YOU GUYS REALLY DO MAKE MY MONDAY MORNINGS, LOVE THIS PODCAST!

Dude I haven’t watched a podcast in awhile, Tim your putting on some LBs! Summers coming brother get on that carnivore game

Anyone surprised that the TRX 34 didn't even get mentioned? That's probably the first one that comes to mind...MFJJ even suggested that when he reviewed it

Josh and Tim have such good chemistry. The conversation flows so naturally. lot's of good insight and interesting comments. Thank you for the podcast.

My first bow and only bow to date was a 2011 Quest Hammer. Took it in to get new string put on in December (for the first time since I bought it), and made the mistake of testing a Lift while I was there waiting. I always scoffed at a new bows since equipment is only a small part of being a good hunter, and the Fred Bear's of the world had massively inferior stuff even compared to that Quest. The feel of that bow and the encouragement of my 14 y.o. son (massively into bowhunting and turned me on to you guys) burned a hole right through my credit card. Credit to you guys encouraging people learn and to work on their own bows as well led to the purchase of a press from podium archer (with the Tim C discount code) and here we go! Thanks for all you do and keep sharing that knowledge, it made a difference for me!

I think you're right about the target scene. Seems like barebow crowd are pulling more and more shooters because of the attitudes and friendly vibe.

Love watching you guys no matter the topic. Just a couple of dudes keeping it real. I've learned a fair but of information along the way too.

Great podcast keep ‘em coming appreciate all the knowledge and open minds you both have!

When are we gonna get a MFJJ vs Tim indoor shoot off ???

Really enjoy the podcasts you’re doing. Thank you both!!

Traveled from the Bahamas to get my lift from you guys, was an awesome experience. Also Josh really is as busy as he claims, dude never stopped moving while I was there lol

I have been shooting a PSE EVO NXT 35 for the last two years for hunting,3D and TAC. I am a Whitetail hunter and I have never had a problem in stand or ground blind. The forgiveness is awesome.

Love the podcast! Mfjj is awesome and a wealth of knowledge. Tim, keep at it and thank you for all the content.

Very enjoyable pod cast. Keep up the good work.

Seeing the popularity of the Lift, I'm so glad I snagged the 33 when I did. My shop had 5 of the 29.5's in stock the other day but they sell out of the 33's soon as they get them.

Like you said, Mathews marketing is miles ahead of anyone else. That and making a solid bow is what makes them the most popular. I personally hate their draw cycle but it's no surprise that they are the undisputed top dog in sales.

Love the pod guys. Keep up the good work.

Love the scramble idea! In case you do have some people clean up with 12s, a good tie breaker is a must. One idea is to have single arrow shoot offs. If you use the moose (iconic), have 1 person from each team shoot for score. Probs at distance. If each person shoots the same score, increase the distance and have a different team member shoot. That way the team has to strategize about which shooter shoots when. Do you start with the best shot or save them for a later distance?

Evo Evl 34: I bet the Go-Stix's would work great on the bottom front stab mount

That's what got me back to archery it's just fun to be able to aim and fire a good fast arrow 100 yards in the bulls eye or 76 or 110 I find it fun and so does my son.

Am I the only one that enjoys seeing how long it takes for the fan to heat up and spin? Then one of them noticing and taking it down.

I have noticed certain types of archers who know a little bit about setting up bows (especially their own) walk around with an air of superiority. I also know outdoor target archers who take FOREVER to shoot off ONE arrow on a 3D course, making everyone else behind them wait. I go out and have fun with much friendly ribbing and not taking it so seriously.

Mathews TRX 34 was a great hybrid. Would've been sweet to see a Title 34. I would hunt with that everyday of the week.

The winner is the guy that empties his first causing the looses bottle to hit the ground first. It is a great spectator event and lots of fun to watch. I may be trad but I like to keep up with the compound world also watch alone of compound stuff. Darren

Glad to hear bowtech is taking some heat to the pocket book for what they did to tim and kyle. That was slimey to do that to them late in the season after everyone had their contracts locked in... and glad to see Mathews being rewarded for the title....its an outstanding bow and what they did for Tim and Kyle is commendable. I can understand what you are saying about target archery.... to a degree. Maybe its different here in Canada because almost all our target archers are hunters too. When I got into the sport I was welcomed and helped by a ton of the local shooters. There is the odd stuck up person but they are almost known to the community, lol. It can be intimidating starting out because you see such hi-tech bows, but when you get paired up together in a group at a 3d shoot you are all best friends after 3 targets and no one cares about your gear or how you shoot. Its almost always good fun and joking around the entire shoot. The indoor statement may be because its a different crowd to some degree? I guess you get a bit more of that world archery recurve kind of vibe I think... The most stuck up people I have met in archery are often the super serious recurve shooters....they hate compound shooters and never miss a chance to say something against shooting compound .... But there are plenty of people that just love archery and enjoy shooting every style. Its all just sticks and strings and no one style is better than the other. Maybe I will get a different vibe when I head to lancasters indoor shoot. That will surely tell me if the indoor crowd is stuck up or not.

I think the perception of outdoor tournaments seem easier simply because a person doesn’t typically ruin their event with one arrow. As indoor it’s most likely 1 out and you’re done.

Excited for the fletching jig. You guys have inspired me to understand and work more on my own stuff! I have bought all the items necessary except the jig because i want to see what yours is like. Also when is the updated offset bar coming?

I like the golf scramble idea. I’ll come for sure

I love the idea of more fun shoots! We copied one of your videos for some of our Sunday 3D shoots.... If there's 4 of us shooting we choose one person's release for everyone to shoot at each target. It would be awesome to do a 4 person scramble where one release of shared for each target, or certain targets. It's a huge equalizer because you can have the very best shooter who always shoots a hinge and suddenly he has to make a 60 yard shot with a wrist rocket ...

Great pod as usual

I'd love to see MFJJ do some reviews on old bows. Not sure how often the old bows come through the shop, but it would be cool to see reviews on the "old" state of the art bows and tell us why they were so good for their day. Have a good one legends 🎯

I just have to say thank you to mfjj because I’m learning everything I know about working on my bow!! And I’m saving my money to buy a phase 4 from the one and only, the man, the myth, the legend mfjj!! Also I wanna meet Connor! Lol I see myself so much in him 😂

One day I’ll be able to afford a target bow. That is the only reason I don’t have one yet. I do shoot an SS34 and it’s nice but I use it for hunting because I have a 31” draw length. And when they say it’s hard to get a bow to tune at long lengths, they aren’t lying. One day I’ll come up there and see if you or your staff could help me out getting tuned up. I’m always tinkering with stuff to get better. I got a home shop for myself, and have been making my own strings as well.

That fire was impeccable. Give it up for Tim. Starting to think y'all should switch chairs every other episode just to see who has the better record by the end of the year.

It would be soo awesome if you two could make it to Tennessee Tac! Shot with Brandon McDonald two years ago and had a blast. Hope to see yall there!

Always awesome!

MFJJ spot on as usual. Great pod men.

I like the fact that you are bringing up target archery along with bow hunting, I have been getting into target archery to keep myself occupied during the winter months. I have a few dilemmas with it, I currently can't afford a new bow and I shoot a lower poundage (45 pounds). What is my best options to make switching between target (larger diameter arrows) and hunting/3D (smaller diameter arrows for better distance). The best solutions that I have come up with is have a target sight and a 3D sight so they both stay dialed in, but it will be a pain to switch between them. Or stay dialed in on my hunting setup and then just slide down to whatever point to line up for 20 yards for my target setup. I have a trophy ridge digital react single pin sight.

Have the shoot, like a poker run? Then you have the random part and not necessarily the best wins ? Have some targets with cards and the end of the shoot best hand wins!

I bought the Go stix 2.0 for my Fortis 33, (which I use for target and 3D as we cannot hunt) it fits without the pockets interfering (keeps it from turning) sad part is it doesn't reach the ground while my 15" stab and the cam is on the ground. If you're going to make one, interchangeable length legs would be nice. Thought Snyder was hunting with the Ethos, he accidentally leaked it previously.

Don't be afraid of it cuz that's a hell of a way to do it. When I bought my first bow brand new at my pro shop I went in I bought it and you know you see him hanging on the shelf and all that and I thought I'd be taking it home like that day or something. No it was like a week to 2 week week cuz he had to get it build it and you know I'll give you mad props for that man and if I end up with some extra money and you have a lift available I'll fly my ass out there and buy it from PA

You might save yourself a few of the Lift Mod calls by listing it as a product on the website and making it "out of Stock" or "on Backorder". Some folks would read the description and not call to ask. Just a thought.

Archery golf is awesome. Playing on a golf course is how I did it growing up.

My local shop owner hates Dudley so bad he won't tie knock points on anyone's bow because John does it that way. He used to shoot against him. Lots of jelocy in the shooting community.

I am a traditional shooter. I go to a lot of trad events in multiple states. One event we do is similar to your water bag thing is water bottles. You have a T post with a pully on each end of the T with a bottle on a rope that goes up over one pully over to other pully and down to other bottle. The loser is whoever bottle hits the ground first

Would be interesting to hear the take on previous versions of target bows like the trx34 if you can find one vs a lift 29.5, where price points are close and the features aren’t both using the same feature updates year over year. I have a v3 27” which i jumped from a mission hammr that was my first bow. Huge upgrade but I’m now considering moving to a longer ata bow and am not yet sold on overall ata length over “latest and greatest” features in a slightly longer hunting marketed bow

Scramble would be awesome. Maybe make it the worst arrow of the group.

Just getting into target bows. Would love to see some target arrow builds. I have a Reckoning 38” with a 30” draw.

Pse shootdown pro. A great choice.

Isn't it crazy as we get older what we care about getting out of something used to be about winning and being the best and I still like to be the best or at least my best as I can be. But it's about enjoyment and having a good time as I've grown older now. I'm 37 not ancient or anything, but I'd like to start enjoying the things I do, especially with my kids and wife

Hey Josh and Tim, have an idea for a fire side chat topic. It sounds like the Spokane Valley Archery Shop, and your relationship with the founder, your father, was quite a story. Maybe you’d like to open up and tell us the details someday? I bet it’s a good story, and who hasn’t had a tumultuous relationship with their father at some point? Knowing the back story of the shop might continue to grow your loyalty and support out here? Keep up the good work you two!

Orange crocs! Outstanding - I'm no longer alone!!! (wife n kids got me some for Christmas, too - match my Omnia...) Also : Grow the beard back Tim!

The Athens Target bow looks interesting since it's priced around most top if the line hunting bows msrp, a review of it would be nice, a little long at 38" for what I would want though

I would love to get a Trx 34 in the future and use it for target and a back up hunting rig for my phase 4.

Redline is coming out with Bride Lock in 2024 . 3 pin slider and stabilizer bar.

Darton veracity35 is probably the best true hybrid on the market right now

Would love to see more guests!

I have yet to meet a duochebag snob at any of the 3D's I've done over the years. Must be a West Coast thing. 😅 J/K Love you guys. My hunting rig is a V3 31, and my backup/3D rig is a TRX 34. If Mathews never made the TRX 34, then I would have gone with the Traverse. That was and still is a great bow.

4 man team, must count 2 per set. Shoot off goes to the team, all count. Include a KYL target where teams can push it or loose it

LMAO @ Ashy Love the Capt'n Choice analogy

PSE Shootdown Pro is an awesome crossover platform.

If you guys did an event i would definitely cross the state to participate. I would love to learn from you.

PSE SHOOTDOWN PRO!!! Ultimate crossover bow!!!

I think I had the same pair during my 4 day stay in the clink.

Josh as humble as possible, "some randomness over let the best man win" for a shot off says don't just give him the Victory hahahha

Murer’s would be there! You could have different classes, mixed classes, family classes, out of state, etc

I've never shot target archery before, but I have always wondered why no one has ever produced a dart board style target face so people could play dart games with their bows. That could be alot of fun!

The Mathews thumb knuckle callus is real

Great content, but a few guest would be great. I would have Dan Staton as your first guest. Then maybe Dan Evans and then, Tom Price. He lives right there in Spokane.

Come to TN. We’d love to have you.

Scramble would be great. Get to compete inside your group for most points but low pressure because it’s just your group. But then your group is also competing against others. Would love that.

That is a good idea a scramble best ball played in this case best arrow your on to something

Let's go MFJJ , we need universal MFJJ bi pods. PSE drive nxt ? 😂

I got my trx34 for a hybrid 3d bow.. Still need to pick up a sight if i can ever decide on one lol

I like the scramble idea but do a 5 spot "Handicap" round to set team base handicaps. That way it stays competitive with groups of non target guys. Then teams will balance themselves a little better just like in the golf world.

I’ll be honest Josh I don’t think that I’ve ever experienced anything like you’re describing in the Eugene area. I found the community to be nothing but welcoming and help. Maybe different up in Washington?

I think you guys hosting a 3d shoot would be a great idea and time.

I'd be down to do a scramble!

Now that’s a 🔥…. 👊🏻🇺🇸🏹

Shoot off idea, unknown distance with no rangefinder’s

Did anyone else look at Xpedition? I thought their colored cams added a cool look to their bows.

Minute 3:25 Just say “black” 🤷🏽‍♂️ Love you guys so much, but it’s ok to call someone black or brown if they are indeed black or brown. Great conversation by the way.

that SVA sweater is TIIIIIIIIGHT

The PSE Shootdown Pro is marketed as a hybrid bow and is also an exceptional bow compared to the Supra

Shoot the floating ping pong ball at 20 yards it challenging

You can still get a Mathews TRX 34. To me thats the best hybrid bow.

Tim! Will you make it to the Michigan Crystal Mountain TAC Event?

Im about to dremel the riser to get some relief on my knuckle, i tape it up before i shoot and its still rubbed raw

Long range wood chuck target

What about a trx 34 i was checking them out a lil being from pa i gotta be 34 at max ata. But still love my tac and 3d shoots, are they still available?

I would love to get in on that

Question: any chance you guys can talk about different set ups for the shorter archers? I’ve been in the archery game since I was a little kid maybe 6 or 7 years old to now 35, mainly target shooting and 3D with a little bit of whitetail hunting. And lately my focus has been hunting. Can you guys elaborate on hunting set ups and arrow configuration for someone with say a 25” draw. The arrows are shorter and stiffer and speed isn’t there like a 30” @70# just an idea as I haven’t found anything on here focused towards short dudes. Thanks again and keep up the amazing work!

I'm hearing the lift is really finicky with tuning from my local shop and a number of customer complaints, is that a different experience then you're having at SVA? Just trying to understand the discrepancy between MFJJs glowing reviews and my local shop.

Your thoughts on drop down rest for 3d. I have yet to see a pro use one ???

You know its cold when MFJJ has shoes on 😆

Cool shoot off would be the milk jug shoot. First person to drain all the water out of it wins.

I feel your pain about the size 15 shoes.

Not to talk y'all's head off but y'all need to check into whitetail draw hunts in Oklahoma archery camp Gruber military base great hunt I worked there for 6 yrs huge bucks and other draw hunts we need to get y'all's message down south plus making friends and have some great hunts just a thought. Spread that word in person sometimes great podcast later

I have found the outdoor 3d field to be worse than the indoor groups. At 3D events local and national I have had people look at me weird, say I'm shooting up too high of a class, say I should get a longer axle to axle bow, and alot of other negative stuff shooting ASA events. Then I will shoot even or up and gain their respect later by shooting a short ATA hunting bow in ASA. What they don't know is i shoot all the TACs, R100, and MAF events. I shoot a title 38 now though and will wreck them this year. Going into it with a hunger this year.

You guys have so many other KZfaq people that support y'all and you know. You could do a draw and 1 KZfaqr in each group. Kinda like you get one good shooter in each group. But a blind draw would make it fun and fair. Just my 2 cents. Then the benefits of meeting new people.