to her advantage. She knows she's attractive and she knows how her looks can play a role in her ambition. Aside from being attractive, she is educated and cunning and knows how to read people and give them what they want. She also has the wherewithal to know her position is always precarious. Cersei isn't like that at all. Cersei knows she's beautiful and has a high status. She is deluded into thinking she'll always have her way because men will fawn over her looks or be intimidated by her. It's a rude awakening for her when Rhaegar doesn't pay her much heed and instead goes for the "less pretty" Lyanna Stark, as did her late husband. It's doubly harsh for her as she gets older she couldn't seduce Ned Stark nor corrupt the Faith. And all of her seductions later in life were a result of her being in the position of power to make them do so, not because she's hot. She also didn't seem to understand how precarious her position in court was either because her status fell apart very quickly in the books when she's literally jailed for her own doings and her "looks" couldn't save her. So no. Margery's ascent doesn't always hinge on her looks, but her ability to play the role of whomever she's in the room with.
@coldhands2802 11 ай бұрын
Oh Cersei def used her body to get her way. Kettleblack twins, anyone? And moonboy for all I know. Don't remember Margaery doing that..
@zaja2418 11 ай бұрын
Helaena is also supposed to be both less pretty and plumper than your average Targaryen, so there is that, too...
@marikookie9004 11 ай бұрын
Haelena's actress is a little on the thicker side, but still cute. They should and could make Rhae look slightly chubby.
@l.b.2592 11 ай бұрын
The artist imitates the famous photo of Sophia Lauren and Jayne Mansfield with Alicent and Rhanyera.
@l.b.2592 6 ай бұрын
I find this hilarious 😂
@AbdullahSediqi23 12 күн бұрын
Her poor dragon having to carry a hefty CHONK
@MR.ZAYI1991 11 ай бұрын
What Intellect and Cunning?? She didn't do anything but personally fail at everything during the Dance. It if wasn't for Jace, Rhaenys, Daemon ans Corlys she wouldn't have lasted till even the midpoint of the War. She was a horrible ruler who made all of her allies abandon her, even her own uncle/husband, Daemon, got fed up and left her.
@sanjaykarthicks1226 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the show will change that and make Rhaenyra an active participant in the war
@KratosGod_Of_War 11 ай бұрын
@@sanjaykarthicks1226they probably will they love her on the show
@nicksmithnutmilk 11 ай бұрын
I think Daemon dies before Rhaenyra
@nileverdeen3797 11 ай бұрын
That's R.R martin's sexism
@MR.ZAYI1991 11 ай бұрын
@nileverdeen3797 Not sexist at all. She was grieving her father's loss and and half of the realm turning against her. Then she lost her daughter and then Luke, followed by Jace and Viserys. She was consumed by grief and got paranoid and and started turning against her allies. I mean she never did anything to further strengthen her relationship with the lords in the first place since she assumed they would just bend the knee once it was her time to rule and took themn for granted and just isolated herself on Dragonstone. Not to mention parading her bastards in plain site of everyonen. Or marrying her uncle, someone that was hated by most of then realm, so quickly after her husband's death. She showed signs of not being a good ruler even before the Dance started and later proved to everyone that she indeed wasn't. Pretty sure if it was Rhaenys, The Queen Who Never Was, ruling the realm as she should've, the realm would be in a much much better shape.
@sufiahempire7364 11 ай бұрын
"had to use her intellect" what intellect? She literally begged her corpse of a father to defend her. Don't shade Margaerey like that
@thalmoragent9344 11 ай бұрын
On gawd
@FunFilmFare 11 ай бұрын
She did persuade her father to fire Otto
@PM-od9qm 6 ай бұрын
She literally tried her best to stop the war on so many accounts and maintain a healthy relation. Like it was a genious proposition for her to offer jace's hand to heleana , not only did they both adore eachother , it would have truly been power balanced for both the blacks and the greens , Helaena being the queen of the seven kingdom while jace being the king and providing aemond with an egg from Syrax which wouldve prevented him from going power hungry and crazy over a dragon . she was so level headed ,ahead of her time and was able to see all the arising problems that could blow up which makes it all the more frustrating that she couldnt do anything about it after trying so hard to avoid it . If only Alicent wasnt just a blinded smothering witch over her children
@ana.baglay 10 ай бұрын
You telling me Cersei is no cunning or smart woman? I’m a book, probably, but not in a show
@parsashojaei1352 11 ай бұрын
And doing both is completely fine. Women can use their looks as well as intellects. It's a choice and there's no such thing as "more impressive".
@thomasfenn9017 11 ай бұрын
so *chronically* written by a man. that a female character relying on anything but looks is unheard of unless she's heavier, which only works under the assumption that heavier women are unattractive? the fact that we're even framing this as a noble sentiment for the author to have done.
@generalsaurkraut3227 11 ай бұрын
In the medieval society that ASOF is a chubby woman was considered more attractive as that indicated health so it would actually be consistent that she is considered attractive.
@srushtishinde3852 11 ай бұрын
First of all even if Rhaneyra gained weight she'd still look pretty cuz she is a Targaryen and they are god like
@anitakennally699 10 ай бұрын
People you need to remember the the book was a historical recount written by people who were sympathetic to the greens who depicted Rhaenyra in a misguided light. The show is in Rhaenyra's historical account which is more accurate.
@Lumosnight 11 ай бұрын
I mean, Rhaenyra was the heir of the throne, of course she didn’t need to rely on her looks because she got everything she wanted on a silver platter. Alicent had to fight to stay in power, which is more impressive to me.
@NotreDanish 11 ай бұрын
It actually makes complete sense for a royal like her to have been overweight since that was basically a status symbol in the time period GoT is inspired by
@brodyestes2376 6 ай бұрын
I like to think that rhaenyra was actually just thicc but shes described as overweight and chubby because Westerosi beauty standards were you had to be paper thin
@user-uz7gg6is5i 5 ай бұрын
Alicent and me were looking at the same damn things of rhaeneyra
@JezusFrank 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Yes, in books.
@GinervaWeasleyPotter 11 ай бұрын
Margaery if often described as being pretty but not beautiful. People tend to over extend her beauty after she is betrothed to Joffrey. Cersei immediately dismissed her as the woman in her prophecy to overthrow her, as that person is described as more beautiful than Cersei, and Margaery definitely isn’t that. Besides, her main asset isn’t beauty, or else Sansa and Cersei would also get there way all the time. She is more complex than that. And honestly reducing her successes to “she’s hot” is kind of insulting to the character
@girli-with-an-i 8 ай бұрын
One is fictional and both are long dead, but imagine Cleopatra and Rhaenyra ever somehow meeting and like working together, it’d be so cool
@white_oracle7060 11 ай бұрын
Loving the Chiba versions of Viserys Rhaenyra and Alicent
@MonachusRex 11 ай бұрын
they're trying to make her all good cute in the show lol
@merykhan97 11 ай бұрын
Again , something disregarded by the show .
@merykhan97 11 ай бұрын
@@blabla187the first time we got a glimpse of adult Rhaenyra was in ep06 i believe when she was giving birth to her 3rd child . Meaning they wouldn't need to make anyone gain weight. There are countless actresses who would fit the role . But that was not my point . I said the show disregarded this in order to paint Rhae as the spoiled little brat that got everything simply for her beauty. Unlike Alicent, that's not true . Many houses were extremely loyal to the Dragon Queen and honored their oaths
@Matt-the-Wise 10 ай бұрын
You can tell which is the true Targaryen. It's true about them, whenever a Targaryen is born it's always a coin flip: you either get a deranged lunatic or a cunning warrior, never in between.
@mrninery4318 11 ай бұрын
Who doesn’t like a Little cushion for tha pushin
@ryansmith8345 11 ай бұрын
So...... her brother's dragon had a lot of meat to chew 💀
@Medvelelet 11 ай бұрын
Sunfyre didn't need 6 bites because he was dying and wasn't hungry, he needed six bites because that girl was L A R G E
@ryansmith8345 11 ай бұрын
@@Medvelelet I'd like to think of her as not "fat".... but more like a "pawg" lol 😎
@gauthamjay3285 11 ай бұрын
I didn't remember her using much of "intellect " or "cunning" in the books on the contrary every decision she took seemed stupid
@aengusog3415 11 ай бұрын
True but I have no doubt that they’re gonna whitewash rhaenyra into making her a smart badass in season 2
@AnarexicSumo 11 ай бұрын
@@aengusog3415Honestly I hope they do. She’s dreadfully boring in the book and doesn’t really drive anything by her actions - only inaction. I wouldn’t really call it whitewashing, just making her character actually worth paying attention to.
@liamjm9278 11 ай бұрын
@@AnarexicSumo How does making a character smarter make them more interesting?
@toannguyen1998 11 ай бұрын
@@liamjm9278Because making a character more active is always more interesting for a protagonist?
@liamjm9278 11 ай бұрын
@@toannguyen1998 Being smarter doesn't make you more active.
@springroll3800 11 ай бұрын
Being fat doesn't mean being ugly,actually I've met plenty of chubby girls super pretty and dressed amazing and lots of skinny girls who looked like a homeless dude.
@LymphaticSystem-of3vn 10 ай бұрын
cope
@springroll3800 5 ай бұрын
@@LymphaticSystem-of3vn Cope with what? Your stupidity? Mh,not gonna do that honey,get laid,you need it.
@nate8604 11 ай бұрын
This makes Rhaenyra more attractive in my eyes. Love thick women.
@manwithnoname9709 11 ай бұрын
In the books Alicent never uses her looks to get what she wants
@teamblack204 11 ай бұрын
Margaery is different than Cersei and Alicent. Not only that she's kinder, but also because she can use her intellect as well.
@leogad669 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say Rhaenyra used much wit. She just had a dragon and a claim.
@raydaveed 11 ай бұрын
She just got a different audience with her thickness that's all 😂
@ZolPsyko 11 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra thicc confirmed
@revanius2213 11 ай бұрын
That not something you'd see in any show
@puurfectlysplendid 5 ай бұрын
The hightower is the ancestor of Tyrell. A little relation there. Although Margarey was smart, and Alicent is a lot more emotional driven.
@ThePointlessBox_ 9 ай бұрын
“The actual Intellect and cunning”: Daemon and his dragon threatening anyone who went against her
@hannotn 11 ай бұрын
Does Cersei use her looks? That's not something I remember being a large part of her character, in either the books or the series. In fact, she rarely uses subtle means, preferring bullying and terror.
@lorenagarcia3189 11 ай бұрын
She didn't need her looks because she has her daddy, Daemon and Syrax also😂😂
@Nenernener123 10 ай бұрын
It’s annoying that people are complaining about this but no one complains about Viserys dying of obesity & its comorbidities!
@MartieMewMcBoltund 3 ай бұрын
One thing to consider is the perspective of the book. It’s written as an in universe history text by a historian long after the Dance of the Dragons ended. If you know anything about, say, the Wars of the Roses (that thing that inspires so much in Martin’s books) you’ll know that physical descriptions that might be unflattering to someone who lost the war and written long after are not entirely trustworthy. That needs to be kept in mind for a lot of what happens in Fire and Blood.
@kappapride4551 11 ай бұрын
intellect? she has none
@anikethchakraborty3238 11 ай бұрын
Intelligent and cunning ? 🤡
@ayiza8511 10 ай бұрын
Of course Deamon declared her the most beautiful maiden in the land he wanted in her pants and on that throne. Gotta flatter her when she’s still young
@ZOCCOK 10 ай бұрын
Bruh, every uncle declares their niece to be the most beautiful maiden in all the seven kingdoms 😂
@tonyjunior-thefirstgentlem410 11 ай бұрын
Alicent never killed anybody, never lied to anybody and has served the realm and the Targaryens despite them being awful people to her!
@nela3986 4 ай бұрын
Wonderful. You know what you should do next? A short about men and the relevance their weight has.
@heartsmyfaceforever8140 11 ай бұрын
They all relied on the tools at their disposal. If you have wit you don’t have to rely on looks. If you have beauty and that works for you, use it.
@asisfernandes5874 8 ай бұрын
Now i understand the reason why they chose a thick actress like Emma Darcy. I love her as rhaenyra and i think that she portrays rhaenyra perfectly because of her body type and im happy that the show stuck to the books and shows us a thick girl without portraying her as ugly which we rarely get to see. In short i would not want rhaenyra any other way. YOU SLAYYY IN YOU'RE OWN WAY QUEEN 💅👑✨️
@arthemysia 7 ай бұрын
Are you out of your damn mind man? In which universe Emma Darcy qualifies as "thick" wake up jfc 😂 Yall delusional as hell
@ljss6805 11 ай бұрын
Not just her looks. Her feet too.
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