What Happened to Secret Wars!?
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26 күн бұрынWhat Happened to Secret Wars!?
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Exploring the Marvel Secret Wars Collection with Bobby Vala | History of Secret Wars Action Figures & Mattel
Join Bobby Vala on this exciting journey as he dives deep into his impressive Marvel Secret Wars collection! In this episode, Bobby shares his passion for these iconic action figures, providing an in-depth look at their history and the story behind their creation.
Video Highlights:
Introduction to Marvel Secret Wars: Discover the origins of the Marvel Secret Wars comic series and how it became a pivotal event in the Marvel Universe.
Bobby Vala’s Collection Showcase: Bobby takes you through his personal collection of Marvel Secret Wars action figures, highlighting rare pieces and discussing their unique features.
History of Secret Wars Action Figures: Learn about the collaboration between Marvel and Mattel that brought these beloved characters to life in the form of action figures. Bobby delves into the design, production, and marketing strategies that made these toys a hit in the 1980s.
Behind the Scenes with Mattel: Uncover the fascinating history of Mattel, one of the world's leading toy manufacturers. From its humble beginnings to becoming a giant in the toy industry, Mattel’s journey is filled with innovation and creativity.
Collecting Tips & Insights: Whether you're a seasoned collector or just starting out, Bobby shares valuable tips and insights on building and maintaining your own action figure collection.
About Bobby Vala:
Bobby Vala is a former Hasbro designer and the creator of Valaverse, a company dedicated to producing high-quality action figures and collectibles. With a deep passion for the toy industry and an extensive background in design, Bobby brings a unique perspective to his collection and shares his expertise with fellow enthusiasts.
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The Secret Wars toy line is a beloved collection of action figures that holds a special place in the history of both Marvel Comics and the toy industry. Here's an overview of the Secret Wars toy line:
Origins and Background
Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars was a 12-issue comic book limited series published by Marvel Comics from 1984 to 1985. Written by Jim Shooter and illustrated by Mike Zeck and Bob Layton, the series was a major crossover event featuring many of Marvel's most popular heroes and villains. The storyline involved a cosmic entity known as the Beyonder, who transported these characters to a distant planet called Battleworld to engage in an epic battle between good and evil.
Partnership with Mattel
The Secret Wars toy line was produced by Mattel, one of the largest toy manufacturers in the world. The collaboration between Marvel and Mattel was driven by the comic book series' potential to promote a new line of action figures. At the time, Kenner's successful Star Wars action figures had set a high standard in the industry, and Mattel sought to create a competitive product using Marvel's characters.
The Action Figures
Released in 1984, the Secret Wars toy line featured 3.75-inch action figures, a size that was highly popular due to the Star Wars figures. The initial wave included:
Heroes: Captain America, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Doctor Octopus.
Villains: Doctor Doom, Magneto, Kang the Conqueror, and others.
Each figure came with a secret shield that could hold interchangeable lenticular images, known as "Secret Shields." These images would change when tilted, depicting various scenes and characters.
The Secret Wars figures were also released in international markets with some variations. For instance, in Europe, figures were produced by the company Gulliver, and some characters were released that were not available in the U.S., such as Iceman and Constrictor.
Legacy and Impact
The Secret Wars toy line is remembered fondly by collectors and fans. It marked an important moment in the history of action figures, demonstrating the potential of comic book properties in the toy market. While the line was relatively short-lived, lasting only until 1985, it laid the groundwork for future superhero action figure lines and is often cited as an inspiration for later Marvel toy series.
Collectability
Today, Secret Wars action figures are highly sought after by collectors. Mint-condition figures, especially those with their original packaging and accessories, can fetch significant prices in the collectors' market. The toy line's nostalgic appeal and connection to a landmark comic book event make it a cherished part of many collections.
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@Valaverse 25 күн бұрын
Was Secret Wars better than Super Powers?
@impossiblepie 25 күн бұрын
Not as good as Super Powers, but I still think the line is good, I had a few growing up, I want to get the Hobgoblin and the Spiderman figures.
@Snakeeyes8181 25 күн бұрын
No
@denzense 25 күн бұрын
Dc all the way!!
@AFAFsamedwards 24 күн бұрын
Looking at your collection Super Powers was better. I loved the Super Powers cartoon on Saturday mornings but I never had or collected the toys. It was Hot Wheels and Star Wars until 82 when ARAH hit the pegs. Since my dad was in the service and I grew up on military bases it was all G.I. Joes until I got a skateboard. Now as an adult collector it’s still Hot Wheels, Black Series instead of vintage, and Action Force replaced classified as my main military line. Sorry for the long answer but I love these history stories about toys and just sharing my history toy collecting story. Lol. Thanks for doing these, please keep doing them, and have a good day sir.
@DareDevilDave75 24 күн бұрын
I actually only had a couple of the superpowers figures as a kid, but I had five or six of the secret wars figures. Maybe they aren’t better, but they sure have a strong place in my memories! Once again, great video.💚💚
@BiggestDawgEver 22 күн бұрын
I am not sure you have read Secret Wars. For the record, it was written to promote the toy line, not the other way around. Dr. Doom is based on how he appears in the comic in the finale. What is really strange is that a bunch of the figures aren't even in the story. Zemo, Electro, Iceman, Daredevil, Falcon, Constrictor and Hobgoblin were not in the comics.
@Gunwitch666 22 күн бұрын
I collected both Mattels's Secret Wars and Kenner's Super Powers action figures. I have find memories of my mom taking me to Kmart & Sears to pick up 1 SW & 1 SP figure every weekend. I remember being kind of disappointed with the lack of quality on the Secret Wars figures and being very impressed with the detail Kenner put into the Super Powers line. Great video! Please do more! 👏🏻
@royal5922 24 күн бұрын
I love seeing you go through your collection. its like a toy museum and you're giving us a history lesson.
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@darthsmoker420 20 күн бұрын
I love Secret Wars. They were one of my favorite figures to actually play with. The shields and guns weren't necessary but i loved it anyway. Liked them far more than super powers
@grizzlynightmare8011 24 күн бұрын
It’s awesome to see that you have the Clash of the Titans toy line. I am a big Ray Harryhausen fan. Jason and the Argonauts is one of my favorite movies.
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Great toys and a great movie
@pedroalmeida3474 24 күн бұрын
I remember as a kid to be super disappointed when they got everything wrong, no shield, weird weapons, no capes, useless things that made no sense... the best was Spider-Man with the black suit
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
It’s unfortunate
@caseysmith3329 22 күн бұрын
Secret Wars were some of my first action figures. Cap, Iron Man, Dr. Doom, and Daredevil. I still have them, but they are a product of my customizing experimentation. Doom is accurate to how he looks in the Secret Wars comics. Hobgoblin, Falcon, Daredevil and Zemo were not even in the comic series, but still have figures. Strange when they still had so many other figures they could have made from the comic. There were also no female characters in Secret Wars while Super Powers gave us Wonder Woman.
@budgiecat9039 22 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure I had both Spider-Man, Captain America, Doc Ock and Wolverine. I had a Storm too with a light up chest was that Secret Wars?
@jordel2010 15 күн бұрын
I agree with nearly everything you say here. As much as the Kenner Super Powers line gets criticized for the figures being gimmicky, Mattel's Marvel Secret Wars is absolutely baffling how it got executed. As you well put it, why in the world would they include these lenticular things that had absolutely no play value, and yet some figures didn't get accessories most essential to them, like Captain America missing his iconic shield (but Wolverine got his claws and Daredevil his billy club)? Capeless Magneto and Dr. Doom are just unforgivable.
@marvelsteveo 23 күн бұрын
I loved it in the comics when Dr Doom used his 4 arms...
@budgiecat9039 22 күн бұрын
MCU is gonna mess up Secret Wars so bad. Hulk holding up the mountain and Doctor Doom fighting the Beyonder and somehow winning despite being near death were two of my favorite moments in comics
@stevenmccann2891 20 күн бұрын
I LOVED this line. Sucked that there were so many characters we never got. This was definitely my favorite superhero line at the time. We were so young, and these were so new- we didn't think or care about the specifics at the time lol.
@thisithis 23 күн бұрын
Actually, it's called a temporary license. It gave Mettel a certain amount of time and I don't have a clue how much time Mettel had, but if the time limit ran out the license would either go back to the license holder that being Marvel, or the license holder would extend the time limit. And seeing how Secret Wars failed, I don't think Marvel decided to extend that temporary license. The same thing happened to Playmates and Universal Animated Studios's Exosquad and Playmates and Landmark Entertainment Group's Skeleton Warriors. Basically, Playmates didn't own Exosquad or Skeleton Warriors and when the real rights holders decided to end their respective franchises they also didn't renew them as well.
@WagesofCine 24 күн бұрын
Kenner Super Powers was always my pick in the toy aisle as a kid.
@PanelstoPixels 21 күн бұрын
I've heard that Mattel viewed Secret Wars as a budget line to complement Masters of the Universe. Same basic proportion as MOTU but smaller scale, fewer unique accessories, etc. I think that says a lot about their attitude towards this line in comparison to Kenner's approach to Super Powers.
@batforcegrump 21 күн бұрын
One problem with this line was the paint rub in the summer time. When it got hot outside the paint would smudge. 😢
@robertsinfiniterealms1308 25 күн бұрын
I remember this line well. Doom is how he appeared at the end of the Secret Wars comic, advanced armor an no cape so that was why. I seem to remember the figure appeared before he appeared that way in the comic though. As a kid the shields were fun the first time you saw them but got old very quickly. I have a memory of an interview with Jim starlin saying the toy line was an afterthought by marvel and Mattel and it was rushed. I want to say it was in wizard or toy fare magazine but I might be remembering it wrong. I’ll try to track it down as I think it’s one of the few issues I still have.
@SameTimeToys 25 күн бұрын
Love that you have them all in your office. Great inspiration. Love the secret wars figures due to nostalgia lol. Great perspective you really need to do more of these, and I’m pretty sure you meant doc ock has 4 arms lol. Great job brother lovin it
@benfrakes7 17 күн бұрын
Secret Wars maybe my favorite line of all time because I feel it influenced and introduced a new depth to Marvel’s superhero’s and to comics in general. I was 8 when these came out still a fan to this day.
@CutThroatComics 22 күн бұрын
Great Video. I love that you give us the great inside stuff on how companies cut corners with action figures that we loved when we were kids.
@daleharford8339 23 күн бұрын
I helped to pick and pack orders and also unloaded containers. My boss was a guy called Paul Webber, who was probably the best boss I've ever worked for, because he was tough but fair. But my worst day on the job was when he got us all together and told us we had been made redundant, as the bottom had dropped out of the economy and we couldn't be kept on. I think this happened some time in the 1990s
@Pegwarmers 22 күн бұрын
They also didn't focus on characters from the Comic Tie-In. Why no Mr. Fantastic?
@k-wud4105 24 күн бұрын
Hobgoblin was only introduced in 1983 and Marvel was pushing him big time, they were hoping he'd be A tier. It makes perfect sense he'd have such a good figure.
@michaelbentz418 24 күн бұрын
At the time, I was 9 and gi joe dominated all the action figures at the time. Swivel arm battle grip was game changer. I still had a Spider-Man and a cap, but they were so non possible and they couldn’t get into any vehicles.
@albo9246 23 күн бұрын
At least Doom DID look like that in the last issue. Falcon, Hobgoblin, Zemo, DD, Iceman, Constrictor, Electro...none were even in Secret Wars. :)
@bannedfreespeech 22 күн бұрын
You ckuld find Kang figures at toys r us in the 90s next to the flash from super powerrs
@jesseperry9602 20 күн бұрын
I gotta admit....through this whole video i thought we were moments away from an announcement of a 4 inch line of original super hero characters from Valaverse...which my wallet would hate but i would absolutely love!! 😂
@JoshBook 21 күн бұрын
You hit all the points of what these figures were lacking. (Also as someone else commented the paint would rub off fairly easily). I had a few of them back in they day. One note is that Dr. Doom matches his new look on the Secret Wars 11 cover, that's why he didn't have the cape. I wonder though which came first - the comic design with no cape, or if someone said they weren't going to have capes in the toy line and that determined his look in the comic? I always thought Doom looks way better with his cape and torso clothes vs the bare streamlined look. He feels less menacing with his sleeker silhouette and form.
@FFFFPPPP 24 күн бұрын
Carbon Scoring posted a Secret Wars vid today that combined his SW comic and figure reviews series into a 1 hour 42 minute supercut. He recreates the comic covers of every book with Marvel Legends versions of each figure in the line. This includes the three international figures. He said his Electro was carded and that he opened it, so his is mint. He wished he would have made an unboxing vid since opening a 30 year old vintage figure would have gotten him some views.
@dudemanrodATN 24 күн бұрын
I understand where Bobby coming from in hindsight but at the time Marvel was not the power house till the 90s cartoons. DC had Batman 66' , Superman 78', the new adventures of Batman and Super Friends that fueled that line by Kenner. Where Marvel had Hulk live action tv and spiderman and his amazing friends cartoon. No big films like superman and failed shows like spiderman 77' live action. Mattel went off the comics which sold well but Marvel did not have superfriends style show to Market to kids so they probably didn't want to spend a lot of money in tooling for characters they don't know will sell. As much as we love comics we know that a tv or movie will boost popularity of the property.
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
You could be right
@freddyvidz 22 күн бұрын
I LOVE Super Powers AND Secret Wars.
@BrianMichaelLynch Күн бұрын
LOVE the Doom Roller though.
@danielstjohn3018 24 күн бұрын
Enjoyed your comparison... between the two.!! Great video.!! You are so right about Secret Wars.!! I sure wished they would have been better figures. It would have been so great if they were as good as Super Powers.!!
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
You and me both!
@The_singularity 21 күн бұрын
Your knowledge and insight into the toy industry and its history is really cool, Bobby. Thank you for making content like this, and for keeping it real. This line, and Super Powers are really cool, and you know a lot about them! I don’t own them, but you’ve given me a bit of interest in one day owning some of these thanks to your videos.
@J.dioramas 23 күн бұрын
Only thing missing is the articulation
@budgiecat9039 22 күн бұрын
Yeah I was not a fan of that considering I had G.I. Joe, Sectaurs, and even some Super Sentai (Bioman) which had way better articulation.
@thetitan914 25 күн бұрын
Had quite a few of these as a kid, definitely brings back memories watching this video. I do like how you guys display these older toy lines in your office. Feels like there's not only an awareness, but a respect for the past. While at the same time being a thrown down gauntlet to step on your game. (I might be reading too much into it)
@jamesbrooks5391 22 күн бұрын
The ironic thing being that Mattel is the one who ultimately did a Super Powers tribute line, and they did a great job with it!
@Salsaandoval82 24 күн бұрын
I had some of these too. Not the best ,but we did get toy biz Marvel superheroes. Great video!
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hammertronactionfigures2426 23 күн бұрын
Hasbro's Marvel Universe 4" line of action figures looked like fun. Although, the 6" line is better. However, the 4" line could have had vehicles and play sets and diorama sets more easily than the 6" line.
@GBru-hx6rx 23 күн бұрын
I know I must be in the minority here, but I always got annoyed when toylines excluded the female characters. It bugged me how hard it was to find Janine, from Ghostbusters or April O'Neil from TMNT. When I was in the first grade, my brother and I got a ton of Toy Biz X-Men for Christmas. We did not get Rogue, Storm, Jean or any of the women who appeared in the show. So, a few months later, when my birthday rolled around, and I was asked what I wanted and I just said "One of the girl X-Men." I got Rogue. I played with Rogue exclusively for a week afterwards. I was so psyched to have an X-Man that wasn't a dude. That original Toy Biz Rogue from the 90s is still one of my favorite figures.
@dannycruz5446 24 күн бұрын
I wonder why Gentle Giant was able to do Mattel Secret Wars packaging for their Secret Wars Jumbo and bobblehead figures 🤔
@ELECTRIKDOOM77 24 күн бұрын
Hey Bobby!! Every time you put out a new video and you talk about these different toy lines it makes me think about and remember my Saturday morning trips to KAY-BEE and TOYS-R-US with my grandfather and that makes me smile so thank you!!😁👍
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Glad you like them! Check out the video I did with Toy Attics to get more of the same!
@fynncobb9122 23 күн бұрын
Another great video.
@BeRealWithDReal 23 күн бұрын
Secret Wars did indeed take place before Crisis in the comics.
@waskerbasket9601 24 күн бұрын
I had both, and I loved both, but I loved I loved Secret Wars way more.
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Yea!?
@martenmehem 18 күн бұрын
I usually have always shelved my things by genre or maker…but, I like the idea you have here-to compare lines of the same years I do do it a bit with my older vintage 12ish inch figure displays (like Gabriel, Mattel, etc)
@gofannon1943 24 күн бұрын
I personally do like the Secret Wars figures more! For me it’s their lanky and more dynamic (albeit less articulated) limbs. There was something simple, satisfying and iconic about them compared to the more squat super powers line. Both lines are awesome, I just like SW a bit more.
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Fair enough!
@Bentaur 20 күн бұрын
I would love to hear what you think of kenners star wars lines and how they fell apart. Your insight on these older toy lines is very interesting! Keep it up!
@demetricsmith471 24 күн бұрын
Now that i think about it, was Baron Zemo even in the Secret War comic series? I don't remember Hobgoblin and Falcon either? It wouldn't surprise me that some characters were featured because their size fit the build of the molds that were already in use. One general build for an entire line.
@GBru-hx6rx 23 күн бұрын
Falcon was in Secret Wars. He's on the cover of the first issue.
@mitewing6531 23 күн бұрын
No, Falcon wasn't in the first Secret Wars at all. He wasn't on the cover on the first issue either. He might have been in Secret Wars II, though.
@budgiecat9039 22 күн бұрын
No Molecule Man No Claw
@demetricsmith471 22 күн бұрын
@@budgiecat9039 those would have been awesome choices for the line.
@Teksetta 17 күн бұрын
I just found your channel a few weeks ago and really have been enjoying it. I noticed in a video with Toy Attics you had a few Exo Squad figures lined up. I'd very interested to know your thoughts on Playmates and what they did with the IP, short of them then bringing in the Robotech line.
@uniballoutlaw 24 күн бұрын
had a few of them as a kid and specifically remember having the Secret Wars Spiderman
@comicbookbin 24 күн бұрын
The Secret Wars comic was a response to the Crisis on Infinite Earths maxi-series that Marvel managed to pull just ahead of DC as they heard of it through the grapevine. Infamously, Jim Shooter was asked to add a nose on Iron Man in the comics because there was one on the Secret Wars toy. For the next few years, you can see a bump on Iron Man's face mask in the comics.
@ChristopherProspero 23 күн бұрын
Lol I was 6 when I collected secret wars and HATED spidermans incomplete web lining, those dumb lenticular shields and no captain america shield. But I still loved the line. It was strange lol and funny to me that I didn't think the designs made sense even as a 6 year old!
@podcastfromthepit3132 23 күн бұрын
Great video
@Valaverse 23 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@arctrooper999 3 күн бұрын
Just a few thoughts....the story of Mattel's market research said boys liked Secret and Wars the best, so that old Secret Wars commercial had Doc. Doom blowing up a building in the shield, and Spidey's like how do we stop him and Cap said that's our Secret, Spider-Man or something. I think Mattel literally went with "Secret Wars", with the shields being some kind of super hero Morse code or spider sense, Shooter's definition of the words were that they fight on a faraway planet maybe? Either way, there seemed to be a disconnect between Mattel and Marvel, similar to the disconnect between Kenner and DC/ Superfriends cartoon. At least that garder belt on Doc Doom's leg had a slot to hold anyone's laser gun, right?😂
@LandofMert76 25 күн бұрын
man, these bring back memories. I liked the lines equally as a kid. The lack of articulation didn't matter as much as having the characters. I wasn't reading all the comics, so some characters I didn't know what they were supposed to have. Super Powers were coo, but sometimes their gimmicks got in the way of being able to play with them. The most annoying part of Secret Wars now, is that some of those character didn't even take part in the comic series.
@FigureFever 23 күн бұрын
Even though I am a Marvel fan. I did like the Super Powers figures. Batman, Darkseid, Mantis, and especially Brainiac. 🙂
@donalddjackson2633 23 күн бұрын
had a couple of those.
@Micanick78 24 күн бұрын
Nice Bobby....
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Thanks 👍
@hammertronactionfigures2426 23 күн бұрын
Maybe part of why those super hero action figures didn't last very long in the 80s is because they didn't scale well with other action figures of the time like Star Wars or GI Joe.
@christophercrockett2972 25 күн бұрын
From what I remember reading many years ago, since Marvel wasn’t the known brand it is today, they didn’t want to invest too money into property that only had a couple of recognizable characters. Plus, it was only meant to be kinda a secondary line behind He-Man, their big moneymaker. It would be nice if you could interview one of the guys from the team, I’m sure are still around.
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
That could be true.
@daleharford8339 24 күн бұрын
Having said that, I did buy several of Kenner's Super Power Collection. Dr Fate, Mantis, Brainiac, The Joker, Aquaman, Hawkman, Green Lantern and Green Arrow. I remember two things about them. One was being disappointed by their lack of articulation and the other being a spelling error on Green Arrow's bio; they'd called him Olive Queen instead of Oliver
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Maybe he was the queen of olives
@AllBreaksLoose 25 күн бұрын
I entered some contest for secret wars and won the comic book series issues 1,2, and 5-12. There was a shortage on the issues 3&4 run so they sent me two MOTU figures to make up for it. Which worked out cause I had a MOTU collection. I did hunt down 3&4. Love the series. The figures had the worst paint. Easily came off just from handling the figures. But the few I had I really liked. But hey Vala, nice collection. Brings back nice memories. Hope you can find the last 3 you need.
@Valaverse 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TarikDeFriez 16 күн бұрын
I love seeing your perspective on these toys/lines even if I don't always agree with your opinions. Why didn't Hasbro want to do Secret Wars 2.0? It seems like it would be a slam dunk. My kids would love that.
@k-dawgbroadcasting5444 24 күн бұрын
There were only about 20 heroes and a dozen or so villains in the Secret Wars storyline. It kept faithful to the comic in the first wave, although it featured a Kang who was killed off in the first third of the comics. It would've had a bit longer run, I feel, if it had kept up and got the FF, the rest of the X-Men, Hulk, the other Avengers...in addition to Molecule Man, Absorbing Man, Ultron...it was such a missed opportunity to give us the characters we wanted. They definitely were a diet version of Super Powers. Even the Tower of Doom, while cool, was shoehorned in at the last minute in the comics.
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Ha. A diet version.
@christopherbandish6060 22 күн бұрын
How about a video on Toy Biz LotR figures? I absolutely love them and I almost never hear any love for them, except for you. I’d love to hear your insights and opinions on them as someone who worked behind the curtain
@Gojitron1 24 күн бұрын
The lenticular shields were a huge miss and a boring play feature. Couple that with lack of basic accessories like a regular shield for Cap and capes for Magneto and Doom and I found the line to be very lackluster. Also, strange choice to do characters that weren't in the comics vs doing a full X-Men team, the FF the Wrecking Crew, etc.
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
I do wonder how they chose characters.
@benf4464 23 күн бұрын
Link for those secret war stands??
@jeddysne 24 күн бұрын
Even with their part reuse, Kenner's Robin hood was pretty cool. I never stop wondering about how great it would have been if they had the Hook line instead of Mattel.
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Oh yea!
@Ajztoyz 24 күн бұрын
The whole time I’ve been focused on the John Matrix figure you have on the display case…lol…I can only say that the XMen and Marvel Superheroes line made up for the Secret Wars shortfalls. They must have had non-fans make the Secret Wars line. There were no cartoons like Superfriends to market as well. I know they had the old Spider-Man cartoons and the X-men one offs, but if you weren’t a comic book nerd back then you wouldn’t even have known some of the characters in the Secret Wars line…
@kyotofilms1666 23 күн бұрын
Finding out a lot of things about Mattel in the 80s, MOTU was their big cash cow. It’s possible they didn’t have big resources to assign to this line. It’s also puzzling looking back that they didn’t make these like MOTU with the 5.5” bodies. They’re partially there In articulation and body style.
@scockery 19 күн бұрын
That was from what I heard deliberate choice. Making them like MOTU in that same scale, would be competing with themselves. Secret Wars said to be a "flanker brand" made really just to compete with Super Powers.
@user-mk5dj3bk5q 24 күн бұрын
Valaverse...what do u think of mezco?
@TheNightBadger 22 күн бұрын
I think they just didn't know anything about the characters, and thought they would compete with Kenner by making a super hero line on the cheap. They might've had the lenticular stuff already designed for something else and just stuck it in as a selling gimmick. They probably just didn't get that super heroes don't need those bizarre things to sell - just the right sort of accessories. Whenever I look at the line I just think 'Where is Hulk?' He was an A-lister at the time. We got Kang, but we didn't get Hulk. We got Zemo, Hobgoblin, Iceman, Falcon and Electro, but we didn't get Hulk.
@GumbosGhost 23 күн бұрын
Daredevil was pretty popular when these came one, I remember all the kids were talking about Daredevil comics at this time, I think the Elektra storyline was going on , I would say more popular than Iron man, Black Spiderman was also very popular
@daleharford8339 24 күн бұрын
When I lived in Auckland, I worked at Mattel's distribution centre, and I wouldn't say that they were lazy or basic. Although I don't recall seeing Secret Wars figures, even though we may have had them, I remember there being some really cool Spider-Man toys, and I even bought some, including Swarm, Tarantula, Blade and and a couple of Spider-Man figures, one of which had a sunlight blaster
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
You worked there? Interesting!
@Hail2daking 22 күн бұрын
I would've had an even more epic childhood if hasbro accepted your idea of bringing back secret wars .
@powerturtlebusters 24 күн бұрын
That one video where you was explaining the tmnt reissues I can sum up In one word, continuation, you was 100% on everything but yea man. They are the legit tmnt just a different year, so continuation is the word I was hoping to mentally give you while watching lol
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Ha so you watched Toy Attics video as well! Fantastic!
@powerturtlebusters 23 күн бұрын
@@Valaverseyep, was eating at my sould waiting for you to say it, cause I knew exactly what you meant, so I'm like I have to help my boy out. Lol happy fathersday btw
@Valaverse 23 күн бұрын
Thanks so much!
@scockery 19 күн бұрын
Hobgoblin, a third tier Spider-Man villain? WHOA. Hold on. Hobby was hitting big at that time in the comics. Major story arc. Green Goblin was still dead for the first time. Venom didn't exist yet. Hobgoblin was the big deal.
@joncarroll2040 18 күн бұрын
Hobgoblin was at best B-List. He had only just appeared and didn't have the same enduring popularity of the characters who had been created in the 60s.
@traviswilcox3472 25 күн бұрын
I was a Marvel kid so really liked the Secret Wars figures. Marvel’s Secret Wars comic series did come out before DC’s Crisis Of Infinite Earths & the comics were better than the DC books but the Secret Wars figs were not as good as they could have been. Why was Daredevil in the figure line?..he never was in the SW comic series. Very odd stuff.
@Valaverse 25 күн бұрын
Very weird
@luciferdiesalone 24 күн бұрын
Since you've worked in the industry I'm sure a lot of lines have a lot of back story on why something got done and why it was done that way . How do you figure out who was involved in the project of a certain line ? Like not to point fingers but to interviews and stuff .
@SkunkLifeMedia 24 күн бұрын
ooh id love to see him interview some old school toy devs from the lines he collected.
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Would you guys like to see me interview other people from the industry?
@SkunkLifeMedia 23 күн бұрын
@@Valaverse me personally yeah, hearing your stories makes me wonder what others went through on making various lines, good and bad. Curious how folks navigate figure budgets vs corporate mandates, interference, etc. Success stories, and the not so successful stories, stuff like that
@Valaverse 23 күн бұрын
We will keep that in mind!
@luciferdiesalone 23 күн бұрын
@@Valaverse id personally would like to know more about process , ideas , design, info why certain choices where made . I see a lot of collectors just tend to be Baching a line or a figure but we don't get context on what and why it's done, like limiting budget So the budget goes to one figure and limits the rest, or when repaints are necessary to reuse molds. When is it politic, when is it due to license issues etc. At least that's what I'd be interested .
@Stygian360 24 күн бұрын
Spot on. Is why you see Secret Wars figures in a lot of fodder bins even today. Just not a great line even if it is an important part of AF history.
@RaymondCastile 24 күн бұрын
The Clash line flopped. Maybe Mattel had that in mind when they approached Secret Wars. They were determined not to lose money on the line. Anyway, despite all the shortcomings, I prefer Secret Wars over Super Powers. The SW figures look edible. There is something fun and lovable about out them. I once owned a complete carded set of SW, including the international figures. I never owned more than a handful of Super Powers. I found them boring. They had no weirdness, no uncanniness, no individual aesthetic. They simply were exactly what they were. I found them anti-fascinating.
@alanrussette2819 24 күн бұрын
I never liked the action features in Super Powers. I'd have been good with the Super Powers sculpt, but the more basic articulation. I liked to play with my toys. I wasn't particularly rough with mine, but I wasn't super gentle, either. All that being said, I have a soft spot for Secret Wars because I like the characters more.
@israeltrevino3046 23 күн бұрын
Bobby wanted to ask your thoughts on Haslab Cantina set.
@brokenserenity01 10 күн бұрын
given they were making masters of the universe at the same time as this line, it always surrpised me they didnt just use the stuff from that line to make secret wars figures...i bet it would have sold way better.
@briandain8432 25 күн бұрын
Super Powers were Fun as they were FRAGILE. At least the short lived Secret Wars I only ever knew Second Hand and Rarely ever with Accessories, but the Plastic Figures could be played with, launched across the room, tossed in a bucket, they where articulated Muscles with better paint jobs!
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
I hear ya.
@benflay6038 18 күн бұрын
Where was Hulk huge missing figure and Thor. Loved this line tho the bike for cap ,doom cycle but caps paint came off fast dr ocks arms snapped easy
@mitewing6531 23 күн бұрын
I think Mattel was simply using the same time and money saving ideas that they learned from MOTU, but to a more higher extreme.
@briandain8432 25 күн бұрын
What about that fabled Doctor Doom Tower playset?? I don't remember ANY of this stuff in stores.
@darkestcloister 24 күн бұрын
17:00
@briandain8432 24 күн бұрын
@@darkestcloister 5pm in Military Time??
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
He's saying that at the 17 minut mark you can see the play set.
@SoWizardPodcast 23 күн бұрын
I loved this line as a kid but even then the character choices were baffling. No FF, no Hulk, no Thor, no more XMen….
@budgiecat9039 22 күн бұрын
Didn't X-Men have their own line? I definitely remember owning a Storm figure that has a light up chest that I would use in conjunction with these...🤔
@SoWizardPodcast 22 күн бұрын
@@budgiecat9039 those were ToyBiz ones years later.
@budgiecat9039 22 күн бұрын
@@SoWizardPodcast ah
@avatargaruda 24 күн бұрын
have you review Bandai's shodo, Chodo or Yudo figures? it's 1/18 scale, some of them are cheap but full articulation, or warhammer's from joy toy.
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Maybe we should
@avatargaruda 22 күн бұрын
@@Valaversei've been collecting them about a year now. It's not much though. Because got disappointed with overpriced from Mattel and Hasbro in the 3:75 or 1/18 scale (at least in Indonesia).
@Valaverse 20 күн бұрын
Cool!
@OnkelCthulhu 24 күн бұрын
Love that Monster in my Pocket mountain you can see in the bachground
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Oh yea! Love that!
@jasonhinman6173 23 күн бұрын
Holograms were hot at the time, so toy designers thought. The Visionaries, Supernaturally, eve. Transformers. Kids were into it for about 5 seconds, but not enough to be the gimmick. It worked for Transformers because it was such a small part of the play.
@noahjdrake5553 23 күн бұрын
I have a question about how figures are developed when they’re based off movies and games. Do the companies give the 3D renders to the toy companies, or do they just give them concept arts and images? I’m asking because Jazwares Call of Duty figures have really weird body proportions and have really low detail.
@jolietghostbusters9162 14 күн бұрын
I never looked at it like that…
@hammertronactionfigures2426 23 күн бұрын
Maybe Mattel was too heavily influenced by their Masters of the Universe line of actin figures. The Marvel Comics characters already had established looks. Mattel had created Masters of the Universe and had nothing to compare it with so the design choices were easier.
@briandain8432 25 күн бұрын
And this is Exactly Why it's so amazing to me to have Marvel, DC, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, TMNT, all in 2 inch Lego and thanks to the insanely short lived KREO GIJOE AND TRANSFORMERS and Mega-con MOTU, but I can actually build better Grey Skulls & Snake Mountains than can be reasonably sold for you Man-boys' Golden 6 inch standard.
@SoldadoColeccionista8927 24 күн бұрын
Wow, Clash of the Titans!! I remember them and loved the figures so much!!! Nice vid!!! Also, for some strange reason, you came as “Friends that I might know” on Facebook! 😅
@Valaverse 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@LosMSR 17 күн бұрын
There is a rumor of a ML wave of this story.
@GBru-hx6rx 23 күн бұрын
It is strange that they didn't try to get more of the characters that were actually in the story in the line. No Cyclops, no Nightcrawler, no Colossus, no Rogue, no Storm, no Mr. Fantastic, no Thing, no Human Torch, no Hulk, no She-Hulk, no Wasp, no Hawkeye, no Thor, no Absorbing Man, no Galactus, no Ultron...
@mitewing6531 23 күн бұрын
You're correct. Only the first wave and the Black Spider-Man were the only figures that appeared in the first Secret Wars series.
@budgiecat9039 22 күн бұрын
They should do a reissue proper with the actual characters in the comics and better articulation
@stephens4175 17 күн бұрын
I was an early teen when these lines came out and yes that Secret Wars line was is a lazy line, even your Hobgoblin won't stop leaning against that back wall and stand straight up.
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