“Non existent haters” lmaooo😭😭😭😭😭

Yeonjun is so talented and humble, he always gives his fans advice on his vlives and leaves loving messages for them. I feel that he is one of the few idols who is truly grateful for his fame and the love he receives.

This is the thing that i don't like. Making your own rule book and applying those rules to everyone. It is great if someone Was privileged enough to be liked and loved by everyone and never had any haters but this might not be same with everyone. People who are not celebrities still have haters. Some people always have those figures in their mind who look down upon them, they might be their friends, bully or their own family members. And someone who is an artist will obviously use their art to express their frustration for those kind of poeple. I can't believe there are people who look down on those trainees who wrote diss tracks.

I totally admire Yeonjun for that, because even if they had some “haters” (that would be people who wasn’t good to you, and ALL of us have been in that situation), writing diss tracks it’s way easier that writing more meaningful lyrics.

I love him.

@@trishikdas1050 do u know that? the black label is pushing her as a “broken savage girl” in her music videos because that’s the character she portrays, that’s part of her style of music. of course she wants to be successful but that doesn’t mean she as a person is losing herself

@@trishikdas1050 yeah but u genuinely don’t KNOW her you’ve never met her. you can’t tell a person by the vibes they pick up on their instagram.

@@trishikdas1050 yeah ok.

@@1ia802 ikr

awareness itself is progress she'll get there hopefully

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Yess!! I gladly preach that 💚💚

in mc ari we believe.

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I think it's also worth taking into account how young idols can be when they debut. It's probably easier for teenagers to fall victim to the celebrity disease as they're still developing mentally and they're being given a lot more power than most children would have. I see a lot of people now going after Wonyoung for a supposed celebrity disease and considering the fact that she's only 17 it's entirely possible that she is, but will most likely grow out of it just like Somi.

I think Wonyoung is going through that now tbh

@@NinjaKittkatt this is a very good point!

@@NinjaKittkatt exactly, both Somi and wonyoung debuted at a young age so it’s not surprising

@@NinjaKittkatt Well said

Wow. Such a cool person. Cuz it's so easy and usually done if person is very busy and very wealthy to hire help to do house chores especially cleaning.

Ohh who is it?

@@razee7869 that's a private matter so I think the author will not say the celebrity's name

That’s honestly a surprising way but it’s so true!! Whoever that person is, they’re honestly very smart and amazing. I love the tactic but I am dying over how he worded it 💀 it makes u think about it if he doesn’t explain it and when he does it all made sense 😂 (sorry if that sounds weird)

oh my- that's such a smart and good thinking

idk but wonyoung is just being herself. she didn't catch the celebrity disease she's just hated for no reason. she isn't cocky or smth and she loves her fans

@@canna5251 there's been clips of her forgetting to bow during music shows and it's painted how a lot of netizens see her, Korean and international but mostly Korean...though once again I really think that lack of self awareness is just a function of her age.

@@de341f6 that one vid of her not bowing was actually strategically edited to paint her in a bad light. this video explains it better than i can in writing: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLCWd86prpu7qXU.html

Watch as people are going to defend her because you said this and tbh, I have to agree with you, there are so many idols who have the celebrity disease, it’s pretty obvious by just looking at their faces.

@@cherrybear8288 Half of you don't know her/haven't seen her UNTIL IVE debuted. I don't even care for her much, but I do not get those vibes from her at all. There's a multitude of content from IZ*ONE days, in which no one had an issue with her then & she acts practically the same as now. She's a kid, she's been in the idol industry since she was like 12- does she have attitude problems? Honestly, we don't know & never will. She never shows it in front of cameras, she's always kind in public, she's never disrespected fans or members, she seems like an overall nice girl. I'm almost positive most of this hate is coming from people mad she's the center of a monster rookie group, she's pretty (idc abt plastic surgery btw), she seems sweet, she's almost 100% going into "it" girl territory (its cringe to even call anyone an it girl, lol), & she's not untalented. IS2G y'all literally camp her videos, posts, etc just to find something to cry and complain about. if you hate her then...ignore her? It screams jealousy the way y'all come for this kid. If she's really this horrible person, only time will tell & it'll come out on it's own. As of now, I don't think clawing at random miniscule things is making you look good. But imo? Wonyo seems like a sweet girl who's doing her best with what she's been given. I've noticed the ONLY people criticizing her SO harshly are literal children in youtube comments or on tiktok.

Well said. Couldn't agree more

@@1mstillin2019 I wasn't exactly pointing out that still yes,some fan can be really insecure about there idols but I wouldn't say middle successful groups fandoms are the most insecure ones.

@G-Taehyung true

You can say blinks withoth being scared lol

@@jjba3571 if I want to nitpick just blinks/any fandom I would have straight up just say blinks are like that.

Good thing you know your limits and are self- aware 👏 👏

same. i would be a menace if i became famous.

@@feaww5085 a menace 😭 lol

I hate compliments so idk if I'd have that problem XD

Hani is so nice for that 😭

yeah she also sometimes bring the other members to her variety shows. She never forgets to shine a light to her members.

I always loved her so much

Our penguin

Ahh I love him 💕

He doesn't even act like a celebrity 😭 I don't why but I find him so cute.

Yea thank you for acknowledging hes so precious❤

He is literally the pride of Exo

Im a VIP but I must admit Seungri was flying too high for him even before the burning sun situation. The rest of BigBang are all rounders and humble af, but many of us believed that Seungri was envious of them. You can see that between the four there are no competition, but Seungri was always lacking in some ways (and now he's completely ruined). I've been a VIP for more than 10 years so in no way, shape or form this is hate. I feel like many people would agree.

he sounds like one of those people who overcompensate for what they hugely lack, after learning he wasn't actually included in the lineup until last minute. that definitely didn't create inferiority issues, surprisingly, the people who get into sex related crimes or end up on r/niceguys somehow were not exactly the most talented people.

No he is just plain bad

Seungri - I must say I don't know the current state of his criminal charges - but from the last I heard of him and things he did, it seems that rather than celebrity disease, he is a symptom of Chaebol culture in Korea. In a few words, people who are so powerful they barely even face consequences for their crimes. An interesting watch, if you don’t know what I'm talking about: m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ra6naqSSnNLMmKs.html&feature=share

@@EfeFlet can't agree more

but even wonyoung debuted younger, she never acted superior among their staffs or people around her. staffs call her polite and sweet. even calls her stylist, mom. what are these comments even saying.. TT wonyoung is a sweet and respectful girl, she never looked down on anyone. people are misunderstanding the ive situation again

@@mika-nv9uu ikr its a little hard seeing everybody saying wonyoung has the celebrity diseases when its just based on those bowing clips. I havent really seen any other instances that can point out any arrogance but if she has them im sure she can deal with it well

@@mika-nv9uu THIS. I've never been a huge Wonyo stan, even during IZ*ONE days, but I can confidently say she has never given me rude vibes. She just seems like a sweet kid who's trying to have fun & make the most of her situation. Of course, she could've totally experienced this entitled attitude, it kinda comes with the job like Somi said. But idk... I've heard nothing but good things about her from staffs, people behind the scenes, etc... so it's kind of weird seeing people claw at things to hate her for. Also, not to mention, IZ*ONE was full of extremely hard working & humble girls, I think they were a good influence on her from a young age & probably helped a lot.

@@aleleliah i think they think its hard to believe someone like her can be that perfect lol they hve to speculate and make assumptions on her personality

@@dimly2002 I couldn’t agree more. I mean you see someone like her who has achieved a lot at a young age ppl be getting jealous and assuming and speculating about her. Cause its kind of unbelievable how successful she is.

and she STILL hasn't apologized for the cultural apporpriation 🙄

@@zzzonline what

@@8luvbug kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a9mIn5qcu6-5io0.html specifically she completely disrespected Hinduism and never apologized.

@@zzzonline oh.

@@akshaysaluja7062 Are you actually Hindu from India or somewhre like that?

And their personalities make them 10 times more attractive

It caught me offguard too. Like all of a sudden you are coming for BTOB. They do nothing but stay in their lane and produce good music.

@@SK-so5jy He's just jealous that they're all better vocalists than him

He in no way looks like Donghae... Donghae is clearly on another level 💕💙

He wish he was as handsome as btob members lol , they are manly and kind and talented, that dude was jjat jelous

And they are true gentlemen, they give their jackets to apink in a show cuz the award didnt give her blankets for her legs, theybare so niceeee

don't know them really well but I know Soobin from TXT is friends with Minhyuk(? I think I got his name wrong), and Bahiyyih from Kep1er is presumed to be a fan of him, in a radio interview she seemed very excited and he was so friendly and nice to her, I can count with fingers of one hand the amount of senior idols who have that relationship with juniors. Like yeah it's probably because of generational differences but most of the time seniors see juniors just like that, as someone below them. It's nice to see people act nice no matter their "titles"

Minhyuk too?

@@fullsun2236 Ya cuz everyone say soobin look like minhyuk. And ya BtoB is very good people.

I'm an Atiny and I became a fan of BTOB after seeing the way they interacted with Ateez on Kingdom. It was so wholesome!

I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THEM?? LIKE THEY ARE SO HUMBLE AND THEY MAKE EVERYONE AROUND THEM FEEL SO LOVED. BEST BOYS EVER

and they have never been problematic either

Same and the part that they make their shy introverted members shine too is just so amazing.

Facts ryt here

@@igotaponytail8472 yes I once typed unproblematic kpop group on KZfaq and they were the first to pop up!

.......and become popular....

Hahaha same

Do u have video of him saying that or any articles? I want to know more

@@alia-kx1pl Sorry I only remember it was in a radio show around the You're so fine era :/ 2016 I think...

Oh this reminds me, this happened to SNSD when they made their last comeback. They actually mentioned how only EXO came to greet them and gave them an album, and then the next time the other juniors who were very new, found out about how SNSD was disappointed and came over. Probably because SNSD actually mentioned this in public and maybe the idols were made to go apologize and greet them the next time to save face

@@janinejay3423 Well now I found Sejeong (ex ioi & gugudan) talking in Knoing Brother how some juniors didn't greet her once she re-debuted, like bc her group wasn't as "famous" she automatically lose her seniority Considering hierarchy is big thing in korea I think idols who don't greet or don't use honorifics are more than just be "big heads" they are plain rude

Well BTS itself was looked down for changing in the bathroom and practice in the hall and don't have a changing room. I think it was a member of a girl group who revealed this

so basically chuunibyous lol

Narcissism isn't bad? 💀

@@maothecat7949 idk about being bad or not but a narcissistic mindset ruins relationships. cuz the narcissist olds themselves above all

ah, you mean chuunibyou, honestly there is thin line between narcissism and chuunibyou, usually chuunibyou still be polite and learn their manner, and it'll grow out easily after 1/2 years, they only act like they're in anime/manga character after all, u could say its similar to emo phase in western, meanwhile narcissism usually quite hard to be fix/cure, they'll still had that kind of attitude even they're grew, a lot of them still will became parent and still had narcissism, i ever got caught in chuunibyou, and yeah i still think about other people, still quite polite, even my friends wondering why i still use formal word sometime to them even after we became close, u could say it just a rebellious phase

Now that's what you call character development😂

I mean idk abt that because alot of artists join popular variety shows to promote comebacks or dramas ect even if they are popular?

Lots of top of the industry groups still do variety shows to promote their comeback.

That may have been the case a long time ago but not now, they appear on variety to promote their comebacks or other activities. Now it's just a regular promoting strategy. Or they appear bc the PD or casts specifically requested/invited them. Honestly majority of the artists, actors and actresses are the reason some of these variety shows even maintain stable ratings but agreed you never know 100% how they are off camera

Honestly, I don't think that's the case. Variety shows have always existed to promote the celebrities, one way or another. And before social media, it was the only way fans could have content of their idols. Back in the day there was only the group/celebrity fancafe, nothing more. So they HAD to go to shows, the more the better. I remember that it was actually YGEnt, or more likely the idols from that company, that started this "we are artists, not entertainers" thing when they were invited to shows like Running Man or Infinity Challenge (I can't remember who actually said it, tho. It was too many years ago). They were classified as "VIP idols" after that, so people started to believe that idols that go to variety shows "to make a fool of themselves" weren't "real/good" idols like them.

​@@Lizzy_Kim I guess when you put it that way that is also true kind of but variety shows weren't always just to solely promote though back then. As you said it was also just how fans could be able to see their groups more and have some content especially before SNS, not really just for promoting. It was the best way for them to be known and seen by fans in general. I was mainly pointing out that these days it's mostly just to promote comebacks and/or new dramas bc now there are plenty of other ways to get extra content to fans that not everyone even sees the need to guest on tv network variety shows as often anymore when they're able to make their own varitey shows on online platforms instead. The only time I really think idols go on to boost their popularity is when they just debuted and need that exposure and interaction for content to gain fans. Other than that it's just promoting comebacks and other activities that are just starting up Artists going on variety show has stopped being believed as "making a fool of themselves" a while ago, If anything Artists who are going on variety shows or picked as fixed guest are thought to be really popular/fan favorites and making a difference in the shows viewer ratings now.

Hyorin as in Sistar’s Hyolyn? Wow, I didn’t know about that…

@Caleb theodore Gonzales ah, I get it now! Thanks :)

Yesssssss

The reason why I stay away from fandoms...

@@prikkeroglapper honestly same. I started to be a casual listener of kpop when I noticed how toxic kpop stan could be and it made me really uncomfortable 😟

ommggg seventeen is my ult group. more like...the only group i keep up with nowadays. and yes u are so right about this!

Yes 😭 and they also did their personality test on gose... It was not only like good traits 😭 my respect skyrocketed after that epi...

Agreed

hi, totally agree. could you tell me why iu's begginings are humble?

@@yutisima Yea, Kookielt even has a video about it! Basically her parents got really indebt and sent her and her live with their grandmother they had little to eat only potatoes and she grew up quite poor, she then lived with other family members (still poor) who heavily discouraged her dreams of being a singer and said she couldn’t do it basically she was very poor and now she donates lots of money to charities and looks after her staff and everyone who has helped her get to where she is today. We love IU

I disagree money and fame can get into anyone's head it doesn't matter if they came from a poor or rich background

I disagree with that. Iu has a very good personality so that’s why she’s like that. Look at Son Naeun, she comes from a wealthy family and has been taken care of since birth but she’s so humble and nice to staff and everyone around her just like Iu.. Same goes for psy, he’s a literal chaebol but takes care of everyone he works with. So it’s not because of the background but because of personality. People who have a good personality to start with will most likely just stay humble throughout their celeb life.

Somi is def a celebrity disease. She acting like she friends with bp members when they hardly hang out with her

@@Black_Girl_Central your jealousy is showing

@@ptskts9657 literally how does saying someone having celebrity disease and hanging out with someone means jealous 😭 y’all brain ain’t working properly

@@Black_Girl_Central how does hanging out with celebrities make her a celebrity disease?and you're acting like she's making their friendship up 💀 you blinks try everything to bring down others

@Tomie 🖤 they lacking brain cells, that why their faves are all flops

Lovelyz was the group Blady promoted with. People brought up Laboum mostly because of misinformation. (Also, it's just a personal opinion, but based on what Tina said, I don't think that girl was being an total asshole to the staff member. Sure, I get why it came off as not very nice, but I don't think she was being an ass on purpose.)

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Agree. At the same time we have to understand that celebs don't own us things when they are not working. I saw a lot of people getting mad at celebs for not accepting pictures, they don't have to take pictures with you if they don't want.

Exactly. We don't know these idols personally. Everyone in the comments saying "not my faves" are pretty naive.

... Lee Hyori was on top of her game when she caught the "disease". 2003 was her year. She literally won the Daesang at every award show that year, so she actually had the "right" to act like a diva. She got better after Fin.K.L. reunited and she realised where she came from. That's it. If Lee Hyori is "irrelevant", idk what 80% of the industry is.

He's kinda racist though especially towards Kai .

@@Nomnamnomm what that has to do with this topic??? also he apologized to jongin

@@Nomnamnomm fyi the word is colorist. baekhyun and kai are of same race.

I've no regrets stanning this man, he never disappointed me, okay only like once or twice (his past mistakes), but even then, I can tell that he's someone who wants to improve and work on himself. He's never really repeated his past mistakes, I can tell that he's most likely learnt. Only started stanning him this year btw, and he's my ultimate k-pop bias now! 😭 Whatever you said just makes me love him even more, and makes me feel proud that I stan this king! I'm still a little new to him, but I got so soft when I found out how he's always trying his best to interact with us fans on Twitter and KZfaq especially, it makes me happy knowing that he cares so much, and on top of that of course, he's so talented. He only encourages us to do good istg. He's my comfort person now. :"( (Sorry I just ranted about how much I adore Baek

Got7, BTOB, B.A.P'S yongguk, Zelo, Young jae, Daehyun and Jongup as well.

@@pastelpastry BTS , skz bangchan etc.

I think all jyp groups are humble and kind hearted with good personality

I agree. Many people have said that exo members are down to earth and humble people.

100% agree, i wish he brag more about his gigs and achievement

nah, I've seen many knetizen comments and they ADORE that girl, the ones who created most of the rumors and malicious videos are international fans, but in korea she's very very loved

She doesn't seem to have the disease . Lamo the girl just looks too excited all the time and misses the chance to greet people back . atleast thats what I've noticed seeing her clips .she's either too indulged into whatever is happening around her to miss the people who greeted her or is too awkward and does a tiny bow because she missed the chance

it really makes me sad seeing her get brought up especially for the bowing issue when it was shown in their next music show win that the backlash did get to them and wonyoung was even signaled by yujin to bow lower than usual. although im glad they learned their mistake, it irritates me how people bring it up all the time when it was a one time issue.

yeah. I mean, it’s the fan culture that feeds it. in this comment section alone every other comment is “luckily *my* bias never ever has done anything like because s/he bows and has said this one nice thing this one time on an interview!” they put these idols on such pedestals and for what/from what? tiny glimpses, curated images, performative personalities. no kidding that if thousands of people will defend you no matter who you are or what you do, it’ll get to your head fan culture around K-pop is scary as hell

That’s a good point considering how JYP boasts about how humble their artists are, but if that’s the case I don’t think they’d send her to reality shows considering that’s mostly all personality lmao. But I never thought about that, sometimes I forget that while she’s Black Label, she’s JYP trained

Quite possible too. The fact that she was included in the final line up of Itzy and yet was still cut out. Truly suspicious.

By being narcissitic at first add that in the sentence

Lol

Nice joke 👌 Joke of the decade

Why this is joke can I know please

@@taeyeongivesmewings7520 Cause there's a ton of sm artists with scandals and who are clearly full of themselves.

@@taeyeongivesmewings7520 there's a bunch of staffs exposed that there are very little idols in SM that have manners

did he say that in a podcast?

@@lulumimi yup

@@emmafrostnr.1fan662 do u know which episode?

Yeah i think not only junior but senior too.Some of them probably thinking they're so much better than junior group

Just cause he didn't wave just one time ..which was cause there was a problem with airport and he was instructed to go straight to car . You assume he is having attitude really. He literally apologized on weverse saying he is really sorry , and plus he waved while opening window

@@Kimtaehyung-le3nt it’s not because of the airport incident. everyone can see his change.

@@beababoopi where honestly I am not arguing or anything sorry if it feels like that way I really am ...but I honestly wanna know where you see the change.. please tell me maybe I am missing out on him

@@Kimtaehyung-le3nt i think taehyung has just glanced at people and walked off, multiple times. not just at the airport incident. he has done some of the things people with celebrity disease do and that’s why i personally think that

@@beababoopi my man literally came on live and watched run with us. y'all need stfu

Yeah so far from the many variety shows,realityshows and talkshows ive watch if its being humble and kind groups people seem to always mention at least one or two sm groups or artist.. Suju, Snsd are on top of the list tvxq too especially Uknow, Shinee and RV’s wendy too and many more. Example of these are when Snsd and shinee are the only one who didnt judge t-ara when they got a issue of bullying that wasnt true. Suju was the only one who acknowledged and bow to KARD this was mentioned by BM in their podcast. SNSD got an article of themselves for bowing 90 degrees to their hobaes even when they were at the peak of their careers that time the article was release. I also heard that RV took care of a fan on an event even when the camera wasnt rolling. I guess it’s because company like sm humbles you since its full of talented people. I must say though we can all agree that heechul got a narcissistic sickness in his early years and we all know that he grew out of it. 😂

Irene: 👀

You haven't heard about all the acting classes and personas before debut?

You sure? They are equally have entitled attitudes as westerns

there are many exceptions........

imho, cultural differences make big role here. Like, in Korea (or Japan or any Asian country), you should bow to greet people, call people used honorific, respect the older, etc. Public and media become really strict with artist's attitude since they see artists (or celebs) as role model. While in western, celebs have more freedom.

@@d.k.hapsari6030 South Asian** in Israel/Palestine people doesn't bow.

These people will bully kind people like Karina.. and jennie why ? But will defend their oppa till death

@@radhakrishnaputri6071 double standards .

@@radhakrishnaputri6071 honestly misogyny has a lot to do with it

@@radhakrishnaputri6071 honey which oppa you even talekin about. For what i have seen men getting cancel as much as women knetz dont see favourite geders

@@iwillhityouwithblackpinksl9879 hehehe good joke