What if the Enclave Stayed at Navarro After Fallout 2? - Choice 2 - Ending B: Negotiate

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The Omega Initiative

The Omega Initiative

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@TheOmegaInitiative
@TheOmegaInitiative 2 жыл бұрын
Previous video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJ6im7F9vrzKkWw.html
@noahmpinto14
@noahmpinto14 2 жыл бұрын
can u make what if the institute won?
@andrewmannson7543
@andrewmannson7543 2 жыл бұрын
What if the West Virginia Enclave survived and didn't die in their civil war and gas from Modus?
@TheOmegaInitiative
@TheOmegaInitiative 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmannson7543 On my list.
@andrewmannson7543
@andrewmannson7543 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative and please do continue these choice videos, I really like them and others do as well
@Demicleas
@Demicleas 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I should mention there is another break away west Virginia enclave that you see in fallout 76 in the brotherhood dlc. This enclave is a research station and seems to have survived untill shortly before the brotherhood stumbled opaun them when they got killed by there own AI. Heck there bodies haven't even rotted away yet. Just something to remember if you do a video on the west Virginia enclave surviving.
@TheCrystonian
@TheCrystonian 2 жыл бұрын
I say this was one of the best endings
@gggghuuuitcyg7724
@gggghuuuitcyg7724 2 жыл бұрын
ur soy
@willied4058
@willied4058 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@klortikterra4423
@klortikterra4423 Жыл бұрын
100% yes. this takes "A house divided cannot stand" literally. The Government, the Military, and the People, all reunited under one banner. while it may not be America, it is the first steps to reforging America.
@Sophia-vk5bq
@Sophia-vk5bq Жыл бұрын
The true best ending was a gas.
@Maytag_warrior
@Maytag_warrior 5 ай бұрын
Worst*
@thechaosbringer858
@thechaosbringer858 Жыл бұрын
Man, imagine how one sided the battle of Hoover Dam would be in this universe lmao.
@ash82pikachu
@ash82pikachu 2 жыл бұрын
you unironically put so much effort into these videos that even when i’m in the middle of watching something else and i see one , i have to watch it . another amazing video n i loved the interactive elements sm i had to watch all 4 choices lol keep up the amazing work
@stuka-blyat3437
@stuka-blyat3437 2 жыл бұрын
the true enclave. the old goverment- enclave, the patriotic civilians -NCR, and the army- Brotherhood.
@klortikterra4423
@klortikterra4423 Жыл бұрын
why the crossed out?
@gabrielgzz7585
@gabrielgzz7585 Жыл бұрын
The video is brilliantly made, but sadly I just don’t see this making sense. Think of the context: the enclave led a war of complete annihilation against the NCR and their families; the NCR is a nation of civilians, they simply won’t just allow the Enclave to happily regroup and establish themselves - let alone be allies with them. There is no “negotiating” with the Enclave. There is no compromise with an enemy like the Enclave. The NCR should know this.
@cipherxi8513
@cipherxi8513 2 жыл бұрын
With the context of the other endings, it’s sad to know that in the timeline where Gannon fires, his wife/lover (presumably) kills him. And in this one, we see Gannon lose one of the only people he loves. Gonna have to go with the timeline where both parents lived cause who doesn’t want to see the Gannon’s, especially Arcade, get the “good” ending they deserve.
@kaylemconnolly670
@kaylemconnolly670 2 жыл бұрын
Is aulder arcades mum?
@sebastianfilip6459
@sebastianfilip6459 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaylemconnolly670 it's heavily implied in the post credit scene that she is. That caught me off guard too . Though , gannon pulling a gun on his child's mother is disturbing
@gamerfrienship6206
@gamerfrienship6206 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianfilip6459 When the stakes are on there, anything happend in the heat of a moment
@klortikterra4423
@klortikterra4423 Жыл бұрын
in this ending, her sacrifice started the road to reuniting America. so, in the end... it was worth it
@levicarpenter5509
@levicarpenter5509 Жыл бұрын
​@@tanakritgutzlapcharoen9457honestly if Bethesda pulled that people would scream woke
@PelinalWhitestrake36
@PelinalWhitestrake36 2 жыл бұрын
Okay the timelines are so cool i’d love to see what happens afterwards.
@TheOmegaInitiative
@TheOmegaInitiative 2 жыл бұрын
No sequels
@sebastianfilip6459
@sebastianfilip6459 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative you said the same thing about the video where the enclave won in fo3 . If you need more time to decide or to make a sequel there's is no hurry . I would rather have a well made story or no sequel at all , as opposed to a poorly made cluster-fuck
@PelinalWhitestrake36
@PelinalWhitestrake36 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative Awwww… :(
@TheOmegaInitiative
@TheOmegaInitiative 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianfilip6459 That's what happened with the Fallout 3 sequel, that's why I'm not doing it again, because it can't work naturally.
@sebastianfilip6459
@sebastianfilip6459 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative fair enough
@sergeantdornan3833
@sergeantdornan3833 2 жыл бұрын
2:18 THIS WHY I TELL YOU ALL THIS MO-RON'S WEAR YOUR POWER ARMOR!!!!!
@arehmthesalubri2158
@arehmthesalubri2158 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir! Thank you sir!
@deflydefly5276
@deflydefly5276 2 жыл бұрын
best ending. the brotherhoods army origins. the enclaves tech and pre-war ideas. the ncrs democracy and manpower. these 5 things, united. this is the alliance that will reunite the usa. God bless the California Alliance
@enclaveofficerz3245
@enclaveofficerz3245 2 жыл бұрын
And God Bless America and all her People
@gabrielgzz7585
@gabrielgzz7585 Жыл бұрын
The video is brilliantly made, but sadly I just don’t see this making sense. Think of the context: the enclave led a war of complete annihilation against the NCR and their families; the NCR is a nation of civilians, they simply won’t just allow the Enclave (war criminals and genociders) to happily regroup and establish themselves - let alone be allies with them. There is no “negotiating” with the Enclave. There is no compromise with an enemy like the Enclave. The NCR should know this.
@deflydefly5276
@deflydefly5276 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielgzz7585 After the enclave annihilated the attempted coup its very likely the ncr somewhat forgave the enclave and instead saw them as protectors of the republic and the rumors of the enclave trying to gas the whole planet to be bogus rumors.
@deflydefly5276
@deflydefly5276 Жыл бұрын
After all, the only proof they have is about 5-10 people saying this happened
@gabrielgzz7585
@gabrielgzz7585 Жыл бұрын
@@deflydefly5276 don’t you forget they nuked an entire city, and before that killed thousands more
@austinkopp4715
@austinkopp4715 2 жыл бұрын
gunna go rewatch the mrhouse vid and the enclave wins fallout 2 vid now. keep it up omega !!!
@Gyrfalcon312
@Gyrfalcon312 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I was shocked about the first branch of the narrative, then you hit us with a second. Serves me right for commenting before the vid's end! I chose what I think was a damn good ending. I may rewind and explore the others, though.
@pedalpen9844
@pedalpen9844 2 жыл бұрын
No wonder it took you so long for a new video. This is like a 5 in 1 combo. Thanks man this vid gave me chills. Time to see the other endings
@Butter_Warrior99
@Butter_Warrior99 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a hard, but wise choice.
@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384
@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 2 жыл бұрын
“Standing here, I realize you were just like me.”
@carsonshempert7790
@carsonshempert7790 2 жыл бұрын
I love that the brotherhood of steel enclave and ncr formed a alliance with each other
@AWESOMEANCHOVIES
@AWESOMEANCHOVIES 2 жыл бұрын
Good storytelling
@kiesarisunny13
@kiesarisunny13 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy this
@Dabadi4834
@Dabadi4834 2 жыл бұрын
The greatest crossover in fallout
@sinisterisrandom8537
@sinisterisrandom8537 2 жыл бұрын
This honestly reminds me of the choice you can make in the FNV mod called For The Enclave where you can decide if you will have this Enclave splinter group fight with the brotherhood and ncr. Or have em fight both. If you choose the fight with both. Basically gain a shit ton of benefits and get to kill the Richard Elite(President richardson)
@seamy8959
@seamy8959 2 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant, please do more of these
@HikiOmo
@HikiOmo 5 ай бұрын
I like the idea that a version of America was reborn there in California with the alliance being signed.
@damonbutmomabeyta3993
@damonbutmomabeyta3993 2 жыл бұрын
I really respect what you doing here please do more of it in the future
@Oropher420
@Oropher420 Жыл бұрын
This ending is sorta poetic in a way, the three successors to America is reborn, not in the East but in the West. The people (NCR), the army (BOS) and the government (Enclave) of pre-war America finally come together to build a hopeful future.
@aat5739
@aat5739 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve tons of more recognition, I can tell you really care about these games from the amount of effort you put, its people like you and this fanbase that you are creating which will earn fallout some respect again!
@ihavenoideagerman2621
@ihavenoideagerman2621 2 жыл бұрын
incredible stuff man keep going
@swifter46ter
@swifter46ter 2 жыл бұрын
This was a beautiful choose your own adventure. I think more of these should be done on KZfaq. Not only that, but this ending was so beautiful and enjoyable that I'd love to see something similar as an 'end' to the fallout series. Can't have that though, because Bethesda reduced the Enclave to a useless, joke faction. And wiped them out. Maybe a mod? I'd love that.
@havoksaar7905
@havoksaar7905 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job!! I loved every option! But this is my favorite ending!
@DobTech4u
@DobTech4u 2 жыл бұрын
seriously man good work, this is crazy content. best ending here btw
@boyishmallard9404
@boyishmallard9404 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this is truly the peak of fallout KZfaq. This choose your own adventure series honestly had better writing than the star wars sequel trilogy.
@FurTalles
@FurTalles 2 жыл бұрын
I like this ending the most, good job ^^
@turins6th188
@turins6th188 2 жыл бұрын
Not bad dude I like that one good work
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 ай бұрын
I feel like there could have been some exploration of how much of the Enclave thought they were still doing the Doc Henry plan of curing mutants not "Curing" them.
@hjaltenymann7430
@hjaltenymann7430 2 жыл бұрын
The good ending
@bluewavemartialarts869
@bluewavemartialarts869 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that was a brilliant journey, twice. Thank you.
@wojak-sensei6424
@wojak-sensei6424 Жыл бұрын
Jesus, NCR is buddying up with the Brotherhood, the Enclave, and possibly even the Desert Rangers of Nevada. They got that Charisma 10 stat right there.
@monkofdarktimes
@monkofdarktimes Жыл бұрын
That and Mr. House would be more willing to work with them since he was part of the old world government.
@cnlbenmc
@cnlbenmc Жыл бұрын
President Douglas Granite is a definite possibility in this timeline...
@benjaminstorace6699
@benjaminstorace6699 Ай бұрын
And a few years later . . . Caesar's Legion was obliterated, and New Vegas incorporated into the CA
@socialaccount0000
@socialaccount0000 2 жыл бұрын
Peace is achieved! But the Enclave can never go back to how it once was, and their great leader also died. Imo, Burn is probably my favorite ending and the most fitting for the Enclave, either that or Nuking all of California in Ending 1
@mr.fluffles5900
@mr.fluffles5900 Жыл бұрын
This was technically the best ending out of the Bad Ending Route.
@inductivegrunt94
@inductivegrunt94 2 жыл бұрын
This is quite possibly the best ending in this theory. This was great watching all the outcomes, but this was the best of the scenarios/endings.
@JCDenton2012Modder
@JCDenton2012Modder Жыл бұрын
This was like the best ending for Fallout Tactics.
@tarheelpro87
@tarheelpro87 Жыл бұрын
In terms of all Omega Initiative’s videos, here’s my list of some of the best endings. 1. What if Mr House got the Platinum Chip on time 2. What if The Enclave Stayed at Navarro - Don’t Shoot - Negotiate 3. What if The Enclave won in Fallout 3 Honorable Mention: What if The Enclave won in Fallout 2 The enclave winning in Fallout 2 is technically a good ending, but it’s harder to say that it is, because probably millions of innocent people died just because they weren’t pure human enough. But ignoring that, it would probably be higher on the list.
@brandonmyers1400
@brandonmyers1400 2 жыл бұрын
War never changes and it never ends I'm going back to the bird option ha
@thylaggyone4513
@thylaggyone4513 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@klortikterra4423
@klortikterra4423 2 жыл бұрын
THIS. is my perfect Enclave. Reuniting democracy and the military. as president Lincoln once said "A house divided can not stand". this not only reunites the government with the military but also brings the civilians into it. America resorted.
@Sambath-oc8ss
@Sambath-oc8ss 2 жыл бұрын
So, I was thinking about the vaults and vault-tec. Do you think you see yourself talking about them? I think it would be interesting to talk about one, like say Vault 22,. Talk about their purpose, why they failed/succeed, their end goal for the vault and maybe a what if with them. Like what if Vault 22 succeeded? Maybe it ended up being a faction similar to the Boomers, where they remained isolated with their tech, or the Followers of the Apocalypse where they use it to help everyone. Maybe they get targeted a lot because of the food potential.
@rednovastrum2475
@rednovastrum2475 2 жыл бұрын
someone needs to make a fan game out of this stuff....
@WorldWalker128
@WorldWalker128 Жыл бұрын
And then Caesar and his legion were crushed by the combined might and skill of the alliance.
@monkofdarktimes
@monkofdarktimes Жыл бұрын
Mr house would be on the Alliance side and the boomers. A new American Republic
@SergeantDoorman
@SergeantDoorman 2 жыл бұрын
Okay best ending
@shanemcdowell3628
@shanemcdowell3628 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna ask for a sequel, but what if there was another path that opened: What if Mr. House heard the Enclave/Enclave found Big MT?
@septemberstarlight9362
@septemberstarlight9362 2 жыл бұрын
The NCA, i like it.
@Rex-The-Wolf
@Rex-The-Wolf 2 жыл бұрын
These videos were amayzing! Love the addition of choises too! I notoced i hadnt subscribed yet so i did that too, love the house video too!, now i wonder, what do you think would happen of benny succeeded in overthrowing house?
@TheOmegaInitiative
@TheOmegaInitiative 2 жыл бұрын
If he somehow got through Caesar and took control of Vegas, I assume that he would be pretty easy to take down whether through assassination or manipulation. He's not a very good planner like House is, he would likely still defend Hoover Dam against the Legion and butt heads with the NCR, but with his previously mentioned unsecure position, the NCR would likely come out on top.
@Rex-The-Wolf
@Rex-The-Wolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative most likely, unless the omertas arrent deatlth with, if the vile legion does win hoover dam or loses it but manages to claim vegas with help of the omertas, benny is dead either way but what will happen if the ncr legion war isnt even interveined in by mr house or benny? The mojave truly is unstable
@lostphoenix1911
@lostphoenix1911 2 жыл бұрын
You should do one about the Minutemen. Like “What if the Minutemen had support at Quincy”
@anvos658
@anvos658 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the Minutemen victory path would be "what if the CPG succeeded instead of ending in a mutual fire fight". Institute doesn't give up on the surface and Minutemen have back up and Gen 1/2 synths to fall back on to help when the Mirelurk Queen overwhelms the Castle. Let alone without sealing themselves off the Institute never has to trust Kellogg as their field agent, which means University Point and the SS' Vault don't end in needless massacres and all the people that needlessly die over the years wondering in to scavenging operations, since the Institute could openly post what areas are being salvaged for their and the Commonwealth's common good. Then add in super mutants don't exist, since if they Institute continues it they would be doing so legally such as through an alternative means to dispose of raiders and criminals and they have no reason to release them back into the wild.
@Maytag_warrior
@Maytag_warrior 5 ай бұрын
Bad ending, We won’t negotiate with terrorists
@Bombers57
@Bombers57 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why but the apa mk1 helmet on the ground at the end reminds me of halo reach
@internetenjoyer9937
@internetenjoyer9937 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to Tandi?
@TheOmegaInitiative
@TheOmegaInitiative 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing, she lived through this
@MadLad_Poli33
@MadLad_Poli33 Жыл бұрын
Based ending
@Maytag_warrior
@Maytag_warrior 5 ай бұрын
Cursed***
@AmericanUnionState1824
@AmericanUnionState1824 2 жыл бұрын
The best ending
@matthewbogucki8984
@matthewbogucki8984 2 жыл бұрын
indeed
@Sameboy124
@Sameboy124 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about if the Sierra madre never fell
@Machete87
@Machete87 Жыл бұрын
oh shit the brotherhood those 2 NCR n Brotherhood hate each other.
@shiniblackrose
@shiniblackrose Жыл бұрын
Now, how would Fallout New Vegas look if that was the canonical ending? I'm thanking Ceaser wouldn't stand much of a chance
@Gyrannon
@Gyrannon Жыл бұрын
Honestly, given events between Fallout 2 & New Vegas, I could've seen the Brotherhood hating the idea of the NCR working with The Enclave, and given that the NCR is power hungry, I could see the Enclave taking full advantage of that. The Brotherhood generally don't care about wastelanders & outsiders to their group, only enforcing the technology confiscation directive. The NCR & Enclave would thrive, and eventually the Enclave could essentially revive the old government through the NCR. After that with superior technology over the Brotherhood, they'd become a much more serious threat. Even the Legion later on would undoubtedly get wiped out in the first war without House's help. An alliance between NCR, Brotherhood, and Enclave tho? I kinda doubt it.
@wedoalittletrolling723
@wedoalittletrolling723 6 ай бұрын
I think NCR and Enclave was temp alliance or something prob to take down BOS, the Enclave was gonna replace the NCR at some point
@Maytag_warrior
@Maytag_warrior 5 ай бұрын
Bad ending* We won’t negotiate with terrorists
@brotherhoodofsteel4751
@brotherhoodofsteel4751 2 жыл бұрын
Not bad but mostly Indians kind of feel forced into giving The enclave a good ending I mean when you think about it realistically either the Brotherhood or the NCR probably would have assaulted The enclave at Navarro directly after the first assault knowingly they would be too disorganized to hold them off.
@dragonfell5078
@dragonfell5078 2 жыл бұрын
I find it kinda weird how the NCR were so willing to negotiate despite getting their city nuked, or am I thinking of a different ending? I might've mistaken one of the annihilation endings for the parent video
@ondrejnejedly9455
@ondrejnejedly9455 2 жыл бұрын
In this timeline, the only city nuked was San Francisco, so yes, you have other ending in mind.
@B00tyWarrior
@B00tyWarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know any good groups for fallout 76 groups. Trying to learn more and do an enclave build
@BlueBoxRevan
@BlueBoxRevan 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta do a what if video for after this video. Pretty please?
@TheOmegaInitiative
@TheOmegaInitiative 2 жыл бұрын
No sequels
@BlueBoxRevan
@BlueBoxRevan 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative darn. Lol your so good at story writing though 😂
@TheOmegaInitiative
@TheOmegaInitiative 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlueBoxRevan Not at writing sequels
@nikagrandtour
@nikagrandtour Ай бұрын
im locked in rn
@TrulyKingdom
@TrulyKingdom Ай бұрын
This is how you write a faction BETHESDA.
@samsarex4318
@samsarex4318 2 жыл бұрын
And you said 2 months ago an NCR and enclave alliance couldn't happen
@SoalRaptor
@SoalRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Guess I got the good ending lol
@carsonshempert7790
@carsonshempert7790 2 жыл бұрын
What If th enclave found big mountain
@sebastianfilip6459
@sebastianfilip6459 2 жыл бұрын
Question : If aulder is arcade's mom , then what was her relationship with Gannon ? Like , they seem to have a commander -subordinate relationship only , not a romantic one . I am curious what happened between them. Can you answer me , please ?
@TheOmegaInitiative
@TheOmegaInitiative 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not writing a romance story. It's a background element that you can see the effects of if you rewatch the story knowing about it.
@sebastianfilip6459
@sebastianfilip6459 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative now that I think about it , If you pay attention , you can see something is up between Gannon and aulder. Like , aulder realeased Gannon from his cell fairly quickly , though it was messed up of Gannon to pull out a gun on his child's mother . Also , is aulder a cannon character , or have you made her up ?
@TheOmegaInitiative
@TheOmegaInitiative 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianfilip6459 Made up
@sebastianfilip6459
@sebastianfilip6459 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative thanks
@AmandaFessler
@AmandaFessler 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianfilip6459 She also has a pointed concern for Arcade in the first video. It's the first thing that tipped me off that something was up.
@ghostsstarwars1929
@ghostsstarwars1929 2 жыл бұрын
What if enclave save dc from the nukes and did not get hit?????
@redline841
@redline841 Жыл бұрын
Wonder what the Courier is doing?
@Oropher420
@Oropher420 Жыл бұрын
He's not even born yet, FO II takes place 100 years before FO NV.
@gabrielgzz7585
@gabrielgzz7585 Жыл бұрын
The video is brilliantly made, but sadly I just don’t see this making sense. Think of the context: the enclave led a war of complete annihilation against the NCR and their families; the NCR is a nation of civilians and politicians, they simply won’t just allow the Enclave to regroup and establish themselves - let alone be allies. The damage is too much, the deaths too many. There is no “negotiating” with the enclave. The NCR should know this.
@brotherhoodofsteel4751
@brotherhoodofsteel4751 2 жыл бұрын
Not bad but most of the endings kind of feel forced into giving The enclave a good ending I mean when you think about it realistically either the Brotherhood or the NCR probably would have assaulted The enclave at Navarro directly after the first assault knowingly they would be too disorganized to hold them off.
@SCComega
@SCComega 2 жыл бұрын
The best ending. And honestly what should have happened to the Enclave when they saw that you had a bunch of people trying to re-create the US anyway along with US army remnants. But hey, insane mustache-twirling villain style writing will do that to a faction, lol.
@anamarvelo
@anamarvelo 2 жыл бұрын
they didnt think of the citizens of NCR as humans, thats why. and hte brotherhood where the decendnets of traitors, so...again, no love there
@SCComega
@SCComega 2 жыл бұрын
@@anamarvelo I understand this, but consider it under "mustache twirling villainesque writing".
@anamarvelo
@anamarvelo 2 жыл бұрын
@@SCComega Except humanity has routine routinely dehumanized segments of its population to kill them or subject them to slavery. The enclave not considering the California's human is no more unrealistic than the nazis not considering the Jews and slaves human or the Americans not considering black people as human
@SCComega
@SCComega 2 жыл бұрын
@@anamarvelo see, the problem here is with the depopulated state of the world to begin with. Dehumanization usually has only come into effect historically where a group is looking to colonize an already populated area, and usually after targeted propaganda. I don't know of any point in history of any sizable group dehumanizing everyone but themselves, and looking to wipe out a settled people when they have both openly free areas to colonize or less civilized peoples to wipe out first. Otherwise genocides have occurred after seizing territory, and usually after dehumanization via blaming / scapegoating societal woes on them. We see none of this with the enclave. It's uncharacteristic of historical examples and the basis of such is sketchy. Hence why mustache twirling, it's beyond the historical extremes.
@anamarvelo
@anamarvelo 2 жыл бұрын
@@SCComega Except you're forgetting the part where the enclave claim the entire United States as their own sovereign territory and view the Non humans there as interlocers and invaders. So they're not just going to go settled somewhere else because to them it's their territory. While The Bible is not a historical recordIt does tell the tale of a nomadic group which could have gone somewhere else committing genocide against a settled group suggesting that it was not an uncommon occurrence as you're trying to present it
@adeptuscustode115
@adeptuscustode115 Жыл бұрын
California alliance versus the legion when?
@levicarpenter5509
@levicarpenter5509 Жыл бұрын
"And thus the remnants of the US military, government and the people are united ready to build a new"
@kearbyrichter3903
@kearbyrichter3903 2 жыл бұрын
The good ending
@agentdeputyleon8933
@agentdeputyleon8933 Жыл бұрын
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