Were Manchester United duo Michael Carrick & Paul Scholes underrated? | BBC Sounds

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Match of the Day Top 10's Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer and Micah Richards discuss the best Premier League midfield duos, and consider whether Manchester United's Michael Carrick and Paul Scholes were underrated.
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@philheaton638
@philheaton638 6 ай бұрын
Think Carrick was ahead of his time tbh. I was a massive fan of his, made up when we signed him. Unfortunately fans wanted another Keane and never got that. But Carrick could genuinely play now and would be top 5 holding midfielders in the world. He could do everything the likes of Rodri etc are doing.
@philheaton638
@philheaton638 6 ай бұрын
Personally think he was the Key to making a Scholes/ Gerrard midfield working for England
@barrymckenna8547
@barrymckenna8547 6 ай бұрын
The likes of players like Keane is dead, carrick did a great job of replacing him
@chanchaniceman
@chanchaniceman 6 ай бұрын
Carrick more or less walk so that players like Declan rice can run,the man in the English game was way ahead of his time in terms of his style of play. During United’s title winning runs in the late 2000s,Carrick’s simplistic approach more or less laid the foundations so that much skilled players like Rooney,Ronaldo,Tevez,Berbatov and Nani can thrive. Not many say this but I will say Carrick more or less made Scholes to reinvent his game in his early 30s.
@martinpedersen2650
@martinpedersen2650 6 ай бұрын
Theres a reason he was a one of the highest transfers at the time and played so many games for a top 5 club in the world. His skills where sublime.
@rauoool80s23
@rauoool80s23 2 ай бұрын
He passes the ball like Riquelme.
@JPhilocypher
@JPhilocypher 6 ай бұрын
This was meant to be about Scholes and Carrick and Micah turned it into the story of his failure to make it as both a striker and a midfielder 😂
@terryloker358
@terryloker358 6 ай бұрын
Well he did 'burst onto the scene' 🤣🤣
@tatendamhuriro2735
@tatendamhuriro2735 6 ай бұрын
But he was unbelievable lol
@owenhaskins7193
@owenhaskins7193 5 ай бұрын
Scholes was the greatest midfielder of his generation, not my words but the world of Xavi and Iniesta. If he was Italian, Spanish etc he would have received the plaudits he deserved as they would have rightly built the national team around him. As for Carrick, criminally underrated, his ability to read the game and his transition was 1st class.
@padcontrol1
@padcontrol1 5 ай бұрын
If Scholes was more media friendly, vocal publicly, and as you said Italian and Spanish he would be regarded as the best.
@owenhaskins7193
@owenhaskins7193 5 ай бұрын
@@padcontrol1 pretty much, but Scholes was no media darling (like Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard or Giggs) - but in my opinion, a much better all round midfielder.
@Woze899
@Woze899 4 ай бұрын
Most idiotic comment ive stumbled across.i like scholes but to say greatest mid of his generation is beyond ridiculous.zidane iniesta were on a different level to him.
@Carvetii
@Carvetii 4 ай бұрын
speaking of idiotic comments yours is right up there scholes was the equal of both those players they said so in there own words @@Woze899
@Woze899
@Woze899 4 ай бұрын
@@Carvetii see a doctor mate,your delusion is beyond me
@Daniel_Goh
@Daniel_Goh 6 ай бұрын
Great CM combo. Carrick is an example of a good holding CDM. Brilliant ball circulator, always make himself available to receive ball from defence to play out, never panicked when in possession and makes good passing decision. When defending he seldom need to tackle, just reads game well and just position well so opponents couldn’t find space or angle to bring ball in front of defenders. Just seldom see him shoot from outside box, though he’s a great shooter in West Ham days. Scholes is an example of a great CAM and False 9. Brilliant goal assist. His balls always find a teammate in good position with the right precision and speed (be it long or even squeezed from a cramped position). Always arriving in the right moment to score goals in front or behind opponents defence (like a striker). Missing from his game is carrying ball with speed and dribbling past players (like Zidane). The great Barca Tiki Taka team has similar players in Busquets (for Carrick) and Xavi + Iniesta (for Scholes)
@gambit0913
@gambit0913 6 ай бұрын
When Carrick joined, Utd went on to wining the premiership after a 4 year drought to win 5 premier league titles and 1 champions league from a total of 3 final appearance with him being the only central midfielder to start all 3...its a pity people use those 2 CL final losses/appearances against him as he had dominated an era in English football when Utd was most successful ever
@vs6300
@vs6300 5 ай бұрын
Carrick was good alright, I'd rate him at Xabi level, Scholes was at beast level though, am sure the 2 UCL's would have turned out different if he was started.
@elliotchinneryhinks8554
@elliotchinneryhinks8554 6 ай бұрын
Carrick was so underrated it's shown here, they barely spoke about him and Micah said he was like Barry....it's criminal, a half assed review before moving on to talk about scholes, Pep said Carrick's the only player who could have replaced Busquests at Barca..
@MikeGSK
@MikeGSK 3 ай бұрын
Carrick was pure class. Read the game so well, exceptional range of passing, never out of position, such an intelligent player.
@michaelt9511
@michaelt9511 6 ай бұрын
The answer is a big fat YES. They were underrated. They should have been the first choice England midfield duo at the time they were dominating the Premier League and the Champions League. They were England's equivalent to Xavi and Busquets. Those two together would have won a trophy for England but we all know that the FA have their favourites. Carrick was incredibly underrated and Lampard was incredibly overrated. Lampard was basically a striker with limited ability on the ball playing as an attacking midfielder with proper tough midfielders such as Ballack, Essien and Makelele covering him and carrying him. It's very understandable why both Scholes and Carrick retired early from international football, the disrespect from the FA was too much considering how good and dominant both of them were.
@paulstockton7121
@paulstockton7121 6 ай бұрын
I never bought the sound bite of Scholes being a poor tackler. I always thought he was 'letting the opposition know he was there' and just let the story run of him being poor tackler as it influenced the ref. It is far easier to forgive someone for coming in late and catching the leg than it is to forgive them for deliberately doing it.
@hameedmatrook9394
@hameedmatrook9394 6 ай бұрын
With Carrick, England wins a major trophy
@Lakey79373
@Lakey79373 6 ай бұрын
No they didn't
@stretfordender11
@stretfordender11 6 ай бұрын
We should have played 433
@Bulletno
@Bulletno 6 ай бұрын
Just imagine GK - James or Robinson DF - G. Neville Ferdinand Terry A. Cole MF - Beckham Carrick Gerrard Scholes AMF - Lampard or J. Cole ST - Rooney or Owen
@stretfordender11
@stretfordender11 6 ай бұрын
@@Bulletno that wouldn’t happen. They would have played 433 with Beckham and Rooney outside. Owen up top. If they had a manager willing to play 433 as that formation wins all the top trophies usually.
@garybarnes556
@garybarnes556 6 ай бұрын
Good player but under pressure Carrick wasn't comfortable. Watch the champions league finals vs Barca.. Chased shadow's n looked lost
@darthmarticusLFC
@darthmarticusLFC 6 ай бұрын
Even as a Liverpool fan, Carrick was on my fave players in the league
@beecee2205
@beecee2205 6 ай бұрын
Micah used to be a goalkeeper, And Barry was just like Carrick was he ? Just like Micah reminded everyone of Baresi
@chriswinspear7965
@chriswinspear7965 6 ай бұрын
He was unbelievable ......he just 'Burst onto the Scene!'
@linmk541
@linmk541 6 ай бұрын
Let's put it this way about Carrick. Since he retired, none of Utd midfielders were as great as him for Utd. The closest one is Pogba (not saying they have similar playing style, jusg saying purelg based on how each impacts Utd play) and that says it all. Pogba never really got control of Utd midfield whereas Carrick was the main engine post Keano era. In fact, Rooney playing in midfield at times was better than Pogba. Just love watching Carrick play. And what a find job he is doing at Boro right now too.
@seekerdrone
@seekerdrone 6 ай бұрын
Great midfield partnerships: Arsenal: Vieira, Petit/Gilberto Chelsea: lampard/deco, makelele/ essien/ matic Liverpool: gerrard, mascherano, alonso City: yaya toure/ david silva, fernandinho/ rodri Utd: scholes, keane/carrick
@daddymonyet
@daddymonyet 6 ай бұрын
Please don’t include non EPL winners. Thanks.
@mikeabba1990
@mikeabba1990 5 ай бұрын
When tricksters/dribblers, the likes of Nani and Ronaldo, say he's the king of one/two touch drills in training, it speaks volumes. When they both say he's the best midfielder they've ever played with, or against, you can't ignore that either. Tevez, who had every right to be bitter towards United and his former teammates, a man who only played alongside him for 2 seasons AND was part of the national set-up alongside Messi says he's the best passer he's ever seen, that speaks volumes. Xavi couldn't ping a ball 40m to a teammate's feet. Pirlo was a maestro but his success and legacy was all down to Serie A, and it's infamously slow paced style of play. Remember Veron, another maestro at Lazio, he didn't do too well in the premiership did he!!? Watch Schole's goal against Villa, the volley, you know the one. Watch how Ronaldo puts his head in his hands in disbelief when it goes in, Ronaldo in his prime, and he was dumbfounded. If I type out all the achievements and stories about this player my thumbs will fall off, so just be honest with yourself, are all these players talking rubbish just to stroke Scholes' ego, doubt it
@tanbir11
@tanbir11 6 ай бұрын
give Big Meeks his own show .... the charisma is something else
@indeed596
@indeed596 6 ай бұрын
Scholes wasn't underrated. Anyone who understands football intimately knows he was one of the all time greats. He would have got in any club team, including Barcelona, and any international team, including Brazil. He was awesome. Just look what Zidane, Henry, Xavi, Pep say about him... Carrick was a very good player but quite a way off the genius of Scholes.
@patrickmullins7981
@patrickmullins7981 6 ай бұрын
These two could have played in that great Barca team Pep had and it wouldnt miss a beat. Cant say that about many other English players, they were unique for English players at the time.
@colinm3869
@colinm3869 6 ай бұрын
Interesting the Scholes/Carrick combo getting a mention for once. All i ever read about Gerrard these days is dragging and carrying crap teams. Him and Lampard didn’t get to the euros in 2008 with a very solid team around them. Scholes and Carrick won the premier league and the champions league that season. Would’ve been interesting to see if Scholes didn’t retire early if they would’ve given that pairing a chance with England in that era
@stretfordender11
@stretfordender11 6 ай бұрын
Gerard’s become a myth these days. He couldn’t dictate a game at all. This is why he failed when he tried to do it when he got older. The best midfielders like scholes, xavi, pirlo etc. obviously zidane and iniesta stand out above all because they could dictate and go past people like they didn’t exist.
@martinh1309
@martinh1309 6 ай бұрын
Scholes should have returned for the 2010 World Cup
@TheLusianPopa
@TheLusianPopa 5 ай бұрын
Well they did remarkably well 2006-2011 won 4 PL titles in 5 years also in those years they reached 3 cl finals, semis in 07 and quarters 2010
@FootkerSnookball
@FootkerSnookball 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, ManUtd were by far the best team in Britain 5 straight seasons 2006/07 to 2010/11 and always in the Top2 in the World in the same time period judging on CL records etc... THE best in the world 2008 and still hold the CL unbeaten game record which has stood for 15 years and counting. (2009/10 PL season was fixed because the PL desperately wanted to avoid same champion 4 times in a row, only reason 1 in that 5 year period was given away they favoured Chelsea all season including both head-to-heads with ManUtd which are easy ManUtd wins with VAR and even then ManUtd were still champions if the fixture scheduling didn't also favour Chelsea so that they played Liverpool for Chelsea's last away game where Liverpool know they have to lose for ManUtd to not overtake Liverpool on overall league title's they had nothing else to play for hence Gerrard's deliberate backpass to Drogba on 32mins as he panicked that Chelsea had created nothing so far, Liverpool home fans applauded it=fixed season, Liverpool tried at all costs vs ManUtd and the Anfield fixture between them Oct2009 was another VAR would've made ManUtd win but either way Liverpool fought for it vs ManUtd yet threw the Chelsea game.....ManUtd were also robbed in CL would've got to the final if Rafael wasn't sent off vs Bayern if you look at the incident Ribery pushes Rafael way more AND demands sending off for Rafael which are both bookable offences if Rafael gets booked but ref only punishes Rafael & ManUtd, Bayern were able to score a crucial goal with that numerical advantage which also helped them not concede anymore to nick the tie on away goals controversially, they then only had Lyon in SF and were crap in the final vs Inter but ManUtd have good record vs Inter and had knocked Mourinho's Inter out in R16 previous season, 2006/07 the other non-CL final in that 5 year period ManUtd were better than CL runners-up Liverpool but just happened to get ACmilan a round earlier but did beat them at OldTrafford and also had some other great results like 7-1 vs Roma etc...).
@TheLusianPopa
@TheLusianPopa 2 ай бұрын
@@FootkerSnookball sorry but chelsea flat out deserved the PL in 2010...they were scoring for fun...utd although still great struggled a bit to change the style after the departures of ronaldo and tevez n the summer 2009.... youre imaginining things too much inter 2010 was a totally different beast from the one the year before....they had brought in milito and etoo-2 clinical stiekers instead of the flop zlatan...they had lucio and motta and sneiijer also come in.....and utd werent as good as 09 due to departures of ronaldo and tevez...inter would have won the final in 2010, as mourinho hd a great finals record, and a great record over fergie in general.... in fcat utrd were kinda lukcy they won the PL in 09, as h2h liverpool was better
@FootkerSnookball
@FootkerSnookball 2 ай бұрын
@TheLusianPopa Scoring for fun there was only 3GD separating ManUtd & Chelsea with 3 games left and ManUtd won their last 3 and added a further 7GD so how without corruption have Chelsea gained 10GD on ManUtd in the last 3 games, they got given 2 emphatic wins in the last 3 games with several controversial goals to add to the seasons list just to disguise them as worthy winners with fake GD because they corruptly climbed above ManUtd in points and that was the only way to make it look like they were worthy in some way but they weren't the best team. Why did Chelsea (despite needing to get 2 dodgy wins vs ManUtd) have no more wins than ManUtd then? (27 each). Why did Chelsea have less wins by 2 or more goals than ManUtd until the penultimate weekend where Liverpool threw their game for the reasons mentioned so therefore finished on the same amount of wins by 1 goal and same amount of wins by 2 or more but ManUtd had more away wins, ManUtd finished with more away wins by 2 or more than Chelsea did, likewise 3 or more, likewise 4 or more and both Chelsea & ManUtd had one 0-5 win each but ManUtd's was against 16th Wigan and all the goals were quality where as Chelsea's was vs rock bottom Portsmouth and DavidJames made an amateur howler to give Drogba a tap-in. And if you were to count up controversial goals Chelsea had way more and controversial incidents Chelsea had way more but I still wouldn't have been that aggrieved if BOTH head-to-heads weren't fixed. Rooney at Stamford bridge (1-0 to Chelsea) was clean through ONside but flagged offside at 0-0, also at 0-0 Terry fouled Valencia in the box no pen given and Chelsea's goal should've been disallowed for no fewer than 3 reasons.
@TheLusianPopa
@TheLusianPopa 2 ай бұрын
@@FootkerSnookball dude get a life...dead srs
@FootkerSnookball
@FootkerSnookball 2 ай бұрын
@TheLusianPopa So people are sad if they prove you wrong? I've got more going for me than you brain wise, looks wise and so on I'm sure so I'm fine actually, sort your issues out (and by the way I wasn't even trying to prove you wrong initially. I pointed out something thinking you might agree and then you rudely dismissed it & said I don't remember things well and then gave your opinions trying to prove me wrong and then I just listed a bunch of facts about that season which although long looking took me a short amount of time because I have a fast brain and countered it, so you got upset insulting me??) But I bet if Chelsea fans wanted to complain about being robbed like they always do with Barca 2008/09 for example you'll allow that that's not sad right? I'm sad for stating actual stats that are real but your hypothetical opinions counts more according to you? And whether Inter would've won the CL final 2010 or not (which is up for debate whether you like it or not) I still said ManUtd were in the Top2 in the World 2006/07 to 2010/11 so getting to the final would still justify that and ManUtd were only robbed of not getting there. You also mentioned Mourinho had great ChampionsLeague record vs Ferguson?? He literally never knocked Ferguson out without poor decisions don't you remember Scholes Porto offside played ONside by 4 Porto players?? You make up fiction and think that should be taken seriously but you pretend the fact ManUtd beat Mourinho's Inter comfortably the year before 2010 is irrelavent. Maybe try a different sport or hobbies because you don't have the knowledge and can't handle when someone else is right. You only say the same crap that is regurgitated by several others based on false narratives, bias or anti-ManUtd miffs etc...but when challenged by someone who can think for themselves be more original but also stick to the truth, you feel uncomfortable.
@davidjjharding
@davidjjharding 5 ай бұрын
Every partnership scholes ever did was great. Because he could make anyone look good. Him and the pre premiership player Brian Robson were the best midfielders ive ever seen.
@roolaing
@roolaing 6 ай бұрын
Leeds’ 91-92 title winning midfield was McAllister, Strachan, Speed, Batty. Not bad that.
@matthewbull6102
@matthewbull6102 6 ай бұрын
Micah lovely and self-effacing but he does tend to bring the conversation back to himself a little too much.
@peterjones2834
@peterjones2834 6 ай бұрын
Laughing boy all ways talks about himself. He thinks the greatest full back ever played.
@copperpot5462
@copperpot5462 6 ай бұрын
Collectively their distaste for Scholes was painfully obvious. Why though? Because Scholes was a far better footballer than either one of them.
@Johndoe-gf7eu
@Johndoe-gf7eu 6 ай бұрын
How is scholes under rated he is known as one of the best midfielders of all time lol
@conversekid204
@conversekid204 6 ай бұрын
Micah richards once compared himself to 13 premier league, two time champions league winning gary neville!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ethancook1338
@ethancook1338 6 ай бұрын
Dont everr compare garth barry 2 carrick, sam level is he joking, Michas ball knowledge is a joke
@manny-420
@manny-420 6 ай бұрын
Notice how they just ignored him when he said it too 😂
@andyhulme2274
@andyhulme2274 6 ай бұрын
Carrick could pass a ball on a bobbly pitch yet it would travel like it was on a billiard table.
@carthy29
@carthy29 6 ай бұрын
Scholes has 11 premeriship league medals, 2 champions league winner medals, god knows the rest - league, FA, world super and community cups winning medals
@Theactivepsychos
@Theactivepsychos 4 ай бұрын
Didn’t scholes have the best England scoring record when he was a striker? I remember winning quite a few bets with him.
@burgerlover237
@burgerlover237 6 ай бұрын
Gary talking about scholesy tone of voice. seems to have forgotten how dull he sounded when he started
@utternonsenseproductions2415
@utternonsenseproductions2415 6 ай бұрын
Half this video was about Richards
@sahandsamavti3682
@sahandsamavti3682 6 ай бұрын
Scholes was underrated when he was playing but for some reason became overrated when he retired. Suddenly he was on the same level as Zidane for some people. Strange world.
@user-zd8no7jg5n
@user-zd8no7jg5n 6 ай бұрын
You must be a kid. Scholes was absolutely rated when he played . He’s out amongst the greats like Zidane and xavi. By people Like Zidane and Xavi You always know someone didn’t watch him play when they say he was underrated
@Woze899
@Woze899 4 ай бұрын
Those pple who think scholes was on the level of Zidane are beyond delusional
@mloose7870
@mloose7870 6 ай бұрын
People forget Scholes was easily scoring 10*+ & 20+ one time in the number 10 in his early days. Well they didn’t have 10s but advanced midfield we’ll say which is even more impressive btw
@eclipse7436
@eclipse7436 6 ай бұрын
Big meeks opens him self every time for a ribbing
@boblilley7429
@boblilley7429 3 ай бұрын
Richards used to be a defender once.. was average in that position as well😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@daddymonyet
@daddymonyet 6 ай бұрын
Best midfield partnership - Lucas Leiva & Jay Spearing.
@BusyBrittain
@BusyBrittain 6 ай бұрын
Whqt about gareth barry he always played well for england compared to carrick
@Connorbland72
@Connorbland72 6 ай бұрын
Like Barry? Carrick was miles ahead. Barry was a great player though.
@nigelhaines7900
@nigelhaines7900 6 ай бұрын
Gary has a habbit of playing with hes nose( very funny)
@itsagoal182
@itsagoal182 5 ай бұрын
Micah Richards: I used to be a midfielder. Gary Lineker: I used to be black.
@Boy_O_Boy
@Boy_O_Boy 5 ай бұрын
England NT had two chances to build their team around two proper deep lying playmaker but instead rejected them.What a waste!
@lloydmarshall8563
@lloydmarshall8563 6 ай бұрын
We didn’t
@mystraker3400
@mystraker3400 6 ай бұрын
Aaaaaaaaand Micah Richards once again begins by talking about himself ffs
@deepdivin
@deepdivin 6 ай бұрын
Reason you clicked on the video starts at 2:11
@vladimirk9584
@vladimirk9584 12 күн бұрын
Looks at title of the video, half the video they’re talking about f-all
@MG-vt6ju
@MG-vt6ju 6 ай бұрын
All united players from the past suffer from the English media and every other teams fans jealousy and woman !like feelings about them. Schools was the best .midfielder England has ever had and get two clowns are put I the same class as scholes
@philippevie3258
@philippevie3258 6 ай бұрын
No they wasn't underrated an anyone who knows footy knows how good the were individually an as a collective them man u teams around 09 was brilliant an top 30 British of all time so not underrated the problem is British footy an footballers r massively overrated
@mister3566
@mister3566 6 ай бұрын
Micah , is it April fools day?
@j2248
@j2248 6 ай бұрын
The first 2:20 is Micha Richards talking shite.
@samnorland6105
@samnorland6105 6 ай бұрын
nothing offered here - poor show
@KingCalla
@KingCalla 6 ай бұрын
Micah Richards loves talking about himself 😴
@martinh1309
@martinh1309 6 ай бұрын
Richards comparing Barry with Carrick🤢
@copperpot5462
@copperpot5462 6 ай бұрын
Micah's first contribution is to make himself the subject. Typical of his sort.
@brianmccormick63
@brianmccormick63 6 ай бұрын
No. Both were completely overrated. Le Tiss on the other hand....
@yashtiwari117
@yashtiwari117 6 ай бұрын
If anything, they were overrated because of the English bias - there were far FAR better foreign players in their positions at the time who couldn’t compete with the might of the English press.
@wazbrown133
@wazbrown133 6 ай бұрын
English bias. Keep your pointless thoughts to yourself.
@chanchaniceman
@chanchaniceman 6 ай бұрын
Overrated because of English bias? Even to this day this duo hardly get a mention amongst the best United or even the Premier League midfield combos let alone Europe. Scholes get the majority of the plaudits whereas Carrick at his prime rarely gets one. Sure at the time in this league, individually the combos of Essien/Lampard/Ballack along with Maschernao,Gerrard and Alonso were better as individuals but overrated while they won the league 3 times in a row.
@martinh1309
@martinh1309 6 ай бұрын
That is why Guardiola wanted Scholes in prime Barca, a spanish team?
@vs6300
@vs6300 5 ай бұрын
Great foreign midfielders at the time - Vierra, Xabi, Makelele, John Obi Mikel, Essien, Yaya Toure (later on). Ok, looking at these, I cant see any better than Scholes.
@justinmcquaide4862
@justinmcquaide4862 5 ай бұрын
Micah is just to much always trying to be funny quite annoying really
@niceman727
@niceman727 6 ай бұрын
Playing with Paul Scholes transformer Michael Carrick's game to another level. Carrick would not have been good without Scholes on that team
@jrn2121
@jrn2121 6 ай бұрын
Christ, Micah’s schtick is so tiresome. The fake laughing is unbearable.
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