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Teenage girl needs to pee, doesn't want to seem gross to her friends or be teased forever, steps far enough off the trail that her friends are definitely not going to see her. Gets lost. Makes it to the road, decides to hitchhike home.

i’d be pissed if somewhere was named after my bald head

I liked the addition of a little icon on the map when discussing how they moved! Very small but nice addition that helps my slow mind comprehend lmao

My immediate thought on this case. She suddenly hurried ahead from her friends. Stopped to take a break and then suddenly veered off the trail. That girl had to pee. I'm guessing she stepped off the trail because she desperately had to relieve herself. Either the rest of the students had passed by the time she finished or she purposefully let them all pass because she didn't want them to guess what she'd been doing. Then without the group to follow when she left returned to the path she ended up going to whatever parking lot was scented by the dogs. She attempted to hitchhike home assuming her bus had left without her and met a bad end, possibly ending up trafficked.

"We saw her near rhe highway" "No you didn't, I was just there" Thats sus to me

I want to get a dog named J. Edgar now and makes jokes about he has to have his nose in everyone's business, lol

my hypothesis is that she somehow got lost, found the road, asked a driver for a ride back to the parking lot , but was abducted. this story still doesn’t make a lot of sense tho. also, i find it kinda wild that the school would allow them to go on this trail when three young people had gone missing and not found alive on that trail in the past seven years. or maybe i’m just too cautious when it comes to safety lol

Isn't it impressive how many SAR folks always turn out (in all conditions) to find a poor lost soul? Always gives me hope for the human race.

Strange coincidence, I just walked down from clingmans dome and I'm browsing KZfaq and see this

i feel like we really glossed over the boy who tried to break in to “see” her and then said he was gonna kill her??? not even to say that he for sure did it… but like wtf

Anyone else think she was in a rush bc she had to use the bathroom? Then maybe decided to go off trail and pee in private? Bc thats the only reason i personally would rush ahead of friends and also go off trail during a field trip. Maybe, she got lost after that?

I know it’s possible they explored all these sightings and decided they weren’t her but it really really bothers me how someone reported a crying girl on the trail and they didn’t even check the trail it was on. That’s so terrible even if it wasn’t her.

8:47 super appreciate the walking markers to show where searches are going along trails... just saying going north along xyz trail doesn't help the imagination..having visuals along trails is just perfect thank younfor the effort!❤

Where I live, the phrase “the Y“ means a specific place where two main roads merge together on way to Show Low.

As a former teenage girl, I feel like I should comment something that you, being a former teenage boy, probably had not thought about: periods. If the location that she was seen veering out into was accurately reported, then there might be some reasons she would go into the bush. One primary reason being privacy. From your telling of the events it sounds like Trenny Gibson was most likely in search of someplace to relieve herself. The mention of a shortcut may or may not have been said to cover up that she had to relieve herself in the woods. That is something a teenage girl would not want others to know that she had to do. If only to fight off potential nicknames and teasing in the future. While reliving herself, or shortly thereafter, she may have discovered that her period (i.e. her menstrual cycle) had started early. It wouldn't be the first time hiking a mountain caused a period to start early. She probably didn't have a purse or backpack with her-please, someone correct me if I'm wrong-since this was a field trip. She probably didn't have any menstrual products on hand regardless of having a bag or not due to it coming early. Gibson could have been on a period already and her menstrual flow increased due to the change in altitude, which may have still led to potential bleed through. Again, being a girl, I know the feel of shame and embarrassment whenever my period bleeds through my clothes. She may have been facing a similar situation. Thus, here is one possible scenario to consider. Trenny Gibson, who was a 16 year-old teenage girl, could have suddenly found herself on her period while in the woods. And, most likely without any feminine pads or tampons on hand, she spends several minutes thinking what to do. She may or may not have been suffering from menstrual cramps as well. If she did suddenly suffer menstrual cramps she might have been unable to move or walk for several minutes, or longer. She may or may not have fashioned a makeshift feminine pad out of something on hand. She probably did take off her outer shirt and tied it around her waist, using it to cover anything that may have spotted through. This is something lots of girls and women do when a period comes early. I do realize the temperature that day was very cold being in the 30's, yet I can still reasonably see her doing such a thing if it kept her modesty covered. (I've been there myself as well as other women. I've had to take off my jacket and use it in such a way when it was in the 20's. Thankfully, it was in civilization, but still a teenager probably went with protecting her modesty or preventing embarrassment over keeping warm.) Trenny Gibson may have purposefully waited until her schoolmates had past her, so she wouldn't be seen by them leaving the bush and getting back to the trail, not wishing anyone to guess what had happened. (Think of the embarrassment kind of thing.) Gibson may have gotten turned around, or couldn't get back onto the trail, or she endivered to actually use a shortcut through the woods. Gibson may have gone the way or path the dogs indicated. She may not have been "seen" in the public places due to simply having her outer shirt tied around her waist, changing her description slightly. Gibson may have gone to the wrong parking lot, and wrongfully concluded that the bus had already left without her. With no access to a phone, she probably decided walking back home was her only choice. Or, walking to someplace that did have a phone where she could then call her family to come pick her up. That is one scenario. Granted, one based entirely on conjecture, but it might explain why she went off the path.

Honestly your critiques of David Politis (sp?) and paranormal investigations writ large are what keep me coming back. They're honest reflections, and you rarely overcommit to an idea without solid evidence

Some people might be critical but I love the Palides smack downs. Misinformation in cases like this can be harmful, and at least how he presents so much is less than ideal. Also the cluster style you’re doing now is great. Makes things easier to follow

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I have been literally waiting for you to take a look at the Trenny Gibson case. I’ve spent a lot of time in the Smokies and I love Clingman’s Dome . Trenny’s case has always stood out to me and unsettled me. If you’re interested there’s a more recent Clingman’s Dome case where in fall of 2018 a 53 year old woman name Mitzie and her 20 year old daughter were hiking Forney Ridge, which is a trail that begins in the Clingman’s Dome parking lot. It’s just shy of 2 miles of fairly moderate terrain that descends about 400 feet and leads fo Andrews Bald. The two were returning from the Bald and after hiking for about a quarter mile, with a remaining 1.6 miles to go before reaching the parking lot the daughter decided to separate from her mom and hike ahead. This was because she was a faster hiker and wanted to return to the parking lot and have time to then do the short hike to the top of the Dome tower. They agreed to meet up in the Clingman’s Dome parking lot when both were done. The daughter reached the lot, proceeded hike to the top of the tower and down again but when she returned to the parking lot her mother was nowhere to be found. It took about a week of searching to find her. When they did, she has died of hypothermia and her body was found in incredibly thick and dense vegetation down a steep creek drainage. So dense in fact that her body had to be removed via helicopter.

The pup howling in the background to the siren was so adorable. Haha.

I would be about Trenny's age and remember having a star sapphire ring and at that time, it was only maybe 100.00. Alot in the 70's but not crazy money...alot of girls had these. Very popular.

One thing you failed to mention that does not support the runaway theory is the fact that the teacher did not disclose where they were going until they were on the bus. However her mother originally was going to be a chaperone but then baxked out at the last minute so she could have known where they were going and told her daughter.

I’ve been waiting legit watched all your stuff over the past week. Can’t get enough of it. Highly considering joining your patreon would be the first time I’ve ever done that.

I am a lifelong resident of Buncombe County. Kudos on getting the pronunciation just right!

As someone who had horrible bowel issues, i can see where shed need to get off the trail asap and tried to be sly or tried to hide that fact by making it seem like she was going to do something else. Not sure what would have happened after that, but whoo does bathroom emergencies and self consciousness make you do strange things.

what bothers me a bit is the part were one of the searchers says he passed a crying girl on the road while driving but didnt think to stop and talk to her, instead carried on driving

I'd be really keen to see what you make of the Madeline McCann case, your great investigators and have an amazing team.

I literally live in Knoxville, have for years, drive past Bearden High School several times a week, and lived in East Tennessee my ENTIRE 33 years of life... never heard this one.

There’s nothing wrong with being skeptical about the David. Especially when there’s sometimes evidence that appears out of nowhere. He does seem to have a habit of it. Especially when he apparently takes from other sources who don’t provide sources for certain claims.

As someone else pointed out, based on the comment that she seemed in a hurry to leave, I'm inclined to believe that she wanted to go to the bathroom. Got off trail to do her business privately, that either took a while because things are like that somethimes, or she got a little lost, enough time for the whole group to pass her location. Granted, I don't know how could she had reached the area the dogs picked up the scent without recognizing the trail she left in the first place, but the anxiety of going to the bathroom in the woods and then getting lost might have been enough for her to miss the right turn and continue past it. Then, she could have reached the road, and run into the wrong bastard- therefore being abducted. A very unfortunate series of events. I'm inclined to believe there is a good amount of chance that someone picked her up from the road after getting lost, and that person is the reason she never turned up again.

Why should David Paulides be exempt from peer review? David Paulides KZfaq channel and comments section give me cult vibes.

Growing up, my grandpa called Clingman's Dome, Clenchman's Dome.

I recently started going through your channel and already exhausted the catalog so Im hyped for something new.

I'm from this area, and "the Y" was almost definitely referring to the townsend wye

From what I've heard the class had no idea where their field trip was going until the teacher announced it when they were leaving. She would have no way to tell anyone ahead of time to meet her there to meet up with them. Unless someone followed the bus from the school parking lot all the way to Clingmans Dome...which i believe was a 45 min trip...no one knew where this class was going that day for her to make plans to run off with someone. And of all days to plan this, a school field trip seems way harder than just sneaking out of school, after school or sneaking out of your house to run off...why do it on a school field trip and bring none of your belongings, money or anything with you if it were planned? Also, the boy her mother shot from what i remember was a black student who was obsessed with her and broke into their house. But teachers and students all gave him an alibi that he was in school that day and never left for any significant amount of time to get to clingmans dome, harm her, hide her body, then return to the school with no one noticing he was missing from classes that day. If she went off trail where the kids said she did why did none of the search dogs track that path? They all tracked her scent at the bottom of the path by the dome going off in another direction. My only guess is she went into the woods, possibly to use the restroom, got turned around and lost, found her way to a road and asked someone for a ride either to the parking lot where her field trip was meeting up or to a phone to call home...but someone probably saw a young girl crying, lost, panicking, and vulnerable and took advantage of the situation. My guess it was a crime of opportunity and she was either abducted off the side of the road or trusted that person to help her and she was taken out of the area immediately and harmed unfortunately.

Thank you for adding the little moving icons on the map! It's such a small thing, but I've always struggled to follow routes! 😂

Thank you so much if it weren't for these regular uploads I don't know how I'd survive in this factory ¹

So, I was just at Cligman's dome/cherokee etc.....those forests are absolutely impenetrable and the tops of the hills covered in trees so if you get lost with zero outdoors experience you will be wandering. If she didn't leave on purpose....my guess is she left the group to go into the bushes to use the restroom. You may even mention a shortcut so you don't have to tell someone you really gotta go. Then she falls and hits her head and passes out for a while. When she comes to there's no one around and is disoriented, concussed, and wanders further into the forest getting impossibly lost further away and dies eventually. Or that same thing happens and she finds the road and is picked up by the wrong person. Side note: the 70s was absolutely wild and like a 30 year old and high schooler was not looked upon super favorable but def not unheard of. My parent's gym coach literally got a student pregnant, got married to her, and kept his job as a teacher. Insanity back then.

Another great job citing original sources and following up on avenues of investigation that might have been overlooked at the time. Keep it up Aidens!

Seems to me she had to go to the bathroom. She then wandered off the trail in order to get far enough away to not be seen by her classmates to avoid embarrassment. She probably got confused as to which way the trail was, panicked and then traveled further away from the trail. She either got hurt in her panic or died from exposure in the following days. It seems to be a stretch that she made it to the road and then some other unfortunate event befell her.

Thanks for little animations and icons. I know it’s probably a bit more work but it helped me follow along better when ever the map came up. 👍🏻

ngl every time I've heard of this story and how she supposedly went off the track my first thought is "oh she needed to pee"

I've been studying this story for 20 years and honestly I think she went off trail, either due to confusion or needing to pee, and got lost. I've almost gotten lost in that area of the park myself.

I came very close to (accidentally) dying hiking from a slip on a rock in Forney Creek in 2002, just south of the Dome. It was a very simple slip that lead to a ~75' slide down the mountain and into a pool. I'm still not sure to this day how I escaped with only minor injuries. I share this anecdote to illustrate how an experienced backpacker, doing something innocuous (like just walking along) could sustain a serious injury. Additionally, the present day park is extremely dense, and it's easy to lose sight of the trail, other people, etc, and it's unlikely that it was that different 50 years ago. It's likely, to me at least, that she possibly sustained a fall or got lost and then died of exposure.

This one hits me because she and I are the same age -- her and friends' yearbook pucs look like mine. So here's my thought: I wonder if she unexpectedly got her period and, out of embarrassment, hid in the brush off trail until she could figure out what to do. If her female friends were too far ahead to ask for a pad, she might've stayed in the brush, embarrassed, afraid, and then ... got too far behind. It seems silly, but it's impossible to describe the sheer horror of an unexpected period-accident to a teenage girl in the 70s. If a bear or other animal is attracted by the scent of blood, could she have been dragged off and killed? Just my two cents on a terribly tragic situation.

Buncombe County - Buncombe is pronounced bun-come, with the 'n' being short and hard, and the last part is like 'come' not like a 'comb.' 😁 We are going to need an Appalachian English course on duo-lingo...

I’ve heard ay least half a dozen stories about Trenny Gibson and in ALL OF THEM a semi creepy friend is mentioned. You are the first one to question the inclusion of that young man. Makes me wonder if people are just reading Paulides and not digging into the background, which just makes me appreciate your channel the more. I’ve been culling my subscriptions, and this one definitely makes the cut. Your research is above and beyond. I’ll be plugging in for this entire series FOR SURE

the ring was likely from a family member or gift for christmas/ birthday. my grandmother often gifts me expensive jewelry and rings. at 16, i had friends with expensive or vintage rings and jewelry that were either previously owned by their mothers/grandmothers or gifts from them.

omg! I saw this thumbnail like 5x on my feed and kept thinking Trenny...App Trail..I guess he's another missing 411..but I kept feeling like I needed to watch..then I remembered it's the girl Trenny! Aww so glad you're on this one! I know this one! I was just drawing a blank. I was on Namus for hours last night and you're not kidding about the missing people in the 1970's...there's so many Jane Does..stil unsolved from then.

New Lore Lodge let's go! Been absolutely binging all these videos lately.

If you ever do anything about the Appalachian trail again you should reach out to kyle hates hiking. He does alot of missing person/true crime stuff about that area, is from there, and has hiked the at. Could be some good insight

Jeez. You literally cant win when it come to palaidas. Either you use him too much. Or youre just too mean to him.

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I really like the way you present and edit your posts. Highly educational and entertaining. Kudos to all involved!!

One thing I learned years ago is that someone could be looking straight at me and still not see what I was doing, no misdirection involved. People don't really focus on what is in front of them; they are too busy thinking their own thoughts.

These videos are always so interesting, I feel like I always learn something from watching! Thanks for all your hard work and research! :)

I think criticizing Paulidus should be done more. I frequently see these cases where he either omits publicly available information or outright makes things up to make cases more mysterious. Bedtime Stories did a great vudeo a few years ago talking about cases he'd called Missing 411 that actually had obvious solutions if all the information available had been presented. Might have had good intentions, maybe still does, but it seems awfully grifter-like behavior to me.

About 5 years ago my wife and I couldn't get up to see Clingman's Dome because a woman had told her daughter she'd catch up in a minute 1mi up the AT from the parking lot. SAR found her body a week later in a wash. Died of exposure in October. Never underestimate the ability of your average unprepared person with no compass, no navigational skills, and no way of signaling for help to get lost in some trees and freeze to death because it got cold at night.

The only conclusion I am willing to make regarding Trenny's disappearance is that she seemed to walk out of the park. It may have been to meet someone down on the road or she was escorted out by someone else. The 4 or 5 dogs tracking to the same spot is the best evidence there is in this case. My question is why didn't Trenny get in touch with her family even a decade or two later if it was voluntary? I feel it didn't end well for Trenny. Was she duped and trafficked? Was she emotionally played by an abusive guy pretending to love her and sweep her away to their dream life? The initial leaving may have been voluntary but not hearing anything from her over the course of four plus decades to me implies something nefarious happened to her.

This is a crazy disappearance. Being close to her age makes me feel so bad that she went missing, with such a bright future. Really makes you wonder if she lived in this age, would this have happened?

I gotta say, the dots on the map was a big help for showing people’s movement on the Google maps. It can be a bit confusing sometimes with all the pings. Hopefully more things like this can pop up in future with the channel expansion

Hey dude, dont know if youll see this comment but if you do. Make a video on the Jay Slater disappearance. Theres something strange going on with it and it fits the missing 411 MO too perfectly. Have a look and you'll see what I mean. Hopefully your keen eye may be able to figure out whats happened as the world seems stumped

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Great video as always guys.

I could see the reason for her being in a hurry is that she needed to use the restroom. That could also be the reason for her leaving the trail momentarily, but I doubt she would get lost in that scenario. I have heard elsewhere that this was a surprise trip that the students were not told where they were going ahead of time? That sounds strange because kids still had to have permission slips signed by a parent for a trip like this. I was much younger than she was, but we always needed a permission slip for field trips. Anyway, maybe her "friends " tricked her into leaving the trail for some reason?

I just found your channel and am really liking the content. I have a suggestion (I looked through your past videos and did not see it) and that is the Death Valley Germans. I don't know if you do content on the west coast but it is a really interesting story.

I could never express my love for your guys’ channel enough

Awesome as always thanks ❤

Ty for making such awesome content and being so thorough. Looking forward to y'all hitting 500k!

The grassy knoll JFK reference almost killed me 😅

This part of the AT is my backyard… beautiful country.

Time is moving way to fast the Mike Henson video feels like it came out 2 days ago, not 7

Another phenomenal video. I would love for this channel to do a deep dive into the case of Judy Smith. Out of any case it’s the one that I genuinely can’t even come up with any plausible explanation for. She was from Massachusetts. Married. Went to Philadelphia for a business trip with her husband. She vanishes in Philly. Without a trace. 4 months later she’s found dead 600 miles away in the Pisgah National Forest of North Carolina.

When are you guys going to take an expedition to these places, do some field work😅 I’d love to watch a live of the voyage, you guys seem well enough to get some camping in! Please? lol

The howl was my favorite part lol. Loved the video as always! ❤

With no signs found in the woods and all the dogs following the same path, she either got lost and was subsequently abducted by a stranger or she purposely hid and met up with a guy to run away to meet whatever end. This one doesnt feel like shes still in the park.

Keep being critical! That’s why we love your work. Great job with this one, I agree with your assessment

Thank you for your videos!

Never been this early! Can’t wait for hear this 411

Awesome work!

you're sounding more and more like paulides every episode. i like it

The cut to sad music to correct the "mistake" at 51:33 was kinda funny

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When I was 14 (in the early 2000s) I was on AOL chatting with older men. I suffered from depression and suicidal thoughts from age 9, my mom was emotionally absent due to a pain pill addiction, so I was desperate to find love and attention. I invited three different men to my house when my mom was away for work trips. Now, nothing untoward ever happened, we just hung out and watched movies or went to the mall, but I was incredibly stupid. My mom was completely clueless, as were my friends, and I'm sure if something had happened to me, no one would have guessed the truth. I was the quiet kid in school, introverted and got good grades. My mom didn't even know I was on the internet and in chat rooms. You make a really good point about the ring. I myself was thinking she was abducted but the ring really stands out.

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Your hypothesis sounds about right. She clearly ran off on her own, and going to meet a boy, especially with that unusually expensive ring, seems like a likely motive. Frankly that call form the Bahamas seems like it could even have actually been her. Lure a teenage girl off with promises of a romantic fling, sell her off to be trafficked, take the money and dip, yeah that's plausible.

History segment back next week, yay!!!

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I think what would make this even better is if it had a link to all the sources in the video for the general public to view. not having it behind a paywall would give people a much better view of your character.

You're too critical of David P.? I thought you were always respectful in the way you were correcting his work.

I love this channel

This tripped me up because I was at Clingman's Dome last month.

Great graphics!!!!!

Your intros always Crack me up and catch me off guard. 11/10

Visiting Tennessee right now, and despite regularly viewing your videos, the call of the void/forest still remains lmao

Do dogs ever track the scent of the previous dogs that trailed before them? I would like an answer if someone knows.

It’s a little surreal to hear about a missing girl near Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge… My family and I vacationed there sometimes, I even went there for school trips!

$3300 in 1976 is something like $18K in 2024 money. That's a very expensive ring.

Love the merch!