Common Mistakes New Watchmakers make Using a Timegrapher

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@MrSubmariner771 Жыл бұрын

I am a super noobie into watchmaking. I thought to pick it up as a hobby and am slowly acquiring the tools needed. Still have a ways to go but I recently stumbled across your channel and immediately gravitated towards your teaching style. Slow, methodical, technical, with diagrams and microscope closeups. If only 5% of the world knew what went into watchmaking perfection. People with money simply buy what's expensive and have zero appreciation for the little engineering marvels that they are. Cheers!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

You got that right Tyler. Good to have you with us.

@burritolover5082 Жыл бұрын

Make sure you make lubrication one of your main priorities! I talked to a watchmaker today who told me he only uses 1 grease, and 1 oil (9010). Don’t be that guy. Theres a lot of those guys.

@EricBishard 6 ай бұрын

Watch his first video. 7 tools for complete noobs. Jk. But really watch it

@jjudelson 5 ай бұрын

Even as an amateur watchmaker and now half decent having worked on quite a number of vintage watches and pocket watches I have never failed to learn something really worthwhile or what I think is valuable information on every single one of your videos. Your short lessons are always relevant and of the highest standard - you are a gifted teacher.

@watchrepairtutorials 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! That's all I can hope for. Hell I learn new things talking to other watchmakers, all of which have different work experiences. Keeping an open mind and being able to continuously learn is what makes horology so interesting.

@sendtosurge 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a clear and careful presentation without trying to sell me on something. I truly appreciate it.

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

I have nothing to sell brother. Thanks for watching

@machinistmikethetinkerer4827 Жыл бұрын

Best one yet on timegraphers. And I've watched alot of em over the years. Life member of the ADD/Dyslexia club, I understood this one easily. Thanks.

@SuperLemonAdam 2 жыл бұрын

As per usual, this was an excellent video. The explanation of amplitude, beat error, etc. was all incredibly interesting! Thanks for the deep dive!

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

Yea man, thank you

@user-tl5du5zb4n 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you dear, very informative video. It is delightful to see a person who actually knows and shares freely knowledge. Please keep up the good work!

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you may friend

@pitchelcabigan6230 Жыл бұрын

I really love this channel. We can get tones of information the factory way for free. This is the same way how the high-end watch manufacturer discusses things during training. Soooo Swiss...

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Are you in school right now ?

@MrMom950 18 күн бұрын

Man... you just explain things so well... thank you for all these videos

@MrMom950 18 күн бұрын

Soooo much information in this one video that I have watched it at least 3 times all the way through to try to absorb it all... so many "ahhhh, ah ha!" moments as I do...

@watchrepairtutorials 17 күн бұрын

Much respect Mr Mom. Watch it, practice it. Watch it, practice it.

@MrMom950 17 күн бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials I can't wait to try out your bonus tip to find out an accurate LA on my first watch I've bought and restored from ebay that is my daily driver right now. I was just so jazzed to get it back to life that I kind of ignored the... shall we say... not so impressive timegraph numbers... but I am definitely one of those newbs that just leaves it at the default LA setting on my 1000 because I hadn't a clue how to find those numbers on these old movements... Thanks again and I look forward to more of your videos. Cheers!

@cavernshark Жыл бұрын

Thanks! This is an amazingly clear and comprehensible explanation of principles I’ve been wondering about for a while.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome and Thank You for your support.

@petemorgan1019 Жыл бұрын

Loads of information. Brilliant. Thankyou.

@Supercruze 2 жыл бұрын

Good stuff. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Love the lift angle tip.

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

You got it Supercruze

@hatbpto5180 Жыл бұрын

This is all very interesting. I am certain that I will be returning to this video many times as I progress through my watchmaking journey. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us, it is greatly appreciated! 👍

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Great to have you!

@grahamsmith1382 Жыл бұрын

Only just found your video's, really really good, great information very well explained. Working my way through them all, please keep them coming beginners like myself are benefiting enormously.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Hey Graham, My channel is designed for new watchmakers and I am making videos kind of a specific order to build skills as needed. Glad you like it.

@KW-ee1hu Жыл бұрын

Another awesome video. Thanks for making them, I am learning a ton!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Thanks KW

@billyg736 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, been told so much about the time grapher, when all thats required was detail and myths explained. cheers.

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Billy G

@haping1 Жыл бұрын

Great video Alex. I hiervan more and more vind faults in the movement by using my Timegrapher. Before using your bonus tip, I search the internet to find a lift angle list of movements.

@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy Ай бұрын

Your explanation cleared up the mystery of how a timegrapher measures amplitude. Thank you.

@watchrepairtutorials Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful Terry.

@mtpokit Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your time. Much appreciated.

@MasterofPrayer 3 ай бұрын

I love your teaching style it’s so clear and makes perfect sense, thank you

@watchrepairtutorials 3 ай бұрын

You are so welcome!

@TheBeardedWatchmaker 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Alex! Awesome tip on calculating lift angle - it's obvious now that you've explained it haha

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

What’s up my friend, thanks for watching

@JoeZaccardelli Жыл бұрын

Great video! Happy I came across your channel. Keep it up!

@El1988Che 2 жыл бұрын

Well, I learned something today! I didn't know about the manufacturer's beat error tolerances, and I didn't know that anything under 1ms didn't affect the time keeping. Interesting stuff! Great informative video as always

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

Let me say that it obviously has to a lot to do with the grade of the movement. These are minimum allowances that would be allowed, but with the ease of adjusting BE in modern movements as opposed to adjusting BE at the collet on older movements, there really is no reason that it should not be perfect in the dial positions.

@dennisallport5704 Жыл бұрын

Awesome, this video earned you a subscriber! Your explanation of the physics involved in using a time graph machine is extremely helpful. Many people may not even know why the microphone stand rotates! Thanks for your detailed explanation of how it all works.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dennis. I’m glad to have you as part of the community.

@jlil1704 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for imparting your experience in watchmaking on a hobbyist like myself. Your ability to make things I never even considered, seem so obvious and easy to understand is great. You were born to teach! I've just discovered your channel, and i'm eating this up. Great stuff!

@watchrepairtutorials 8 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@So.Stephen 2 жыл бұрын

Another nugget of gold. I am now going to stop obsessing with beat error. Thank you sir!

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Stephen, If you are on a modern movement, you should be able to get it to 0.0 but when you are working on a movement that needs to be adjusted at the collet, it’s ok to get it close and be done. Less chance of screwing up the hairspring.

@mlsproject Жыл бұрын

These are some of the best watchmaking videos on KZfaq. And I've watched a LOT of them. The information is so well-delivered and clear that I am learning 100X more than I've learned watching other channels. Thank you!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Wow Mike that’s really nice to hear. That’s what I am going for.

@garyjohn1956 Жыл бұрын

We’ll done, we’ll explained, clear and patient. I like it. Good job, thank you.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend. I hope it can help in some small way.

@damienlieber 8 ай бұрын

I love your style and learning from you, please keep it going! I’m a hobbyist watchmaker learning it all on KZfaq

@watchrepairtutorials 8 ай бұрын

That’s awesome man. KZfaq is great but there’s just so much information on watchmaking that’s not out there. It will never be on the internet. If you ever find yourself needing to fill in the blanks, you should consider taking my watchmaking course which will be the closest thing to watch making school as you can find.-Alex

@lagadora Жыл бұрын

Thank you very, very much. Excellent explanations in such a clear way. So calm and cool, simply wonderful!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome Fred.

@Mrhvac Жыл бұрын

I am so glad I came across your videos. You explain things in a very understandable way. I used your affiliate links to reorder some cleaning supplies as a thank you.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Well Mr HVAC we appreciate you brother. Let me know if you need anything. Alex

@chrishughes24x7 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your expertise. I've been sequentially watching your video series and look forward to watching all of them.

@watchrepairtutorials 4 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you! Let me know if you have any questions

@chrishughes24x7 4 ай бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials In addition to watching your videos (and a handful of others), I'm reading Maintaining & Repairing Mechanical Watches: A Practical Guide by Mark W. Wiles. It's laid out well and I like that it was published in 2016. Bookwise, I am wondering where to go from here. Today, I visited an excellent used book store to assess their selection of horology books, and they had several interesting titles but they were all published in 1945 or earlier. Can you recommend titles that have aged well? I mostly collect vintage military field type watches with basic movements that I'm wanting to service. I'm also becoming fascinated by 1930s-50s chronographs and would love find books on this subject as well. Thanks again for sharing your expertise and I apologize if you've already done a video on must-have books that I have not watched yet.

@watchrepairtutorials 4 ай бұрын

@@chrishughes24x7 I would recommend the Bulova school of watchmaking. Written around 1945. It’s full of information that’s useful even today.

@chrishughes24x7 4 ай бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials I'll check it out. Thanks again!

@robertcalkjr.8325 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great tips, Alex.

@watchrepairtutorials 8 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@mrandmrswheels1142 Жыл бұрын

Why have I not spotted your channel yet 😣 Just purchased a timegrapher to check my watches, so this video is invaluable. Great presentation and info. Thanks for sharing this with us. I’ve subscribed now so I don’t miss any more of your videos. All the best

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Fantastic I hope to see you here in the comment section again. Let me know if there’s anything I can do to help you, Alex.

@tyranelewis7763 9 ай бұрын

As a 61yr lifelong watch lover. you have a new subscriber. I am finally going to learn how to repair and tune my large selection of watches I haven't used for years. Thank you so much for sharing your valuable knowledge that will help me with going into the other side of my mechanical watch love.

@watchrepairtutorials 9 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@frankfrank9711 Жыл бұрын

Wow now I know what separates a good regulation from a great one. You’re truly a pro. 👍

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Thanks Frank.

@watchtock8818 Жыл бұрын

That was freaking awesome!!!!

@ChipsPlace1952 4 ай бұрын

Good stuff. I will listening to these again. Need to retain it sll.

@watchrepairtutorials 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for listening. Keep on keeping on Chip

@user-mc8zv1kq1l Жыл бұрын

The bonus tip is so helpful! Thanks!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

You're so welcome!

@itzhaccroitoru4082 Жыл бұрын

an excellent video,I'm am to new to understanding everything.

@Sonny-gf2dq Жыл бұрын

Excellent educational video. Thanks for sharing.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@lobdsk 11 ай бұрын

Great stuff. I learned this the hard way.

@watchrepairtutorials 11 ай бұрын

Thank you, my friend. Come back and see us again.

@vonmikeore 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video- Thanks!

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see you again Mike, thanks for watching

@kevinrblodgett 2 жыл бұрын

Clear and concise!

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir.

@fvazquez64 Жыл бұрын

Great tips, thanks Alex!!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

My pleasure Francisco.

@robertproctor198 Жыл бұрын

Great informative & clear video with lots of tips, thank you very much.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome Robert.

@robertproctor198 Жыл бұрын

I wish you were my teacher!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

@@robertproctor198 I am . Let me know if I can help

@johntebeau4493 11 ай бұрын

Another home run topic. Thanks!

@watchrepairtutorials 11 ай бұрын

Thanks John

@reagannaidoo1981 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the advice

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

No problem!

@ernestb.2377 Жыл бұрын

Very good explanations, thanx!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ernest. I hope it helps you in some way.

@ernestb.2377 Жыл бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials yeah. I am no watch maker in any sense, and at this point I would not dare to disassemble the movement. I have this old watch from my dad, that passed away back in 1993. The watch is from the 70's I think. It is a known brand in ex-Yugoslavia, but otherwise I don't think so... Omikron. It has a Unitas 6325 movement with 21 jewels (Swiss made). The watch was never ever serviced to my knowledge. The front plate was in a very bad condition with some yellow stains, that I took it apart a take off the coating from the plate and used some black spray and then cleaned the digits. I polished the plexiglass. So then I was looking for some knowledge about how does it work in the first place. Very interesting invention, once you understand the basics. And now I was trying to make the watch run as true as possible. I found this phone App called Watch Accuracy Meter. It seems it works just fine. I was able to reduce the beat error to the minimum of about +0.2 BUT I see big differences in the speed between: 1) Half winded vs. Full winded (-731 vs. +71 s/day), and 2) Orientation, Face Up vs. Face Down (+71 vs. +2 s/day). I did adjusted it Face Down and fully winded. So that is consistent and watch would be true in that position... BUT, probably because the watch is never serviced in it's 50 years of life it will not be possible to adjust it "right" for all positions....?? Sorry for the long story, 🙂you probably have better things to do then to read this layman details. Haha. Cheers I will watch more of your vides and who knows...

@L7A1B93 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely a video i will return to once i get a timegrapher.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

There are deals out there from time to time.

@tessar2968 10 ай бұрын

Very informative explanation learned a lot thank you

@watchrepairtutorials 10 ай бұрын

Very welcome my friend

@caltagironeorologi1 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely fascinating.

@watchrepairtutorials 4 ай бұрын

Thank you my friend.

@joeycan6801 7 ай бұрын

Hi ! Wow just came across your video, amazing ! Loved it ! I Subscribed , Thank you

@watchrepairtutorials 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

@kswaminathan5439 8 ай бұрын

Sir, your depth of knowledge is awesome. It looks as if you have done your PhD in watch technology. You keep me spellbound when I watch your videos. At times, I feel I know nothing. But please continue with these videos. I gave so much to learn. Thanks and God bless.

@kswaminathan5439 8 ай бұрын

Sorry, it should read I have so much to learn.

@watchrepairtutorials 8 ай бұрын

I appreciate you my friend. Keep striving for improvement in every way.

@thelonemodder630 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video, your video is utmost helpful🍻🍻

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

No problem Hugo. 👌

@boydsargeant7496 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video Alex, you gave us 100s of tips! How long have you been working with watches?

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

Well I started at 18 and am getting ready to turn 62 so, a couple years I guess.😄

@keveh6093 Жыл бұрын

Excellent, very helpful

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Hey Kevin, glad I could help

@chrisjohnson4165 Күн бұрын

Thanks a lot, man! So many nuggets to mine here.

@watchrepairtutorials 12 сағат бұрын

You are very welcome Chris. Yes, there is a lot to unpack.

@rickhufnagel6984 Жыл бұрын

You da man! Love these videos thanks!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Hey Rick, How are you? Busy as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest?

@rickhufnagel6984 Жыл бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials ya I'm hanging in there, thanks! How about you?

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

@@rickhufnagel6984 feeling good and staying busy

@billyg736 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent. now i know the correct principles.

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

What’s up Billy. I am glad you found it helpful brother.

@patrickhauenstein7047 2 жыл бұрын

excellent, very informative

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Patrick, glad to have you

@gregcapella5941 Жыл бұрын

Great video,,,THANKS

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Greg. let me know if you need anything or have a subject you would like to see in a video

@Donnybrook10 8 ай бұрын

great tip. TY

@watchrepairtutorials 8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@dannyperkins4220 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@quinninstrumets8259 Жыл бұрын

“Just what I needed “ -The Cars Thank you

@fxhood2114 5 ай бұрын

Thank you - very helpful for noobies as me ❤😊

@watchrepairtutorials 5 ай бұрын

You are so welcome. Good luck to you.

@rakhlin Жыл бұрын

Wonderful video, as always. Just one question - does adding the drop of whiteout change the poise this skewing the result? How sensitive are the wheels and springs to the extra weight?

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Good question. Not for the purpose of determining lift angle. Poise error's do not effect a balance wheel in the horizontal positions, only vertical positions. Of course after the lift angle is determined, you would clean off the white out or marker, whatever you use.

@henryalvarez6284 Жыл бұрын

Awesome 👌

@Mdgd63 10 ай бұрын

Thank for sharing this info. As a (absolute) beginner is was wondering what my new bought Weishi 1000 could tell me about my mechanical watch and what's behind those readings.

@watchrepairtutorials 10 ай бұрын

Well, first and foremost, you need to look up to see what the lift angle is and adjust that for your watch movement. The correct lift angle in the timegrapher will tell you what the amplitude is. The amplitude is basically how far or the angle that the balance will isolates during two vibrations. This is an indication of the health of your watch movement amplitude of 270° in the horizontal position is kind of the benchmark for a movement that’s running well. The rate is just what it sounds like it is the time gain or lost over a 24 hour period when the watches in that position. The six main positions are dial up and dial down, and then the vertical positions are crown up crown down crown left and crown right. You will notice the amplitude drops 30 to 40° when you move from the horizontal position to the vertical positions. Beat error is the measurement of the difference of each vibration during one oscillation of the balance wheel. Your time Grapher is measuring how long one vibration is when the balance wheel spins to the left, and it’s comparing it to the vibration when it spins to the right, and that difference is the beat error. Beat error is really only important when it’s over 1.0 ms as that will affect the timing but anything under that does not affect timing. What it does affect is how easily a movement will start up once power is put into the main spring barrel. And that my friend is a general overview of what the timegrapher will tell you

@Mdgd63 10 ай бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials Thank you!

@j.d.plouffer6194 Жыл бұрын

Another great video Alex! Thanks! On a different note, I just got a set of 9 screwdrivers, made in South Korea, brand isTimelab...I would gladly send the set to you if you would be so kind to do a review on them...

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

JD that’s awesome. I am actually planning a video on the difference between lower cost screwdrivers and Bergeon screwdrivers. What is the real difference. If you think they are a contender I would love a set. If you go to the about me page my email is there.

@brunotulliani Жыл бұрын

Thank-you.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

You’re very welcome Bruno

@semmyroundel Жыл бұрын

Finally a no-nonsense explanation. There's so many 'unboxing and review' videos which essentially are just an unboxing (what's the point in that?) and ooh, isn't it nice? As a heating engineer, I like to explain to my customers what's happening inside their boiler in order so that they understand what needs doing/repairing. To me at least, this video is just that. Defo subscribing. Many, many thanks for that detailed explanation of the details of the function of the watch. Now I can release the grip on watchmakers charging a fortune (several times the original purchase cost) of servicing my Raketas. My better watches will come once I've built up a bit of experience.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

With an analytical mind, horology is a natural hobby for you. Let me know if I can help.

@semmyroundel Жыл бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials Many thanks, I'll try and figure it for myself, but will come back if needed.

@peterhawley6273 Жыл бұрын

Very, very, good video how can I get to number one and watch the whole series 👍🏻👍🏻

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Hey Peter, Glad you find some value in it. Here is a link to the playlist. kzfaq.info/sun/PLvMdYdz6a-tFD_GIFjiV4zj48nSfFOOky

@pas0003 7 ай бұрын

Your channel is amazing 😍 I just got two of my watches from service from a local watchmaker and both are around 180 degrees amplitude. I told that to the watchmaker and he said it was "fine". Both are running slow. One has VERY different rates between different positions from -50s to +5s, while the other seems pretty consistent with 5s delta ~ -5s to -10s. Its disappointing... Not sure whether to take them back and keep pushing or accept a big waste of money and go elsewhere...

@watchrepairtutorials 7 ай бұрын

That’s totally unacceptable from a watchmaker. Sorry to hear that was your experience. Of course the real measure is the accuracy on your wrist .

@twayne5940 3 ай бұрын

Hi there. Learning so much from your videos. Thank you 😊 When using a dot of white out on balance wheel to determine lift angle, would the balance wheel need to be cleaned afterwards? Wouldn't the added weight from the white out cause a positional error, i.e. a heavy spot?

@watchrepairtutorials 2 ай бұрын

Yes it needs to be cleaned off. Poise errors in a balance wheel do not affect dial or horizontal positions. They only affect vertical positions. FYI, you can use any kind of marker as long as you can see it clearly.

@mmsgkg 4 ай бұрын

Добрый день, Вы делитесь такими тонкостями, о которых многие умалчивают! Благодарю Вас!

@watchrepairtutorials 4 ай бұрын

Спасибо, мой друг. Я стараюсь освещать темы, которые не интересуют другие каналы, потому что они не набирают много просмотров. Я ценю тебя.

@coopoylozenge5964 Жыл бұрын

Advanced clarity!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

"Thank you, I try to be as crystal clear.

@dekim4866 11 ай бұрын

I remember the day I saw the 'delta' was more than 1 minute, I never knew the exact reason. My question is solved by this video, I was complacent on lubricating end stones (I was afraid of losing it😂).

@dekim4866 11 ай бұрын

That 8 o'clock regulating position tip is just awesome.

@watchrepairtutorials 11 ай бұрын

It’s where we all start from. It’s shocking when you first see how small and like that in stone it is.

@pete.b4197 Ай бұрын

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Sir!! 👌👍☺️✌️🙏🌻☀️

@watchrepairtutorials Ай бұрын

You are very welcome Pete.

@roadshowautosports Жыл бұрын

Than you for this video! By far, it’s tge best video on the subject! All purposes we didn’t know about it, ask in one video!! One question I have I’d about the timegrapher. Being that it is such a crucial tool and it’s accuracy should be of major importance to the results off out adjustments! I see you use the Weishi 1900 model, how does that compare to the 1000? And I’d like to know if we need to be aware of fake machines? Amazon, eBay, etc have them at different price ranges and raised my fear level about the chance of fakes being a problem. Are all of them are made in China?

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

I’ve never owned the 1000 but it is my understanding that the screen resolution is not as sharp. I also believe the 1000 does not have the ability to input custom BPH. Most of these machines are made by the same manufacture, and just re-branded with different names. As far as I know, they all work the same.

@PMELKUS Жыл бұрын

Great video Alex. Could you talk about what if you see a snow storm even after a service what you may have miss or what to check first.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Give me some context. What’s the rate and amplitude showing up. Did you demagnetize the movement?

@PMELKUS Жыл бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials Alex this is a Waltham grade 620 pocket watch. Had a busted mainspring which I replace. Did my normal service and adjustments got the rate down to + 4 sec per day and the amplitude is at 272 this is taken with the watch in the face up position. I did demagnetize as I always do as part of a service and I check with a app on have on my phone. But the traces are very noisy which tells me there extraneous noise coming from the movement. I put this on the back burner for now will strip down when I get time.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

@@PMELKUS if you have 2 distinct trace lines, it is an escapement issue. Could be wear on escape wheel teeth, a pallet stone chip or incorrect position, a problem with divisions or a banking pin issue. Pretty common in these old girls.

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@CaliberandCamber Жыл бұрын

This is the best video I’ve seen in explaining the time grapher! Think you could explain the function of the GAIN setting? I’ve always kept it on medium and never ran into any issue but recently purchased a watch that it needed to be turned up (more sensitive) to get a clean reading. If you have it set too high could it not make unclean readings look better then they actually are? THANKS!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

A higher gain setting will amplify the ticking sound of the watch, making it easier for the timegrapher to pick up on subtle variations in the watch's performance. This can be helpful when analyzing watches with low amplitudes or when attempting to detect problems with the watch's balance wheel or escapement. Going to a lower gain would probably have a more masking effect than to a higher setting. Medium is a good place to be.

@CaliberandCamber Жыл бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials Thanks for taking the time to answer!

@wildernessofzinn17 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Alex. You show things not many do in other watchmaking videos. Say I service the watch and put it on the timegrapher. My biggest problem is they run fast. Every dang time running super-fast. Like 10 minutes per day, at least, fast. Something besides magnetism. Hairspring, poising, whatever it takes to adjust the watch across positions. How to poise a balance, baby-step by baby-step, and how to get the watch in acceptable tolerances in different positions. Does your Journeyman course show how to do all this stuff?. If so, then that is what I need. The next step in this aggravating "hobby" I have a love-hate relationship with.

@watchrepairtutorials 8 ай бұрын

Yes, I will be including regulation as well as dynamic poising in the course. It also includes how to adjust the escapement and I will be adding setting and adjusting pallet stones.

@tyranelewis7763 7 ай бұрын

Do you Service or overhaul Ball Watches? I'm in need of my Roadmaster Challenger 18 Day/Date RR1102-C movement, and I been watching your content and I admire your knowledge and desire to be as perfect as possible.

@watchrepairtutorials 7 ай бұрын

I only take care of a small amount of work from some collectors that I’ve worked with for many years, but I do have a lot of watch making friends if you need a name

@bonibroco1076 Жыл бұрын

In that bonus tip for determining the lift angle, doesn't the white out affect the balance wheel's poise or is it negligible?

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

That’s a great question. It would absolutely create a poise error, but horizontal positions are not affected by poise errors only vertical positions. Of course you would need to clean it off after the lift angle is determined. The white out comes right off.

@jaycamp2364 Жыл бұрын

Hi Alex. This video is great. Love your style. But...I wonder when you get a moment if you wouldn't also tell us a bit more about those two lines on the grapher. I have done some experimenting with this device. Playing drums on the countertop from which it sits. Also, tapped a wood peg on the microphone. Played load music near it. It would have been interesting to see what it picks up at a Monster Truck Rally! But, some watches I record seem to show those lines are all but one line. So close that they're on top of one another. What does that mean? Other times the grapher just shows dots all over the place. Looks like snow. Figured out if those lines are going downhill the movement is slower then zero. If lines are going uphill it's running fast. Straight is zero. Also, on the 1900 those lines are two different colors. Which one is what? Perhaps put a dirty watch on the microphone. Then place an overhauled one (or brand new) on the microphone. There seems to be no manual that really gets into the 1000/1900 as much as you have in this video. Thank you so much.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

I plan on doing more troubleshooting videos with explanations of patterns and what they mean. The answer to your question is quite long and there is a lot of context and nuances that need to be understood to interpret the lines correctly. Basicly, each line represents one half- cycle or one swing in one direction. A complete oscillation consists of two swings or half cycles. The timegrapher detects the movement of the balance wheel by sensing the vibrations generated by the watch's escapement. The timegrapher precisely measures the duration of each oscillation cycle, usually in milliseconds and establishes a reference time based on a known and consistent oscillation rate. This reference time represents the ideal duration for each oscillation cycle. Then the timegrapher compares the measured duration of each oscillation cycle to the reference time. The difference between the measured duration and the reference time is the beat error. When those lines are together the beat error is 0.0ms and as the beat error increases the lines separate.

@nearlynormal007 Жыл бұрын

Hey Alex I noticed that you show the st36 with a lift angle of 50°, I thought they were the same as the eta 6497, 44°?

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Clones are not exact copies. As a matter of fact, there are differences between the ETA 6497-1 and the ETA 6497-2. Even though they look the same, they have two different beats, 18000 and 19800. The mainsprings are different and even though a lot of parts would be interchangeable, things like the train wheels, pallet fork and balance wheel are not. It doesn't take much of a change in the escapement geometry to change the lift angle. The Lift angle of an escapement is determined by the start of TOTAL UNLOCKING on the receiving side and the end of the RUN TO THE BANKING on the let off side. In the example I showed on the ST36, the rotation of the balance wheel is right at I80 degrees. It actual swings a little past the dot on the main plate. So if the timegrapher is showing 185 degrees, with the lift angle set to 50, then I'm pretty confident that its correct because its a lot easier to see the motion of the balance wheel than the RUN to the BANKING. I don't have a 6497 to check right now.

@billday295 Ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your life long learning with new generations of enthusiasts. I have a question regarding my Rolex two tone Submariner; I purchased the watch new from a Rolex dealer in the mid 80’s. The watch is in excellent condition and has never been serviced or opened. I have not worn the watch in many years and it’s not running. Do I send it to Rolex, knowing they will replace original parts as they deem necessary, how can I have it serviced while keeping it as intact to its original parts as possible? Thank you, Will

@watchrepairtutorials Ай бұрын

You can request that certain parts are not changed although some things like the mainspring are not going to be an option with them and you will want that changed out anyway. Other than that you can find a Rolex certified independent watchmaker who will be much easier to communicate you wishes to. I would contact the AWCI for a list of watchmakers close to you and then make some phone calls.

@billday295 Ай бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials thank you - very much enjoy you channel

@gehtnurdurch 4 ай бұрын

Nice to see Jeff Bridges also enjoys watch repair.

@watchrepairtutorials 4 ай бұрын

The Dude abides. 😊

@keithstarling8244 Жыл бұрын

Hi Alex, I often come back to your video's for reference, I have a simple question if you could clear up for me please. Are the dots on the timegrapher the palate fork hitting the banking pins or the palate stones on the escape wheel? Hope you can enlighten me "to become a better watchmaker " 😉

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

It’s not quite that simple. These dots are called indications and indications are caused by the tick sounds of the escapement. All 3 of them together because they happen about 100th of a second from EACH other.

@keithstarling8244 Жыл бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials Thanks, for your response. Impulse jewels/banking pin/escape wheel hitting stone. Am I now a better watchmaker? Thanks again.

@jtcustomknives Жыл бұрын

An easier way to check lift angle is use a black dot from a dry erase pen and slowly wind the watch till you can see a solid black dot at the 180° position. This is because the dot it lining up with it’s self on each cycle at the 180° position. The cycle is so fast that once you hit the 180° the dot stands out. Then change your lift angle on your time grapher till it reads 180° amplitude.

@libindaniel2000 Жыл бұрын

Use a black dot where, though? On the plate? Or the balance wheel?

@aronoc Жыл бұрын

@@libindaniel2000on the balance wheel

@racylaserjet 7 ай бұрын

@@libindaniel2000 You've probably figured it out but anyone who hasn't, the wheel. The plate isn't moving. The wheel is what's lining up with itself.

@4AllUSa Жыл бұрын

The American Watchmakers-Clockmakers Institute (AWCI) - ROLEX "What delta really means to your customer is this: It doesn’t matter if they wear their watch on the right wrist or the left, if they sleep in it or not, or if they lay it down the “wrong way” at night. It doesn’t matter, because the watch will only vary in timekeeping as much as the delta value (and often even less). So knowing the delta and having a low delta is a very desirably thing." / OMEGA "The same applies as above; a very low delta often keeps even the pickiest customer satisfied."

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

That’s a good way to look at it.

@jaymorton362 Жыл бұрын

I have watched all of your great lessons and a couple of them more than once. I looked up your web site and to my amazement, you are close to my town. I did not know that there were any watchmakers even close to the area. My question for this lesson. What app are you using for the slow-motion video? I have tried several and I am not able to get the visual results that you are showing. Thank you.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Hey neighbor. What city are you in. I used the super slow motion on my IPhone.

@jaymorton362 Жыл бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials I am in J'ville near the MCAS. Figures it would be the iPhone. I use Android so I guess I will keep trying different apps until I find one that I like. Kinda of like watching different watchmakers' videos to find the ones I like and can learn from. I like your instructive style, common sense approach and the occasional subtly sarcastic humorous expression or comment. Thanks for the fun learning curve.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

@@jaymorton362 are you active military?

@jaymorton362 Жыл бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials No. I'm local. Born here, traveled and lived around the country but came back about 22 years ago. Own and operate an apparel and jewelry store in Cape Carteret. Also repair clocks for resale. Been diving into the watches lately.

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

@@jaymorton362 your clock experience will serve you well. I hope to see again here.

@WatchmakerErik Жыл бұрын

If the lift angle is too low can I swap the camshaft? Oh sorry, got my hobbies crossed :D

@ScottMcCormick12358 Жыл бұрын

I can’t find the lift angle for Bulova 10BPAC or other Bulova 23 movements. What should I use? Thanks, Scott

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

Watch the bonus tip at the end. You’ll never have to wonder again

@ScottMcCormick12358 Жыл бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials Yes, thank you very much!

@stevehillful Жыл бұрын

I two am very new to this hobby, but am just continually in amazement of the mechanical watch movements of any kind. I have a Glycine airman that is very out of time , its only about 6 mo old and was good but now its not. I have a timegrapher , and have had good from it, however not so with the Glycine witch has a Sellita cw200-1 movement but the rate is +619 with an amp of153 full wind beat error of 9.2. I have not done anything to watch. But thought i could see if anyone had a clue? thx SteveO 63

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

First thing to check would be magnetism

@dreamingazer 2 жыл бұрын

You mentioned swiss watchmaking school textbooks, any recommendations?

@watchrepairtutorials 2 жыл бұрын

In the book “The Theory of Horology, on page 158 is where the information about the 8 o’clock position is. This is not a book I would recommend if you’re just starting out as it’s not really how to book but more technical stuff that really would be kind of pointless for someone new. If you are looking for a book on watchrepair I would highly recommend the “Bulova school watchmaking”. This book was written in the middle 40s for servicemen returning after WWII because there was a lack of watchmakers in the country. It was one of the first books written in plain English, so it was easy to understand. Even though it’s 75 years old not a whole lot is changed and watchmaking and it covers so much information it would be a valuable resource.

@dreamingazer 2 жыл бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials Thank you!!

@hansolo32 Жыл бұрын

Hi! I'm working on a Seiko 6139A. After the service, the timegrapher shows me a big difference between de back position, and the vertical position, about 30 seconds. Could you help me know where to start? I assume it could be play in some part, but I can't imagine which one. Thank you!

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

What is the amplitude and rate for the dial up and dial down positions?

@hansolo32 Жыл бұрын

@@watchrepairtutorials dial up, 172° and 0.2ms. Dial down 190° and 0.1ms. Maybe is there a difference with the balance wheel lubrication?

@watchrepairtutorials Жыл бұрын

@@hansolo32 perfect. Start there and clean and relubricate the end stones. Clean the balance pivots as well