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Imagine how heraclius felt. He spent 2 decades in trying to restore Rome's borders and when he finally succeeded the Muslims arrived. Excellent video!

There are a few other things I want to mention: - North Africa, the Levant and Mesopotamia would still be speaking Coptic, Berber and Aramaic. - Charlemagne (if he would even exist) would never he crowned emperor by the pope, meaning the Holy Roman Empire would just remain East Francia. - the Balkans would probably still fall to the Slavs. There is no way the Byzantines could have stopped hundreds of Slavic tribes. - the Muslim Persian states would never exist and thus never use Turkic mercenaries, meaning the Turks would never conquer Iran, and thus the Caucasus and Anatolia.

This would also have big ramifications with East Africa. The Nubian kingdoms would be able to maintain contact with Rome and would remain Christian and not fall to Islam in the 15th century. Ethiopia would also be more connected to the rest of the Christian world. Perhaps Ethiopia wouldn't have been driven into the interior and have been able to expand and spread their influence.

Paradise?

Then Zoroastrinism would still be a dominant religion.

I disagree on the part about the Western Empire being so successful, although it would rebound, it would find the Visigoths harder to break, would have to deal with Lombards, and eventually the Franks and Germanic Tribes. I see the Franks, perhaps, winning that war unless the Eastern Empire comes to their aid. The rest, sounds about accurate. I do think the Sassanids would struggle to survive after 1000 A.D. when the Turks would enter the Middle East just like in our timeline. Removing the Arabs also empowers Ethopia. If not for Islam, Ethopia may have conquered Arabia. That wasn't really addressed well in the video.

Strange how something as insignificant as ordering an army to winter in a certain place changes the course of world history immensely

Great video. The creation of the Islamic faith was a great turning point in history and the alternative version where it wasn't is a very interesting concept.

The True title of the video should be "what if the Romans and Persians didn't go to war for 700 years"

Maurice is really underrated. I believe that he was also the first fully ethnically Greek Roamn Emperor

Call me biased but, this looks like an amazing alternate option to our timeline... Great video once more!

The video is produced quite well but i disagree on a few points: - I don't think that the Byzantines had enough strenght to defeat the Avars and if they did another tribe/power might replace them. -You vastly overestimate the Byzantine holdings in the western balkans. By this point they only controled the adriatic coastline with some inland forts/towns, but they didn't have firm control over them. Location of Sirmium is also wrong. - The great Persian-Roman war might have been avoided but the rivarly would never stop. Both hated each other and the Persians wanted to take Egypt, the Levant and Anatolia. - By this point Italy was so depopulated and exhausted from decades of war that restoration of the western empire was not likely. Also Africa was a very rich province and the east would never give it up.

The Justinian Plague and the Gothic War left Italy depopulated and invaluable. Nearly all of it’s urban centres became irrelevant, and nearly all of it’s infrastructure was destroyed. It would require undertaking a massive, daring effort by the Western Roman Empire to reconquer all of Italy and Hispania, especially with the little wealth and manpower they had outside of Africa. However, the Western Roman Empire wouldn’t have to suffer with the religious unrest on the likes of that in the Eastern Roman Empire, as Africa, Italy snd Hispania were predominantly adherents to Chalcedonian Christianity.

African Latin would still exist

Despite the accent, the pronunciation is perfect and the content even moreso. Awesome new creator, thanks to Mr. Z for the new sub.

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Good video, though this is basically a "What if Mohammad never existed" scenario. A more different video would have been if Arabs were contained west of Zagros and a Sassanid state had survived in Iranian heartland similar to the Byzantines.

What a wonderful world that we missed

As a persian i see this as an absolute win

A world of Zoroastrianism vs Christianity!

"What if Islamic conquests failed" Egyptians and Phoenicians on the background,not bowing down to the Arabs: *party music* Arabs,unable to civilize without a proper leader and a more centralized religion and army: *arabic swearing with desert sounds* Assyrians on their way to revive their empire: Jews not getting kicked out of their homeland and finally not living like garbage in all of Europe: Indians of all Hindus Valley finally not getting apart from their brothers because of religion,cuz everyone now hinduist: Turkics getting kicked out from Anatolia and Caucasus due to staying as nomads,and creating instead a empire in Steppes,never countering Byzantines or Armenians: By the anyway,history would majorily change,mate.

Amazing video bröther

This is also a timeline where the 5 holy c's remain Christian including Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem, and Constantinople. Unlike our timeline in which we only have Rome and Jerusalem, and with Jerusalem the Jews own it. A timeline in which the 2 major religions being Christianity and Zoroastrianism seems to me like a better timeline tbh.

Good accent, i can't understand most of American/English channels but i do understand Slavs. Greetings from Costa Rica

This is more like "What if Muhammad never born" rather than "If Islamic conquest failed". If the conquest failed: -Arab still united -Breakup to smaller Muslim tribes after Rashidun ended -Islam still exist, but limited to Arabian peninsular, Egypt, Levant, Mashriqi. -If Byzantines collapse, Egypt would become a Coptic kingdom. Much like Ethiopia. -Crusader might not happened in this timeline.

@Bulgarian Empire Mapping I wish You could do a classic video of "History of (region of The world) Every year"

Great vid

Amazing! Bravo to you for making such a badass video! It would also be interesting if you made a video, about What if the Turkification of Anatolia Failed. Cheers from Georgia!

A better world...

Let’s be honest if the Islamic empire didn’t exist we wouldn’t have much development or countries as now everything can be changed by a simple touch to a country

Interesting!

The tang dynasty might conquer central Asia and the discovery of the age of exploration might be delayed. I wonder if this world industrializes.

Nestorianism was spreading in Persia during the last decades of Sassanian rule, it might become a lot stronger in Central Asia and India, maybe even Persia itself.

nice video but I just want to see a sequel to this

I really appreciate that you're pretty much the only alt-history channel that doesn't assume that Abrahamic cults (particularly Christianity and Islam) would have dominated the world anyway, even if things played out differently and all the odds were stacked against them. All these other channels are clearly biased towards these cults. You seem to be one of the few objective alt history channels.

Don’t know how I ended up here but I’m enjoying it.

Medina literally means "City".

Maurice is such an underrated Emperor for all the potential he'd built. The ultimate what-if imo

A better ending , A happy ending , The best ending

What about LALIA? (Late antiquity little ice age) this period lead to more rain and the rise of greenery in arabia wich lead to overpopulation while not being effected by the wars (except in yemen) nor the plagues this is actually the mean reason why the islamic conquest was successful depopulated empire by wars and plagues and an overpopulated arabia with a new religion

The good ending

Whats the name of the songs (Instrumental beats). BTW love your videos, best greetings from Albania/Kosovo

5:57 Me: *groans “nooooooo…not again!” out loud*

What if the Mongols conquered Egypt ?

If only Persia and Rome weren't at each other's throats all the time, this easily could have been the case, and humanity would have been much better off for it. Such a shame

You can change as much history events as you’d like, the Arabian conquest was as Thanos described himself “Inevitable”

"What if the Persian reconquest from the Muslim occupiers succeeded?

I say Persia falls, they already had internal issues and operated as something of a Sassanid lead Parthian Confederacy where even that Sassanid legitimacy had diluted to other leading clans. I would say maybe if the Lakhmids play their cards right they might conquer it and they had converted to Christianity. Or Sassnids be replaced by a Pathlavi dynasty that is eventually taken over by Nestorian Arabs.

Not beneficial to Bulgaria. Maybe in this scenario our ancestors would not go as deep as ancient Greece at certain points. I'm not sure if they would remain well below the Danude. Simply more legions for Rome doesnt mean they could deploy many more but for sure in such scenario the success of the first Bulgarian empire wouldnt be the same in style. Probadly would also settle in the Panonian basin.

good vid

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how the death of ONE man changes history.

The largest empire other than Rome, Britain and the Mongols, and Russians

I'd say, there would be the missing romance language and nation in north Africa.

I think assuming the situation was that stable is probably wrong. An autonomous Western Empire based heavily in Africa and the Exarchate of Ravenna might see some success, particularly in Italy, although I don't foresee the Franks allowing them to get more than that before they begin supporting the empire's rivals in some form, or helping to carve them up themselves. Whether the west would be up to facing the Franks would depend very heavily on how well its first few centuries go, as well as who is on the Frankish throne, since the Frankish Kingdom in this period was incredibly dependent on having a capable monarch, but incredibly powerful when it did. Likewise, the situation in the east might not blow up as spectacularly as it did in reality, but Eastern Rome was facing fierce internal conflict with Egypt and parts of Syria, and the Avars were far from the last horde coming down from the north. Maurice was unique in that he was so much more popular than the man who replaced him that many were uncertain of whether letting Persia in was actually the greater evil, at least at first, but Persia could still launch an invasion when an emperor was preoccupied or during transition, and there's no guarantee that it wouldn't make significant gains. Persia itself was also in decline though, and you completely omitted the rapidly growing Nestorians, whom the Persians were more hesitent to persecute because they had Roman backing, and whom the Romans regularly used as a cassus belli against Persia during their wars. That situation wasn't going to end peacefully, one way or another, and while the Sassanids might not implode, civil war was likely in the cards for the near future, as it had been in much of their history. The Eastern Romans were also beginning to recover from the devastation of Justinian's plague and the more recent invasions, so if the east sees its star rising again, it's very likely that they will at least attempt to return to the old Roman pastime of sacking Ctesiphon. Clearly such an advance was possible, given what Heraclius managed with a devastated empire, and if the Arabs begin to favor Rome consistently it might even become likely, assuming that the Eastern Empire doesn't split in half over religion or get devastated by Bulgars. Personally, I see Sassanid collapse as coming in the relatively near future, and Western Roman restoration stopping after securing a more stable position in Italy, possibly just restoring everything south of Rome, while Spain either divides against itself before later reunifying or is taken by the Franks. The East probably masterminds the Sassanid collapse and restores a favorable position by creating or restoring Christian client kingdoms in Armenia, Iraq, and Arabia, and propping them up, while a more modest Persia persists either under a branch of the Sassanids or a new house and probably has some difficult times facing off against increasingly aggressive Turks. Long term the scenario benefits the Eastern Romans the most, so if the Sassanids or anyone else doesn't do something to nerf them soon, I see them becoming the dominant European/Near Eastern power, particularly as the situation in Europe stabilizes with the growth of Christianity. East west Schism probably doesn't occur, though the churches do drift apart culturally and repeatedly excommunicate opposing emperors. Western Rome has about as good of odds of being reincorporated at some point as of remaining independent, with an outside chance of Frankish conquest of some or all of it, particularly in mainland Europe. Nestorianism probably gets huge, maybe even gaining majorities in some countries without Islam nerfing its heartlands, and Persia probably protects and promotes Zoroastrianism much better than in reality, though it was a faith in decline, and absent major reforms likely doesn't expand much, and may even lose Persia with enough Roman intervention. The real wild card is the Germans, and whether they unite under the Franks, unite under someone else, and what happens with their religion. Absent Islam we lose Charles Martel's victory at Tours, so the Carolingians might not be a thing, Frankia might be weak, and Christianity might have a much harder time among the Germans without Charlemagne. Vikings without Christianity gradually taking their homelands from the south might be a far larger threat than they already were, and might lead to interesting consequences for Western Europe and Russia. Arabs also still likely create trading empire's around the Indian Ocean, though without Islamic domination things will be quite different there too.

The best timeline!! Rome still dominant and no Muslims....now that is a world I will love to live in!!

Yemen was a center for trade and knowledge in pre-islamic arabia, do you think then in this alternate timeline Yemen might become the most influential powerhouse or even the unifier of Arabia?

Research the years 630 through 740 AD. ISLAM was not a cult during that time yet. Research the coins, architecture, language, rock inscriptions, water sources, etc. The early Quran suras were Christian poems.

Add in the fact that the inhabitants Malaysia and Indonesia both, would remain predominantly affiliated with Dharmic faiths.

Heraclius the Great would not had his Emperorship ruined if Islam didnt fucking Ruin it. All hail the savior of ROME

this video should be titled: "What if Eastern Rome wasn't usurped by the worst emperor history had to offer?"

6:53 *Soviet anthem plays in Arabic*

Neat

Not Good Or Bad. Just A Strange World

A blessed timeline

Always wondered about this if they hadn’t fought could the Islamic conquest been successful

And also let us forget that the Persians and the Romans were more numerous in number and equipment, and also allied themselves in order to bring down the Arabs, but they could not, under the leadership of Heraclius, the strong leader.

What if constantinople fell in 717?

The greatest thing to ever happen to humanity

Interesting make more and came form Monsieur z

I worked this idea with a Alternate History scenario i made,basically the Earlier Muslim Caliphate Fell because of a Successful Non-Muslim Peasant Revolt that took place in Egypt

Islam is coming again and it will be stronger than before

Ah yes, the good ending.

The Arabs were in a violent civil war. It was a war of apostasy, and this was before their fight against the Persians and the Romans, so there is no excuse that the Arabs were able to defeat the Persians and the Romans with their strength

I honestly think that even if the Islamic conquests did fail, it probably would be inevitable for the Arabs to unite into a single caliphate, though their religion won’t be as widespread as in OTL.

If only this was the real timeline...

roman would still be a thing today

Good Ending

Hey BEM you can pronounce my name pretty well!

I don't think The Western Roman Empire would be able to conquer Spain, especially with them fighting the Lombard's and later the Franks and Germans, it really wouldn't be worth the resources required either and it'd be even harder to maintain it especially with Frankish pressure, and I don't think we'd see major conflicts between Western and Eastern Empires as this would weaken them for other enemies to just conquer.

No 9/11...

the after shocks of this event would prevent the creation of the food product known as Takis

the golden timeline

"Why did the Islamic conquest failed?" Thousands of Muslims in North Africa and iran and Pakistan : hmmmmmmm interesting

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A man can dream I wish this was the history😊

Part 2?

Then Iran would've been Islam free and better off.

Truly paradise !!! Since with the Sassanid empire & the byzantine empire still remaining as the world's superpowers & each other's allies would have also resulted in the Mongolian empire to never expand westwards !!! ( terrible & devastating wars would have happened for sure but the Mongolian empire would have 99.99% never ever set foot in the west in either of Persia or byzantium !!!! ) For those blinded turkic or Mongolian nationalists or anyone who is gonna complain, I'm gonna remind you : *the Mongols under Genghiz Khan sure killed & fought & won over a lot of people & armies in all sides but take into account that THEY FOUGHT ONLY AGAINST THE EXTREMELY WEAK OR "WEAKENED" NATIONS & COUNTRIES* We're talking about the Sassanid & the byzantine empires here !!! ( *fri**ing superpowers of the world* !!! ) & superpowers which were already greatly advanced & developed , as matter of fact it's not even that far from mind to think that they would have even invented the gunpowder by the times the Mongolian empire was only about to rise. Truly a paradise !!!! Unburned libraries crying of laughter & happiness in the distant :""""""))

Hmm yes nice alt history

Muslim was the reason Charistainity united . Without Muslim unity among Charistain was not possible.

The good ending.

No 1Sl4m, N0 w4r.

I feel like you still Ignore that the Muslism would most likely still attempt to Take Persian territories in Arabia like Oman and Yemen, how successful woul they be at this and what would be the Persian response?.

Good ending

This title is a Persian wet dream

We could of prevented 9/11 this way

You didn't Cover effect's on indian subcontinent and south east asia

Part 2