Men of the West no worries, I'll take whatever u got. The content is legit and I don't think many of us are prudes about perfection

brian anderson Thank you, that's good to hear. I'll just keep trying to improve for you all!

Keep doing you Boo! I'm looking forward to the long list of What ifs you have c:

Komninos Maraslidis I'd love to put on subtitles, but they would take a while to make, and unless I could get someone who speaks other languages, they would only be in English. But I'll keep thinking about how I may be able to make those, if I could I'd really like to! Thank you for the suggestion!

Men of the West concerning subtitles, let me tell you something: english, as you can see, isn't my mother tongue, however I have to say that you way of speak is completly clear!! I mean, sometimes I use the automatic captioning of youtube and works perfectly on your vids, except with the sindarin and quenya names hehehe. You're a great speaker, enunciate pretty good and for non-native speakers like me that it's appreciated! Keep it up!!

Yes😆

With second breakfast

Hmm so everyone would be drunks

That's the best world, lets create it! =)

Nay, the world will burn in the stone pipes of Pippin the Great.

"And I shall make all simp before me!" Truly the biggest threat to Middle Earth

@@lonebattledroid4474 Lots of Orcs log in and Join Galadriels 'Only Fans' to see her 'Ring'..

@@lonebattledroid4474 To love is to rule. She love the world

Wow

He would be The Stallion That Mounts The World

Lacking in fingers I think he would struggle to master the ring...................

Hahahaha!!!! Very, very good!!! I commend you!!

@@simonmorris4226 it expands to fit. Bombadil slid it on his massive finger. Clearly Sauron's hands were bigger than the Hobbits' . I assume it would be like an anklet or bracer on Shadowfax, the Horsec**k, King of the Mearas and Lord of the 4th age. Hahha.

Sidney Bluemink Thank you! I'll try my best to keep them similar in tone!

He does keep Tolkien's tone with every video he does!

For all we know Tolkien may have thought of different scenarios of how the story could have ended and 'what ifs' It's what makes deep story universes like the Lord of the Rings so good with the different scenarios that could've happened

Galadriel: _" Hahaha! And all will stand in awe at my beauty & despair!! "_ Simpelion: _" No my Queen, actually the world can't see you cause of all that damn tree's. "_ Galadriel: _" ... ... ... f°°k!! "_

The ring doesn't create allies. It creates masters.

@@TheSwiftCreek2 No, It creates people who think they are Masters, because that is an inherent characteristic of It's Maker.

How would smaug wear the ring? His fingers are too big.

@@clzm90 the ring can grow or shrink to any size, that is how it betrayed Isuldur, it grew to be too big for his finger and fell off allowing the orcs to see and kill him. However he wouldn't wear it he would simply consume it, as it is said as dragons consumed more and more magical items the larger and more powerful they became, a smaug that consumed the ring would have no reason to ally himself with sauron and would ultimately be saurons greatest enemy and greatest fear

wait- if that happened then ... who would raise Frodo?? Oh no- thats an AU where everyone DIES

Yeah respect this, only point I'd bring up is the separation of the elven rings from sauron's, possibly her control over the three was capable of denying the spirit of sauron, but still channeling its power. without the three, yeah she's fucked, but could see her maybe pulling through if she had them. maybe.

I see her suffering the same fate as Ar-Pharazon. Sauron has literally an eternity to corrupt her. (since he's not dead) It's only a matter of time before she is convinced to wage war on the Valar. Could the Valar shut off the undying lands from her and Cirdan? She might be convinced to go into the west for other reasons, only to carry the ring with her and Sauron as well, where he could unchain Melkor before anyone noticed his presence.

Djanck000 it's honestly the fact she's A: firstborn of illivitar B: has the 3 elven rings of power and C: has the one ring and Gandolf at her side. In this case the deck is stacked heveily in her favor

1. Galadriel predicted that she would replace sauron, not be controlled by him but somehow be her own evilness, the world loving her somehow but still despairing (maybe due to her being evil?) 2. Isn't the way it goes is that Sauron can be defeated with the ring but at the cost of the victor being just as evil? This would more imply that the ring is it's own being and while it mainly serves Sauron, that it's ultimately selfish and evil of itself, in which case it could probably accept a new master/ bond with someone else. After all, Sauron poured his evil into the ring not his own personality, so it probably developed it's sentience by itself.

But the ring is not it's own and it is said, more than once, that it serves only one master. Sauron poured part himself into the ring and that is why the ring is sentient. This sentience is part of Sauron's sentience and that is why he is incomplete and weaker without the ring. Galadriel's predictions could ultimately be the ring toying with and tempting her, even if she was able to resist. The ring tried to convince her that she would be a queen because that is what it does. It plays with your desires, like it convinced Boromir that he could save Gondor by using the Ring as a weapon.

Yes!!! 😁😁😂😂🤣🤣🤣

I heard gollums voice :)

ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND THIS BEAR!

@@fraktaalimainen7202 lol "and this bear" 😂😂😂

Jon Baggins: "you are my queen"

Yes but the on ring was made by Sauron the servent of one of the valar morgoth so it might happen

@@Dragon-eu8cb You make a very good point. But even Morgoth was unable to create life, only to corrupt other creatures into different forms. Elves into orcs, for instance. I believe this is detailed in the Silmarillion.

Very good point, that is absolutely possible. Thanks for watching!

Nick Graham The Ring doesn't contain Sauron's spirit, it contains his power. Souls cannot be divided in Tolkien's mythos, his spirit is 100% with him, within the body he's formed. The Ring's ability to abandon people is due to Sauron's own will forever acting on the Ring for its return, it doesn't have a will of it's own or any kind of sentience. If Galadriel were to truly wrest mastership of the Ring from Sauron it would ruin Sauron just as much as destroying it would do, and he wouldn't be able to return. Tolkien outlines as such had Gandalf done so: "Confrontation of Sauron alone, unaided, self to self was not contemplated. One can imagine the scene in which Gandalf, say, was placed in such a position. It would be a delicate balance. On one side the true allegiance of the Ring to Sauron; on the other superior strength because Sauron was not actually in possession, and perhaps also because he was weakened by long corruption and expenditure of will in dominating inferiors. If Gandalf proved the victor, the result would have been for Sauron the same as the destruction of the Ring; for him it would have been destroyed, taken from him for ever. But the Ring and all its works would have endured. It would have been the master in the end." Letter #246

It's possible, but this isn't just a Dunedain like Isildur or a guy like Smeagol here, I get the feeling that through sheer will and her long, long years and power she would hold control at least for awhile...eventually everything would go wrong of course, but I think she (and Gandalf for that matter) would at least hold it together and bend the ring to their will for the first few decades or even century. I'm not saying it wouldn't corrupt them, it undoubtedly would, but I think it would likely be a real subtle game the ring would play. Injecting small doubts and questions, small thoughts of control and order and those things that Saruman and Sauron had wanted at first for good, the idea of shaping things for the betterment of all, ultimately all those victories would turn to ash in their mouths but I think it would be one of those things where they felt they were doing good and maybe in a sense WOULD be doing good until, 50 years down the road they turned and looked back and realize they'd been slowly eaten from the inside piecemeal without ever really noticing it and by that point it would be too late. Sort of a similar idea to how the first kinslaying happened, it wasn't this sudden thing that happened and all of a sudden the Kinslaying at Alqualonde just happened, it was good people, or rather elves, all looking to do right by their people and then Morgoth planting this little seed that he fed for decades or centuries that gradually led to Feanor and his kin reaching the point where they could do such things, but by then they'd gotten to the point where an evil act SEEMED the "good" thing or "right" thing to do I can't remember the actual letter, but I remember reading a letter Tolkien wrote someone asking about Gandalf getting the ring and him saying he would become ultimately worse than Sauron because he'd make evil seem good and good seem evil, he wouldn't be aiming to hurt people but he'd work to control them in the interest of keeping them safe, ensuring they made the right decisions and so forth and it would be sort of like getting from the top to the bottom of a staircase, you don't jump from the top step all the way down, you move inch by inch until finally you've reached the bottom without even really thinking about the "how" of it, but when you're there you've still hit the bottom...as would they, just bottom of a different sort, and by then it would be too late to turn around.

ZarathustrasCrown Its from Letter #246, the very next paragraph from the quote I posted "Gandalf as Ring-Lord would have been far worse than Sauron. He would have remained 'righteous', but self-righteous. He would have continued to rule and order things for 'good', and the benefit of his subjects according to his wisdom (which was and would have remained great). [The draft ends here. In the margin Tolkien wrote: 'Thus while Sauron multiplied [illegible word] evil, he left "good" clearly distinguishable from it. Gandalf would have made good detestable and seem evil']."

AlphaZaku where does it state that spuls cannot be fragmented or split? Because the one ring is basically like Sauron's version of horocrux where so long as the ring survives he will endure. While sure if galadriel was to win control over the ring from Sauron it would spell the end of him outright but in doing so galadriel for one have be as powerful as Sauron which she is no where near so, and two assuming she did she would be so curropted by the ring that she literally would be pretty much Sauron 2.0. I mean Sauron is pretty much a continuation of Melkor's cruelty, hatred, and will to dominate all life. So Galadriel would be a continuation of that.

aaahha same actor

me like

hella

@@1.4142 Hel

Does that mean Thor's part of the lord of the rings?

Lol

I don't get the joke and it's pissing me off

Michael Cordova yea I love this theory but don't trust her

As the trees live thrive how could we say no??? *** humans could not adorn such innocence! God protect the woods of the earth and my soul who prays for their recovery while our earth lasts!!!!!!*

Oh no man the foundations are gone, sorry

HAIL GALADREIL

What if Gondor had a brigade of Tiger tanks?

What if they had second breakfast? What if they had elevensies?

She was?

@@emperorkarl1933 nope

They might have come together and that would be their end.

Yes... but what an end it would be. to stand aginst the unbeatable knowing you cannot win, yet doing it anyway because it is simply the right thing to do. that is a hill any man or dwarf would gladly die on.

"BITCH that's my ring!"

The ring had part of his essence, so I in a way HE was the ring.

There are people in the books with great willpower than Sauron. Galadriel, Tom Bombadil, The Valar, the Lords of the Air, Milian to name a few...all more powerful than Sauron.

Not true, Galadriel was never more powerful than Sauron, nor Tom Bombadil, Tom stated he's not afraid of Sauron, he never stated to be more powerful.

Even without the one ring, Sauron is still superior to Galadriel.

There's actually a pen and paper RPG that is basically that idea, just with names and contexts different (largely, I think, so that there was no copyright issues because you can see a lot of LOTR in the setting). Don't know if it's still in print, was called "Midnight", you're basically one of a few holdout peoples in this world basically under the fascist, tyrannical thumb of the dark lord, the forces of good and evil faced off and evil won cold a hundred years earlier en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_(role-playing_game) It's, of course, it's own history and all, but there's basically equivalents to everything in LOTR, beings that are comparable to the Nazgul are ruling over most of the world, the dark church worshipping the equivalent to Morgoth is the only religion legally allowed, people are sacrificed to this dark god every day, magic is outlawed except in the priests devoted to this Morgoth-like being and so on. Very cool game if you like RPG's, it's kind of unique because there really isn't any "winning", you're just this little candle of light in a vast sea of darkness fighting to keep from being snuffed out and surviving for one more day and even basic enemies like Orcs are really tough opponents. Has this real tragic feel to it because you're in a losing situation and no matter how well you do you know you're ultimately going to fail or be so corrupted by Izrador that you'll become the evil you're fighting...it would only take minor tweaking if a DM were so inclined to play it as "Middle Earth after Sauron got the ring"

The second age would come again

.... Interesting

With Sauron geting the Ring, it would be the age of the Orcs, with the Nazgul ruling over most of middle earth and a few human races in their service all under Saurons command and of course everyone who opposed him would be either dead of fleeing to the western lands - if possible.

The world is fu cked

She's not a queen, she purposely renounced a title like that. Also Elrond has a better claim for the high kingship, being descended from Fingolfin.

@@leatea167 Elrond isn't Calaquendi. Elrond isn't imbued with the power of Telperion and Laurelin. With the death of Elu Thingol, Elrond can't even call himself Sindar, he HAS to call himself Moriquendi; Dark elves who never saw the light. Galadriel, on the other hand...

@@Raz.C Good points, but wouldn't Gil-Galad also be Moriquendi? And he was the last High King of the Noldor.

@@halleck3 I don't know much about his lineage, other than that he was of the House of Finarfin. Either his parents were Calaquendi, or he was. So if he wasn't directly Calaquendi; if he never lived in the light of Telperion and Laurelin, he would have been Sindar. It's almost 100% certain that he would not have been Moriquendi.

LadyChrya Oh really? Ugh I'm done with Camtasia 9. Thank you for letting me know, I'll look for another software.

Men of the West fantasy stories should consider making elves into the villians...not the cliche "dark elves" but more like the galadrial of this video...Believing themselves to be the only ones to protect the earth...thoughts?

Steven Irizarry Like the Thalmor from Skyrim?

Except the Thalmor want to destroy the physical world because they believe it's preventing them from assuming their rightful place. Or something like that. The details are a bit muddy, but they generally seem to hate the world, especially humans.

good question!!

Leila Smith mortals have a hard time with rings of power. Even though Aragorn resembled Elendil a lot, he probably wouldn't have been able to master the one ring. Only the highest of the high elves, like Elrond, Galadrial, and Glorfindel could master the ring, and Maiar like Gandalf.

Jason Motsinger Not sure about that - remember, Aragon carries the blood of Man, Elf and Maiar I think Aragon would have been able to use the Ring, but he would fall under its influence.

that would be a good one. M.O.W.s' "what if gandalf had taken it" is pretty good too.

Michael Coulter I think Isildur where more chronologically close to Elendil,still he was unable to master the ring

Great idea! I really could see that happening!

Men of the West imagine this story...mankind has risen and built a Industrial empire and is taking the lands of the countless variety of the non humans out of the religious belief that they are the the ones who rule and govern all creation. The elves are fading but instead of leaving they gather a army of non humans of countless variety and go against the industrial might of humanity with their superior magic in order to achieve social justice. countless people from both sides are forced to choose between 2 political ideologies....thoughts?

I plan on doing something similar for a roleplaying game. The above ground has been claimed by elves and those among them which lack purity and a desire for it have created an underground barrow den, along with other oppressed faerie-folk. The above ground is so sickeningly homogenous and orderly that one would instantly lose their way if they left the barrows, driving the oppressed ever deeper under ground, joining networks with other, more ancient tunnel systems and taking solace from the cold, moist depths.

Already done. They're called the Thalmor/ Aldmeri Dominion

try to read the Witcher saga ;)

hela?

the one who played gladriel is acting as hela in the thor ragnarok movie

Gheladriel

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Thank you very much, I'm glad!

LOL.. "scuba orcs" :)

Gandalf fascist? Twisted idea of Gandalf. Course Gandalf would have twisted himself had he chosen the ring. We don't ever see it having compulsion on him. He was compeltely decided. Galadrial was loose enough in her conviction to covet the ring, but not enough to take it. She's glad she turned her back to it, because if left with the temptation long enough she would fall.

Tolkien did cover at least one of these what if's. Sauron could not be killed while the ring exists, and no one would destroy the ring. Sauron would be taken as prisoner, just as in Numenor, and eventually, his evil would take over the new ring wielder, and eventually, he would win and get his ring back.

I seem to recall gandalf remarking on ancient sea beasts and primordial powers that would eventually return the ring to sauron

@@wizzlewazzle9202 would the evil sea creatures be flanked by scuba orcs? I hope they are.

Honestly that wouldn't be all that long, the powerful in Middle Earth is one thing, but Frodo would be almost immediately grabbed once the small rag-tag band at the black gate was crushed by Sauron's massive forces and Sauron would then have the ring and all would be lost. Even if he did get "away", everyone at the gate would be dead by that point and he'd be the most hunted being in middle earth, he'd die if he was lucky, if he wasn't and stayed alive he'd just become something akin to Gollum eventually and be drawn back to the black land by some unconscious compulsion and be found that way...ultimately, no matter what he did if he'd kept it, it would end up back in Sauron's hands sooner or later

ZarathustrasCrown True, but an Ungoliant video would still be cool.

It would be, it would be a bit of a scrounging video though, there really isn't a ton to say on the subject to be honest, just the little bit in the Silmarillion...she was...something...something powerful since she managed to hurt Morgoth, but it's never clarified what exactly she is, an Ainur of some sort that chose that form maybe? Or just something like the watcher in the water that was a part of the earth, albeit a dark and evil part or what. She's sort of like Bombadil in that way, kind of an enigma that's never really clarified. She makes a deal with Morgoth, nixes the trees, calls Morgoth on his bluff when he tries to keep the Silmarils and attacks him and gets driven off. Beyond that, and that she's the progenitor of things like Shelob (with what I'd wonder, is there a male giant uber-arachnid around we don't know about?) nothing much else is said. Her home was a place of webbed darkness no one who wanted to live went to...she was eternally starving...but where she went is only guessed at, where she came from, what she is, what her motivations beyond "me eat" are and so on are total unknowns. Unless I'm forgetting bits from that long History of Middle Earth or something that mentions her as it's admittedly been a long time since I read that... I'd be curious on theories of course, but there's so little material it would be a tough episode I'd imagine to stretch out to a solid length.

Not a chance, Sauron would've seen it coming and sent the nine on fell beasts to kill Gwaihir

I think they would have helped Gondor tremendously, but it wouldn't have been enough to save them. I think they helped more in an undead form than they would've had they been living. Great question!

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Just wondered if you might have a different take on it. Thanks for the reply. :)

Mary Moody Thank you and I really appreciate the feedback, thank you for that as well. I'll try to do those less in the future!

Respectfully disagree. I think the asides are very helpful to put things into perspective and help see the broader context. Although I agree that they might be superfluous to someone with very deep knowledge of the story, to me they help me refresh my memory from time to time.

Kloddz same here ^^