Watch This Video Before Pouring A Concrete Foundation - Construction Tips

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gregvancom

gregvancom

9 жыл бұрын

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Click on this link for more videos on construction, building foundations and concrete. Here's a video I wish everyone who ever poured a concrete building foundation would watch at least once before pouring the concrete and then wondering why they had problems that could have been solved with a little information. I see this all the time and will probably see it for years to come, but once the concrete is dry, any excess bulges will probably need to be chipped away with the chipping hammer or jackhammer and this isn't going to be easy.

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@jonw2545
@jonw2545 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a third term carpenter apprentice and I have been doing siding for the entirety of my career thus far. I am actually starting with a new company Monday doing concrete and I was looking for some videos for reference purposes..very helpful and informative just to give me an idea of what is in store for me. Thank you for this video! 👍
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and if you're looking for a organized list of our videos, they can be found at our website. Click on the home building and then foundations.
@novelsonfire3174
@novelsonfire3174 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, my Dad was in construction and was the inventor of preform concreting techniques and he always said it starts with correct forms every time.
@jimdenham8354
@jimdenham8354 6 жыл бұрын
I think you mean SOME preform concrete techniques? Preform concrete has been around since the ROMAN Empire..... I don't think your daddy is that old!
@TheJblackmanwork
@TheJblackmanwork 8 жыл бұрын
I found this much more informative to pouring concrete and checking forms than a lot of videos Ive seen, thank you for taking the time to make this video.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 8 жыл бұрын
+TheJblackmanwork You're welcome and thanks for the wonderful complement.
@gateway8833
@gateway8833 8 жыл бұрын
When I did framing work there was a spacific form crew we hated to follow, their work looked almost this good. Sure makes doing quality work just that much harder.
@dukeman7595
@dukeman7595 8 жыл бұрын
You do nice work, also very informative..
@robertmawanda
@robertmawanda 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, I like straight, perfect square etc.
@RedStorm.
@RedStorm. Жыл бұрын
You are so good at explaining things. Thank you😊
@gregvancom
@gregvancom Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@GarciaJustinBArchPE
@GarciaJustinBArchPE 7 жыл бұрын
Contractors and Homeowners: I can't stress enough the importance of getting a soils report before placing a foundation. Soil preparation for a foundation is the most important step in foundation construction. If your soil strength is low, it won't matter on hoe well the concrete foundation is constructed; the house will experience differential settlement - a costly mistake.
@ericwsmith7722
@ericwsmith7722 7 жыл бұрын
That's not really necessary in the "snow belt" were your footings are at least 4 feet below grade level as long as your on virgin soil or properly compacted.
@angeloacosta9411
@angeloacosta9411 3 жыл бұрын
Your absolutely correct in regards to soil sample/prep... I've done lots of concrete repair because someone else didn't do there job... thx . Take care !
@mackellyman5642
@mackellyman5642 2 жыл бұрын
It's all about competent bedrock, otherwise it's a dig-out and re-compact with a soils memo.
@johnwhite2576
@johnwhite2576 7 ай бұрын
You have to consider context and location. Other poster noted north east depth of footer- and if a precious house haves been there and not Sette,d for decades, as long as don’t have to over excavate, not sure about slide report. And how many samples are you gogin to take for analysis??
@Chimp_No_1
@Chimp_No_1 8 жыл бұрын
Really interesting and informative.
@jarredstevenswalls
@jarredstevenswalls 7 жыл бұрын
With your walls, the most important thing is your wall ties. They will keep a 10" wall 10" everywhere. As far as the bracing on the wall, first you set pins. Snap a chalk line and nail a 2x4 block down to the footing against the bottom of your forms on both sides. You can form the whole wall until you get to a corner like that, then go back and plumb the ends of your walls and corners. Then you run your string line before and after you pour. When setting forms, I will start in the best corner, and set a couple of forms each way. I use aluminum forms where the big boys are 30" wide 9' tall. You snap your line from pin to pin, after that if I had a ten inch wall, I would measure 44" each way because on the inside I will have a 4" inside corner, a ten inch wall, and one 30" form each way, use a big framing square and mark a line square with your chalk line in pencil both directions your setting forms. The joint where the first and second form meet should ALWAYS be on those square lines. That way when you get to a corner, your forms are running together perfectly every time and after making a turn or two you will be in the right spot on both sides of the form and your corners will be square inside and outside too. I'm a flat work contractor, but poured footings and walks with my old man for over 15 years and you figure out that there is a lot to forming proper walls. Find a good Mason with some aluminum forms, as long as the footing is poured level and FLOATED, instead of just leveled out with a rake, then if you want a 9' wall, you will have a 9' wall level within 3/16 from corner to corner. Just need a good concrete contractor
@mikegodwin4951
@mikegodwin4951 7 жыл бұрын
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@RedBeardCarpentryWoodworks
@RedBeardCarpentryWoodworks 7 жыл бұрын
Great tips!! Thank you for sharing!!
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
You bet and thanks for watching.
@chipsmydog
@chipsmydog 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the free advice you have been dishing out for these past years. I've learned a lot. Are there any standard guidlines for bracing concrete forms? Also, have found it is usually less hassle and profitable to do your own concrete work whenever possible?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 9 жыл бұрын
David Patton There might be for larger construction projects and if so would probably be specified by a structural engineer, but for projects like the one you're looking at for a building with less than three stories, I believe it would be up to the individuals working on the project. For example, there is no rule of thumb (that I'm familiar with) for spacing horizontal stakes 24 inches on center, like there might be for wall stud framing. I can say this though, it's always going to be better to have more structural supports than less if you don't know what you're doing.
@vinygee1
@vinygee1 7 жыл бұрын
Cause of the Bulge is simple..... Gap in form work wasnt closed properly In Australia we would chip it as furing out a wall as you mention could have additional probs down the line. Specially on a prefab frame. Other reasons for this type of mistake could be relegated to the Surveyor who did the Set out. Thats why before we start we measure all pegs if theres a small discrepancy we will usually rectify it our selves if measurements are way out as we have experienced this too , we make a call to the builder and get him or her to get the site resurveyed as measurments really are critical no matter what.
@clintjohnson5024
@clintjohnson5024 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you call this shit out you're awesome
@brentbahe9059
@brentbahe9059 6 жыл бұрын
Yea im new to learning foundations myself...but i rather know the dont's then hear do's later...good vid. I know to double check before pouring👍
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 6 жыл бұрын
Double check everything and make sure the forms are strong enough and hopefully everything works out is my motto.
@modeldaughters
@modeldaughters 7 жыл бұрын
I really like the 'after' photos showing problems - it graphically drives the headache home. Is it really that difficult to get an angle grinder and cut the excess bulging off by crosshatching and knocking out the squares? I'm not suggesting one be sloppy and leave that option on purpose - just curious. I'm fairly new to concrete - trying to suck up all the knowledge I can to go with the experience. Thanks.
@dennisfossey4312
@dennisfossey4312 8 жыл бұрын
Greg have you tried using ICF foundation for a garage?
@thomascena7707
@thomascena7707 6 жыл бұрын
i live in the philippines and nobody uses wood forms for a foundation.. its basically hollow blocks to make the form.. and the inside of the forms filled with gravel.. tamped down.. add sand .. watered.. and tamped down again.. then pour the cement.. came out great.. no cracks.. no bowing of wood..
@mabblers
@mabblers 6 жыл бұрын
Great tips guy. Thanks
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
@riennafoutre3833
@riennafoutre3833 7 жыл бұрын
And this is really not the way to properly brace forms....you need AT LEAST 2 x 3 and rod into the ground to maintain the bracing in place if you don't have vertical walls nerby on wich you press the 2 x 3 on.
@Eeropolvasti
@Eeropolvasti 8 жыл бұрын
Good, informative video! Help me, Greg!! I am planning to buy this older, built 1978 single floor house. I am in Florida, Palm Beach County. I don't know type of soil under house, just imaging, very sandy here?? Now, I understand, that if building second floor, which I am planning to do??, the size of the footings depens from many things: soil type/ =bearing capacity (pounds per square foot), size of the house/second floor, roof type: cement tile heaviest?, asphalt singles(next?, metal roof(lightest?). Now, lets say, bearing capacity of soil is 2000 pounds per square foot ( I think this is close), and I am planning to put asphalt singles as roof, if house now has footing 16 deep, 12 wide?? ( I did not check that yet, there is no houseplan for this building!), should 2 floor building have 16 x 24?? What is kind of rule of thumb in this??/. Could this footing widening be added afterwards?? Sure hope so, how do they do that?? Thanks a lot, youtheman =)
@jlt012001
@jlt012001 7 жыл бұрын
Our very first house we bought when we were young was like your video, a "remodeled" house. The footer for the addition was poured like a parallelogram. Needless to say the block was laid on the crooked footer and the walls went on top of the block.
@jamiebrierly3107
@jamiebrierly3107 6 жыл бұрын
Down here in Ohio when we had out 9 ft basement poured they was spot on!! They were perfectly sq no void areas in concrete! All walls plumb! But they used metal wall panels and form release! Even the walkout on the basement was perfect! They had another company do all steps and flat work and they was real good also! They cut the concrete wet which I have never seen but as to today still no cracks and we are to the drywall stage now!! Also thanks for replying back when I was framing about the structural questions!!
@MegaMommaUlman
@MegaMommaUlman 2 жыл бұрын
What company and where in ohio? I am looking for a concrete basemney
@jamiebrierly3107
@jamiebrierly3107 2 жыл бұрын
@@MegaMommaUlman I am in brown county is that close to you!
@petej3800
@petej3800 7 жыл бұрын
if your patioing or paving around the hose you dont have to remove any of the concrete and a small deviencce in the forming is not that bad a massive difference yes but not a small one very informative but over critical on some aspecs
@JOSUECISNEROSHR
@JOSUECISNEROSHR 4 жыл бұрын
I like that your explanation
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it made sense and this is definitely one of my more popular videos.
@jacobfox8681
@jacobfox8681 8 жыл бұрын
to make walls smoth tap with hammer or use a stinger to cream it up paln sander on out side of forms works also
@coffeetime3881
@coffeetime3881 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and tips. I'm not sure I seen a problem if the structure is for personal use and not to sell on the market. I understand cosmetically things could have been done different but what about the integrity of the wall? Is it still a solid foundation wall for a single story structure or am I missing something?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 6 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that it would be strong enough if it was approved by our local building department.
@Lexicondiablo
@Lexicondiablo 7 жыл бұрын
Do you guys not have a damp proof course? How do you keep ground water out, or is this a desert design?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
In California we don't use them and would love to see a picture of how they're used where you're at. Our groundwater is really low where we're at and would imagine you would have to dig more than 20 feet even hit it.
@Geoff_G
@Geoff_G 7 жыл бұрын
Worried about a 1/4" bit of concrete from between form boards but there's not one bit of sealant on the foundations below grade. Priorities?
@ak420dave7
@ak420dave7 4 жыл бұрын
or insulation for that matter lol
@ak420dave7
@ak420dave7 4 жыл бұрын
icf ftw
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 3 жыл бұрын
The formwork he shows as an example is half-assed. Guaranteed to move since the bracing is so light. And it's always terrible practice to leave wood stakes embedded in forms - a perfect pathway for termites.
@jeffiwanski407
@jeffiwanski407 7 жыл бұрын
I saw poor consolidation with the honey Comb. The forms will blow out at the bottom from the plastic concrete and not enough bracing.
@renderuthis
@renderuthis 7 жыл бұрын
Always get the concrete as straight as you can. level and plumb. Then everything will be easier. Even your wife will be happier.
@egonstein970
@egonstein970 3 жыл бұрын
Easy to Use and Well Made
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it.
@niveknospmoht8743
@niveknospmoht8743 Жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to remember working with my dad making foundations from concrete block. Always straight, always level and always square and to specs. Architects back then seemed to be conscious about external dimensions on the prints so you didn't end up with a house that was say 32' 3-1/2'' long. Contractors got lazy and cheap and this is the result. The horizontal lines in the foundation concrete look like hell to me.
@mbartslife
@mbartslife 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video. ))
@tf9256
@tf9256 5 жыл бұрын
For 3000 psi-3500 psi 4” thickness driveway, can I use #3 rebar and 18” spacing? What is the chair spacing? Thank you
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 5 жыл бұрын
I don't see a problem using number three rebar or with your spacing of 18 inches on center or your concrete mix. It's more common to see number four bars though. As far as the chair spacers, simply try to center the rebar the best you can in the middle of the concrete driveway.
@clintjohnson5024
@clintjohnson5024 5 жыл бұрын
When we score off of foundation and pool all of our lines it becomes the framers problem to fix with the concrete guys messed up and it happens over and over and over but we do our job thank God for framers
@johnson1573
@johnson1573 7 жыл бұрын
good job
@alexramos2670
@alexramos2670 5 жыл бұрын
Was this in Washington? I did framing out in the seattle area and most of the concrete work that i saw was bad.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 5 жыл бұрын
I believe most of the pictures were taken in Southern California.
@milan2k11
@milan2k11 9 жыл бұрын
Greg, do you have an e-mail I can contact you at? I would like your perspective/thoughts on a leaking issue I am having that my condo HOA is blaming on the window and will not fix it. But I find the window impossible to be an issue. Thank You
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 9 жыл бұрын
Nissan L33 gregvan.com/contact_us.htm
@educatedrock
@educatedrock 9 жыл бұрын
question: throughout the video we see some framing. I am wondering why there is no bearer between the concrete floor and the sill plate? Is it a building code thing from where you're from? I live in the north and its required, just curious. I always enjoy your efforts in posting these videos and providing your thoughts and skills in the building trade. Thanks.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 9 жыл бұрын
Todd Ransom That picture was taken in Southern California and might not require barrier. Feel free to send me a picture or post a link with an example of what you're referring to.
@MattOGormanSmith
@MattOGormanSmith 8 жыл бұрын
A cheap diamond circular saw will make short work of bulges. I put a £5 blade on my 4½" angle grinder and it cuts through normal limestone+ cement concrete like butter. You'd need a bigger one for slabs like that obviously.
@maknotv
@maknotv 8 жыл бұрын
I have a question they just pour the concert and made a foundation slab but now it has crack everywhere what does it mean I mean cracks from all the plumbing and some cracks are even going to foundation walls to
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 8 жыл бұрын
If it's new construction than you might have a problem, but cracks are common because concrete expands and contracts. However if your cracks are larger than a quarter inch wide or getting larger over time then you might need to contact a professional in your area for more information.
@cynthiarodgers1087
@cynthiarodgers1087 7 жыл бұрын
This is all new to me. I haven't seen anything built before, so you can laugh but I wonder if you are going to lay brick on top of this, wouldn't it be cheaper just to add a large plastic liner and pour concrete in without the form thing. also it seems that for the corners one could just put a 30 foot high steel post in and hold it still while the concrete sets up and then go to the next corner. Is the reason it is not done like this is that dried concrete wont bond to new concrete? Can you build with concrete then brick then wood for the attic? thanks
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you're missed the point of the video, but it was to double check everything and make sure that everything is reinforced correctly so that someone else doesn't have to worry about fixing anything and yes you can actually do it right the first time, I've done it plenty of times and so have others.
@user-td4gh6kj2z
@user-td4gh6kj2z 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Greg quick question regarding the screeding process. WIll be pouring a small amount, bout 10 cu yrds tommorrow in my dads backyard, but as we only have 3 people he wants to use a quite long (but straight) board with one person on each end and just drag it out. Will this work or is it a better idea to use a smaller piece of wood to do this with one person?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
That's a tough question to answer, but if you have three people I would imagine you could work with a 20 foot board.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
It all depends on how long of a board going to use, how much concrete you have poor and experience of those helping. In other words, experienced concrete professionals can use extremely long boards with fewer people, where inexperienced concrete workers might have a difficult time.
@ameralkhafagi3765
@ameralkhafagi3765 7 жыл бұрын
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@MrMax2800
@MrMax2800 7 жыл бұрын
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@nishanthapa9871
@nishanthapa9871 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and.... it would be a lot of help if you'd make another one regarding isolated footings in RCC framed buildings ..
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 8 жыл бұрын
+Nishan Thapa Could you be more specific? Exactly what type of information are you looking for? What is an RCC framed building?
@nishanthapa76
@nishanthapa76 8 жыл бұрын
+gregvancom RCC..reinforced cement concrete . and the framed structure is the one with frames of columns and beams (all RCC) .
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 8 жыл бұрын
I will see what I can do
@rodneydedeaux5642
@rodneydedeaux5642 7 жыл бұрын
we are building a home and was wondering if we do not know what to look for should we pay for another set of eyes during the entire process (inspector) from start to finish????
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
That's a tough question to answer, because you could hire someone who doesn't have enough experience or sad to say could be paid off by the builder. If you could find someone you trust then yes if not then I would gather as much information as you could about the process and inspect everything yourself. Feel free to send me pictures with your questions or post them on her Facebook page.
@rodneydedeaux5642
@rodneydedeaux5642 7 жыл бұрын
Ok great thanks alot!!!
@abdullahn9827
@abdullahn9827 4 жыл бұрын
From engineering perspective, I agree with most of the stuff you mentioned, but there is more important things to consider during construction. 1- as per the code, make sure that you have enough cover of 5cm (2in). This will prevent steel from corrosion. 2- Use concrete vabrators when pouring concrete. This will decrease the air content in the concrete and therefore you will get stronger concrete. 3- make sure to use reinforcement chairs or even small rocks to have your steel set on before pouring.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that this video wasn't meant to provide you with every single item or in the order of importance, but instead a few things that I as the video content creator viewed as important. By the way, the 2 inch minimum distance does not prevent steel from corroding, but can reduce the chances of it happening.
@abdullahn9827
@abdullahn9827 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. I just wanted to add these points and I think they are important to know before pouring concrete because they relates to the safety of the structure. And yes adequate cover don't 100% prevent corrosion but it decreas the chance of happening.
@donsmith9081
@donsmith9081 Жыл бұрын
@@abdullahn9827 Thanks for pointing this out.
@jdub929
@jdub929 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I would hire you in a second. Who I wouldn’t hire is all these people saying this type of work is acceptable. I guess there is very few true tradesman left in the world.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 5 жыл бұрын
Good point and it isn't always going to be easy to find someone doing.
@MrLeonard55
@MrLeonard55 8 жыл бұрын
I've seen plenty of concrete crews screw up the slabs. Not many of them think about quality. I've been in construction for 35 years. If the slab starts out wrong then the rest of the subs have to fix the problems usually. It becomes fix the previous guys problem.
@itsjustmetomc4848
@itsjustmetomc4848 8 жыл бұрын
+MrLeonard55 Amen, I'm a flooring contractor and we ALWAYS get the short end of that stick.
@JohnPreston888
@JohnPreston888 8 жыл бұрын
I think you mean "wrong end". There's no such thing as a "short end" of a stick. (You are mixing "short straw" with another metaphor relating to ass-wiping sponge sticks of days gone by)
@MrLeonard55
@MrLeonard55 8 жыл бұрын
There is a short and long end of a stick. It just depends on where you put your hand on the stick.
@JohnPreston888
@JohnPreston888 8 жыл бұрын
Priceless.
@katelynharold2200
@katelynharold2200 8 жыл бұрын
is sulfate resistant concrete used around the world? or just canada?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 8 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of sulfate resistant concrete, but am guessing that if they have it in Canada, they have it all around the world.
@jeffsmithist
@jeffsmithist 5 жыл бұрын
I am building a 20x20 garage. There is already an asphalt slab in place. Can I just use dirt on one side against the asphalt and wood on the other for a form?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 5 жыл бұрын
Yes and it's a fairly standard practice.
@davebainard8897
@davebainard8897 8 жыл бұрын
A lot of concrete carpenters are like doctors. They bury their mistakes.
@AllAccessConstruction
@AllAccessConstruction 8 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ln2596
@ln2596 8 жыл бұрын
no ,carpenters and cats . they both cover up their shit
@Handles-R-Lame
@Handles-R-Lame 7 жыл бұрын
LN25 dayummm
@bobbg9041
@bobbg9041 7 жыл бұрын
you can still see a hump when the drywall goes on. Crowns should always face the same direction. The carpenters that did my house didn't not know what a crown was did not own a level or square Try putting wallpaper on that. Plum line showed one wall out 4" in 8' so apparently he lost his level too. or had a 6" one.
@jimmyhamilton9388
@jimmyhamilton9388 7 жыл бұрын
this giy has never built a dog house let alone a house.nothing is perferct.Id hate to build a f n house for this guy.booo what a dumbass
@sparkimoto
@sparkimoto 7 жыл бұрын
This is just one example of why I prefer to do these types of jobs by myself, rather than hire someone to do them. Because no one who I hire is gonna take the extra time that I would to make the forms perfect. The downside is that I'm a lot slower. But that's better than going back to fix mistakes that were made the first time.
@dalepres1
@dalepres1 7 жыл бұрын
The attitudes of several of the pros in this discussion, complaining that the poster of this video is exposing their flaws definitely has me convinced I should do my own. I've always found that if I want it done right, I have to do it myself - usually 3 or 4 times :)
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. When you say you're slow, sometimes the tortoise is going to win the race and when it comes to building a home it all starts with the foundation.
@AJSchultz
@AJSchultz 7 жыл бұрын
gregvancom I saw you write earlier that you didn't like the carpenter take his time, and measure to the ¹/16"... (albeit there was also an element of bragging from the chipper) and here you admit the tortoise may win the race. These images of buildings look like cookie cutter prefab, mass produced, housing. At the end of the day, there is no feeling of craftsmanship. You've got three basic variables, Speed, Quality, and Cost: choose two. I love the process of the building, each movement constructing the smallest part of the job... every smallest detail as an artistic creation. Even the 'hidden' parts. (someday, it'll have to be repaired, that's entropy at play) It has been called perfectionism, but I believe it isn't worth doing, if I don't do my best, always. I too, have a keen eye for errors. I just don't waste my time on production buildings. Your slideshow was a bit captivating though. You've got high expectations, on projects sheathing with OSB... it's a bit contradictory, imo. I was really waiting for you to show us exactly what we're supposed to do for the best foundation. And in the end of it we were left looking at bad examples. Aweshucks.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for paying attention and for watching my videos. If you noticed I use the word sometimes, sometimes the tortoises going to win the race and there are those who can work efficiently doing quality work and those who produce the illusion that they are doing quality work, but spending 3 to 4 times longer doing it and those are the ones I have a problem with.
@scuddrunner1
@scuddrunner1 6 жыл бұрын
NO!! It starts with the soil conditions. Residental contractors are not experienced in soil testing and compaction. Night and day difference between a residential contractor and a commercial / public works contractor.
@antoniopedrobeta1675
@antoniopedrobeta1675 7 жыл бұрын
i like it good work
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@danielleonard2891
@danielleonard2891 4 жыл бұрын
Why were 2x used instead of Plywood? I guess it can be done either way, but seems like plywood and wailers could eliminate some of those issues. Is there any advantage of using 2x over plywood?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 4 жыл бұрын
I think it would depend upon the situation, walls taller than 4 feet might require plywood and snap ties with wedge anchors, where forms less than 24 inches tall seem to work just fine using 2 x materials. I would think that it's more of a personal preference to the contractor, more than anything.
@m.harris9512
@m.harris9512 7 жыл бұрын
There should be some dpc under the timber sole plate
@archanadash2782
@archanadash2782 Жыл бұрын
At 6min of the video, the foundation shows scratches, instead of bulging out, some part the concrete is missing small holes inside. Will it create any problem?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom Жыл бұрын
That shouldn't be a big deal, but it can be on some projects. I wouldn't worry about it on my house.
@HomeImProveMentHow
@HomeImProveMentHow 6 жыл бұрын
I've just started to listen to your introduction but do you give the techniques to making it straight so that people that are I'm sure we'll be able to get it right.? Not to offend looking forward to hearing from you Ken
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 6 жыл бұрын
Comments like yours are always appreciated. I will make a few more videos in the future about building concrete forms. My intentions weren't too explain how to build forms in this video, simply to point out a few things to look for, after the forms are installed.
@NCLUSA
@NCLUSA 7 жыл бұрын
Good video, but here's my take on this, in a hundred years from now will these minor flaws matter?. I'm working on a barn of mine and there is NOTHING!! straight or plumb but I am making walls and floors work by just covering them up the best I can and when anyone walks into the barn they will see some what straight walls. Yes it's good to try and make a good start on something when building but sometimes close is good enough.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
I guess it all depends on what you would consider close enough and if you're referring to a quarter of an inch then were on the same page.
@NCLUSA
@NCLUSA 7 жыл бұрын
gregvancom I have worked with people in construction and some of them would take a measurement of 1/32 or 1/8,where I would just try and get a quarter of an inch, it was good enough,
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
I always had a hard time with carpenters who pretended to be experts because they measured everything in a 16th of an inch, yet had a difficult time producing quality work at a reasonable rate of speed.
@NCLUSA
@NCLUSA 7 жыл бұрын
gregvancom Right you are.
@shakesmctremens178
@shakesmctremens178 6 жыл бұрын
NCLUSA "where I would just try and get a quarter of an inch, it was good enough" I love not following guys like you, makes my job so much easier. Can't get one end of the truss down to the plate without 2 guys standing on it? But the forms were only 1/4 inch high below the interior load wall.
@Robert8455
@Robert8455 6 жыл бұрын
Great things to look for with any builder or contractor you are thinking about using. Its sad that some of these builders don't employ or watch over the work of the laborers.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 6 жыл бұрын
That's a good point, but I've also met plenty of builders who don't really know what they're doing also.
@Brian123182
@Brian123182 7 жыл бұрын
One thing you didn't mention in this video is the risk of forms lifting off the footing when pouring knee walls. I had that happen and it could easily been prevented with a few Tapcons or other fasteners. Sure created a panic when it happened and the guys had to remove a bunch of concrete between the wall forms to have a level knee wall top for the log walls to rest upon.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
What a bummer and thanks for sharing. No I'm sure I didn't mention everything that could go wrong, but I'm glad you left the comment for others.
@Brian123182
@Brian123182 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, live and learn. Of course I figured my concrete guys would have known to anchor the forms to the footings but nope. I even had to use my laser level to help them square up the forms on the footings. I guess I should be thankful things turned out as well as they did but concrete is not very forgiving.
@speedieherbie
@speedieherbie 7 жыл бұрын
Iv'e built a few but this info is great info for the asses that build concrete foundations . I don't trust a concrete contractor
@redvan444
@redvan444 7 жыл бұрын
But what size door is going in that opening furring out could change the door size needed.Should be cut out.
@rockymontana1
@rockymontana1 8 жыл бұрын
I've seen worse,and in my own house.I own a Levit home and I have to say nothing in this house is straight.I seen the way my foundation was poured,and it looks like the outside was poured first then the floors poured inside them.Needless to say my floors settled and the outside edge stayed where they were poured.I really would like to put nice floors in my house but seeing how the floors dropped and the outside stayed where they were,I had to at least fill the huge cracks where the two surfaces separated.
@brock8199
@brock8199 8 жыл бұрын
Do you often pour a lot of monolithic walls/footings? As a driver I have seen that often attempted, but rarely done well without also forming the top of the footing. Usually I groan when I see that type of a set-up, especially if people are real quick with the vibrator.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 8 жыл бұрын
+Brock Jenkins The last time I did something that wasn't monolithic or all poured at the same time was back in the in the late 1980s.
@brock8199
@brock8199 8 жыл бұрын
+gregvancom I wish more people had it down, it would be a lot easier to do it that way then to have to come back into the same tight areas twice. How is your placement time per yard?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 8 жыл бұрын
Most of the time I used pumps and rarely did any jobs without them. I can't remember the last time I had to pay for any overtime.
@mikeysback70
@mikeysback70 8 жыл бұрын
I've bricked a lot of houses in my career as a brick mason. Most people would NOT be happy to know what it looks like behind the brick wall . That goes for the frame work part of the house as well.
@kreteman777
@kreteman777 8 жыл бұрын
+mikeysback70 It's behind the damn brick. Isn't that the point? It was never meant to be a finished product.
@jimdenham8354
@jimdenham8354 6 жыл бұрын
Dude you must be a heck of a craftsman !
@johnrodri2877
@johnrodri2877 4 жыл бұрын
Some kind of plastic spray after rebar and wires are in place then poor concrete? Will that work is that what you mentioned in the video?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 4 жыл бұрын
What exactly would you be spraying plastic on? The wood forms or the rebar.
@johnrodri2877
@johnrodri2877 4 жыл бұрын
On the rebar and wires
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnrodri2877 You shouldn't use any type of coating without checking with the engineer.
@johnrodri2877
@johnrodri2877 4 жыл бұрын
@@gregvancom but isn't any type of coating better than nothing?
@chrisbreneman6605
@chrisbreneman6605 6 жыл бұрын
Noob question; why does it matter if the slab sticks out farther than the wood? How is it any different than having an extended slab that sticks out for a patio?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it really does matter and it wouldn't be the same as having an extended patio slab, because patio slabs shouldn't ever be level or the same height, but actually lower to prevent water from the outside draining into the inside. I hope that wasn't a Noob answer.
@theapotheosisofgdot2294
@theapotheosisofgdot2294 7 жыл бұрын
I feel you should have mentioned "level", almost more important than straight...
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
Good point and I can't believe how much attention this video has got.
@nirasharashini2354
@nirasharashini2354 6 жыл бұрын
more like this .thank you
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and I definitely will.
@poopinfruz9771
@poopinfruz9771 7 жыл бұрын
best advice I've ever had is, "when you think you have enough bracing, double it"
@donaldjz
@donaldjz 5 жыл бұрын
Unlike j & j
@clintjohnson5024
@clintjohnson5024 5 жыл бұрын
We have that problem Colorado here apparently there's no decent concrete guys cuz our foundations are fucked up is a springer we're constantly fixing they're bulshit it sucks
@SaposJoint
@SaposJoint 7 жыл бұрын
I was a builder for 14 years, and the work you illustrated was truly cringe-worthy. Your comments are spot-on, and thanks.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
I've been in it for over 30 years and the hardest day I ever worked was pouring a 7 yard patio in a backyard with a wheel barrow in the summer and it started raining. It is a day that will live in my mind forever, until I don't.
@robertcarver4295
@robertcarver4295 7 жыл бұрын
I have a thousand photos of screw-ups, I should post them like you did. I would not consider that form to be braced, that was a terrible example, a 1x3 is not adequate. The pressure at the bottom is much greater, and unfortunately, most foundations in Florida are monoslab, meaning one pour for the floor and wall supports. They all have that knob of concrete spurl on the sides, no big deal, nobody fixes that, they just landscape above it. It is not a structural issue, only cosmetic. So first suggestion would be to pour a footing, that way the bottom of the form can be anchored to something. Any pour more than 18 inches is going to have lots of hydrostatic pressure, more at the bottom, and the higher you form it, the more pressure. Three feet, almost impossible to contain without real forms by a real forms company, the pressure will blow out the wall, bowed, like you described. Personally, I would always use a stemwall, meaning to have a footing down at least two feet, then just stack block, even dry stack, then only a 2X4 around the perimeter, let the crete fill the holes. that will always give you a perfectly square and plumb foundation if the interior dirt is not clay and has been compacted well. Next, be careful about load bearing. We had a huge development pour slabs for the lanais with no footing on the corners to carry the load for those block corner posts. We had over fifty houses where all the corners broke in those slabs. Footings are just deeper, compacted, and rebar in a crosshatch pattern, that will carry the load. Interior walls can be load bearing, so never forget footings under those.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
Send me a link when you make the video.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@Bobg425
@Bobg425 6 жыл бұрын
I dont see any DPM under the floorplates on any of the framing,dont you need/use it in the US?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 6 жыл бұрын
I'm in Southern California and we don't use DPM, as a matter of fact I forgot what the initials meant.
@Bobg425
@Bobg425 6 жыл бұрын
I should have spelt it out Im in the UK,we need DPM on everything:)
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 6 жыл бұрын
In some homes we use plastic that's about 6 mm thick as a moisture barrier under the slab, but it doesn't go into the concrete footings.
@Bobg425
@Bobg425 6 жыл бұрын
Our code,building regulations, has a long list of anti-damp regulations the EU has added many in the name of ' eco'.It would be strange to build without them.Theres people from all over the world that have access to your vids due to the net. I find it very interesting what you have to do to meet code,its a lot more rigorous over the pond.
@gdionwood
@gdionwood 7 жыл бұрын
Like someone pointed out already, if you brace forms the way you show in this video in my neck of the woods, forming companies will send you home within the 1st. hour! footing forms need to be braced with braces that: don't stick out over the top, have a piece of rebar or picket to hold the pressure at the back and cleats at the top! now if you are a shoemaker rather than a carpenter, it is a different story!!
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
This is pretty standard in California.
@ericwsmith7722
@ericwsmith7722 7 жыл бұрын
There was tie backs in the form, but yea all those diagonal bracing was a little over kill, Not that that's a bad thing.
@ghoulinthegraveyard399
@ghoulinthegraveyard399 7 жыл бұрын
yea Joe that would be correct. You would be depending on the fasteners to hold the concrete. Kickers every 2 foot and definitely at the joints. I do not like the idea of driving a stake by itself into the ground to kick off the form. When you pull a string line to fine tune it, you can't expect it to hold when you have to push against it and nail it off for it to come back in. I have heard people say the concrete will push it out that 1/2 inch or so. Be concerned of a contractor with a air compressor and paving breaker on the job and it is constantly in use. lol
@toughexercises
@toughexercises 8 жыл бұрын
ply rips only for forms unless under 6 inch
@edg4246
@edg4246 7 жыл бұрын
1:39 Off topic - don't you need a DPM under the sole plate?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
Some areas might require a damp proof membrane, but some don't.
@ricardorivera8480
@ricardorivera8480 7 жыл бұрын
form lines are because u need a tiny gap for form ties to go in so u will always end up with lines. I always drive my kickers past the top of forms that is against the form for better strength and not in the way of floating. not the best form job example but close enough for this video.
@peterlarssonhedlof6515
@peterlarssonhedlof6515 7 жыл бұрын
Does that defect weakens the construction on top of the concrete? And if in what way ? Can make any good reason why a guy should grind a concrete tunnel with a mega grinder ? Concrete should only be used as plitnts in the ground NADA MAS.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
It might not weaken the concrete, but sometimes the rebar used to structurally reinforce the concrete can get pushed out and if it is exposed when shipping would weaken the concrete foundation. Also grinding the concrete next to the rebar could weaken it if it becomes within 2 inches of the rebar.
@amarjitkumar8716
@amarjitkumar8716 7 жыл бұрын
nice
@joaquintorresiii644
@joaquintorresiii644 6 жыл бұрын
You think this will happen if I use metal formwork instead of Lumber?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 6 жыл бұрын
It can, the forms whether they're made out of wood or metal need to be positioned correctly and stabilized securely so that they don't move when the concrete is poured. Whether it's wood or metal it needs to be securely braced so that it doesn't move.
@iceman27406
@iceman27406 8 жыл бұрын
I thought a possible cause for the lines on the side of a slab were caused by the difference in moisture content or temperature between the top and bottom of the slab.
@iceman27406
@iceman27406 7 жыл бұрын
I guess the American Concrete Institute is wrong then.
@iceman27406
@iceman27406 7 жыл бұрын
***** You should read the study about internet trolls. You may have one or all of the mental disabilities associated with it. And don't worry you did not strike anymore of a nerve then any of the other fuck wits on this site trolling around for attention. Begone troll ye shall find no food here.
@bassfishermanify
@bassfishermanify 4 жыл бұрын
Is that house in Sacramento, California
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 4 жыл бұрын
No, Southern California.
@johnathanray8977
@johnathanray8977 7 жыл бұрын
what state is this that lets you build homes with 2x4 walls and not 2x6
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
California.
@fredgarvinMP
@fredgarvinMP 7 жыл бұрын
We in California freak when we see people in non earthquake zones pouring concrete without rebar. What's wrong with 2x4s btw? Use 2x6 in partition walls too?
@sunshinecompany1
@sunshinecompany1 Жыл бұрын
What difference does it make if peices hang out? Or if there's lines in it?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom Жыл бұрын
It would depend on how far the pieces hang out and what lines you would be referring to.
@mikekaiser3265
@mikekaiser3265 7 жыл бұрын
Dear Sir, That half inch space will be filled in with half inch plywood sheeting making the 2x4 plumb with the cement
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 7 жыл бұрын
Them it won't be a problem, but 2 inches will.
@mskillo81
@mskillo81 8 жыл бұрын
I would just like to add one thing pertaining to this topic... It is NOT always the case where things like this occur, and it is simply because the mason didn't know what he or she was doing. It's not always the case where the lumber was shot either. You would be surprised how often the cause of something like this was another type of human error. (ie... when pouring the concrete a stupid laborer bumped into a form or something. I have even seen the guy form the masonry plant who comes to test the concrete walk past, and bump a form. The prick didn't even speak up either.) The problem is a daunting task to remedy when there is a lot of square footage involved. Either way, that's why I prefer steel forms when I can use them, and I watch the entire process like a hawk. There is nothing worse than a laborer mucking up a several thousand dollar job, or the truck driver, or a home owner stepping on a form even. Thank God for yellow caution tape!!!
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 8 жыл бұрын
+mskillo81 Thanks for your comment and you're absolutely right.
@outofsquare
@outofsquare 8 жыл бұрын
No it's not, there's not a lot of mit graduates lined up to do form labor, and you can't watch them all. But an inch is enough t o make a I know my shit look what they did wrong video? Guy sounds like he repairs watches for a living
@jacksprat3009
@jacksprat3009 6 жыл бұрын
There are lots of videos on building a foundation, but this is the only one (so far) that shows the results of sloppy work which creates more work by continually correcting. Getting the forms straight and at exact angles, braced strong should take the time to get everything right. Digging the trenches and pouring the cement are the easy parts. Thanks for the reminder.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 6 жыл бұрын
It's nice to hear someone who understands the meaning of this video and has taken the time to leave a comment like yours. You wouldn't believe how many comments I've received telling me that straight concrete isn't important and something like this is in the big deal.
@bichchan7268
@bichchan7268 3 жыл бұрын
What that last one for ?
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 3 жыл бұрын
If you're talking about the furring, then that would be to make it a little easier to stucco or add siding to the exterior. Let me know if that doesn't make sense or if this wasn't what you were asking.
@MrTopsoil911
@MrTopsoil911 7 жыл бұрын
foam or rubber gasket where wood meets concrete. if not wood wicker moisture from concrete
@clintjohnson5024
@clintjohnson5024 5 жыл бұрын
Actually there is a seal
@munsters2
@munsters2 4 жыл бұрын
Also, at 04:13 looks like the concrete was not properly placed or vibrated since there is exposed aggregate on the surface and pockets where cement should be.
@gregvancom
@gregvancom 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen this a lot and often wonder how many problems are created by it.
@rich1879
@rich1879 7 жыл бұрын
cool.
@SuperSaltydog77
@SuperSaltydog77 7 жыл бұрын
It is always cheaper to do it right the first time than having to do it over.
@edstimator1
@edstimator1 7 жыл бұрын
No it's not. It takes a lot of time to get things perfect and usually this stuff just gets burried. We are not building pianos here, just the boxes they come in. Git er done!! Ruhh Ruhh!!
@ericwsmith7722
@ericwsmith7722 7 жыл бұрын
As for the concrete wall being a little off, that's not a big deal, by the time the sheeting and siding goes on, not even a fuss budget will notice. As for this guys advice for the framers to build to the foundation,,, that's is just stupid, stupid stupid. I mean if you would like to hide a strip of concrete in favor or a 3/4 inch calk joint on your counter top... yea go ahead. If a customer wants a nice finished foundation wall that cost extra, either for a form liner or parge coat. This goes back to every one wants top quality, but no one wants to pay for it,
@gary24752
@gary24752 7 жыл бұрын
That kind of attitude will get your work rejected by the architect or at least a payment application withheld.
@ericwsmith7722
@ericwsmith7722 7 жыл бұрын
Gary, that only happens on state and government jobs, and that's why those jobs cost twice as much and still manage to go over budget. There is a part of the real world that keeps silly non issues from being addressed ( like the foundation in this video for example ) And that is construction delays cost the general contractor money, not the sub contractor. As for not paying, that's a great way to get a lien put on the property, and you cant sell property with a lien on it.Now you can put late fees and a lien waver in a contract, but expect the bid price to be much higher and you will also have less contractors who will even bid on it.
@gary24752
@gary24752 7 жыл бұрын
No so as far as only being limited to state or government jobs. I have rejected bad concrete work and made them remove and replace it because they couldn't take the time to do a professional job or follow the drawings.I do not consider poor workmanship a silly issue by any contractor. Any issues for poor workmanship may be the GC's problem but the sub-contractor pays for it one way or another by not being hired again especially if the payment application and or retainer gets reduced or held up.You would be hard pressed to prove your case for a lien with bad workmanship.
@Joebunkyss1
@Joebunkyss1 8 жыл бұрын
centred,secured and symetricly straight.....savvee.?
@rigobertonicolasalvearpena5300
@rigobertonicolasalvearpena5300 7 жыл бұрын
in mass production is not the same build a home and build 1000 homes is mass production this is common problems in our daily basis life where we have a crew just to correct any imperfection on the punch list of the project is easy to judge after finished but different when you are working and have to complete 5 or 6 in one day , one crew forming and other pouring concrete
@WineCountryCarpet
@WineCountryCarpet 7 жыл бұрын
It almost looks like the concrete sub set some of the walls for 2x6 accidentally?
@davem5308
@davem5308 7 жыл бұрын
Landscaping is meant to cover some of these typical poured artifacts. Finished, siding also covers some of these sort of artifacts. It wasn't that terrible overall. Skills and experience, will make the finished project perfectly fine. No doubt, a better job could have been done. Certainly this video points out where more attention to details would have been a nice thing during the concrete pouring phase/s. I think if we knew all the contractors involved, and their background and history, that would tell us that maybe these muck ups, were to be expected and we shouldn't be surprised! Lol!
@poopinfruz9771
@poopinfruz9771 7 жыл бұрын
Dave M I would hope nobody in construction would expect a foundation/pad/wall or anything concrete to not be straight.
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