What If Draco ACTUALLY Killed Dumbledore | Harry Potter Film Theory
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Today Ben dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to find out what would have happened if Draco had ACTUALLY killed Dumbledore instead of Snape!
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@iancampbell8320 Жыл бұрын
I feel like it's almost tradition now to make the elder wand plot device completely ridiculous...I LOVE IT
@yakirchernin6015 Жыл бұрын
It is ridiculose
@CheezsterYT Жыл бұрын
Riddikulus...
@Ollie.H-2301 Жыл бұрын
It's not actually too dissimilar to the main story. Harry disarmed Draco (literally) and won his wand, which then also lead to him gaining mastery of the Elder Wand. In this story, Harry still beat the same wand, it was just a different person wielding it.
@dumflame Жыл бұрын
Plot
@jacobpage410 11 ай бұрын
@@Ollie.H-2301 I’ve always thought this was one of the thinnest plot points in all of HP
@Lightseeker2007 Жыл бұрын
Somehow, I wonder how they always make the wand ending thing MORE complicated than before
@meleardil Жыл бұрын
He shall be proud! His ending with the wand lore twist is even more complicated and dumber than the original. :D
@kallocarina8879 Жыл бұрын
Hey it's better than the harry sorted into slytherin one
@Lightseeker2007 Жыл бұрын
@@kallocarina8879 True, True
@AngelJuliet Жыл бұрын
That wand trade off was wild
@wave6553 Жыл бұрын
@@kallocarina8879 Yeah, that one was rough
@NickWuebker Жыл бұрын
Brothers, I have a What If scenario for you that could make for a very interesting video. What if Fudge believed Harry at the end of the Goblet of Fire? How much does this change the Order of the Phoenix? Does Umbridge still become Defense Against the Dark Arts Professor? Does Sirius still die at the Battle of the Ministry? There are lots of questions this what if brings up and I'd be interested to hear your opinions and theories on this matter.
@alannahlally6659 Жыл бұрын
Yes that would be great!
@kj_drawing4768 Жыл бұрын
YES! This idea sounds awesome.
@mgjmiller1995 Жыл бұрын
Fudge in HPGoF says (basically): "what kind of loony bin are you operating here?" Dumbledore: "since this is the book and not the movie where Snape poured all the Veritaserum down Barty Crouch Jr's throat...I'll drink 4 drops, Harry will drink 4 drops, and Lucius Malfoy will drink 4 drops. Lucius' story will corroborate Harry's, and show what Harry recounted to me is true." Whole lotta BS avoided
@rozenaa. Жыл бұрын
omg i love this, they need to see this!
@PerovNigma Жыл бұрын
I recommend the oneshot fanfic _The Greatest Minister of Magic_ by BajaB.
@SgtSupaman Жыл бұрын
I don't believe for one second that Voldemort would consider Draco's service as reason for not killing him to take control of the elder wand. He didn't think about all the things Snape had done for him. Someone else's service is meaningless to Voldemort if they stand in the way of him gaining power.
@thelestrangelair Жыл бұрын
Best point! Rodolphus Lestrange
@cobra7103 Жыл бұрын
but the fact that harry's wand was broken meant that draco wasnt standing in the way of him gaining power so there wouldnt be any need for voldemort to kill draco.
@SgtSupaman Жыл бұрын
@@cobra7103 , the elder wand is power, regardless of the status of Harry's wand.
@cobra7103 Жыл бұрын
@@SgtSupaman 2 things. First how on earth did u reply so fast and second idk if its cuz i havent read the books for like 2 yrs but i dont think voldy would care for more power cuz he's just afraid of death and harry's the only danger to his immortality so i dont think he would care for more power cuz in his eyes he's already defeated harry and ended the last danger to his immortality cuz he's already the strongest wizard in the world and no one would be able to stop him if harry's ded.
@SgtSupaman Жыл бұрын
@@cobra7103 , but the elder wand still exists, so, it being the most powerful wand, the possibility is still there for someone (maybe even Draco) to be more powerful than Voldemort. I just can't see him letting that go.
@delikatessbruhe9843 Жыл бұрын
I actually prefer a different scenario. I believe Draco killing Dumbledore could be the very thing that sets up Draco's redemption arc. Hear me out, Draco's allegiance is very unstable when he faces Dumbledore but he's pushed JUST over the edge to actually cast the killing curse. But he ends up being so shaken by his own actions that he begins to doubt his cause in ernest. Snape, of course, is still on his side and would notice and nourish these doubts. I'm not going to go in to all the details of how it might play out but I can see this story leading up to Draco feeling true remorse for what he's done and thereby fixing is torn soul.
@sybersisters3688 8 ай бұрын
I Love It! I think that ending would be amazing! Draco deserves a redemption arc.
@ibtiago18 8 ай бұрын
Imagine if at any point, Snape reavealed to Drako that Dumbledore was dying anyway and that he arraged his death in a way to protect him.
@PINKEDYPINK 7 ай бұрын
I thought this was the direction that they were going to go. Ben was talking about how Draco needed a redemption arc, said that because Draco didn't kill Dumbledore that he was on shaky ground. Draco was just sort of stuck in the middle, not evil or good. If he had killed Dumbledore, the guilt might have pushed him towards fighting for good. The pendulumn swings.
@malcolm32 Жыл бұрын
I love that Ben's "hey brother" is just steadily getting longer. Eventually it'll be the whole video 😂
@yamahakid450f Жыл бұрын
*Face gets more and more red before finally passing out from lack of oxygen to his brain.*
@sethkeown5965 Жыл бұрын
That shoimd be the april fools video
@thatonenerd6650 Жыл бұрын
Whhhattt? Nooooo nooo waayyy
@landlighterfirestar5550 Жыл бұрын
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey Bruthurrrrr!
@thisbigsmallworld Жыл бұрын
Petition to get this infinite Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..... video made?
@alexsanderivan6511 Жыл бұрын
This was epic, I loved full-evil Draco. And it's a funny contrast to his more heroic take in your "What if Harry went into Slytherin" series
@keithg460 Жыл бұрын
Draco becoming full evil here almost feels like Kylo Ren becoming full evil for most of episode 9. Defeats the Big Bad and waits months before switching sides, but up until then, it is almost disappointing how the Big Bad was defeated by basically a kid. You're right, this new Draco is such a contrast to the "What if Harry went into Slytherin" series. That one is by far my favorite.
@scarypumpkin5716 Жыл бұрын
It is definitely a contrast. I wonder if it isn't too far of a stretch though. Taking Draco's character into consideration, do you think he would want to become the leader of the Death Eaters like that (and why would he even still want to kill Harry actually)?
@darthmeticulous6901 Жыл бұрын
@@keithg460 Draco: I killed Dumbledore, I’ll kill you too! Voldemort: My boy, I made it so! I have been behind every influence you have ever heard, inside your head.
@crazysasha1374 Жыл бұрын
Hearing him describe the scene where Malfoy interrogates Harry alone after they got caught by the Snatchers and imagining one with a huge scar across his face and the other with a missing ear, it felt to me like this would be the dark timeline, whith evil Draco being another Dark Arts threat after Voldy'demise. It really sounds so cool, I'd love to see expanded work on this timeline!
@lorihopkins6328 Жыл бұрын
Another version of this What if, is if Draco still said the spell but his heart wasn’t in it. Similar to when Harry tried the cruciatus curse on Bellatrix at end of OotP, it only knocked her off her feet. It’s plausible that Draco’s spell would knock Dumbledore off the tower (to his death) but would Draco’s soul remain in tact that way? Would he somehow know (and feel guilt) that he killed Dumbledore but not the way Voldemort intended???
@calliew311 Жыл бұрын
This is a great question!
@iamalbertwesker2 Жыл бұрын
As Barty said, nosebleed at most
@DarthAxolotl Жыл бұрын
The difference would be that Harry meant crucio but his righteous anger wasn't enough to sustain the spell. Draco in this case, as Barry crouch said, would give him at worst a nose bleed
@rebbeccahoneycutt7941 Жыл бұрын
I like this idea even more!!
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
I think that his soul would stay intact, he'd feel guilty, and he wouldn't know the difference
@ronakdave4466 Жыл бұрын
I have more scenarios: 1. What if Harry did learn occlumency from Snape? 2. What if Kreature didn't betray Sirius?
@iphito7539 6 ай бұрын
someone really wants Sirius to live, huh
@ixodesricinus3001 Жыл бұрын
For me that deleted scene from the last movie in which draco throws his wand to harry in front of voldemort will always be canon. Thats how his character was ment to develop.
@hopelesslag Жыл бұрын
@@nightfury95 and Draco was using his mom's wand after that. So technically he threw her wand
@michaeledmunds7056 Жыл бұрын
@@nightfury95Dual wield wands? No? Okay then...
@clabood Жыл бұрын
To those saying he would already have Draco's wand. He was "dead"at this point. So they would have taken Harry's wand. Having just re-watched the deleted scene in question. I 100% agree that this should of stayed in. It is the perfect redemption scene.
@sarae2374 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!! This is the redemption arc draco deserved. I'm with you 💯 it was always be canon to me
@jeffgammons431 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree!!!
@thirteenthandy Жыл бұрын
That got very twisty at the very end, and I'm not sure what I think about the final events, but there's one thing I think would happen differently: Even if the protection of the twin cores was broken, Voldemort still believed Draco was the master of the Elder Wand. There's no way he would have let Draco live, and Draco would have met his end in Snape's place.
@K_ImNoDr Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was expecting the theory to explore if Narcissa would have still checked if Harry was dead and covered for him if she already knew Draco was dead
@chodeoriki4113 3 ай бұрын
Okay I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought the same… I was like whaaaaaat??😂
@GrahamAC Жыл бұрын
I love these "what if..?" episodes, they always get me so invested!
@gaigelarry Жыл бұрын
same
@CL0UDY_TWILIGHT Жыл бұрын
Yes! Same man!
@PanBookworm Жыл бұрын
I have another “What If…” scenario. What if Sirius took Harry from the Potters’ house after Lily and James were killed instead of Hagrid? What if Sirius raised Harry? Would Sirius still die at the Battle of the Department of Mysteries? How much would this change Harry’s life?
@amberrivers2560 Жыл бұрын
Oooh my goodness yes!
@rickiclark4356 Жыл бұрын
yes! I would imagine he wouldn't be there to "kill" Peter if he had to stay with Harry.
@PanBookworm Жыл бұрын
@@rickiclark4356 Exactly! I also wonder if he (Sirius) would still die??
@Of_Mail Жыл бұрын
Heeeeeyyyy Brooooottthhhhheeeerrr
@chunkygamer3407 Жыл бұрын
They should do what If Barty crouch junior died in Azkaban
@daltonleman788 Жыл бұрын
Hey brother
@hannahmccarthy6027 Жыл бұрын
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
@baconbro304 Жыл бұрын
There's an endless road to re discover. Oh right you weren't singing
@aglet1321 Жыл бұрын
Okay but the wand allegiance part was even more confusing that in the original storyline 😆
@ForeverDegenerate Жыл бұрын
Yeah... that's one of two parts I disagree with. I don't think merely defeating the wand in a duel forces all wands owned by that wand's True Owner to magically switch allegiances. As I understand it (and I could be wrong), you have to defeat the Owner, not the Wand, for wand allegiance to switch. But before even getting to that, there was one other thing that Ben overlooked when writing this: Voldemort had dueled Dumbledore two years prior in the Ministry of Magic. Voldemort saw Dumbledore's Wand aka The Elder Wand. He would known what The Elder Wand looked like. So unless Draco somehow made his wand look like The Elder Wand, there's no way Voldemort would have mistook Draco's Wand for The Elder Wand.
@asthmaticbee Жыл бұрын
I laughed out loud when Voldy called Draco the boy who lived because he served him thrice, I'm in stitches.
@balbert24 Жыл бұрын
I like that you finished this off with "The Flaw in the plan" The single greatest chapter in the Potter book series
@omiyascott6070 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a "what if Draco was in Griffindoor" series, like what you did to Harry. I feel like that would've changed the trajectory of the books. Like he might’ve even warned Harry about Voldemort returning in book 4, since Lucius would've made comments about the dark mark getting stronger like what karkaroff said to Snape. And if he was warned, he might’ve left the graveyard before Wormtail came out so Cedric would be alive Edit: I also think Draco hesitating on the astronomy tower and trying so half-heartedly to kill Dumbledore is a giveaway to him not being a true slytherin. If he was, he would've taken the glory of killing Dumbledoor and becoming such a high-ranking Death Eater
@themiddleones11 Жыл бұрын
Draco 100% is a true slytherin. Killing Dumbledore is not his ambition, it was chosen for him. He has his own ambitions and the cunning to achieve them, if that's not 100% slytherin, idk what is. Ps. Glory isn't an official slytherin trait, if anything it's a gryffindor one
@carla05cw Жыл бұрын
These what ifs have to be plausible, and Draco was sorted so fast that I don't think there was ever a truer Slytherin than him. Not that that's a bad thing, I love Draco for being a Slytherin.
@strawberrymilk_nya Жыл бұрын
I think it would be fun.
@alannahlally6659 Жыл бұрын
It might be unrealistic but it would totally be a great watch!
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
Okay you seem too greatly Miss understand how Slytherin works That's said it would be fun to explore even if it doesn't make much sense
@samthetheorist Жыл бұрын
Overall, I really enjoyed the theory, especially the Elder wand bit. However, I think Draco should have arranged for Voldemort to die BEFORE the battle of Hogwarts or at least halfway through. Forbidden Forrest perhaps? That way you have Draco fully set up as a terrible but worthy successor to him well before his own defeat as well as leaving the intrigue of the wand for a while.
@samthetheorist Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I didn't mean for this to pop up two or three times. I didn't realize editing did that.
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
How though
@samthetheorist Жыл бұрын
@@lahlybird895 You 'd need to rework a little before-hand so Draco could slip Harry his original wand just before that scene instead of just after it. As for how the scene itself would go down, (spoilers for another video) SuperCarlinBrothers' "What if Sirius told Harry How to Use the Mirror" is actually a great example.
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
@@samthetheorist interesting
@sparkasaurusdonna Жыл бұрын
Okay, I imagine that Bellatrix could not stand someone else being Voldy's right hand death eater and would continually work to sabotage Draco behind the scenes every chance she got. I don't believe that things would be smooth sailing for Draco despite his killing Dumbledore. Yes, Voldersnort would give him more responsibility and Draco might enjoy the cruelty more, but seeing in Deathly Hallows how the different Death eaters jockey for Voldman's approval all the time, and with Draco being young, I think that Snape and Bellatrix and maybe even Yaxley could outsmart him.
@carla05cw Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Draco is one of the most intelligent characters after Hermione, it's canon that he came second in their year and that fixing the vanishing cabinet was seen as impossible by Dumbledore, one of the other most intelligent characters in the series. Plus, Bellatrix wouldn't sabotage her own Nephew. She loves her family more than she loves Voldemort, as seen when she went behind Voldemort's back to help him. Plus, if you consider the cursed child canon, Bellatrix has a place beside Voldemort no one else has.
@Orurandokun Жыл бұрын
When will be happening the next chapter for "what if Petunia was a witch?"
@skycr7059 Жыл бұрын
What if Lupin joined the Golden trio in their Horcrux hunt?
@bethbayless5652 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@privatecaboose256 Жыл бұрын
I love these so much! Do you think we will get part 2 of the video where Snape marries Petunia? I can't wait to see how that particular what-if story ends. Thank you guys so much for continuing to make these. They are always awesome!
@moonstonepearl21 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. There's so much story left to tell with that one.
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
The cliffhanger is driving me insane
@willropa4226 Жыл бұрын
Can the next hypothetical be what would happen if both Draco and Snape got cold feet during the final moments of The Half-Blood Prince? We've explored if Snape kills Dumbledore, if Dumbledore never put on the Gaunt Ring and survives that night, and if Draco got his act together and killed Dumbledore, last possible scenario is if the Gaunt Ring's curse kills Dumbledore.
@ForeverDegenerate Жыл бұрын
I don't think that would ever happen. I think, no matter what, Dumbledore dies that night in the tower. If Draco and Snape don't kill him, Bellatrix will. Voldemort's Orders were very clear: Kill Dumbledore. And Bellatrix never defies a direct order from The Dark Lord. But even then, I don't think it would get that far. Remember, Snape made an Unbreakable Vow to "help Draco." If Snape refuses to kill Dumbledore, the Unbreakable Vow would immediately kill HIM. And knowing that Dumbledore is going to die anyway, Snape would kill Dumbledore to ensure his own survival because he's more valuable to The Order of The Phoenix and Harry alive than dead. The narrative is set up in a way that if Draco doesn't kill Dumbledore, Snape has to.
@olirothers Жыл бұрын
Please do a "What if Lucius Malfoy escaped with the prophecy?" and a "What if Dobby never went to Privet drive?" and a "What if Cedric disarmed Wormtail?"
@HanaTheRussell Жыл бұрын
That’s a super super super cool ending sequence. Very tricky but y’all made that work! I do feel that Voldemort sparing Draco is a bit of a stretch. I can’t imagine him doing that for real. Surely he would gladly take the info, thank him then kill him anyway just for double protection. Twin core gone and elder wand in possession. I can’t see why he would let the elder wand master live. BUT. As a piece of fan fiction and fun, I absolutely love it. And every other bit was air tight. Super creative. I love it. Especially the ending.
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a little weird, what's a little more likely is that he just got really excited at the shattered wand and assumed his victory was certain and he could take care of Draco later Killing Harry have been his goal for nearly 2 decades, and now he genuinely thinks he can do it
@franblemer7262 Жыл бұрын
Nope. Sorry, Voldemort would never spare Draco's life just because of "gratitude" and risk not being the master of the elder wand. That being said, I LOVE the "what if" scenarios!! "What if Harry went into Slytherin" series is now my canon! ❤
@valydendor4472 Жыл бұрын
I felt the same way and then I remembered that he gave Lily the chance to escape with her life at request of Snape. So contrived? A little. But not completely out of left field.
@audrey2181 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, he would have spared draco's life because he know he would nees all the soldiers he had in his hand for the upcoming battle. Especially since Draco has been very enthousiastic about his deatheater duty
@arcrosis Жыл бұрын
@@valydendor4472 Lily didn't HAVE to die for him to kill Harry, Snape HAD to die for him to become master(or so he thought) so same would go for Draco, Voldemort would absolutely try to kill Draco for it. My issue is that Voldemort should've recognised Draco's wand and it's lack of power. First thing he did when he got the elder wand was shoot lightning into the sky (I guess he was testing it out), Draco's wand wouldn't be any more powerful than the borrowed wand Voldemort was using beforehand
@Ranger1812 Жыл бұрын
Voldemort did spare people's lives as a reward. It shows how he viewed death as the greatest threat and downfall and how he considered giving people the most basic thing, their life, as some great reward that he has the right to bestow. I hate their What If?s. They change how people think and act and how magic works, and force things to happen simply because they happened in the story proper, like here with Harry's losing an ear.
@yaboyJJJJJ Жыл бұрын
@@valydendor4472 was lily the owner of the elder wand?
@arinerm1331 Жыл бұрын
This may be SCB's **BEST** what-if video, but I have spotted a flaw in THEIR plan. Draco's soul would not have been divided forever. He would have accidentally mended it the only way it could be mended, and this would have happened quite quickly after his murder of Dumbledore. Draco Malfoy would have regretted murdering his headmaster; he would have felt **REMORSE.**
@thunderhunter4391 Жыл бұрын
Why are these What Ifs so much better than the original
@bethbayless5652 Жыл бұрын
Cause the brothers are a bit more creative.
@kylecollins3755 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Way to bring back alternate Harry Potter scenarios. You have nourished my soul.
@smkfet Жыл бұрын
18:55 This accurate rendition of 16,900 of Deathly Hollow's 17,000 pages makes me want to hear you guys do a summary of the books as they actually happened
@missynnifer Жыл бұрын
I used to get annoyed with the lack of arc that Draco got, but you explaining it made me realise he is really a true Slytherin, I think it was more about self preservation and probably smarter to just go along with things. If him and his family actively resisted Voldemort they would’ve definitely been killed and Narcissa wouldn’t be in the position to lie to Voldy.
@trombaritone86 Жыл бұрын
I think that makes a lot of sense, but I have always hated that he went into the room of requirement after Harry and co. I feel like it undermines everything up through that point, and he wasn't exactly being forced to do that at that point.
@UltimateKyuubiFox Жыл бұрын
But the twin cores are the reason Harry’s wand moves involuntarily to counter Voldemort’s spell. Why would it do that against Draco’s wand?
@bethbayless5652 Жыл бұрын
Spite😂
@danielgoldring2571 Жыл бұрын
This is because it is meant to have taken some of Voldemort into Harry's wand at GoF so now the twin cores are kind of in effect always as long as it is the Holly wand and Voldemort, the battle of the seven potters Voldemort has a different wand as well.
@UltimateKyuubiFox Жыл бұрын
@@danielgoldring2571 Thanks.
@lonelyprince0 Жыл бұрын
would Remus be dead though? Snape's spell missed the death eater either way so without his interference George would have done whatever it is that we assume distracted the Death Eater to save Remus Also, I'd imagine even if Draco shows old no nose that Harry's wand is broken, Voldemort still kills him on the spot because he wants the full power of the elder wand
@antares8476 Жыл бұрын
Me: trying to sleep Yt: SuperCarlinBrothers uploaded a videon with Harry Potter theme Me:👁👁
@DexOnF1re Жыл бұрын
I am not convinced that Draco would kill Dumbledore. He would probably do Avada Kedavra but Dumbledore wouldn't die since Draco doesn't truly want to kill Dumbledore.
@nkeller8387 Жыл бұрын
I loved how evil you made Malfoy in this. And the ending is so good. A applaud your creativity and truly enjoy your fanfics.
@zenithinia Жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or do these hypothetical “what if” scenarios sound better than the actual story we got?
@Luddynetwork Жыл бұрын
It’s you
@fightingmedialounge519 Жыл бұрын
Some of the viewers feel the same Zen.
@yourstoneruncle Жыл бұрын
I have a suggestion for your what-ifs series "what is Voldemort went to live with Tom riddle SR instead of wool's orphanage"
@alyssondyer2of3 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some "what if's" about other stuff...like..."what if...Zuko found Aang in that glacier?"
@lucypreece7581 Жыл бұрын
I always love scenarios that explore Draco in depth a little more. He was always one of my fave characters. A lot of layers to him. A lot to explore.
@gavelston3943 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel as a whole (I’m particularly partial to any Harry Potter related video because… well, just because, BUT!) THESE types of videos, the truly deep dives in to “what if” scenarios have to be my all time favorites. LOVE these types of videos!
@XIN3OHd Жыл бұрын
The Wands conclusion fits logically but caught me totally off guard well done.
@Buzterer Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, that's a good point. Everyone just assumed Dombuldore stopped using his own wand for the Elderwand after 1945. Until harry fixes his wand, no one really knows if that one is special at all
@danieljay6196 Жыл бұрын
Need a “what if Snape’s loyalty was with Voldemort” video. Would Voldemort win? Would Dumbledore know? If so how early?
@tamiwatchesstuff Жыл бұрын
Good idea. I want a What If? Video where Dumbledore is the actual Dark Lord.
@howtogoogle8031 11 ай бұрын
@@tamiwatchesstuff see i does amek sense dumebledore and glelrt grindlewald what if they brainwashed sybil trllwaney into believeing that v;oldermort was the trueevil one eha tif dumebledore brainwashed tohe dursleys agaisnt haryr so that hary weaoudl be weakeminded come to dumebdlrpoe for advice
@EMMCNEELY 6 ай бұрын
the elder wand is such a funny object in theory. the way the wand’s ownership is such an important yet convoluted concept rears it’s head again and again. i like that in every one of these theories, the wand is equally if not more ridiculous as a plot device to get Harry to win the battle with Voldemort.
@malicia7321 Жыл бұрын
Love the super long uploads with interesting topics that you guys put all this thought into. I really appreciate all your hard work ❤I also like how this is sort of in direct contrast to your video talking about how Draco deserves to be redeemed bc in this theory he obviously goes on the exact opposite path of being redeemed and it shows how either way is equally possible based on a few decisions being different and how it changes so much of the story. Cool stuff. Looking forward to your next video. 😇🤗
@supervegito2277 Жыл бұрын
15:29 losses in war arent inherently bad, and this is a what if, so playing around with things is kinda the point. But im not sure i agree. Snape missed, so whatever that Death Eater was aiming at Lupin didnt hit in the first place, unless Snape merely casting a spell near said death eater is what caused them to miss Lupin (or for that matter made Lupin more aware, and thus prepared to dodge/counter) Also, this could, and imo should, allow Tonks to survive the final battle.
@sandrowick5685 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think that by having Remus predeceased, at least Tonks survives the Battle of Hogwarts, since she presumably stays safe with little Remus? As terrible as Remus' early death is in this "What if"-scenario, it's reassuring that at least his son can grow up with his mother, who by then will hopefully (for and thanks to her son) have overcome the depression caused by the loss of her husband.
@theravenslibrarian6655 Жыл бұрын
Small change idea: since you didn't have Ron busy during the Malfoy Manor scene, you could change it so it's Peter not killing or hurting him that leads to the Voldermort hand curse killing him in this version.
@user-nr9sg9xo3q 8 ай бұрын
This is one of the better "What If" Draco theories I've heard. I especially like you highlighting his superiority complex when it comes to his new status among Voldys ranks.
@LMeowliet Жыл бұрын
These What Ifs are basically fanfics, and I'm here for it 🤭❤
@magic8ball1982 Жыл бұрын
Voldemort would not have spared Draco's life. He already knew of Harry's destroyed wand and still killed Snape
@KristinSLuce Жыл бұрын
Yes, because of "Priori Incantatem." Also, Voldemort doesn't show mercy, ever. He further wouldn't have let anything stand in the way of fully possessing the Elder Wand.
@karlhnedkovsky5214 Жыл бұрын
Wow, these stories are so well crafted! Such attention to detail! 😎👌
@hufflepom Жыл бұрын
George loosing an ear will always be poetic. He is no longer WHOLE with a HOLE in his head and after the death of Fred he is no longer symbolically WHOLE. George must always be HOLY.
@jiffydinger3507 Жыл бұрын
Manacled explores this exact question and it’s perfect and devastating. Yes, it’s fan fiction, but it is truly mind-blowingly good!
@TheRealCardoso Жыл бұрын
You should do what if bellatrix’s dagger hit Harry instead of dobby. Was thinking about this the other day when I was reading deathly hallows
@paulrankin6032 Жыл бұрын
These what ifs are so fun to watch! Keep it up brothers
@Jan_Koopman Жыл бұрын
I only just now realized why he's called Remus Lupin. I already knew Lupin
@velho6298 Жыл бұрын
That was really crazy conclusion, great work! Amazing stuff!
@austream1559 Жыл бұрын
i dont think draco couldve used avada kedavra since you have to have conviction to use the curses and i dont think draco has enough anger to kill dumbledore
@KristinSLuce Жыл бұрын
I agree. Draco would have had fear, but not anger. He actually likes and respects Dumbledore as well.
@samthetheorist Жыл бұрын
It sounded like his motivator was to prove himself, even if Dumbledore got in the way. Seeing how ruthless he becomes in this version, I say it shakes out.
@howtogoogle8031 Жыл бұрын
Yet Peter pettigrew hesitantlyhalfheartedelyout of fear nervousnesskilledcedricdiggorywithremorse
@SgtSupaman Жыл бұрын
@@samthetheorist , but they based how he becomes on the premise that he kills Dumbledore, so, if he doesn't have enough intent to kill him in the first place, he wouldn't have become this "ruthless" version.
@barba5209 Жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I’ve been waiting for! THIS is what we want! Harry Potter What if’s! Give us more!
@ashleighjames2022 Жыл бұрын
I seriously love these ‘what if’ series!
@uriahakabrowndog3406 Жыл бұрын
I love this theory. Excellent work SuperCarlinBrothers, keep it up!
@lucifer68661 Жыл бұрын
The Ending confused me, I don't understand how Harry defeated Draco ??? Is it because Harry defeated Draco's original wand ??
@imaginepageant Жыл бұрын
“I suppose that makes you… the boy who lived.” LITERAL CHILLS!
@khrystynaoselska8390 7 ай бұрын
That was amazing! Thanks)
@rodan9773 Жыл бұрын
This should be fun. How about. WHAT IF RANROK WAS IN THE HARRY POTTER MOVIE SERIES ?. Respect and keep up the epic work.
@DealwithitHand Жыл бұрын
They might be scared because of controversies. EVEN THOUGH the majority of people have no problem with it because they know better. It's like that viral video about cultural appropriation with the white guy in a sombrero. Mexicans weren't offended. Only people that weren't personally involved whatsoever were offended. They only people upset about something JKR said in the past are people that have nothing to do with it. It's all completely HYPOCRITICAL when you think about it because they shouldn't be covering Harry Potter AT ALL if they wanna be justice warriors. Regardless there is a trans working The Three Broomsticks.
@KristinSLuce Жыл бұрын
I don't get this revised ending at all. Draco would have been the master of the Elder Wand ever since killing Dumbledore. Voldy *thinking* he was using the Elder Wand (while actually using someone else's) wouldn't have changed the ownership of *either* wand (Draco's original or the Elder Wand) because Voldy never defeats Draco. So... how does Harry defeating Voldy somehow make Harry the master of the Elder Wand??
@Juggadoosh Жыл бұрын
i have been WAITING FOR SO LONG for some HP theory. love my SC brothers ❤
@MJ-98 Жыл бұрын
This went in a wild direction....I LOVE IT!!!
@thonex8787 Жыл бұрын
this theory seems almost plausable exept for one flaw. i dont think voldemort would have let draco live only because he served him 3 times. to have the power of the elderwand would mean more to him than dracos servitude.
@WaggaDaBagga Жыл бұрын
Draco Malfoy really didn't serve Voldemort 3 times. Draco was only Loyal to Slytherin and his two class mates. He did what he did because his mother and father said so to keep him alive.
@ConstantSorrow Жыл бұрын
In the original story Snape missed the Death Eater targetting Lupin and hit George. Lupin survived even though Snape missed therefore Snape didn't save Lupin, the death eater was just a bad shot and missed. There is no reason the revised story for Lupin to die, Snape wasn't there to miss the death eater and didn't hit george but that doesn't change anything between Death Eater and Lupin, the Death Eater would still probably missed the shot.
@Squirrelly7516 9 ай бұрын
This one is probably my favorite of your theories.
@borislibaque1558 10 ай бұрын
this is incredible! Love it
@WightEyes Жыл бұрын
We shall never let Harry Potter die!
@queenofbuttercream Жыл бұрын
I'm 41, and I finally just watched this whole movie franchise... So hey, there's always someone who is new to it 🤣🤣
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
Except in that last what if we're Dumbledore killed him
@Howesitgoing1 Жыл бұрын
Theory Idea: What if Voldemort went after the Longbottoms instead of the Potters? Since Neville was a possible candidate for the prophecy what if he was? Does the Golden Trio become the Golden Quad? How much does Neville's lack of courage/confidence change him being the chosen one?
@SgtSupaman Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Harry would even really be part of the group. He would be much more confident in the magical world (having grown up with his parents) and wouldn't have needed help from Ron or Hermoine to figure out what was going on. He might even turn out to be a bully, like James was as a kid.
@Howesitgoing1 Жыл бұрын
@@SgtSupaman That's very possible. I also think that instead James and Lily could be driven to insanity by Bellatrix, still leading to him living with the Dursley's. He might still meet Ron on the train, and can still become friends with Hermione through that. It'll also be interesting to see if Neville's ego could be effected with being 'The Boy Who Lived'.
@Tinyytankk Жыл бұрын
This was a great one!!
@Juho.S. Жыл бұрын
I like the old logo at the end with the upbeat 8-bit music :) Now you just need to bring back the "these socks are amazing!" :D
@Blixthand Жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with you on Snape killing Hedwig. It's already hard enough as it is aiming spells from a broom, it's a miracle he didn't hit Harry, and as I remember it, they all have stuffed owls to complete the picture, so unless Snape could see which one was the real live owl and was worried some other death eaters would be able too as well, there would be no need to target Hedwig specifically.
@Chikararyoku Жыл бұрын
that ending; amazing for another what if; what if Harry had an obscurus?
@bfdifanboi2763 Жыл бұрын
Besides Lupin’s early death, this version of the story is WAY cooler! Good job! :)
@omarflores9011 9 ай бұрын
The Death Eaters at 8:58: throwing a party for Draco like a mix of the ending of Star Wars ep IV A New Hope, and the 'We Do' scene from The Simpsons episode 'Homer The Great'
@RockyRZ Жыл бұрын
Why didn’t Hermione make Harry a prosthetic ear?!
@TheSoapontheWii360 Жыл бұрын
You guys are my favourite youtubers
@lukejohnson4975 Жыл бұрын
What if Draco had indeed accepted Dumbledore's offer of protection on that fateful night in the Hogwarts Astronomy Tower, only for Snape to appear and employ The Killing Curse upon the elderly, already dying Hogwarts Headmaster?
@ericahamel4404 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that what actually happened LOL
@lewiscooper3556 Жыл бұрын
I think I disagree with Lupins death, Snape misses in the original story but Lupin survives anyway, meaning the Death Eater still got his shot off but Lupin never dies, so I think the Death Eater misses too
@parttimesaint3165 Жыл бұрын
That last twist was brilliant!
@alannahlally6659 Жыл бұрын
Ok theory idea the weasleys are desendeds of godrick gryfondor they all have red hair like gogrick and although percy could have been in slytherin and ron could have been in hufflepuff they are all in gryfondor Sry about the spellings
@TheLavenderMushrooms26215 Жыл бұрын
This theory is sooooooo good!!!!! 😊 I love ittttt!!!
@ajwinberg Жыл бұрын
Great story. I like it. You guys are so creative. I love your "What if?" Series.
@baconbro304 Жыл бұрын
Everytime I hear D.A I think district attorney and it kinda makes it more funny imagining a lawyer guy instead of an army of wizards
@rogueraven1701 Жыл бұрын
I still want to know what happens to Kreacher after the Battle of Hogwarts. Did he stay at Hogwarts or leave with Harry? Would he have been around for Harry's kids? I know some people think Harry would have freed him, but Dobby is the only house-elf who we ever see/hear of even WANTING freedom, the rest of the house elves we see are completely against it. Apologies for the slight rant, this has been bugging me for years.
@HobbesSale Жыл бұрын
Do more Name of the Wind & Avatar the last Airbender videos!
@Beeba10 7 ай бұрын
15:24 “. . . So no, yeah, it is my fault.” Darn you, Ben. I’m in bed, supposed to be sleeping but watching this instead, and that little quip just made me unintentionally let out a single loud laugh. Also “You can’t unwrite . . . a Word document” 😂
@thegamedevcave Жыл бұрын
you guys never fail to impress me with how much more complicated and unreasonable you can make the elder wand, even compared to how insane the original logic was to begin with! with what if harry was in slytherin it kind of annoyed me but at this point i am honestly impressed and feel that it must be on purpose XD
@SAP712.SIMS4 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos on Draco, especially the 'What If Harry Was in Slythern?' I wonder what would happen if Draco was a Gryffindor?
@brandibastian4193 Жыл бұрын
Draco is not capable of being a Gryffindor cuz he's a slimy bloodist Slytherin
@howtogoogle8031 Жыл бұрын
You are saying all slytherinsarealimybastards and muvgkesandgryffindorsaregoodrememnerwitcheswererapedmurdered tortured kidnapped robbed etc the house doesn't defy you here he could go as a spy and eventually turn into a good or neutral guy or or he gets disowned raised by andromedatonksordumbledoreor nicholasfalammelor severussnape
@pablopistachio1717 Жыл бұрын
i'm curious how different the story would be if a hogwarts legacy player was the main character everyone would probably be dead bc they love using avada kedavra
@KameSonRaijin Жыл бұрын
Great work, Bros!
@jameskirk4692 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this! This is amazing story and what-if scenario! Thank you for great and interesting entertainment! Keep up the great work.
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