So @Nyce-Gaming since we will have a tab target/action type combat does this mean we will be able to use controllers? 🙏🏾 being throne and Liberty and GW2 can! I am hoping so lol I have a life time sub and I cant wait to jump in

@@DanteSyx we missed the window for lifetime sub unfortunately. But they are working on true controller support . I doubt it’s present during alpha, but would expect it by official launch 😁

@@Nyce-Gaming will you be creating a guild or such? Oh thank you for the response! Love your content brother keep rocking 🙏🏾🙌🏾

@@DanteSyx thanks! And yes I think I shall will probably set it up in the VoV discord

i would say eso is closer to ashes combat than other mmos today with the one expection being GW2 which i feel is their direct inspiration for combat seen as it has been stated that there will be active block and dodge buttons even tho only certain classes like tanks for block and fighter and rogue for dodge will actually get the most benefit out of that with its basically sounding like eso with slightly less action features meaning no guard bash or yellow focus attacks and a lot less focus on active block and dodge for the those who play classes other than the 3 i mentioned with more abilites and subsequently a action camera, tab target mouse feature like GW2 to selet from your much larger selction of abilites on AT MOST 2 bars instead of esos 2 bars you swap between and than select from with the actual buttons on your keyboard or controller. honestly i feel like if you have played both or at least understand the general flow of boths combat styles and imagine a love child between em, you got your idea for what ashes will be especially if they decide to spice thigns up with the same yellow and red focus attacks and guard bashes as well as even maybe parries for tanks perfect blocking and maybe even defelcts for perfect dodges like from for honor where if you deflect, it can give you free attacks during an enemies attack that maybe even can stun them to reward you for your defelct.

Yea man! I’m going to play it more again closer til alpha 2 if throne and Liberty isn’t fun long enough. Really good game so I don’t get why it’s not super mainstream

Due to the mediocre launch and little to no marketing, and the marketing that was done was pretty lame/cringe, and those who played had no end game for quite a while. Then the servers in WvW (the unique feature at the time)started dying due to people joining the bigger/stronger servers. :/

@@Amasoful it all makes sense now. I just remembered there was a recent big feature/update regarding classes and I saw no further marketing of it 🧐 sounds bout right

Thats crazy, went to go check the new weapons for classes yesterday, gw2 is still awesome but god damn its hard to 1vX

Thanks Shao!!! means a lot!

Thanks yea! It needs to be impactful, because even if we run out of quests, features to explore, etc in alpha 2 ; the combat is what we’ll always have and be doing the most

The combat for A2 does not need to be perfect, but as long as the concept is good, it will be amazing at launch.

I recently saw this was in WoW! How’s it feel? It new?

Purely just for preference . Tho some say it feels better in melee combat

@@Nyce-Gaming Melee is preference for sure, but AC is an objective disadvantage for ranged combat. It would be awesome to compensate for that disadvantage with a small stat boost so the players with fast hands can express their skill. It would make AC meta for the highest level of ranged combat that only the best players could pull off, which gives a lot of longevity to the game when players try to learn a harder system. As it is, AC will probably fall to the wayside and never get used compared to how strong tab will be.

So funny fact, I have never played poe1 and d4 was my only arpg. I watched the Poe2 showcase and was sooooo impressed! I think I shall. You know when the beta is?

@@Nyce-Gaming All I know of is a closed beta for supporters sometime this year, not too sure on the dates. However, I think you do a very good job covering games and I would be very interested in some breakdowns or build showcases from it!

@@Nem3D Thanks for letting me know! I loooove theorycrafting and there’s really no better build crafting than poe or arpgs in general. Will research today

I can get behind that. I really like GW2 too, but for me it was the bar swap cooldown. Weird combat design choice imo

You can tell Steven has drawn a lot of inspiration from his time on archeage. As much as I’m used to bar swapping in other games, I must say; the character automatically pulling out the weapon associated with the skill is very smooth

lol welcome back Fyre!!! Anyone that uses B cannot be trusted!!!

Yea I figured at the very least it’ll be something to help kill time until alpha 2 and experience a MMO launch. I know a lot of people who dislike tab target and this a good game for them to try to get used to it

Agreed. Huuuuge difference maker

Yea everything isn’t for everyone, but they adding the action camera was a great quality of life feature for players and feels ok to me. I don’t think most that enjoys a traditional tab camera / used to one will appreciate it as much tbf. But yes I agree that had it been a long time goal of T&L like it is for AOC it’d be even better. I don’t share the opinion that the action camera gets rendered pointless as it’s more so of just a preference thing. Plus there’s very detailed customization qol settings for the above issue you stated about having to be looking in that direction if I recall but could be wrong. I personally just think there will be preferential biases when it comes to users when they get their hands on it

@@Nyce-Gaming boy I hope it's not for everyone, y'know what they say about trying to please everyone 🤣. I just didn't like the idea of rotating my action cam slightly and losing my already locked on target. You saw this also during the fighter stream when Steven moved the reticle to the right and his attack missed. But I would rather it be a skill issue by design rather than a LOS issue due to bad design. If that makes sense.

90% of abileties lock in combat whaaattt? You sure played TL?

@@Roarrior oh yea that makes sense. That does tend to happen . I noticed it’s never happening with the basic attacks. I’m curious on if there’s a way to make it smoother . Probably can never be as smooth as traditional tab tho

Very true

Likewise. It may become my waiting room for aoc

This blasphemy will not be forgiven nor tolerated

I think a lot of survival game enjoyers prefer tab. I kid you not, I didn’t know people actually kept tab for inventory key bind until a week ago I prefer I cause it makes sense associating with it letter wise like M for Map and never needed to inventory so fast the bind had to be closer. However B does look more optimal for sure

@@Nyce-Gaming haha that‘s crazy. I usually have map on ^ next to escape. This way, I never need to search on the keyboard for I or M.

@@grizzlydynamics truuuue that makes sense. Honestly, with the way the bag system is in aoc, maybe I’ll be going in inventory a little so should reconsider

Haha, yea.

Yea, they definitely won’t be copies of each other, it’s just displays the most similar approaches to aoc right now for combat design. But I’m sure aoc will have a completely different feel. Which other tab oriented games have you tried?

@@Nyce-Gaming all of them lol, no really though most I suppose. I started with EQ in 98 I think. Went to anarchy online then to SWG then wow and so on.

😂 Where do you hotkey your inventory?

@@Nyce-Gaming on "B" ofc. If they're going to make the hotkey for inventory "I", I'm changing it to "B" 😄

@@Zigzak6010 lol fair

@@Nyce-Gaming I find it inconvenient to reach for "I" with my left hand.. 😅

And I respect your opinion. I thought I laid out why I came to this conclusion well however. They exhibit a lot of similarities from what we’ve seen just like gw2. Since this is a far away comparison, could you list which you feel is closer?