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Hawkkz

Hawkkz

Жыл бұрын

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Warriors (Warrior Cats) is a series of novels based on the adventures and drama of multiple Clans of feral cats created by Victoria "Vicky" Holmes. The series is primarily set in a fictional forest, and later by a lake, in which fights and disputes over territory often occur between the groups: ThunderClan, ShadowClan, RiverClan, WindClan, and SkyClan as well as StarClan, the Dark Forest (The Place of No Stars), and BloodClan. Published by HarperCollins and edited by Working Partners (now owned by Coolabi), Warriors is written by authors Kate Cary and Cherith Baldry, as well as others, under the collective pseudonym Erin Hunter: beginning with their first book "Into the Wild" in 2003. Tui T. Sutherland, another writer for the series, also went on to create the Wings of Fire novels and manga. In 2021, an official ROBLOX game by the name of "Warrior Cats: Ultimate Edition" (WCUE) was released finally growing the franchise beyond the original books with much success on TikTok. The Warrior Cats fandom is deeply rooted in animation, art, drawings, OCs (original characters), ships (shipping), animation memes, and various Warrior Cats PMV (s), AMV (s), animatics, and Warrior Cats MAP / MAPs (multi-animator projects) among other forms of animated media. Some of its most popular characters include Firestar (Fireheart, Firepaw, Rusty), Graystripe, Ravenpaw, Sandstorm, Spottedleaf, Cinderpelt, Tallstar, Jake, Swiftpaw, Brightheart, Cloudtail, Bluestar, Yellowfang, Snowkit, Mapleshade, Leopardstar, Crookedstar, Hawkfrost, Tigerstar (Tigerclaw), Ashfur, Sol, Scourge, Mothwing, Crowfeather, Feathertail, Frecklewish, Squirrelflight (Squirrelstar), Leafpool, Bramblestar (Brambleclaw), Jayfeather, Hollyleaf, Dovewing, Ivypool, Lionblaze, Rootspring, Shadowsight, Bristlefrost, Nightheart, Sunbeam, Frostpaw, and Alderheart. And for more than 20 years, its fame (and respective infamy) has brought fans and countless readers alike together from across the world.

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@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
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@Trecherousbeast
@Trecherousbeast Жыл бұрын
My big prediction is that cats are breaking the warrior code to prove how important the code is and why they shouldn’t change it.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
oooo interesting! It never crossed my mind that they could do something like that. That'd be a really interesting twist for them to do w/ someone like Berryheart!
@PancakeTheKat
@PancakeTheKat Жыл бұрын
I hope they get it back to normal, but even better, they take away/change the med cat rule but not make it so long(like 10 and 11) and turn it into a law.
@FrisibleConfusion
@FrisibleConfusion Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz im a deaf person and i thought this was a stream intro... waited for 5 minutes AHAH
@user-idgaftbh
@user-idgaftbh 3 ай бұрын
U PREDICTED RIGHTTT
@fennelfin
@fennelfin Жыл бұрын
"I'm an unspayed cat. You smell nice. LET'S HAVE BABIES" is the tone I get from most romances
@cookie856
@cookie856 Жыл бұрын
**Imagine a parallel universe with Warrior Cat is here to convince people to spay their cat**
@emmasullivan3209
@emmasullivan3209 Жыл бұрын
My friend and I were imagining an alternate universe where TNR was happening in the Clans, and it was very fun. Imagine Tigerstar disappearing, and then suddenly reappearing with a tipped left ear and no balls. 😆 No more Tigerstar clones!
@fennelfin
@fennelfin Жыл бұрын
@@emmasullivan3209 Imagine the people figuring out the power of three prophecy in starclan when Leafpool gets spayed during the new prophecy
@patch4614
@patch4614 Жыл бұрын
Thats basically how real life cat 'romance' is-
@fennelfin
@fennelfin Жыл бұрын
@@patch4614 true-
@KaeserLooty
@KaeserLooty Жыл бұрын
My wishes for the next books are nightheart becoming a kittypet, frostpaw a villain and sunbeam have a zumba class
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
a zumba class?? 😭😭
@realvinestaff
@realvinestaff Жыл бұрын
WHAT IS A ZUMBA CLASS
@0gammag0
@0gammag0 Жыл бұрын
@@realvinestaff it’s a workout thing
@fairycat23
@fairycat23 Жыл бұрын
I'd go to Sunbeam's zumba class
@stormSeven
@stormSeven Жыл бұрын
PLEASE IT WOULD BE SO GOOD TO HAVE A VILLAIN PROTAGONIST IN A MAIN SERIES BOOK like a villain who is actually a villain and not just manipulated or misunderstood
@Cylidae
@Cylidae Жыл бұрын
I honestly like Nightheart a lot. He's funny to me, and just unapologetically edgy. He's also just... something we haven't gotten before in any Warrior cats character, which is super rare.
@tildalingmansvahn583
@tildalingmansvahn583 Жыл бұрын
I like him too! He’s kind of bitter just like me
@mysryuza
@mysryuza Жыл бұрын
The closest I’ve seen was Breezepelt 😂
@Cylidae
@Cylidae Жыл бұрын
@@mysryuza Yeah, but Breezepelt wasn't obsessed with democracy
@PancakeTheKat
@PancakeTheKat Жыл бұрын
Same lol we need an edgy character
@Blaze_the_cat_
@Blaze_the_cat_ Жыл бұрын
I see him as really whiney
@mollyoharte8413
@mollyoharte8413 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think Fireheart and Sandstorm are one of the few good romances in the series even though they fall into that initial "you saved me" pattern. Partly because I don't think the encounter made Sandstorm see him romantically, it just made her respect him as a classmate
@klltx2001
@klltx2001 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it wasn't what made her like like Fireheart/star, it just began the path of her actually respecting him, and was just a close friend, maybe crushing later. The romance didn't come until Rising Storm, 2-3 years into the first arc's timeline chronologically.
@Weirdanimalboy
@Weirdanimalboy Жыл бұрын
At least Brightheart magically got a second eye due to being sick in the medicine den
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
RIGHT??? Akira brought that up to me on Twitter and I couldn't stop laughing like 😭😭 that and "Myrtlepbloom" are so ridiculous I swear
@pikathemimikyu6655
@pikathemimikyu6655 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh I didn't even notice that when reading 🤣🤣😭
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz maybe it’s trying to say that when she dies, she’ll have her eye back in StarClan
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
We just know if Bliximi was here, she would be raging about them shooting down the opportunity to have Mothwing as leader lol
@Ivypool123
@Ivypool123 Жыл бұрын
yes😂this would have been so funny 😂
@catandrobbyflores
@catandrobbyflores Жыл бұрын
That begs the question though, would a cat that doesn't believe in starclan get 9 lives. Would that be like an atheist getting literally slapped by Jesus.
@TempestFNG
@TempestFNG Жыл бұрын
@@catandrobbyflores At this point, she's just like "Sure, starclan exists. So? Why should I care about them?"
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
@@TempestFNG yes she’s like the only Warrior cat who sees StarClan as the way they are, that they don’t always have the best intentions
@sNazzy_nazzy
@sNazzy_nazzy Жыл бұрын
80s QQ1
@SLTheOneAndAwesome19
@SLTheOneAndAwesome19 Жыл бұрын
Taking the blurb of Shadow into account and Tigerstar being suspicious of RiverClan - I have a feeling that RiverClan is going to avoid the greencough pandemic (probably because they're isolating themselves) and Rowankit is going to die from it. And Tigerstar is super overprotective of his children, so I can see him targeting RiverClan because of their self-imposed isolation and how, in his eyes, them not suffering from greencough somehow makes Rowankit's death their fault *Edit with spoilers from Sky* Fucking. Called it.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
OHH wow that's, like, such a good way to tie everything together what?? I totally see that actually happening in the book - what an amazing theory!
@falcon_arkaig
@falcon_arkaig Жыл бұрын
I could see TigerStar doing this, he was super overprotective of ShadowSight in TBC, so if one of his kits dies he'll go ape shit I feel. Then maybe cats start talking if he should be demoted?
@SLTheOneAndAwesome19
@SLTheOneAndAwesome19 Жыл бұрын
@@falcon_arkaig I can totally see Berryheart and her faction using this to impeach him! If they set up Cloverfoot joining Berryheart's group in this book, then I'm calling it!
@falcon_arkaig
@falcon_arkaig Жыл бұрын
@@SLTheOneAndAwesome19 Evil Deputy would be fun >:), CloverTail is (as far as I know) not a really developed character so they could do anything with them.
@SLTheOneAndAwesome19
@SLTheOneAndAwesome19 Жыл бұрын
@@falcon_arkaig She was part of the Kin and was made deputy to show Tigerstar supported the former Kin returning to ShadowClan a la Harespring. She's been supportive of Tigerstar for the little she's been shown, but I can totally see her being manipulated into being against him. Her joining the Kin set that precedence. But I can see her revealing that she holds the same prejudices that Berryheart does and if Tigerstar goes off the rails, then she could be convinced to agree to his impeachment. I specifically mentioned her because one of the established rules was that the deputy has to agree to the impeachment and becomes leader instead, so her disillusionment with Tigerstar would need to start having seeds planted if that's the route they're taking.
@dr.brandino
@dr.brandino Жыл бұрын
I like how you mentioned that it seems like the book is against Nightheart. In the last book it seems like he just despises his entire family. Nightheart has a reason to dislike Squirlflight and Sparkpelt. However he acts like everyone hates him but characters like Alderheart has never done a thing to him. I think Nightheart also mentioned in the last book that he can't talk to Alderheart because he did not know what is like to be a dad. That's sort of a petty reason to not want to speak with a family member. I understand that Nightheart is miserable that he is compared to Firestar and his father is dead but he is just so rude to everyone. Alderheart might not be a real dad but he did help raise Twigbranch and Voletshine. I also agree that Sunbeam is the best character of the three main characters. This collab was also amazing.
@mysryuza
@mysryuza Жыл бұрын
Nightheart doesn’t realize that adoptive figures and uncles can be better father figures than the father in some cases 💀 In the maternal case, Squirrelflight isn’t even the Three’s biological mom and had to raise them, and somehow couldn’t use his grandmother’s case as an example.
@dr.brandino
@dr.brandino Жыл бұрын
@@mysryuza I'm interested on how his and Sparkpelts relationship can be fixed. It seems like all three protagonists are having mom issues. Frostpaw lost her mother, Sumbeams mother is acting a bit antagonistic and Nightheart does not have a good relationship with his mother. I would also hope Finchlight gets some development because I think she has potential. Hopefully she dosen't turn out like Needleclaw and start hating on code breakers for no reason.
@rainbowskystar2740
@rainbowskystar2740 Жыл бұрын
Reading that line about Alderheart in River broke my heart - HE IS A DAD
@dr.brandino
@dr.brandino Жыл бұрын
Same. Alderheart is so sweet and must be protected. @@rainbowskystar2740
@DaVinci131
@DaVinci131 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be really cool if each book the leader of the respective Clan the book is named after dies to the conspiracy, because it would provide a pretty intense paradigm shift and also allow for some new characters to be leader
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
That would be cool, yeah! Unfortunately though we already know that Leafstar will still be alive after this book because she appears in the cover of the next one, but still a great idea nonetheless! Thanks for the comment ❤️
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
I am ok with everyone dying except Leafstar
@DaVinci131
@DaVinci131 Жыл бұрын
@@Sheedystar_the_cat I do love Leafstar tbh
@Lightfall8921
@Lightfall8921 Жыл бұрын
I hope that, if the theorie is cannon, squilf retires and makes ivy pool leader because I really want a ivystar
@True2ChainzLilWayne
@True2ChainzLilWayne Жыл бұрын
I’m fine with Leafstar being the next Mistystar as the oldest leader Hopefully Squirrelflight or Ivypool becomes ThunderClan next leader and they don’t choose Lionblaze
@NinyaBOT
@NinyaBOT Жыл бұрын
1:13:25 i cant lie, after the Sunbeam gets rejected plot + all the vibes that Nightheart is probably going to leave his clan by the end of the series, i also had a horrible feeling in my gut that theyre definitely going to put her and Nightheart together too and I really REALLY hope hey dont because then its literally just BristleRoot concept all over again girl gets rejected by who she thought she was going to end up with, gets depressed for a while, adventure, falls in love with other male protag that was an unlikely mate at first I just, dont even think Nightheart even needs a mate? I think he just needs to be in a clan that respects him for him and thats all he would want to be happy. I would like to see Sunbeam happy with someone because she just deserves love like that in general imo, but just not with Nightheart. Not in a million years.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
A huge part of the unconscious bias in Warriors is that whoever's putting all these relationships into the books seems to think that people can't be happy without falling in love unless they're strictly forbidden from doing so. It really is a shame, but I don't see them learning from that any time soon: it's why I honestly expect the worst whenever it comes to stuff like this.
@rainbowskystar2740
@rainbowskystar2740 Жыл бұрын
Nightheart getting a mate is REALLY problematic, tbh. He's already struggling with getting acceptance in his own Clan. Seeking out acceptance/validation in a relationship isn't healthy. There's also the question of whether or not Sunbeam would challenge Nightheart's views about his family/Clan. Would the relationship be based on pity? Would Nightheart's struggles be the foreground of the relationship, while Sunbeam's issues get cast aside? I do feel like Sun and Night are being pushed together though. Gullswoop mentioned explicitly that Sunbeam would get a SHADOWCLAN mate (an emphasis can mean that a character will go against the norm/advice given.) There's also just their names in general. Sun and Night. Opposites, but they cannot go on without the other. (If it was Sun and Moon or Day and Night, I would be completely sure of the romantic direction--) I really don't want this relationship to happen, but I think it will... :(
@NinyaBOT
@NinyaBOT Жыл бұрын
@@rainbowskystar2740 I didn't even think about some of that tbh. I was talkin about this in Moon's server earlier and we came to the conclusion together that IF they do get together, it would be really interesting to see it played out more like- An impulsive infatuation, like one of those crushes that last 1 week if you don't act on it and aren't crushes that really formed from genuine bonds. Nightheart would probably like her because she was nice to him while everyone else wasn't. Sunbeam liked him back because she's trying to cope with rejection still or something. Then Sunbeam would leave eventually once she realizes neither of them reallyyyy like each other like that, and even if he knows shes right, Nightheart would continue being edgy and blame-y and overexaggerating how much she must "hate" him to leave (think ashfur but if he just stayed silently brooding and didnt become full on villain, and like if he and squilf legitimately dated for a while and werent just courting). And then they can use that to actually grow Nightheart by having his toxic behaviors being called out. That's what we came up with- thats p much it summed up, I doubt it's heading there, but yknow. basically if it happens, it really could be interesting but ONLY as a temporary thing.
@lagggoat7170
@lagggoat7170 Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE if they dont end up mates, but become best friends. There are too few friendships in Warriors! He could still switch Clans, just dont have them end up romantically (as if that would ever happen...)
@rainbowskystar2740
@rainbowskystar2740 Жыл бұрын
@@lagggoat7170 As much as I'd love that to happen, the odds are against us. I don't believe that two protagonists in an arc, who weren't family members, were ever considered to be 'friends.' (I wish that Shadowsight and Rootspring could be that exception, but considering their minimal interactions, there's no 'friendship arc' between them.) I'm already bracing myself for the worst... :(
@myrtlemoons
@myrtlemoons Жыл бұрын
Reedwhisker in Mistystar's Omen: "DOGS CANNOT KILL ME!" Also Reedwhisker: *dies from dog*
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios Жыл бұрын
One thing I think RiverClan should do, is use the greencough outbreak as a way to explain away Mistystar and Reedwhisker's death. Boom you don't look super weak in front of the clans cause everyone is suffering, and now you get to ask for help from other medicine cats. Win win.
@cardemis7637
@cardemis7637 Жыл бұрын
The only time I've ever seen a cat repeat and memorize the warrior code was in the last arc when Rootpaw had to recite it for Dewspring.
@mintystem9170
@mintystem9170 Жыл бұрын
What I feel about the Greencough thing depends. If only 1 or 2 cats die it will feel like filler, but if a lot of cats die it will be great. I feel that cats will die as the Erins have developed a habit of killing cats in the second book.
@amblonyxx
@amblonyxx Жыл бұрын
I mean, it sounds bad to say but I would love mass greencough deaths! Enough for cats moving between clans to "dilute" the "pure blood" of each clan.
@waveeyes
@waveeyes Жыл бұрын
I just hope Bright doesn't die from it. I want her and Cloudtail to die together, snuggled up in the Elder's den in their sleep. Or at the very least she deserves something more memorable than greencough.
@lagggoat7170
@lagggoat7170 Жыл бұрын
Just in general a population trim would be nice. There are too many characters! Even the last few sickness plots didnt feel as impactful as it used to feel in S1
@munchkin6345
@munchkin6345 Жыл бұрын
One of my big predictions is that Bramblestar is going to step down, because we don’t like him but also since his mental health seems to be declining. I then think he’ll pull a Rowanclaw and return his nine lives. Squirrelflight will then die and so ThunderClan will be the second Clan without a leader and also they might be in a green cough epidemic Also did anyone else think that Frostpaw’s star-shaped leaf could point to Leafstar dying??
@munchkin6345
@munchkin6345 Жыл бұрын
Oh and another thing - did anyone realize that Rowankit pulled a Rowanstar and switched genders? She was a she-cat in River and is now a tom
@Yae_Miko.-simp
@Yae_Miko.-simp Жыл бұрын
I have a prediction too, The first book was “river”(river clan) The second”sky”(sky clan) The third “shadow”(shadow clan) I think the last 3 ones will be “thunder”, “wind”, and “star”
@M4t_P4tGT
@M4t_P4tGT Жыл бұрын
That was my prediction too lol
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
I agree that it would be hilarious if WindClan wasn’t included
@Yae_Miko.-simp
@Yae_Miko.-simp Жыл бұрын
@@Sheedystar_the_cat yeah
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
@@flowerthecat3 also the website revealed a blurb
@Yae_Miko.-simp
@Yae_Miko.-simp Жыл бұрын
@@flowerthecat3 yeah,i said
@mintystem9170
@mintystem9170 Жыл бұрын
This is an idea from a blogclan user, but I really like it: What if Nightheart falls in love with Sunbeam and assumes she feels the same way, and wants to move to Shadowclan, but when it’s announced at the Gathering Sunbeam rejects him in front of everyone
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
That could be a good way for them to avoid putting them together, but I personally find it hard to believe that NightXSun isn't going to happen at this point unfortunately lol
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz Night x Sun hasn’t even happened yet and I can already tell it will be C U R S E D!
@Corpse701
@Corpse701 Жыл бұрын
I'd only like that if that leads to him getting a villain arc.
@pikathemimikyu6655
@pikathemimikyu6655 Жыл бұрын
OUCH- I would just run away and become a kittypet at that point
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
Ok coming back to this, I was right! It’s SO cursed! Especially when Nightheart wants to watch her take a crap!? Wtf even is this series anymore?!
@thepokepoet9482
@thepokepoet9482 Жыл бұрын
I SWEAR IF THIS IS HOW BRIGHTHEART GOES- 😭😭😭😭😭😭 Also protect Rowankit and Frostpaw 😭
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
Please no!!! 😭😭😭 I love Brightheart!!! She can’t go, especially with her book coming up, and what would be the point of Rowankit if he/she is just gonna die
@falcon_arkaig
@falcon_arkaig Жыл бұрын
Goodness, when I read that BrightHeart started coughing and shit, and how NightHeart could HEAR how painful it was. This hurts so hard 😢
@falcon_arkaig
@falcon_arkaig Жыл бұрын
@@Sheedystar_the_cat Both of DoveWing's kits are toms as stated in the excerpt:p
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
@@falcon_arkaig I know I just said that in case they change it again lol
@Spottedstorm27
@Spottedstorm27 Жыл бұрын
@@Sheedystar_the_cat what book?! Where did they say she's getting a book?! I need to know! I love her!
@midnightauklet5203
@midnightauklet5203 Жыл бұрын
It makes me so happy to see more Sunbeam support as she’s my favourite of the protagonist. I thought Gullswoop mentioning Blazefire and her thoughts on him not being a “real” ShadowClan cat could be hinting that Berryheart is already starting to influence the clan, but I may be reaching a bit. I like that Sunbeam and Blazefire might still be friends, and I hope they will be. I also hope they talk about what wasn’t working in their relationship because Blazefire would sometimes just brush her off. I like the idea of Lightleap and her as a character but I also hate her because of how she treats Sunbeam. Kinda unfair of me but oh well It’s kinda weird that Sunbeam and Nightheart both have a mom who doesn’t like SkyClan(unless Sparkpelt’s opinion changed and I forgot) Also I need Fringewhisker and Sunbeam interactions it be so fun and cute
@midnightauklet5203
@midnightauklet5203 Жыл бұрын
I also hope Berryheart is more of a good speaker than fighter, we don’t have many of those types of villains in warriors
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Thanks for the comment ❤️
@amblonyxx
@amblonyxx Жыл бұрын
I would love Starclan (or whoever is communicating with Frostfur) to suggest a cat outside of Riverclan to lead it. I feel like that would cause absolute chaos! Bonus points if they pick Nightheart because he's firekin and then he just absolutely messes it up.
@lagggoat7170
@lagggoat7170 Жыл бұрын
Id love for Nightheart to be just as great as Firestar is - but accidentally and in a COMPLETELY different way. Have him be a leader young, then mess it up because he is too full of himself and to inexperienced - THEN have him learn from that, establishing instead a sort of council rule with experienced cats and abdicating or becoming just another member of that council.
@lagggoat7170
@lagggoat7170 Жыл бұрын
Like seriously, inexperienced baby leader Nightstar, chosen only because he is Firekin, not because he is suited to lead, would be hilarious, especially if he manages to bumble his clan into some sort of accidental betterment.
@cookie856
@cookie856 Жыл бұрын
@@lagggoat7170 Nigthhearth is the one who ask for (voted) leader election, right? XD
@sophiemcgeorge6623
@sophiemcgeorge6623 Жыл бұрын
Here’s something interesting: Kate Cary herself said she would “never trust Finchpaw.” And Finchlight says some pretty shady things in River
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Still doesn't make it feel any less forced tbh in my opinion lol
@sophiemcgeorge6623
@sophiemcgeorge6623 Жыл бұрын
True lol
@eshix4089
@eshix4089 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the SunLightBlaze OT3 camp. Jayfeather said that something stripped the area clean of catmint, so I think whatever did that knew what it was doing and was intentionally trying to weaken the Clans. And Frostpaw noted that Reedwhisker's wounds looked like they were made by a badger, so I think there's a very clear explanation: EVIL MIDNIGHT.
@n0brainjustvibes
@n0brainjustvibes Жыл бұрын
My Reedwhisker prediction was: Bear. The fandom's been having bear antagonists for years, it's not a stretch that the Erins would follow suit. That said, dogs sounds even more plausible. I think it's definitely going to be a non-cat 'creature'/'monster' type plot.
@Lightfall8921
@Lightfall8921 Жыл бұрын
My theorie is that there is a web of cats in each clan with certain suspicious cats as the leaders and one mastermind behind it all
@rainbowskystar2740
@rainbowskystar2740 Жыл бұрын
Prediction: Lionblaze is going to accidentally murder someone again
@kylieskousen9416
@kylieskousen9416 Жыл бұрын
lionblaze coughs in russetfur’s ghost’s face
@Danmeilover69
@Danmeilover69 Жыл бұрын
The trans coding for NightHeart is even heavier and more obvious in Sky.
@PancakeTheKat
@PancakeTheKat Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, the trans is strong with that one
@klltx2001
@klltx2001 Жыл бұрын
Coding implies intention though.
@9nikolai
@9nikolai Жыл бұрын
@@klltx2001 Not necessarily. A lot of coding happens by just copying whatever anyone else has written before without understanding any of it.
@TheWiseMysticalTree
@TheWiseMysticalTree Жыл бұрын
Cats can’t become trans bro
@deerlyqueery
@deerlyqueery Жыл бұрын
@@TheWiseMysticalTree Cats also don't speak to cat Gods, amputate limbs with sharp rocks, lift a fallen tree, shrug their shoulders, live in Clans like this, use herbs like medication, have magic super powers, etc etc but I guess trans cat is just way too crazy a thought to be possible.
@dreamiinotdream730
@dreamiinotdream730 Жыл бұрын
If Lightleap becomes cartoonishly evil like Tigerstar I will bust open my pockets and buy every single book of this arc. Pre order even. But also I kinda hope she doesn’t because she’s a Tigerstar clone.
@Spidermonkey43
@Spidermonkey43 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think that Lightleap murdered Reedwhisker like Sunnyfall pointed out and here’s why: Lightleap was upset bc she couldn’t go with the patrol into the Dark Forest so maybe she decided to prove herself by killing Reedwhisker, causing drama with riverclan, swooping in and saving the day when the problems spread to the next clans so she could prove herself. That or Reedwhiskers patrol murdered him bc you don’t just fall into an icy gorge and die like someone probably pushed him down there perhaps to either cause problems or to have a chance at being deputy/leader which is a repeated plot point. But idk. I also think someone purposefully led the dogs to Curlfeather and Frostpaw bc that’s a bit too much of a coincidence that Mistystar, Reedwhisker and Curlfeather died. I think someone killed all three of them by poisoning Mistystar, killing Reedwhisker, and leading the dogs to Curlfeather.
@flowerthecat3
@flowerthecat3 Жыл бұрын
Also I remember there was a point in the book where Sunbeam hears a sound like a cat fighting and then Lightleap appears so that adds to the Lightleap theory
@lnactive92
@lnactive92 Жыл бұрын
I CANT FIND THE POP CORN :0 Also i predict that Lightleap killed Reedwhisker. If you look at the map, the twoleg place is near ShadowClan border. Lightleap was also heard fighting. Also, she probably took him down to prove that she's brave. She may have decided to 'find' his body after to be a hero. tanks for coming to my ted talk
@_no_moon_
@_no_moon_ Жыл бұрын
I really, really hope they’re going to kill off so many background characters in this arc. Please. There’s too many. I think having a leaf-bare of panic and misery and death could make for so, so many interesting character moments for the still-living cats, and give them some ounce of individuality. I want a Black Death-esq plague to be the binding story that the 3 protagonists stories weave into in a useful way.
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
I saw on twitter that you weren’t feeling well, and I’m glad your feeling better!, I’m glad you have collaborated with Moon Akira And Sunnyfall to bring this awesome video, I have a dreaded feeling that they are gonna do another green cough outbreak which will kill a bunch of cats, one of my favorites is Brightheart and with her being old and sick, I really hope they don’t kill her off, also them making Rowankit a boy and then a girl is a riot because that’s exactly what they did with the last Rowan lol
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sheedystar. It means a lot to know that I have your support
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz of course! ❤ I’m so glad that I found you!, otherwise I would just be sitting here wondering why Moon and Akira didn’t upload today lol!, I love your content and I hope you keep doing it for many moons to come!
@Sheedystar_the_cat
@Sheedystar_the_cat Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz just got to the part where you talk about Brightheart 😢
@justarandomperson6240
@justarandomperson6240 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed listening to your theories and thoughts on the arc. I think you guys should collab more often
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Aw, thanks! I appreciate it
@shortstacks592
@shortstacks592 Жыл бұрын
After reading it- I think Sunbeam might reject Nightheart, as in it, she mentions, "And if he joins, I'll finally have a FRIEND in shadowclan." Z I like that Sunbeam stood up to her mother I think Duskfur was probably responsible for Reedfeathers death, or Berryheart, or even berryhearts group conspiring with the kinda group in Riverclan.
@Kaida_Kamado
@Kaida_Kamado Жыл бұрын
I’m still grieving over Bristlefrost ;-;
@CatsProLifeTips
@CatsProLifeTips Жыл бұрын
What would be great is if Sunbeam ended up as a mother figure to Nightheart; helping him realize that he is exaggerating the mean personalities of everyone around him since she has such a better grip on reality and morals...like after she figures out her own problems she can be there for nightheart, just not romantically because of obvious reasons everyone has already mentioned...however I wouldn’t want her to turn into a character just for nightheart bc she’s strong on her own and nighthearts main character vibes r just uh well they exist yk Meanwhile shadowclan is turning out to be a great cast of characters...I just hope they do smth with it. I also don’t want blazefire to be forgotten like stemleaf. I’m also actually kinda excited to see who is behind the killing river clan plot and I’m excited for berryheart as an evil mom figure bc there r just too many evil dads or grandfathers. Great video, I loved listening to this collab! U guys have great opinions and reasoning on ur own but together it was so fun!
@rainbowskystar2740
@rainbowskystar2740 Жыл бұрын
THAT WOULD BE SO CUTE 💜💜💜
@sirensong1794
@sirensong1794 Жыл бұрын
tbf to firestar he was adopted away from his mother and siblings and as far as we know doesn't know jake, he only met princess on accident later, so it's not like he left people who were actively in his life. most of what the books call attention to him leaving was his owners and even show they got a new cat (bc yeah cat owners would be really sad if their cat disappeared!)
@funkyfelineonthecase
@funkyfelineonthecase Жыл бұрын
NO WAY!!!!!! Oh my god, Hawkkz, collabing with the big leagues!!! This is insane, I’m so proud!! Personally, I can’t wait for sky, and I love hearing predictions for the story. Planning on trying to listen to this the whole way through!
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FUNKY ❤️ ❤️
@OliveAnimates12
@OliveAnimates12 Жыл бұрын
Omg all the people who inspired me to get into warrior cats in one big collaboration video! What could be better!? Nothing.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy the video
@mysryuza
@mysryuza Жыл бұрын
The cover gave me apprentice’s quest flashbacks
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
just wait until you hear what akira says later in the video lol
@mysryuza
@mysryuza Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz oop- 🫢
@waveeyes
@waveeyes Жыл бұрын
My theory for ASC is simple: I believe Sleekwhisker is back with a reformed Kin. In addition to this I also agree with the theory that some Clan cats are conspiring against the Code changes and that these cats will cause a lot of problems (though I don't think the conspirators are necessarily "evil" just that Sleekwhisker's group has manipulated them into thinking they must fight to preserve the Code). And I believe that these conspirators murdered Reedwhisker by luring him into a trap (I think Frostpaw was right about the cause of death being a badger. But I also think it was a trap), and from the Sky exerpt I also suspect that these cats destroyed the catmint supplies (it just feels too much of a coincidence that both ThunderClan and ShadowClan have lost their supply to just be bad luck).
@thatonepotato276
@thatonepotato276 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the minority here in that I love Nightheart. I will say Sunbeam is my favorite though. I find her the most interesting.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
I liked Nightheart at first, but it seems like they're going to keep playing up how edgy he is. It honestly seems like pandering just how hard they want to bully his character too. It's depressing really.
@Danmeilover69
@Danmeilover69 Жыл бұрын
You aren't the only one. I still like NightHeart, but he is starting to get on my nerves. But I still like him.
@midnightauklet5203
@midnightauklet5203 Жыл бұрын
Not the only one, I like a lot of aspects of Nightheart. I hope he has a good arc and I do like a lot of his chapters
@waveeyes
@waveeyes Жыл бұрын
I like him too. Especially the parts where he seems utterly fed up with ThunderClan thinking they're the best.
@raspberry4262
@raspberry4262 Жыл бұрын
I really want FrostPaw to be a villain, and FlamePaw/NightHeart to change clans not for a mate but just because he wants too
@pikathemimikyu6655
@pikathemimikyu6655 Жыл бұрын
I think your second theory is what they are leaning towards
@Ivypool123
@Ivypool123 Жыл бұрын
wait thats a long Video and all my favourite Warrior Cats KZfaq are in it i know this will be perfect even before watching it 😂😍
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I hope you enjoy it
@Candy-8448
@Candy-8448 Жыл бұрын
Somethingni noticed that i would like to point out, Nightheart seems to know a lot about clan past. More than any cat ever has. He is always mentioning something from the begining of the arc or some small detail we probably dont even remember. No other character has ever relayed past events as much as he does
@eshix4089
@eshix4089 Жыл бұрын
He mentions WindClan tunnelers and I have absolutely no idea where he could even have learned that.
@fennelfin
@fennelfin Жыл бұрын
Ipad kits Oh no Parsleykit how did you get on cocomelon
@Weirdanimalboy
@Weirdanimalboy Жыл бұрын
Mintkit, stop doing TikTok dances!
@fennelfin
@fennelfin Жыл бұрын
@@Weirdanimalboy NJNBU8G7OG7FU6D56IR65ID6J67KY6B8N
@flowerthecat3
@flowerthecat3 Жыл бұрын
Spotfur: For the last time Bristlekit, get off Instagram and play with your littermates!!
@lilybethwalters4433
@lilybethwalters4433 Жыл бұрын
It’s Splashtail tho... he was on the patrol when Reedwhisker died, he’s Frostpaw’s friend, she trusts him, he went with her to the moonpool and was a alone on “guard” for hours, totally could fake a sign and set a dog trap. It’s him for sure 🤷‍♀️
@pikathemimikyu6655
@pikathemimikyu6655 Жыл бұрын
Them putting emphasis on him in this book defenitly points to him being something important
@lilybethwalters4433
@lilybethwalters4433 Жыл бұрын
@@pikathemimikyu6655 he’s also in all these super convenient places every time something goes wrong. Plus I’d say at this point he’s really the only cat Frostpaw trusts besides Mothwing, who we know the Erins will never make evil
@pikathemimikyu6655
@pikathemimikyu6655 Жыл бұрын
@@lilybethwalters4433 "Trust no cat" is starting to make sense. Frostpaw feels that she can trust Splashtail, or maybe she will even more later in the book. I don't know if it will go as far as to make him evil, but I feel like he is going to betray or break the trust Frostpaw has in him in some way. He's probably apart of whatever conspiracy is going on with Berryheart and everyone else. Or maybe he is completely evil and did set all those traps. Unrelated but I bet Blazefire and Lightleap know something Sunbeam doesn't and that's why they have started spending so much time together (and why Blazefire isn't upset with Lightleap for his paws injury)
@kaykinz2549
@kaykinz2549 Жыл бұрын
4:15 if they are one problem, it could be that they killed Mistystar because she was the one that announced it all and brought every new rule up to the clans, and they might’ve figured Reedwhisker wouldn’t go against his mothers opinions? 🤔
@kaykinz2549
@kaykinz2549 Жыл бұрын
19:56 I swear they added in fernstripe and flipclaw into the allegiances later on because I looked for both of them forever and could not find them on the list at all 😂😂 maybe they were an after thought or I really just missed them the entire time
@xRaiofSunshine
@xRaiofSunshine Жыл бұрын
I think the cover IS just the apprentices quest recolored. Yeesh 😬 I wouldn’t be surprised considering the artist constantly recolors the same cats over and over. Also, my predictions: Nightheart eventually goes back to being Flameheart through dumb, contrived reasons because the authors really would do that. They’re not gonna do anything to change the status quo all that seriously, because then how could they milk the already dry Forbidden Romances/Starclan is Perfect Shut Up About It cow 🙄
@Spidermonkey43
@Spidermonkey43 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the authors reallllllllyyy like to milk existing plot points dry and even beyond that point. If we could get a new, original, plot that would be amazing.
@MartaTarasiuk
@MartaTarasiuk Жыл бұрын
My theory: Vengeful spirit of Millie is behind it all! She could talk to dogs, after all.
@Spectorwing
@Spectorwing Жыл бұрын
So I don't necessarily like night sun but I think thematically it could work. So nightheart and sunbeam reflect each other in what I can tell as their character arcs. Nightheart is desperate to define himself while being arrogant in assuming he knows everything about everyone around them vs sunbeam thinks about her identity as fitting it into the definition of her situation and peers. I also think flameheart's rebellious nature may encourage sunbeam to rebel against her mother. Also I hate the whole firestar legacy plot. I think so many problems would be fixed if you replaced firestar with larksong. Imagine flamepaw doesn't care or maybe resents his father for not being around no matter how harsh it is. Maybe instead of flame his prefix was thrush or something idk. And his sufix was song. Him wanting to change it leads to spark getting defensive because that was her mate who she clearly cared for deeply and now one of the only things she had left of him was rejecting him. Maybe in comparison finchlight idealizes him. Makes his small tasks a bigger deal than they actually were which leads to conflict. But you could explore this dynamic of a single parent trying to balance personal grief and raising kits and how hard that is. Like mothflight done better. Also this would be a perfect Segway where nightheart tries to compare his situation to frostpaw's as if his parents were also dead or abusive to the point where it was worse and him being called out on it. You know letting the main character make bad choices? Side bar on that whole night sun thing I actually had a close friend who nightheart and these chapters reminded me a lot of. The self pitying and self-centered ness at least. And I find myself relating a lot to sunbeam as someone who tries to define situations and action plans constantly and the working to escape dealing with your problems is 100 percent something I'm guilty of which has changed how optimistic I was towards this ship initially and obviously it's for all the wrong reasons I just can't help but projecting when on my own reading these books and I want sunbeam not to fall into that mess.
@skygazer6082
@skygazer6082 Жыл бұрын
As I was watching this I had the random idea of Thunderclan giving up Nightheart for the Catmint, and I don't know if that's stupid, or warriors stupid.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
I think they actually *are* going to do that LOL - just not completely give him up, more like send him on a mission for it or something you know?
@Corpse701
@Corpse701 Жыл бұрын
Why do I love this idea
@randomlafourche
@randomlafourche Жыл бұрын
With Bramblestar acting weird I'm kind of prone to think that something is going to happen to all the leaders and its up to the medicine cats to do stuff
@VolleyPuppy91
@VolleyPuppy91 Жыл бұрын
Not me at 18:00 minutes going “BUMBLESTRIPE HAD A KID!?” , I had to look it up and I think Moon meant Thornclaw and Blossomfall not Bumble. I was so confused because I was thinking, who the heck decided to be with BUMBLESTRIPE? 😂
@Corpse701
@Corpse701 Жыл бұрын
That's what I was saying, I was like since when?
@EuqinimodArt
@EuqinimodArt Жыл бұрын
I loved this mini-podcast! if you all are interested, i'd be cool to see more of these!
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Maybe in the future
@moonstar_draws6283
@moonstar_draws6283 Жыл бұрын
I really, REALLY, don't want Nightheart x Sunbeam. Please. I really hope that Sumbeam ends up being a role model of Nightheart rather than a love interest Oh no...What if Nightheart gets sent to Skyclan at the same as Sunbeam does for Catmint...no...and then they meet again...and fall in love...no no no I don't want this please don't, warrior cats! PLEASE
@feathertailfanspoofs
@feathertailfanspoofs Жыл бұрын
Myrtlepbloom
@PixylMawthz
@PixylMawthz Жыл бұрын
Nightheart will go to Skyclan to prove himself or steal from them. And he'll listen to Leafstar talk about how great Firestar was because she's his last living friend.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
man, "last living friend" never really registered w/ me until you said that lol. but yeah, I can totally see that happening.
@PixylMawthz
@PixylMawthz Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz I can see Leafstar being the kind of person who actually KNOWS firestar and will say that theyre not the same, unlike everyone else hero worshipping him. But also whos to say what they'll do.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
@@PixylMawthz Well, unfortunately with that article about Nightheart existing it's hard to say what they'll really do, but I think Nightheart actually turning out to be a lot like Firestar (in his own way) is going to be one of the central themes of his character arc. Which doesn't really make me understand *why* they would do a story like this if they're only going to validate all of these assumptions about him from the other characters that Nightheart hates so much. It just doesn't make much sense lol
@PixylMawthz
@PixylMawthz Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz I have SO many theories on this tbh
@cookie856
@cookie856 Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz Nightheart is somewhat similar to Firestar - but probably not the idealized version XD
@leomorris7573
@leomorris7573 Жыл бұрын
i think there was a singular mention of rootspring reciting the warrior code for his training some time in early tbc? also i have a comprehensive list of suspects and potential motives for reedwhiskers death in riverclan from combing and over analyzing river that im just going to copy paste a. the patrol reedwhisker went missing on consisted of curlfeather, podlight (curlfeather's brother), splashtail (fognose's brother), and fognose (splashtail's sister) b. there was a loud yowl around the time reedwhisker disappeared, loud enough that it could be heard from shadowclan, but none of the patrol, who were nearby, investigated it. they instead chose to just go home without reedwhisker c. curlfeather and splashtail are both part of the patrol to find reedwhisker, curlfeather brings them to the last place they saw him (again, which would definitely have been close enough to hear him yell from if it could be heard from shadowclan), and when frostpaw tries to bring the patrol towards where reedwhiskers body is splashtail calls her stupid and tries to discourage her from going this way. we later learn that splashtail and frostpaw were close friends, so this seems odd unless hes trying to keep her from finding the body d. curlfeather is the first to point out the scratches on reedwhiskers body, commenting immediately that they must have been caused by the rocks when he fell. when frostpaw comments they look like badger clawmarks curlfeather is described as snapping at her which, again, is very out of character from such a supportive mother e. after frostpaw finds a leaf that has been carved like a star in her bedding, podlight (curlfeather's brother, also suggested he could be temporary leader when reedwhisker first disappeared) suggests that they let starclan decide through frostpaw who should be leader f. duskfur (curlfeather's mother) and curlfeather decide that frostpaw and splashtail should go to the moonpool to decide the new leader. when frostpaw is down by the moonpool, she hears a rustle behind her and decides it must have been the wind, then when going back up finds the curled feather sign
@Shsy7573
@Shsy7573 Жыл бұрын
I cannot express how much I HATE how they ENDED the 1st book with saying they were gonna get the other Clans involved in helping wi/ the RoverClan problem. Then they IMMEDIATELY go “oop, changed my mind hehe!” The next book. Like… WHY END IT LIKE THAT IF UR NOT GONNA FOLLOW THROUGH! What’s the POINT of including a hook for the next book if your not actually gonna do it. It just seems so backsides and pointless. Like “it’s time we get the other clans involved…. Oh, haha, yeah 8 changed my mind.”
@harperthegreat
@harperthegreat Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh all my favorite warriors KZfaqrs talking about this! I’m so happy-
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy the video
@Peyton_S
@Peyton_S Жыл бұрын
Yes I like Sunbeam too! She’s my favourite protagonist in the arc so far!
@CrystalKitty1220
@CrystalKitty1220 Жыл бұрын
My theory is that the books are named after and centered around which clan is going to be the one to drift away from the others. I think each clan is going to drift apart from the others, and in the last one there's going to be some kind of big event that they join back together for.
@ironwolf5802
@ironwolf5802 Жыл бұрын
Oh, my 4 favorite Warrior Cat channels together.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@mysryuza
@mysryuza Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Nightheart became leader of Bloodclan out of spite, becoming the first villain-protag who is directly descended from Firestar 🤔 Honestly, I have been waiting for a villainous Firestar descendant since Sparkpelt 😭
@FireKAT91
@FireKAT91 Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, I'm really excited for this one! I love all of your channels. Also, I highly recommend you check out Mintystem's channel if you haven't yet. She has an awesome video on who killed Reedwhisker and theories about what will happen in Sky. Keep up the great work you guys! :)
@ashj3427
@ashj3427 Жыл бұрын
I hope you all will do videos like this for the future main series books! This was so fun to watch and I love all of your content so much :)
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it ❤️
@2simpleofamango281
@2simpleofamango281 Жыл бұрын
What I want happen: Berryheart is a villain, Frostpaw a villain, Nightheart: Hollyleaf but eviler and hating Firestar and killing his family Sun: Dies. Lightleap: villain. Mosskit but possesses Tigarstar and uhhh Hawkheart being eviler than evil cat
@midnightauklet5203
@midnightauklet5203 Жыл бұрын
Frostpaw villain arc would be so cool
@angel_bits2822
@angel_bits2822 Жыл бұрын
Finally got some time to watch/listen to this collab! :D i was so happy to see it popping up in my notifications
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Aw, that’s great! I hope you enjoy it ❤️
@cinderacerun4963
@cinderacerun4963 Жыл бұрын
I think something important might be how they named the books so far. There are five clans and six books? What if they somehow add a new clan that the main characters made by themselves?
@endereye964
@endereye964 Жыл бұрын
I think their probably going to count Starclan as the sixth clan, so we’d have books called River, Sky, and then some variation of Thunder, Wind, Shadow, and Star.
@Corpse701
@Corpse701 Жыл бұрын
Did everyone forget warrior clan existed.
@endereye964
@endereye964 Жыл бұрын
@@Corpse701 No. I haven’t forgotten-I just don’t think they’re going to make ANOTHER whole new clan out of that group. The forest territory is too far away and it’s pretty clear Warriorclan is just kittypets pretending to be Warriors. They’re still kittypets, they love their housefolk and don’t truly understand what it would be like to live in the Clans. I could see a kittypet maybe growing up with that group and deciding they wanted to be a real Warrior, and traveling to find the Clans-but I don’t see the entire group becoming an actual clan. Not to mention they already did the ‘new clan forms and eventually joins the others’ with Skyclan. Honestly there are too many clans as is. How long had the fandom complained about never seeing modern Riverclan before this arc released? There are already too many clans for the authors to focus on and give enough attention to.
@yuukokagami
@yuukokagami Жыл бұрын
On the topic of SunNight being a “pOtEnTiAl cOuPlE” (PLEASE, JUST DON’T), something they *could* do but probably won’t, but would be pleasantly surprised if they did, is have two POV characters of the OPPOSITE SEX be, and I know this is hard to imagine, be JUST platonic friends together; and if they DESPERATELY need there to be romance for whatever reason, then they could explore them TRYING to be in a relationship, it doesn’t work out, and they’re STILL friends with each other by the end of the arc, given they love forcing unnecessary romance into each of their plots’ arcs. So much romance has always been shoehorned in ever since the 1st series, forbidden or not forbidden, and I’m almost certain that fans, young or old, enjoy it like how people enjoy trash reality TV: they’re watching a dumpster fire of a relationship unfold and either love it or hate it depending on how it’s written and presented. And idk if this is an unpopular opinion, but I honestly related to Nightheart a lot, not completely, but a lot when it comes to how my family’s treated me over the years. I don’t want him to be completely become the arc’s and Clan’s punching bag, but if they were to continue it, I’d honestly like to see what would happen if he either became a new (and our first other than the Clear Sky trainwreck) POV villain of the arc, or directly involved with and affecting the villains’ plot is some sort of way. It would be interesting and NEW to have a POV character become a villain, which I know is somewhat similarish to Shadowsight’s plot, but since Nightheart’s so much more edgy and a loner it’d just be interesting to see THAT kind of story unfold around him, rather than the “maybe the Firestar was inside you all along” plot they’ll probably try and go with… >:P Then again I wouldn’t trust the writers whatsoever with how they’ve been handling writing new characters and stories over the arcs, so a lot of these theories and hopes I have will probably never get answered (main reason why I’m writing my own fanfic; I can implement interesting things into my own story MY way >:3) Idk if ya'll are going to continue with these podcats podcast prediction eps, but if you did, I'd watch the crap outta them, I love listening in on discussions and theorizing about current Warriors content~ 😸
@Answeredriddle
@Answeredriddle Жыл бұрын
Oooooh very excited to see new vids with creators talking about the new material 👀👀 Always enjoyed the past livestream convos, happy to sit down and watch y’all chat!
@Answeredriddle
@Answeredriddle Жыл бұрын
“*I* care about Berrynose!” “Berrynose has layers.” “That’s gotta be a real small onion.” I’m dying thank you
@dudley1
@dudley1 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure no one shares this opinion but river is my favorite book I’ve read evr
@SageKJS
@SageKJS 2 ай бұрын
Out of all of the arcs in Warriors, it is definitely my favorite first book of an ark by far. It was so intriguing.
@echo5435
@echo5435 Жыл бұрын
I love Warriors so much but there are way too many books now, I think it’s time to end the series after this one
@Ivypool123
@Ivypool123 Жыл бұрын
yes i agree i am scared that the story will get really boring and that many people will stop reading it because there are to many books
@lightbulb900watts
@lightbulb900watts Жыл бұрын
I'd love for this to be a regular thing with u guys, it'd make a great podcast
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Aw, thank you! ❤️
@lj2659
@lj2659 Жыл бұрын
I like Nightheart. He seems like more angry Rootspring. Is him thinking everyone hates him is justified? No of course not. But a lot of people who have depression/anxiety think like that. He is just an angry guy and I feel for him. He’s lonely and frustrated. Frostpaw is just another medicine and to me Sunbeam just has no character?? She’s just a little bit less enthusiastic Bristlefrost
@rainbowskystar2740
@rainbowskystar2740 Жыл бұрын
He's a lil emo Rootspring-- black fur and all XD
@beaweeng282
@beaweeng282 Жыл бұрын
Four of my favorite youtubers in one video
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Aww, thank you!
@yarrowleef
@yarrowleef Жыл бұрын
tbh i thought Splashtail was being presented to us as a somewhat reoccurring cat because he's going to be chosen as the future leader. mainly because SOMEONE has to and there seems to be no other candidates. they made a comment about how the senior warriors don't want to take charge anymore, so it wouldnt be strange for it to go the route of "the young cats are the way of the future because they're more open to things changing, unlike the stubborn olds who recently gave mistystar a heart attack" or w/e. thats what i figured the point of "heres a generically nice guy" was 😂 i cant see him being suspiciously evil, so idk what other purpose he'd have....unless they just want to give frostpaw a generic forbidden love interest too and...god willing thats not it
@rainbowskystar2740
@rainbowskystar2740 Жыл бұрын
I think everyone just sees a RiverClan cat with dialogue and goes like: THERE IT IS! THE MURDERER!!!
@rileyywhited
@rileyywhited Жыл бұрын
Please nooooooo sun x night Please don’t do it erins
@rileyywhited
@rileyywhited Жыл бұрын
It’s making me sad
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
IKRR they wanna do it SOO bad though LOL 💀
@angie-wt5os
@angie-wt5os Жыл бұрын
Finally getting around to watching this ahh! You 4 are my favorites and I'm super excited to hear what you have to say!!!
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it angie! Thanks for all the support
@angie-wt5os
@angie-wt5os Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz i very much did enjoy it! would definitely watch future commentary commentary streams
@solslowlyfadinq9457
@solslowlyfadinq9457 Жыл бұрын
One thing I theorized (that has since been disproven by the preview thing of Shadow) was that if the theory that Frostpaw only gets signs of people before they die is what the authors were going with, the star-shaped leaf Frostpaw found may insinuate that Leafstar was going to die. Unfortunately that theory didn’t go anywhere that I can tell but it’s still an interesting thing to think about. Definitely made for a fun late-night Instagram story topic though-
@Icannothink
@Icannothink Жыл бұрын
my prediction is that at the end of the ark all cats will see the code changes are good squirrel flight becomes an elder and nothing else but the warriro code changes in the world
@lemitak3867
@lemitak3867 Жыл бұрын
What a collaboration. 👍 (Pretend my comment was very cool, and good, and stuff. I love all of your channels! :)
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
Aw, thank you!
@_Gizmos_
@_Gizmos_ Жыл бұрын
Bro if clan warrior clan shows up it will be the best thing that has ever happened in this series
@schaefer_hund
@schaefer_hund Жыл бұрын
Glad to see new content and that you seem to be feeling better! It's been cool seeing your collaborations with other Warriors KZfaq community members, I think it's a great idea. Some I tend to see more eye to eye with than others about the series and it makes for a really interesting discussion, getting various points of view on the same thing at once. I know very little about the new arc yet (beyond Nightheart 100% not at all being anything like Firestar one bit, haha) so I admit I was a little lost, but lines like "Ashfur drilled a hole in StarClan and now it's cold" easily kept me going 😂 Looking forward to more as always! (Real quick, since it'll take me throughout the day to finish an 80 minute video probably 😅 @11:42 - Graystripe ending up with Silverstream in StarClan? Since I'm so behind, did that just completely fly over my head or was that a joke? Because damn, that'd be a raw deal for Millie... she uprooted her entire life for him and was his mate for most of his life. That would be like choosing your college girlfriend for eternity over your wife of 30 years 😶)
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
The thing with Graystripe is more-so implied than it is explicit canon, but at the end of TBC Graystripe meets them both in StarClan and I think there was a line about him padding off w/ Silverstream or something. I'm not entirely sure though because it's been so long since I last read that book, but yeah lol Thank you so much!! I'm glad to finally be back ❤️
@schaefer_hund
@schaefer_hund Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz Ahhh, okay, thanks for clearing that up! I'd prefer to think they just worked out some kind of poly situation, this is now my headcanon solution to the multiple-mates-in-StarClan dilemma 😆
@theonewhoknows4978
@theonewhoknows4978 Жыл бұрын
Love how this discussion just turned into all of them messing with each other in the end, pretty funny
@mary-raellachambers-ayres88
@mary-raellachambers-ayres88 Жыл бұрын
All my fav KZfaqrs in one vid :0
@hazelgrunts
@hazelgrunts Жыл бұрын
I genuinely enjoyed River (the first warrior cats book I’ve enjoyed since Shattered Sky) and I hope that the quality doesn’t drop off from here. What I really want is Nightheart to have a story that doesn’t involve romance (especially with Sunbeam)
@midnightauklet5203
@midnightauklet5203 Жыл бұрын
Evil Whistlepaw Hope Theory Whistlepaw has shown no signs of being evil yet, this is why it is a hope theory. My hopes for her is that she becomes friends with Frostpaw because of how vulnerable and young she is. Whistlepaw wants to manipulate Frostpaw to gain control over RiverClan by making Frostpaw her puppet. I’m 99% sure this won’t happen but I would be happy if Whistlepaw did anything interesting this arc. I mean she is one of the few cats to change from warrior app to medic app
@firestarwaca8336
@firestarwaca8336 Жыл бұрын
That might sound stupid, as long as Nightheart doesn't become a villain. He will be definitely a leader.... somehow
@firestarwaca8336
@firestarwaca8336 Жыл бұрын
Also even though my Firestar is one of my favorites cat, this Firestar nonsense is just Stupid
@Corpse701
@Corpse701 Жыл бұрын
Aw man but I really want nightheart to become a villain.
@Meh_idk__
@Meh_idk__ Жыл бұрын
For She-cats as main characters / main character love interest they’ll either turn into queens at some point or die
@1ndiebird
@1ndiebird Жыл бұрын
IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS!! 💚💚
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
ENJOY!!!
@BinaStaley
@BinaStaley Жыл бұрын
I missed this quite a bit it’s nice to see a new version of the cat cast
@chelsiecastro8222
@chelsiecastro8222 Жыл бұрын
Can Mothwing be involved in the River Clan concpiracy? Frostpaw two or three times wondered should she distrust Mothwing or not remembering her mothers last words. It might be relevant to the plot
@dogegirl1383
@dogegirl1383 Жыл бұрын
I really wish nightxsun would go like this: Nightheart falls in love Sunbeam says no Nightheart realizes that he just wanted someone who cared about his emotions Sunbeam and nightheart are best friends Nightheart and sunbeam work out their respective subplots (sunbeam with her mother and the whole code changes argument. Nightheart with his “firestar legacy” stuff) This could include frost paw a little more, but that’s just an idea of mine. It’s not fleshed out and I have no idea how this could relate to the main plot.
@fuzzyclaws5379
@fuzzyclaws5379 Жыл бұрын
Ngl I hope the kin comes back in this arc
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz Жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem to think Sleekwhisker will make a return again eventually, so I don't think it's too far off! Maybe it'll happen someday :)
@fuzzyclaws5379
@fuzzyclaws5379 Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz Berryheart did mention the kin in the last book so maybe they are dropping hints
@cipher8818
@cipher8818 Жыл бұрын
My prediction is this: Nightheart is gunna end up joining Shadowclan to go be with Sunbeam as another way to make differences between him and firestar, however in doing so basically mirrors Firestar joining the clans in a way... Idk that just my prediction based off of the one scene in the last book and listening to this. Which if this happens...imma be a bit annoyed honestly xD
@sandcloud5010
@sandcloud5010 Жыл бұрын
I loved this book
@ranpo_edogawa
@ranpo_edogawa Жыл бұрын
i havent watched the full video yet nor read either of the books, but after hearing that Mistystar and Reedwhisker were killed off and there's suspicious circumstances around everything, my mind went to Mapleshade since that's the last of Appledusk's known kin in Riverclan and the Erin's love milking her character to death. I'm really *really* freaking hoping that this is just a coincidence because I am sick and tired of them bringing her back to be the mastermind behind so many plot points. And this is coming from someone who's favorite book is Crookedstar's Promise.
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