If you go to a DTM race, they give you used Michelin tyres if you want to. I got one just standing around in my garage

@@naebrm_ how do you get one ?

@@steveb_ I went to a DTM race this year (at the Hockenheimring) and in the DTM you can enter the paddock with every ticket and meet the drivers and stuff. And there Michelin had a stand where they just handed out free used Michelin tires from practice, quali and the race to whoever wanted one

Not sure if I’d want one that’s completely shredded, or one that was unused

Go to the F1 team store they sell them there they're not cheap but they sell them

muh doubt you could so easily reverse engineer it, I have seen enough worn F1 tyres for sale, take to much space in my opnionon tho

@@SuperOtter co-worker owns three rims from Racing Point.. Pretty big but I can imagine he would kill for an actual used tire to put on them. Edit: correction, he bought both a rim from perez and stroll... glass tables for his couch. Still bet he would kill for tires.

You can buy tunnel test versions that have the actual compound too

yeah I made a table outta an Hoosier sprint car rear tyre and cut out a round piece of ply . glued beer bottle caps allover and laquered it , looks good, recycle reuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

You can get a table on F1 Authentics... I don't think they are the latest version of the tires though.... (F2 also sometimes used the same tires as F1 (not sure about currently) (and they seem to be in single digit numebrs) Edit: Those are listed as "show tires", so I'm not sure if they have an actual compound....

Tyres not only wear out by mileage, but also wear, that's why you have a tire change either every year or when the treads are worn, whichever comes first. This effect should be more pronounced on the specialty made F1 compounds and you wouldn't want the cars being unable to run when a track suddenly gets wet, so it's a waste that has (yet) no clear answer.

Every other year is a bit of an overkill don't you think? Generally it's 5 years since the date of manufacturing. It also depends largely on storage conditions.

Here’s an idea. Let’s go back to the grooved tires from back in the day. I liked those very much.

@@TheZanzaroni why is this relevant, Pirelli considers a tire used as soon as it's been mounted on a rim, even if it just sits in the truck or back of the garage for an entire race weekend. After this it is destroyed as it has been on a rim, it as never seen a single cm actually on a car. Sky did a segment on this & in the dessert they have tens of sets of wet weather tires on rims just sat at the back of the garage just in case it rain in the desert, these get destroyed post race as they are considered "used" Also if you are changing your tires on your road car every year you are either very bad at driving, dong a hell of a lot of miles or have way to much money.

Race tires get stale and slower alot faster than road tires. They can lose grip after just a few months if they're not stored correctly.

This took me out

Right before setting the fastest lap/track record....

Lmao

@@DavidMiras can't even take a joke.

You say they hang out together, would this be in a retirement home?

That’s just dumb they could definitely sell a margin of theirs 23’000 a year to fans

@@classabjb5697 I think I read about this somewhere that they collect even the little tyre fragments because they don't want anyone to be able to reverse engineer the formula of those tyres, so I don't see that ever happening unfortunately...

@@derincosar5699 I actually have tyre pieces from Barcelona 2016 in my room as decoration

@@geluxo3041 Wow thats actually interesting. Can you explain how it happened a bit more? Thanks

@@derincosar5699 as soon as they opened the door for people to see the podium in the main straight I noticed some rubber left on the side of the track and went to pick it, next time I may get the Drs board or something as they usually forget about it

I believe this is correct. Once inflated they never quite go back to being the same. BBC had a feature on how the tyres are made and they mentioned this when discussing testing.

Forget the tyres. What about the rims???

@@A.M.T.P. I was wondering the same. I remember reading a long time ago that once a tyre was fitted to a rim and used, neither the tyre or the rim were used again??

Recycling is the process of converting waste materials into new materials and objects. The recovery of energy from waste materials is often included in this concept.

@@skycaptain95 it should not be.

@@skycaptain95 It would recover energy and not be considered recycled if it was burnt in an incineration plant where there has to be a lot of treatment to the exhaust. Cement production has far fewer regulations and thus is commonly used to get rid of the more problematic waste like tyres. This is actually worse but considered recycling somehow.

The burned statement is incorrect. They go through a process called fast pyrolysis. The tyres are heated in an oxygen free environment to the temp they normally would have combusted. This causes the tyre to break down into its components. The process is relatively self sustaining when started. At the end you recover oil, carbon black and steel. The carbon black can be used for new tyres, inks etc

@@skycaptain95 burning tires is a net loss most likely. A lot of energy already put when making it, not to mention the raw material used. Very stupid solution in my opinion, total green washing.

“Burned at a very high temperature to create energy”…… so how much energy is used for the burning and how much is created and what amount of pollution created? Glad we banned plastic straws though….. I call bull sh.it on this, anyone dumb enough to believe this?

I truly envy you if you local gas station has F1 grade fuel on tap. LoL

You can look it up online or watch their 2022 car video which gives a small description of fuel

Teams make deals with certain Perfomance Fuel manufacturers and they make fuel exclusively for them. They don't really reveal the contents of the fuel, to have an advantage over the others, obviously. For eg: Merc has Petronas, Ferrari has Shell, Mclaren has Gulf oil, RB has Esso and so on.

Every team has their own fuel supplier. Shell, Petronas, Mobil 1, Castrol etc.

@@vbence12 Funny part is Shell keeps on saying they have the same fuel in their petrol stations.

Also to avoid competitors in obtaining their tyres

Might not be the team losing the tires, might be Pirelli, the logistics company, the people who crush the tires. I'm sure, after the race has completed, the chain of command on those tires gets pretty loose.

Analysing the contruction of tyres is virtually impossible, bearing in mind all the compnents, chemicals used in their construction.

the grooved tires did that how that turn out

I know it's not comparable in any way, but Jim Clark supposedly made one set of tyres last a whole season back in the 60s.

That will make it interesting, one set of tyres for entire season, when they spent, so is your season. It’s up to each team how they strategise how hard they go on them each race. Will make for incredible strategic racing

Sticky as hell, they would just leave dark patches on the paper

Though they would get fewer tyres each time as much of the rubber is either laid down on the circuit as skid marks or is thrown off to the side as marbles.

Problem is chemistry. The vulcanisation process to harden the rubber creates crosslinks between the polymer chains, and is an irreversible process. Once you have crosslinked polymers, they don't melt under high heat. Instead, they simply fall apart and cannot be re-melted into new tyres. The only options for recycling are to either shred them and burn them as a fuel source, or to shred them and use them as aggregate in tarmac.

@@Nik-fh8ti wet and inters could be used like op comments tho

there could be unequalness (some teams not running in wet practice session for example) but you certainly could shuffle forward the bulk of unused tyres equally. the teams would probably need to buy more rims or something, because they might not want to go to the next race, but one in 2 races time because its logistically better...

I think it's a safety issue at the end of the day. Just like with everything else in F1 if it can happen they'll put measures in. Doesn't matter if it has happened or not.

@@taylorcarr6748 I think not only is it the custody of the tyres that Perilli would potentially no longer have, but heat cycles. Over a race weekend the inters and wets are sat at the correct temperature and pressure in blankets waiting to be used. If they don't get used but are left on the rim they will go cold again during transport and storage until the next race weekend when they are bought up to temp again. However it does seem massively wasteful and a shame we can't have unused tyres that are in brand new condition for coffee tables and the likes. Although I am sure my wife is glad they don't sell them.

I saw a vid of hamilton giving away one of his championship winning cars to a sick boy who had some disease

@@mitesh1982in they took it back

@@Rahul-kz5fi after the boy died

there is a hotel in my hometown that has multiple front wings hanging from walls

Reused, could be a better term, it's reused as an energy source. But yeah that's not recycling

@@noeivanlopezfigueroa3624 Reusing the heat from trash incineration is a common thing and nothing special or super environmentally friendly, especially considering that those thousands of tires need to be produced in the first place as well.

It's also funny when they say they represent their country of birth rather than their tax haven (sorry - country of residence).

The tires are made from petroleum and must be made through chemical processes. Because of this, they can never make a used tire back into a new tire. It could maybe be recycles into something else, but it could never have the same properties as a tire. This is a big problem with all tires currently, and all plastic in general. The chemical properties just make it impossible to recycle them into the same thing, so they eventually become trash.

Impressão minha ou é a alfandega do Porto? 😅

@@tiagofigueiredo8856 é sim 😂

Who else doesn't

There are more than 3 dry compounds. C1 to C5 actually. But Pirelli only bring 3 to each race.

They just pick the targeted level for the three they want and they are called soft/med/hard even though they change.

Softs at silverstone for might not be the same compound as softs at spa for example. They just label 3 out of the 5 compounds soft/medium/hard for each race

its determined by previous year's team standings