We're finally having the Banlist debate! | Heart of the Cast #10

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Heart of the Cast

Heart of the Cast

3 ай бұрын

In this episode @Farfa ⁠⁠&⁠⁠ @JoshuaSchmidtYGO ⁠⁠get into the topic everyone has been asking for: the (potential) upcoming Forbidden & Limited List Update! We're also talking about the history and concept of the list as a whole!
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@Cr4nched
@Cr4nched 3 ай бұрын
Farfa be looking like a Skyrim NPC
@lanceb557
@lanceb557 3 ай бұрын
LMAO he looks like a Skyrim NPC from a town 🤣 Is he going to tell us about that arrow to the knee?
@Dinsho_
@Dinsho_ 3 ай бұрын
clean cut looking well put together...if that's npc behavior maybe being a npc isn't bad after all
@WShoup9818
@WShoup9818 3 ай бұрын
You pick a wrong time to be lost friend.
@leodeleon3990
@leodeleon3990 3 ай бұрын
Diabolical but true.
@lanceb557
@lanceb557 3 ай бұрын
​​@@Dinsho_ Quit glazing all over a GOD DAMN Skyrim NPC 😂 AKA Farfa, he isnt the devil but he isn't even that good at this GOD DAMN Game we play. LET'S FUCKING GO!!!!
@masterh2o2
@masterh2o2 3 ай бұрын
A YGO podcast that according to KZfaq is about World of Warcraft
@mikehawk8984
@mikehawk8984 3 ай бұрын
Lol well maybe youtube is just taking into account Farfa being an OG WoW player 😂😂
@np_vice
@np_vice 3 ай бұрын
I have a little bit of constructive criticism for the upcoming episodes, because I enjoy the podcast a lot and I am always looking forward for another episode. So, I feel like Josh cuts off Nadir a little bit to much. I would like to have more of a conversation between you two, since at the moment it seems that Nadir prepared the topic and provides the structure/ schedule of each episode and Josh talks about each point a lot. Whenever Nadir wants to add something interesting, that leads the discussion into a new direction, Josh immediately interrupts him. It would be nice if you two could hear out each other a bit more and increase Nadirs speech share on each point you are talking about :)
@jamesonnguyen1124
@jamesonnguyen1124 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, i was listening while doing some chores and after a while I felt I was only listening to Josh.
@caio_vii
@caio_vii 3 ай бұрын
6:30 I know it's different than what Farfa said, but fun story anyway: back in 2018, Firewall was reprinted in the Mega Tins, before getting banned. I live in Brazil, and if you guys remember, pre-covid we had HUGE delays on products here (Farfa even made a video about the Summon Sorceress situation in Brazil), and it wasn't different with the Tins. The point is, Firewall got banned BEFORE the Tins got here, so yeah, we opened "new" product with a banned card.
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 3 ай бұрын
Oh wow. That must have SUCKED 😅
@JasonBoos2005
@JasonBoos2005 3 ай бұрын
what video was that?
@caio_vii
@caio_vii 3 ай бұрын
@@JasonBoos2005 search for "summon sorceress come to Brasil"
@leviathan5207
@leviathan5207 3 ай бұрын
We got that last year with branded expulsion. I was banned in February I think, but still got a reprint in the tin at the end of the year.
@ThunderflySc2
@ThunderflySc2 3 ай бұрын
​@@leviathan5207 tbf it was a common reprint so it didn't felt like a lost pulled at least for me
@Michael-hs7pr
@Michael-hs7pr 3 ай бұрын
I like limiting Flamberge, because it makes Nib more effective, but still does not kill it. You summon a random other fire monster with temple and convert the nib token into link spider to end on S:P plus hand traps.
@Guythatlivesaquietlife
@Guythatlivesaquietlife 3 ай бұрын
listening to this episode after the new ocg banlist makes so much sense
@ducky36F
@ducky36F 3 ай бұрын
53:14 why does Poplar have 3 effects that are all good? Why doesn’t flamburge target for its GY effect? So crazy
@shawnjavery
@shawnjavery 3 ай бұрын
Poplar wasn't really what broke fire decks. Its well designed in that it fixes the problems snake eyes had as a game plan. I don't even find the standard snake eyes line particularly over powered or unfair, the big problem is that oss can summon any fire so the ceiling on the lines are just absurd. Like the diabelle engine was already bannably good without poplar, which made it even harder to punish them because stopping witch/wanted poster suddenly had a lot more punishes since poplar would let you get to oss as opposed to before where it was a relatively safe thing to stop the witch. Like you can hold effect negation for oss resolving but thats's punishable in its own way, it gives oss in gy which gaurentees either a draw or follow up for next turn and they can get linkuriboh in gy to dodge interaction on ss of the level 1. Also prom princess is worded extremely gross. Why does it get to trigger when a monster is summoned on the opponent's side of the field, and why can it target any monster they control instead of what's just summoned?
@justawarlord
@justawarlord 3 ай бұрын
@@shawnjavery polar was what broke flame decks before polar the decks did fuck all.
@UTgohan
@UTgohan 3 ай бұрын
17:43 the emergency banlist at that time was to hit the dad return decks more then ddt, they banned dimension fusion and limited return from the different dimension to one and semi limited allure of darkness.
@phantomphoenix22
@phantomphoenix22 3 ай бұрын
Posting this while halfway through this episode. Opinion may or may not change, after finishing. Coming from Cardfight Vanguard, we have something called Choice Restrictions. Basically, you take any 2+ Cards that may be deemed as an issue and restrict them as a pair. Example Card A & Card B are restricted. If you have even a single copy of Card A, you cannot use Card B (and vice versa). It would make deck building choices a lot more varied, as well as addressing any potential issues. Just as an example (please don't roast me too hard, as I don't have a full understanding of the Current format) Choice Restrict Diabellstar with Flamberge Dragon (again. Just an example). Again, just a take. Maybe a good one, maybe a bad one. But just a take.
@polemeisterseven2443
@polemeisterseven2443 3 ай бұрын
We have a similar system in Duel Links actually. In DL, you can have a number of limited cards of the same restriction, of different types, equal to the restriction. For example, card A and card B are limited to 2 - you can have 2 copies of one but not the other, but you can also have 1 copy each of A and B. That’s why it has a limit 3 category too - which inevitably confuses a lot of new players.
@ivanmaterazzo2631
@ivanmaterazzo2631 3 ай бұрын
I've already heard of this kind of solution didn't know it came from CFV. Tbf if you are not allowed to play Witch+ Ash/Flamberge you somehow achieve the same result of banning one of them. I don't see much of a difference besides keeping those engines available for other decks. That's cool but having the Witch package in Kashtira doesn't make it so much playable and Witch would look so much worse than b4.
@phantomphoenix22
@phantomphoenix22 3 ай бұрын
@polemeisterseven2443 I'm familiar with the Limit 3 of Duel Links. I don't think that would work as well in paper YGO, due to deck space being much wider, and thus can adjust ratios accordingly. In my stated example, applying a limit 3 to both Flamberge, and Diabellstar would PROBABLY (again, for clarification purposes, I'm not 100% familiar with the format, so I'm not 100% concrete on deck building) be played at 2 Copies (if people aren't doing so already), and the one Flamberge Dragon (or Vice Versa). So, in a sense, the Limit 3 would only make more space for either non-engine pieces, or extra enablers for the engine. Would be worth a try though.
@MansMan42069
@MansMan42069 3 ай бұрын
This is something I've been advocating for Yu-Gi-Oh. Beyond Semi-Limited, Limited, and Forbidden, we need an Exclusive list. Like Choice Restriction, if you wish to play Card A, you cannot play Card B. Some cards are more problematic, and Excludes you from playing a lot more cards. Because in reality, most problematic cards are only problems because of unintended synergy with cards from a certain archetype. Example, Union Carrier abused Dragon Buster Destruction Sword and caused Dragon Buster to be banned for a while and killed Buster Blader as an archetype. So for Yu-Gi-Oh, toxic cards like Halqifibrax and Rhongomyniad are problems because of other cards like Auroradon and Gossip Shadow/Numbers Evail, respectively. With the Exclusive banlist, if you want to play Rhongomyniad, you cannot play the cards that cheat it out, but perfectly legal in pure Heroic Challenger.
@Adrianovaz2007
@Adrianovaz2007 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if Vanguard did this first because Duel Masters also has the Duo Hall of Fame restriction where for example for a time you couldnt play Romanesk with either Crest of Mother or Soulswap; and currently the same is true for Momoking JO and Momokingdam X. Romanesk was pretty early in the history of the game I think.
@RedmanRed33
@RedmanRed33 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone else remember nine months of nekroz format because I do
@Ricozaza
@Ricozaza 3 ай бұрын
Farfa’s hair looking crisp🔥
@BigMac0369
@BigMac0369 3 ай бұрын
The beard as well
@VillyIsThatYou
@VillyIsThatYou 3 ай бұрын
I had bought a case of BOSH, because I wanted a lot of the cards from that set, many Secret Rare, in playsets. I planned to play the PePe deck. Man did that emergency list brake me. I quit for like half a year after that because I was so upset having spent all that money.
@pavolspiska5172
@pavolspiska5172 3 ай бұрын
The reason why sp should eventually be banned is that it basically functions as the new Verte. You can stop what your opponent is mainly going for, but if they have two bodies they can put it into this monster that gets incremental advantage ever turn (just like dpe or dragoon). The fact that it also does more than most link 3s in the game is also absurd
@hurshjha106
@hurshjha106 3 ай бұрын
I think there are cases when consistency hits change how a deck plays. The biggest example I can think of is limiting delicious, where because you cant rely on my friend reveal 3 delicious the deck changed to going second, added other engines, etc.
@geek593
@geek593 3 ай бұрын
The memories are so mechanically different than other cards that they might as well be asterisked like Malicious. The vast majority of OCG consistency hits just exist to lower the consistency by completely arbitrary amounts instead of solving root issues.
@yaminegira9239
@yaminegira9239 3 ай бұрын
think that frequent enough scheduled banlists are kinda better overall cause just cause you have a set date doesnt mean that you have to ban things if the format is generally fine. in cases like those they could focus on looking at things that can be removed from it. and with more frequent banlists you can get away with smaller hits to meta decks. also with regards to snake eyes a scheduled banlist actually is great cause you know how long it will take for the deck to get hit and people would prob at least have some solace in the fact that there would be something that mighr be done about it in how ever long until the next banlist either with direct or indirect hits.
@fernandoibarra8492
@fernandoibarra8492 3 ай бұрын
Someone said that Farfa looked like skinny DJ Khaled and now I can't unsee it
@Gravitysonic0
@Gravitysonic0 2 ай бұрын
2 things for future episodes. 1- maybe consider bringing some Rush Duel Links folks since it's the only way for western players who don't own a Switch to play it in an official format. 2- on the extra deck episode you guys should ABSOLUTELY bring to light how fusion summon with super poly is being pushed mostly as generic mass removal rather than a summoning mechanic
@randomgenretalk8151
@randomgenretalk8151 3 ай бұрын
Since Snake Eyes is a big topic, there is a hand trap that i start to use against that deck that has in my opinion a good enough impact on them. This hand trap is called Knightmare Incarnation Idlee, it special summons itself if the total number of link monster on the field have a link rating of 8 or higher. Once special summoned it send all link monsters to the GY if your opponent has more link monsters on their side of the field, it also protects all Lv. 9 monster (her included) from being destroyed, so Promethean Princess can't destroy her bevor activating her effect. In mirror Matches it's better because you also can summon 1-2 link monsters to get the rating high enough. But this cards helped me a lot, she is like Zeus just for link monsters. I hope this card can help some people out if they struggle against Snake Eyes. But of course decide for yourself if this card is worth playing or side decking.
@hermit3043
@hermit3043 3 ай бұрын
Nice suggestion. Might be a good side-deck card.
@ziggystardust1973
@ziggystardust1973 3 ай бұрын
What a strange time for an upload, it's the middle of the night for both of them.
@super10193
@super10193 3 ай бұрын
Farfa went from 480p npc to 4K UHD Gigachad
@Thegameshadow1
@Thegameshadow1 3 ай бұрын
This podcast is so nice. The channel is amazing.
@NightyKnight09
@NightyKnight09 26 күн бұрын
A tear vs snake eye format would be kind of interesting. A water vs fire, one using lots of handtraps one using lots of engine, the mirrors would be interesting considering how the handtraps would be chosen especially where both utilize the graveyard. I would be ok with that format
@IC-23
@IC-23 Ай бұрын
I wish Zealantis was a light monster tbh the ability to retriger Y and Z after doing something like making knightmare gryphon shuffling gryphon back with the fiendsmith and resummoning gryphon to your main monster zone sounds fun
@CaptianAlvin3645
@CaptianAlvin3645 3 ай бұрын
Banning oak is a good hit from a pure snake eye perspective. The power to ss even one monster is actually crazier then you realize and the fact that he can also ss from the deck is crazy too. By banning him if the only thing they can do is normal summon ash, ash will now always go into flamberge and now you have either linkurboh and flamberge on the field which can’t go into masq without extenders or they use the card they set with temple to go into flamberge which keeps linkurboh in the deck. Bonfire will now also search for snake eyes birch so they can get another body on the field which makes it suitable to ash blossom and droll. If you ash bonefire they will hitta and take ash and then princess which can still lead to an otk going 2nd but going first they will have princess, revive flamberge, and ash and pop from flamberge effect (if you d.d crow now this effect won’t even go off cause they only have 2 instead of 3 lvl 1 monsters). This is all with I:p in the extra deck still and they are locked to fire so now they have to make make amblow and then I:p setting amblo in the spell zone making nib more effective since they use flamberge effect on amblo so temple is not that good now or they make sunlight wolf and then linkurboh then decide talker effectively having to set a snake eyes monster in the spell zone rather then an i:p. As you can see it makes the deck play smarter and is easier to hand trap and the deck will need to play more extenders effectively making them play less hand traps. Semi- limiting wanted and diabellstarer and limiting snake-eyes sinful spoils in addition to this rather then limiting one or the other (that way people still get their moneys worth) would be good because we lose 2 consistency cards which will make senario I described above more frequent rather then the end boards we see now. Again this will make the deck still have interruption and still a strong deck. They will just have to play less hand traps and more extenders. (I’m a big fan of EM:P Meowmine)
@YeahSureLetsGoSeeYamcha
@YeahSureLetsGoSeeYamcha 3 ай бұрын
Unban chaos ruler, that brings a bunch of other decks closer the level of snake eye including tear.
@KixMusaid
@KixMusaid 2 ай бұрын
This is me favourite episode by far
@s4ds4d
@s4ds4d 3 ай бұрын
Damn Josh shitting on both my decks dying to Nib in the same sentence made me feel a way 😭😂 (Hero & Salamangreat)
@monotone8299
@monotone8299 3 ай бұрын
If they seriously take my Baron right after making it finally affordable for budget players through the Rarity Collection, I'll be seriously ticked.
@turtle-bot3049
@turtle-bot3049 3 ай бұрын
Elf back to 1 would be interesting to test out.
@BoltSpider
@BoltSpider 3 ай бұрын
Yugipedia has a useful set of pages with every banlist date if anyone wants to have a deeper dive on each list from OCG and TCG
@iewad8761
@iewad8761 3 ай бұрын
The despair on Farfas face everytime he gets donowalled lmao
@AkitouChaos
@AkitouChaos 3 ай бұрын
The biggest issue with YGO releases compared to other CCGs; games with draft and rotation need to release multiple competitive decks at the same time. Banlist mostly roll out in MTG when cards in Standard or some other format work together in unexpected ways. If we could rope Rarran back into YGO, can we get Farfa to learn Magic: The Gathering?
@EltonLeonidas
@EltonLeonidas 3 ай бұрын
Delinquent duo was the longest time on the banlist, and the second one was graceful. They both went to forbidden on the first actual banlist (with forbidden cards) and they came back for a bit. Graceful for a few format, but duo for only one, and its on the list ever since.
@jacobmonks3722
@jacobmonks3722 2 ай бұрын
I believe they meant for cards that have since been released.
@JamarWilliams94
@JamarWilliams94 3 ай бұрын
Lets go Farfa with the fresh cut 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@quia001
@quia001 3 ай бұрын
Just watching while waiting for april 1st banlist on ocg
@ducky36F
@ducky36F 3 ай бұрын
I really think now is a good time to hit overpowered generic extra deck monsters because the snake eye decks use them so well.
@kartenspieler0863
@kartenspieler0863 3 ай бұрын
Sealing hits always mean you have to ban something, right?
@knessy6446
@knessy6446 3 ай бұрын
I think they should hit dimensional barrier this list. If we assume they hit Snake Eye the next top decks are branded and VV. It's gonna like 20-21 format with branded and swordsoul. Just who sees d barrier first.
@bradleytaylor9712
@bradleytaylor9712 3 ай бұрын
Saw Fara yesterday and gave him a nib token, amazing guy actually
@admontblanc
@admontblanc 3 ай бұрын
Electrumite not being a card you could free because it does nothing has to be the most irrational take ever.
@sulfenir2477
@sulfenir2477 3 ай бұрын
It either does nothing or it enables a degenerate combo deck. In neither of these cases does it make the game more fun, so why should we get it back? From a competitive standpoint there is no reason.
@admontblanc
@admontblanc 3 ай бұрын
@@sulfenir2477 degenerate as opposed to what?
@Adrianovaz2007
@Adrianovaz2007 3 ай бұрын
@@sulfenir2477 if it does nothing keeping it banned you're just ruining the game for casual players but from a competitive standpoint that doesn't matter like you said but still; alienates a good chunck of the playerbase, although at this point I'd be surprised to see someone playing it non-competitively if its not with friends because there's absolutely no overlaps between those two camps nowadays.
@sulfenir2477
@sulfenir2477 3 ай бұрын
@@Adrianovaz2007 You're right. I was just explaining the rationale given in the video for keeping electrumite on the banlist. No matter if you agree with the take or not, it certainly isn't "irrational".
@zaczez92_ygo
@zaczez92_ygo 3 ай бұрын
23:22 I think the big difference is the number of times one person is expected to actually play the game. When you're playing master duel you're sitting there for 5-6 hrs straight everyday game after game after game, they expect people to get bored much faster making the solution of more frequent ban lists. In the tcg what is it? Maybe once a week at your locals? Then the however few large events during the format and maybe a single worlds. The number of times someone is expected to play the game is much smaller making the ability to spread the format out a bit longer.
@Adrianovaz2007
@Adrianovaz2007 3 ай бұрын
Consistency hits were useful when the game was slower, like the infamous Tuner killer list in Tengu plant times limiting Striker and Earth for example, although that felt like a sell packs list in the end since T.G. Agents even at full power stood little chance against the three big decks of early ZeXaL. Now it feels like a weak slap on the wrist and a warning to sell your cards before they nuke the decks into the ground.
@MiguelMartinon
@MiguelMartinon 2 ай бұрын
3:50 Farfa made a mistake about the first limitations. The first limitations were Dark Hole, Raigeki, and Trap Hole going to 1 during the Tokyo Dome format of 1999
@MiguelMartinon
@MiguelMartinon 2 ай бұрын
Feather Duster is limited longer than the pieces.
@lynnhomura895
@lynnhomura895 3 ай бұрын
I actually really like Kitkallos back to 1 for multiple reasons, and I don't think its unrealistic. 1. The ishizu millers are gone, the deck is much more tame now, giving them a way to mill reliably is fine, especially with all the names at 1. 2. Lightsworn support is coming, and lightsworn tear is definitely a good selling point. 3. I dont think this combats snake eye, i think this just gives more options in the format, which is good. I've played tear and i like it, ive played against tear and ive hated it at the same time. But genuinely i think kit can come back and itll be fine, the deck will be good if it happens but its not gonna be teir 0 again.
@NewtBannner
@NewtBannner 3 ай бұрын
Dragon Link my beloved, the deck adapted so many times like Josh says and they just keep hitting our deck
@tristianmeganblagoueakajay9174
@tristianmeganblagoueakajay9174 3 ай бұрын
But they also gave yall the bystial which initially has been carrying the deck since elpy left.
@NewtBannner
@NewtBannner 3 ай бұрын
@@tristianmeganblagoueakajay9174 we were fine after Elpy because we had Chaos Ruler and Adventurer cards but after Chaos Ruler got hit Bystials did carry us
@tristianmeganblagoueakajay9174
@tristianmeganblagoueakajay9174 3 ай бұрын
@@NewtBannner true. I left after elpy for other reasons so yeah true that make sense. I don't think after the space hit the deck will get touched but in ocg bystials are all at one I believe. So it is possible. D link is in that bracket pendulums were for a while there before they finally banned electrumite for a second time lmao
@joshdavis6830
@joshdavis6830 3 ай бұрын
I think they could really hit the deck while leaving it playable if they were willing to ban Baronne and limiting Ash. I'm not sure what to hit from the Fire King Engine, but they should hit it's consistency as well. Probably limit Kirrin? Snake-Eye doesn't have a lot of actual engine, so the consistency hits are big, and they also affect your follow-up and grind-game. Limit Ash isn't enough by itself
@ducky36F
@ducky36F 3 ай бұрын
Ban Barrone and Apo, and limit Kirin, Ash and Wanted is my wishlist.
@tristianmeganblagoueakajay9174
@tristianmeganblagoueakajay9174 3 ай бұрын
If hitting the deck without killing it regulates its price than I reccommend you do that so people can not complain about the deck because everyone has the option to play it. That is why on DB no one complains about the format and when they do they are speaking from a prespective if playing in person.
@captainsunshine64
@captainsunshine64 3 ай бұрын
I was hoping you guys would talk about errata-ing cards so they can be unbanned. I feel like a large chunk of the list could be fixed with simple erratas
@jouzea6425
@jouzea6425 3 ай бұрын
love them fades farfa looking fine
@kroffen7
@kroffen7 3 ай бұрын
One thing that is so weird about how recent centralized metas are rn is that we know Konami TCG KNOW what’s gonna be good. And they have a chance to make a good TCG archetype to maybe shift it from 1 deck meta to a 2 deck meta. But… TCG archetypes are tier 2 at best now days.
@HeadGunter343GS
@HeadGunter343GS 3 ай бұрын
Farfa moghed so hard he maxxed his beard
@AllBeganwithBBS
@AllBeganwithBBS 3 ай бұрын
Banning Jet Synchron to solve Snake-Eyes is doing the Konami thing of not banning the problem card, which I thought everyone hated. If Snake-Eyes has to die to preserve the somewhat innocent cards, then so be it. They are the problematic cards, after all. Also it's high time for Linkuriboh to go. Getting to send on-field card to the GY for free really is getting too strong for the game imo.
@truebeliever401
@truebeliever401 3 ай бұрын
As a snake eyes player who has been abusing the deck since poplar came out, I will say flamberge has to be banned somewhere down the line. I like what the card does on the field but its effect when sent to the GY is too OP.
@I_Am_Bowi
@I_Am_Bowi 3 ай бұрын
I want sekkas light back at 3. I loved that blind 2nd BA deck with destrudo -> yazi -> mare mare and soulkius / d hero mali to hard make beatrice
@Jowahotz90
@Jowahotz90 3 ай бұрын
Funny when Farfa kinda starts a certain topic and Josh is just like yeah that's for another podcast, like he ain't talking about that right now lol
@marvynjeanbaptiste3206
@marvynjeanbaptiste3206 3 ай бұрын
Why does Konami feel the need to make these decks ridiculously overkitted? I know others won’t share the same sentiment but one of the reasons I like playing hybrid decks is to play around the restrictions of the deck like Virtual World Swordsoul or Unchained Live Twins
@nico-wj1mh
@nico-wj1mh 3 ай бұрын
money
@BboySquidfoot
@BboySquidfoot 3 ай бұрын
I miss covid format; bird up, VWs, dlink, nadir servant dropped, and damn near everything was relevant. Still hate dragoon tho, fuck that card.
@robindeknijff5769
@robindeknijff5769 3 ай бұрын
Was so glad at the time that I managed to sell my copy of Drident from mega tin the day before Banlist dropped and killed the deck
@RImeri31
@RImeri31 3 ай бұрын
I no longer care about a healthy game, bring back Halqifibrax and let the fun begin
@d.r.6177
@d.r.6177 3 ай бұрын
Limiting combo pieces like SE Ash, which are necessary, but provide overly strong 2-Card combos is probably the best solution. Konami making these cards starters and extenders is just annoying tough. If SE Ash search effect was limited to its special summon, we would not have this discussion. They should have given the search and special summon effect to two different monsters imo.
@MegaMetal96
@MegaMetal96 3 ай бұрын
Farfa looking like Steven Seagal 👌
@ciarangallaghercg
@ciarangallaghercg 3 ай бұрын
Farfa saying he'd be ok with Snake Eye for another 3-4 months is absolutely insane
@Sparda51
@Sparda51 3 ай бұрын
One card combo decks are ok, if there is only 3 of that card in a deck, snake eye has like 15-20 one card combos that are ALSO extenders that get you to the same result lol….like why?
@safeandsound712
@safeandsound712 3 ай бұрын
I think they're going to reban jet synchron. Maybe banning appo would be cool imo I doubt they do it but it would help. I'd like to see a few of the sinful spoils cards get limited just to slap them on the wrist and force innovation. I don't like it but banning savage would be a big difference. I don't think they'd do that but getting rid of him and like IP would really hurt the deck.
@Frame206a
@Frame206a 3 ай бұрын
I find it funny that they want jet synchron, baronne banned but find it iffy to ban Original Sinful. because OSS enables this
@austinmartinez517
@austinmartinez517 3 ай бұрын
If you start a new master duel account in one week free to play you can have a full meta snake eyes deck and play and practice for real life format minus bonfire and SP which I can’t afford anyway such a cool way to practice for free at home
@smileywater
@smileywater 2 ай бұрын
It doesn’t matter how new the card is. If it’s broken, hit it.
@greenhillmario
@greenhillmario 3 ай бұрын
All the dislike I hear for wanted from Josh only comes from original sinful being the most powerful normal spell to set with diabellstar, just saying Imagine if you had to wait a turn for the card you set, like if it was a quickplay or a trap. Wouldn’t that be interesting and fair
@Oddf0x
@Oddf0x 3 ай бұрын
FACTS
@nharviala
@nharviala 3 ай бұрын
Diabellestar is living proof why One for One should not be at 7 on the banlist.
@rezzytheskyguy
@rezzytheskyguy 14 күн бұрын
I think farfa has to reexamine his role here & understand that josh is the expert and he is the casual in this specific dynamic & he needs to respect that more
@Mewtwoisabeast
@Mewtwoisabeast 3 ай бұрын
rip my boy meow mu
@UTgohan
@UTgohan 3 ай бұрын
1:12 wrong it’s not about that anymore it’s about selling product =)
@I_Am_Bowi
@I_Am_Bowi 3 ай бұрын
I hope Nadhir stubs his toe if Kirin comes back, that is my most hated card of all time
@chlobot69420
@chlobot69420 3 ай бұрын
1:08:11 Farfa says that unlimiting skill drain while limiting Gozen, Rivalry, TCBOO does make sense, but it really does, because the latter three are good going second, whereas skill drain does nothing going second (unless it’s paired with one of the others). Gozen, or Rivalry, or TCBOO depending on the matchup, is effectively Torrential Tribute, and paired with a Solemn Strike it basically immediately wins you the game.
@RospettoVerte
@RospettoVerte 3 ай бұрын
I think before we get ronin back they need to reprint sub like 12 times and then ban him, itd help edison
@brianlauria
@brianlauria 3 ай бұрын
RE. Snake-Eye being so hard to hit....... the real elephant in the room no one wants to discuss is that PRINCESS is banworthy but because it's waifu and generic no one wants to discuss it. It ABUSES Flamberge and is a generic interruption and bridge. Enables phoenix OTK much easier. Will also ABUSE any future Fire card that triggers in GY
@lukadetr
@lukadetr 3 ай бұрын
#Globalrelease
@hightidekraken
@hightidekraken 3 ай бұрын
If konami bans raging phoenix (they are dumb enough to) im taking a huge hiatus
@minabasejderha5972
@minabasejderha5972 3 ай бұрын
I do not think you are really thinking about Linkuriboh correctly. It has been a problem card before I'm facilitating many one card Halq's that got banned. It's become a problem again, and will do so the *next* time there is a 1 axis deck. I love the card. I think it is cute. And I like Kuribohs of all kinds. I would be fine with hitting other stuff ultimately, but don't dismiss it as "not a problem card." It is.
@BboySquidfoot
@BboySquidfoot 3 ай бұрын
I like ya cut G
@FinalArmmegedon
@FinalArmmegedon 3 ай бұрын
Imagine Konami responding to this video by releasing the OCG list? That wouldn't happen right...............right......?
@croczOTK
@croczOTK 3 ай бұрын
If you’re not gonna hit fire decks hard they should Unban ariseheart and bring shufflers back to 3.
@geek593
@geek593 3 ай бұрын
Arise to 1 would be good for the format. Ishizus should stay dead forever.
@fernandomaxis6550
@fernandomaxis6550 3 ай бұрын
Playing against kashtira showed me that it's imbalanced to have ariseheart and fenrir together. One needs to be banned for it to be fair and fun. I'd rather deal with ariseheart using 3 monsters to xyz into than just the one kashtira. Shufflers are really nice and not overpowered since millers are banned. Might make snake eyes easier to up against.
@ducky36F
@ducky36F 3 ай бұрын
Unless they want the game to be fun
@lofiescape
@lofiescape 3 ай бұрын
jurak aeolo best lv 1 fire tuner
@joshelderkin9592
@joshelderkin9592 3 ай бұрын
They put out a card in magic THIS YEAR that was banned in DRAFT because they couldnt get it to work right so if you opened that as your rare you were just fucked 😂
@jakeehwilliams8820
@jakeehwilliams8820 3 ай бұрын
Calamity
@markchang2964
@markchang2964 3 ай бұрын
Snake eyes is too new too ban, and not strong enough to emergency ban. I would suggest unbanning cards from older archetypes. Cards like: Broadbull, Block Dragon, and Norden.
@heroonlinegaming2441
@heroonlinegaming2441 3 ай бұрын
Woah time out you can make a hero neos combo with 5 summons and dpe darklaw combo can happen in end phase specially to play around nib. But yes keep believing that nib just auto wins agains a hero deck. Lol
@golomoed5347
@golomoed5347 3 ай бұрын
I would move to see an episode discussing the Dream format/ perfect state of balance/perfect banlist. Like would it be optimal to have no broken cards and 100 playable decks but none of them would be so good that you dont have to prepare specifically for it ? Or is 3/4 decks really optimal ?
@SM......
@SM...... 3 ай бұрын
Please Konami hit Bonfire and Snake Eyes. It would be so funny
@Matter_Of_Fact
@Matter_Of_Fact 3 ай бұрын
I truly think Konami doesn't care half the time. UNBLOCK THE BLOCK LETS GO LOL
@danieltilleru3528
@danieltilleru3528 3 ай бұрын
What's on farfas face
@redbloodnight5840
@redbloodnight5840 3 ай бұрын
on ocg banlist day
@Calebbeck
@Calebbeck 2 ай бұрын
Give me one master peace please
@zengamer321
@zengamer321 3 ай бұрын
limiting flamberge makes literally no sense. it wouldn't make snake eye not tier 0. it would just make fire king snake eye the only tier 0 variant of the deck. then everybody is on fire king but the deck is still tier 0. you can't just hit only pure or only fire king because everybody is gonna go like "anyways" and switch to the other variant.
@otterfire4712
@otterfire4712 3 ай бұрын
Could see them hitting Kirin or Garunix as well
@OMGWYATT
@OMGWYATT 3 ай бұрын
It makes the deck way less resistant to Nibiru, makes drawing it even more terrible, and would reduce the follow up potential quite a bit if you have any way to answer Flamberge. The deck can still function/be good. There just needs to be less of a gap between it and the next thing(s).
@zengamer321
@zengamer321 3 ай бұрын
@@OMGWYATT what are you talking about? cuz im talking about fire king snake eye. you know, the OTHER tier 0 fire deck that makes up almost 50% of this the tier 0 snake eye decks. are you saying that by limiting flamberge the deck that plays 1 copy of flamberge will somehow be impacted by a banlist which will have literally no effect on the number of flamberge copies played?
@Droufte
@Droufte 3 ай бұрын
How is talent a problem in handtrap format I don't understand? Fire King can shotgun you with 4 handtrap and still total combo on his turn 2 I'm sorry nobody should touch TTT.
@tristianmeganblagoueakajay9174
@tristianmeganblagoueakajay9174 3 ай бұрын
That is part of the problem
@NaughtyNina1240
@NaughtyNina1240 3 ай бұрын
Banning jet synchron guts other decks that use it, it is not addressing the real issues
@travismcdonald2713
@travismcdonald2713 3 ай бұрын
All I got from this episode was "waaa waaa floodgates stop my combos me want no interaction" no shit Sherlock that's what a floodgate does. I do agree the floating type floodgate effects need to go like d shifter but come on it's not like everyone is running cosmic cyclone or feather duster.
@geek593
@geek593 3 ай бұрын
Floodgates remove many types of interaction entirely. They shouldn't exist in a game as fast as modern Yugioh unless they're designed to be dealt with in ways that you can reasonably prepare for based on how the rest of the game plays such as Ariseheart being a targeting negation magnet. This is an issue caused by the game being so fast that losing one turn of interaction means you lose outright but between completely revamping the game and taking floodgates behind the shed I'd expect the latter to be the more realistic way for them to remove pain points.
@invertbrid
@invertbrid 3 ай бұрын
​@@geek593both not realistic anyway. There are too many good floodgates that banning em all basicslly impossible. Heck new master rule is more possible than removing all floodgates. But yea they prob wont do either lol. Just let it run as it is.
@Shadowbot074
@Shadowbot074 3 ай бұрын
YES UNLOCK THE BLOCK!
@areono460
@areono460 3 ай бұрын
Generic extra deck monsters need to go every end board being the exact same is not fun
@shadowdraqon2479
@shadowdraqon2479 3 ай бұрын
15:25 and 17:06 Farfa started yugioh mad late so anything before dragon rulers he has no knowledge of
@shadowdraqon2479
@shadowdraqon2479 3 ай бұрын
Joshua schmit certified OG
@yurisbest2892
@yurisbest2892 3 ай бұрын
Farfa confusing bls for chaos emperor dragon smh
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