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The Austrians giving up Dalmatia isn’t the most outrageous of ideas, somewhat counterintuitively. The largest part of the Austrian navy was actually on the Danube. The one thing I think Monsieur Z could have changed was the Austrians taking Wallachia and Moldavia in order to solidify their control of this River.

Do a video "What if Italy fought for Austria?" This is because of the Rome Protocols and how Mussolini actually was warry about Hitler before joining the Axis.

Mr. Z doing alternate history videos again? IMPOSSIBLE!

Congrats, You Get The Worlds Most Subtle Face Reveal Award

I dig that the face reveal came as a result of a sponsorship... Arch capitalist, Monsieur. Respect the hustle. Lol

I think Austria-Hungary becoming landlocked is a bit too much, but Italy staying in the CP almost assures the Ententes defeat. It was really close in OTL.

Good video, slight issue with Austria. At the eve of the Great War, it had the fastest growing economy of Europe, was industrialising (Moravia being an industrial heartland), and separatist sentiments were lower than they had been for decades. Even in Hungary, there were some in leadership positions realising that weakening the empire meant weakening their own foothold. The break up of the empire after the end of the war was as much the Entente, as it was the losing of fate in the Habsburg monarchy, which failed to provide security and food. But on the eve of the war, things weren't as bad as was considered in hindsight.

So the title should basically be “What If Italy Stayed Based?”

What's funny is that a Central Powers victory in WW1 may have ensured a much better 20th century than in our timeline since that would have prevented WW2 and the rise of the USSR, unless of course there was some facist uprising in France instead in this timeline.

It is good to see Italy actually doing good in wwars

the italy map you use time and again is wrong for the period as it contains austrian lands (southtyrol and trentino mainly) this is especially weird at 4:45 when you show all three maps

In the words of Squidward "Oh no, he's hot."

What if Conrad Von Hötzendorf was an actual military genius who led Austria-Hungary to victory?

You are indeed a fitting physical representation of the eternal New Yorker.

“The volatile politics of Italy acquired additional complications at the end of the fifteenth century. Charles VIII had died in the spring of 1498, Old treaties were exhumed and new theatres penned, their ultimate effect being to cut Italy to bits.” ― Kate Simon,

I think Italy could have been persuaded to join for considerably less Austrian land, and that Austria wouldn't have been willing to give up their entire coastline, although they might have been willing to give up the Italian enclaves on the Adriatic and South Tyrol. Frankly, even if they promised these lands, the Austrians would have more than likely attempted to renege in the event of victory, especially a victory that saw Italy claiming territory from France. I also think Italy would have very little chance of getting Egypt or Algeria in a peace settlement, and would be hard pressed to defend such gains, though Tunisia and Corsica are almost definite, and parts of the French border regions are quite likely as well. France likely keeps Algeria, and Egypt will probably be granted independence as a puppet of Germany or Italy, though one of them would likely seize the Suez directly, possibly in partnership with the Ottomans. Austria breaking up after a not so devastating war ending in their victory is also unlikely. Victory would bind them together for at least a while, and unity would serve as a critical counterbalance that likely would benefit the entire triple alliance, Germany included, by lending the alliance a veneer of legitimacy and community rather than appearing to be a beligerent German project. Besides, many Protestant Germans were worried about the dangers of integrating Catholic Austrians into a Germany with a very large Catholic minority, which with the Austrian additions would likely become a majority.

Peace is A lie,There is only passion,Through passion I gain Strength,Through strength,I gain power,Through power I gain Victory,Through victory my chains are broken the force shall free me.

"What if Italy..." basically resolves to me not being scared shitless of finding hundred year old war remains when I go for a climb.

There is one other major reason Italy joined the Entente: it was economically dependent on Great Britain and Russia. Most importantly, Italy was a net importer of Russian wheat and British coal. While of course such issues could be ignored, much like they did in WW2, hoping for a quick war, it would greatly impact Italy's ability to contest South France, North Africa and the Eastern Mediterranean. While German coal could fuel Italy's ship, even if less efficiently, the Triple Alliance might have to alter its plans and strike at the Ukranian breadbasket to feed Italy.

Monsiuer lookin like a gigachad especially with those aviators (I myself am a fellow enjoyer of them) no homo tho

Out of all the History KZfaqrs who’s faces have been reviled Z is definitely the best looking.

interesting but I think this only works if Lugi Cadorna dies before the war starts, otherwise you'd just end up with Battles 1 thru 12 of the Magdalena Pass instead of Isonzo! 😂😂

I like this video a lot especially on the military strategy. I think Austria gave up a bit much in this video, and I dont think Italy would gain any land west of Tunisia in Africa, and Germany took too big a chunk of France, but other than that I think it was great

Short answer from an Italian: Italy has never been a central empire, but if it had been it would have received more territories and perhaps it would not have created such a great hatred towards the allies, even if they had lost, and so perhaps World War II would never have happened

This is amazing: Great maps Good idea Funny clips Please have more videos in this style

I'm shocked how well the face matches the voice. Looking good king!

Another great video brother, keep them coming!

I definitely would not have thought Mounsieur Z is looking so fine. Love the quality video and the face reveal! Keep up the good work!!

These videos only get better keep up the good work 👍

Great video, however, I doubt that Italy would be given the Austrian land in the Medditerannian as well as Egypt. Egypt would most likely be given to the Ottomans but Italy would still have taken the French colonies. I honestly doubt that the Ottomans would win without any real results as well as Austria giving their land that easily.

That face reveal was awesome. I was not expecting that. Your voice sound really cool and your face goes great with it.

Monsieur Z, habe you heard about how the Dogger Bank Incident almost caused a war but especially France did everything to prevent said war, either having to fight britain which would put themself at risk of a british-german invasion or losing Russia as an allie to Germany? I think that would make for an amazing alt.hist. scenario

I love the editing on this video.

Wasn't expecting the DeAndre ad face reveal, but it was pretty funny to see, especially after seeing the lad irl not too long ago. Pretty cool vid tho.

I can see Italy getting south Tyrol, but anything else from Austria??? Austria would lose their vital shipyards in Istria, the Austrian navy at the time was very formidable and giving up their most important naval bases is stupid, it's much more likely they give up only south Tyrol and instead press for more french lands

What if Richard III Won the battle of Bosworth ? What if Edward V lived longer ?

Official Face Reveal, Nice. 👍

Most interesting subject for alt history in a very long time. Think the north sea would be a more active conflict zone. dont believe Austria Hungary would quit after the war or give up its coastline

Medic Screaming: VHAT IZ HAPPENING got me, Same with the medic loss quote

If Italy entered the war in the German side, and taking into account the Pact of Cartagena, probably France and UK would have pressured Spain to join them to halt Italian advance in the Alps and counter Italian navy in the Mediterranean. It'd be interesting to see how this front acts.

what if France 🇫🇷 was carved up into smaller states

And I love the old fashion desk behind you. Very cool

Finally, the great Peninsula isn’t a laughing stock. Thanks for the vid

Very glad to see an alt history video again

People should keep in mind that the pact made between Italy and Austria-Hungary before WW1 was defensive. But since the austrohungarian empire started the war, Italy was not obbligated to fight with it: and also a good portion of the italians considered Austria-Hungary the natural enemy of Italy.

Oh I just love the use of the Medic voicelines. Always a good laught.

You with those sunglasses look like the most italian man alive

It's great to see your face my friend iv been a subscriber for a long time ....MOT

Great Video

what if italy lost the second italo-ethiopian war what if rome conquered scotland and ireland what if reinhard heydrich survived what if Edward viii married grand duchess olga what if the ottomans converted to christianity

Great video.

I have a what if, what if WWI was an alliance between the UK Russia and Germany because their leaders were all related

Before I actually watch this video, I want to share my Personal opinion. Personally I believe if italy Was in the central Powers from the start of the war, france would fall within the first year. You see, the Germans almost took Paris in 1914 before they were stopped but if italy Was attacking in the South aswell it would take alot of pressure off of the German troops meaning Paris wouldve most likely fallen in 1914. Btw, italy was never in the central Powers, they were in the "triple alliance" wich was a defensive pact between Germany Austria-Hungary and italy. Now ill go and actually watch the video

How did I know Mr. Z was such a stud?

Monsieur Z please make a part two to this unique alternative scenario, it would be fascinating too see what a possible alternative ww2 with Germany & Italy vs US, Japan & England. Pleeeeeeeaaassseee

coming from a friend since before 50k subs, some more pop in the thumbnails would help exponentially. I appreciate the maps, but the algorithm doesn't. great content though, I loved this, and all other videos

Was NOT expecting a face reveal. A surprise to be sure but a welcome one!

The question of Romania in this scenario is interesting. As some commentators point out, the Danube is key. An elaboration over this would be interesting.

I need a part 2 to this. WW2 would be so interesting in this timeline.

Damn you look good man. Keep it up

5:12 I’d that neffex in the back? Love it

Can't wait for the sequel!

That is not how I expected you to look, not a bad thing though!

Monsieur Z has the sexiest face on KZfaq. Also could you do What if Hawaii was never annexed?

Awesome room man! Also, look nice today

I'll tell you what Mr. Z, I'm less upset over the face reveal than I am over you being a fucking 10. Lol Good for you sir. Awesome video as always.

My man actually looks like a Chad. Honestly wasn’t expecting that.

Good video, too!

This is how history SHOULD have played out. Italy's dispute with France over Tunisia, the reason for Italy joining the Triple Alliance to begin with, had been 'put to bed' by 1914 and there was a non-aggression pact between the two countries. Also, Britain saw that Italian politicians were open to bribery and did just that - bribed them - and it worked! It can be argued that Austria should have offered the Trentino and Trieste to Italy, but this would have been a pretty huge concession, and anyway, the Italian government also wanted the German speaking South Tyrol area, and there is no way that this would have been given up by Austria. Had the war broken out 12-15 years earlier Italy would probably have remained loyal, but by 1914 Italian politicians were becoming cocky and demanding more and more.

It seems Italy by the end just declare itself Rome reborn. As they would again be holding most of the territories and in a good position going into the next century on.

Happy to see a face reveal! You look exactly like I thought you would

I think it may have been possible, but its probably too optimistic to say that Italy could have exerted much influence in Spain, Portugal, Turkey, and southern France. The thing is, the Italian government was kind of ineffectual, and even if they gained enough territory to build a new Mediterranean empire, I kind of doubt they would have been savvy enough to exert influence in so many neighboring lands.

i think Italy would've just got niece, savoy, upper savoy, corsica, istria, trento, and some minor concessions in dalmatia (maybe zara and ragusa) and in Africa they would've taken tunisia, djibouti and british somaliland, maybe egypt nd algeria as proctetorates.

I think you assumed Austria would make far too many concessions to Italy. They would have never given Trieste to Italy, not to mention the whole adriatic coast

That moment when a sponsor forces you to do a face reveal, but all jokes aside, you look pretty close to what I imagined.

Already saw your face from watching your speech you gave not long ago. It was a nice speech.

Big man big man! This man is dripping all over the place!

This would be a great world. I kinda wish for continuation. Some follow up video, of alt-history. Z is zet, btw. No matter where you from.

This needs a sequel to examine the possibilities of Germany encountering Japan as it expands influence into China. Alternate WWII? Germany, Italy, and whatever remains of the Ottomans against Japan and the former Entente (essentially British Empire and what’s left of France, angry over its humiliation). Not sure if/how US might be involved.

Nice video with NEFFEX in the background xD

2:00 Based Mr. Z!

This entire video was worth it for 5:36 alone

“an ecomonic union dominated by germany” 🤨🇪🇺

Holly crap your a lot younger then I thought but looking good with your assume voice

lookin cool in those sunglasses man.

Idk if you are the right channel to ask this but can you do a video next on what if the golf stream didn’t exist

this is one of my favorite channles

Are we going to see you more, or is this just a one time thing (excluding that talk you gave)?

I don't know if the ottomans joined the war or not but I'm sure they would have been granted control over Egypt, and Austria Hungary giving up it's sea access as well as annexing Serbia in it's entirety bringing in more slavs would feel like a suicidal move on the empires part.

It's nice to put a face to a voice

Austria giving up triest isn't far fetched, however I think they would haven never given up south tirol due to its austrian pop majority and historical importance (thats like giving up salzburg or styria), rather they would have also handed over dalmatia which the italians wanted too.

bro, you look awesome with those sunglasses

Not gonna lie Mr. Z you’re a good looking dude. An the face reveal actually caught me off guard because at first I didn’t see the text about you saying face reveal.

Map typo: much of Serbia would also go to Bulgaria

You know honestly you look pretty good, especially with those sunglasses on, I wouldn’t mind if you showed your face here and their more often

If Italy had not left the alliance Austria could have survived as an Empire because the massive losses on the Italian front led directly to the collapse of the Empire.

i would like to see a part 2

Only Trentino, but not South Tirol would have been ceeded South Tirol was only demanded by the Italians once France would give it to them. This is because there was almost no italian, but only German population there. Only in trentino (the tirolean Part, which is even more southern than south Tirol) had a majority italian population.

Cool video, I could see Italy rebuilding the Roman Empire, annexing Greece and Hispania and southern France. If the Ottoman Empire falls, the new Roman Empire could take back the east as well. I see the Germanic empire and Roman empires being equals with each other, though Italy would have greater riches having control of the Mediterranean. Britain would have an alliance with Canada, America, Australia, and New Zealand, but they would probably not only loose their African holdings, but perhaps India as well to Italy. Japan would probably start to attack asia as they did in our timeline, and perhaps the German empire would clash with them If they really cared about holdings in Asia. This would put the Japanese with odds against the ame4icans if they threaten their holdings as well.