The OverDrive guys debate which teams could realistically be in on trying to offer sheet Mitch Marner.
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@CdnElJefe5 жыл бұрын
Leon Draisaitl’s $8.5 per is looking pretty good about now.
@botch96795 жыл бұрын
As long as he keeps it up this coming year, or if it was just a fluke year.
@epicphailure885 жыл бұрын
And they could have got him at 7M per season.
@Michael-pg7rv5 жыл бұрын
That dumb contract started all of this mess
@m4strqwief6945 жыл бұрын
Botch Lol
@poopcrust34005 жыл бұрын
Ryan johanson got 8 that’s why drai got 8.5
@xhead755 жыл бұрын
Came for the clickbait. Stayed for the comments.
@scottsnowdon50235 жыл бұрын
Not sure why no one ever mentions endorsments.... Marner will make 4 X in toronto than he will anywhere else.... Hesalready got 4 major deals plus a half dozen smaller local brand ones.... He wont get that aywhere else.... Has the potential to dwarf his nhl contract.... Nobody talks about this....???
@jayjaycim5 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I have been thinking and saying. His endorsements in Toronto will only last as long as he is a leaf. If he moves anywhere else he will loose his identity and far more money than if he just stays put.
@gordonbgraham5 жыл бұрын
@@VacouverCanucks What's relevant is his 11M in Colorado wouldn't be as lucrative as his 10.5 in Toronto.
@jamesmiddleton53095 жыл бұрын
Irvine860 lol why’s it toxic? Because a lot of people give a shit? You’d much rather play in Florida where nobody cares about the team and you play in front of 3,000 people?
@gordonbgraham5 жыл бұрын
Irvine860 If he’s scared of the pressure of playing in Toronto then he’s hardly worth 11M. Kessel likes Toronto.
@jamesmiddleton53095 жыл бұрын
Gordon Graham lol exactly. If you’re scared of pressure or adversity, you’re probably a loser who’s not gonna win much of anything in your career
@colinburgess55595 жыл бұрын
Enough TSN I’m sticking with The Hockey Guy
@EXILEvenom5 жыл бұрын
👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
@nicktarnowski70695 жыл бұрын
Hockey guy is a loser
@JackEBoy-el4hs5 жыл бұрын
@@nicktarnowski7069 I stand with Hockey guy hes the man
@selubria5 жыл бұрын
FAX
@ryans4135 жыл бұрын
At least Shannon knows what he talking about these guys on TSN are terrible
@nikantropov31655 жыл бұрын
Marner wants to get what his father thinks he’s worth
@jrcanuck15 жыл бұрын
What his father knows he’s worth, when you consider what the Leafs paid Matthews.
@nikantropov31655 жыл бұрын
Josie Whales more than McDavid and Kucherov ? Keep dreaming buddy
@jrcanuck15 жыл бұрын
Nik Antropov, that’s not always relevant. It depends when salaries were negotiated. Many players in the NHL make more than Crosby, which shouldn’t be the case either. Marner wants what the Leafs paid Matthews, which he deserves, if that is the new bar that the Leafs set. Blame the Leafs for overpaying Matthews, not Marner for wanting as much.
@barry8315 жыл бұрын
Who wrote the title of this vid??
@chad_b5 жыл бұрын
I know I had to read it a couple of times
@skyscraper59105 жыл бұрын
lmaooo trueee
@mattcampbell89395 жыл бұрын
man im bothered TSN! they have such outrageous and ludicrous tittles. I wish you could still put comments on their website.
@blibdoolpoolp5 жыл бұрын
Someone who got paid
@Mag1c4lyfe5 жыл бұрын
TSN
@noahnorris255 жыл бұрын
6.5 for Pasternak looks pretty good right now.
@roberthulett85005 жыл бұрын
noah heaven it never looked bad
@treetree1175 жыл бұрын
noah heaven Pasternak must cry every time a new contract is signed.
@KurdTillDeath5 жыл бұрын
this video is why i watch The Hockey Guy... This vid is just 3 leafs fanboys gossiping and that's coming from a leafs fan
@bjornsundstrom49155 жыл бұрын
Words^^
@tylerladouceur60905 жыл бұрын
hockey guy is the best. been watching him since he had only 8 thousand subs
@atarileaf5 жыл бұрын
He's just a fan. Nothing special. Everybody knows a guy like him. Might as well go to hockeybuzz you'll get the same vapid nonsense in their comment section
@adamsteele61485 жыл бұрын
Shannon is the shit! The good shit!
@tdemko305 жыл бұрын
The hockey guy is #1
@hendersontim69035 жыл бұрын
O dog seems like he'd be a mean drunk lol
@jamiestotz73155 жыл бұрын
hes got that sour puss look, doesnt he? he always seems put out, like hes above these conversations. thats the job buddy!
@KillingAhhs5 жыл бұрын
henderson tim definitely doesn't look like he'd be a fun drunk like Brett Hull
@hannabis805 жыл бұрын
He's a fat nick kypreos
@mattcampbell89395 жыл бұрын
This is the problem with 365 day hockey coverage. They make huge deals about nothing. Marner is going to get signed. There will be no offer sheets. This is what you call making a story out of nothing. The same could (but shouldn't) be said about any other unsigned big RFA.
@mattcampbell89395 жыл бұрын
@@Irvine860 sounds like personal bias but when he does ill try to remember to remind you how delusional you and other people are.
@pulzod5 жыл бұрын
Do they really think people like Aho, Point, Laine and Rantanen aren't looking at the Matthews contract and saying, "that is what I want"?
@hillsidebliss5 жыл бұрын
You guys repeated same three or four different sentences that entire video. I’ll never get that time back and now my wife’s leaving me. Thanks a lot, TSN.
@nicholasluis64825 жыл бұрын
Manifested Logic I feel you man , my girlfriend’s pissed at me because I was ignoring her while watching this
@canadiantraveller2815 жыл бұрын
My wife went to the candy machine in the hotel....
@aai36615 жыл бұрын
Guys...thank you. The most sensible piece on this whole thing I've seen yet. This is why I seldom bother watching segments unless there's a couple former players on them. Some media guys seem to crave the camera and attention and the hell with ethics. I won't watch anything with Darren Drager.
@SonnyDlicious4 жыл бұрын
I met Dregs in person.. he's a super cool and down-to-earth real Canadian. Now you want to talk about a loud mouth attention seeker, look no further than STEVE DANGLE. The guy admitted that he just put on skates no more than a couple of weeks ago.
@daddytubewatches5 жыл бұрын
Dude in the middle" like" um " like" ah " like"
@tylerrobertson18595 жыл бұрын
O’Neal sounds like marner cheated on him
@tomp68795 жыл бұрын
I agree on Austin Matthews being way overpaid. There are so many players who do just as much if not more and get paid a lot less. Leafs have always overpaid/overtraded for players. Thats on them and the Matthews/Tavares deals are gonna kill them. He isnt a comparable. He's an anomaly. Should have paid him a lesser bridge, see what he does, and then pay him. 21 year olds thinking they're worth 11+ million..
@jtnauss10 ай бұрын
Matthew's is one of the top 1st line centers in the league, who a 30 goal season is a down year for, and is very good defensively, to the point he's usually in top end of sellers votes. Your tripping
@Whippets5 жыл бұрын
What teams fail to understand is that the pecking order on a team can have just as much, or more, of an influence on a player's salary demands as what other players are getting throughout the League.
@ianpavv20405 жыл бұрын
god i hate toronto media
@SonnyDlicious4 жыл бұрын
9:20m my boy Noodles nails it and makes the ultimate prediction 👍 Got to love this show
@khanna17175 жыл бұрын
I was getting worried that something bad happened at TSN. I hadn't seen a story about the Leafs in about 15 minutes and thought something bad had happened.
@conallross16945 жыл бұрын
Kevin Hanna I loved the comment they made about not hearing anything about Point for offer sheets or anything I'm just like YEAH THATS BECAUSE YOU GUYS ONLY REPORT ON THE LEAFS
@rugheadedporchmonkey4 жыл бұрын
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! that's why I can't support Toronto, way too much Toronto coverage on a team notoriously known to die in the early rounds of the playoffs let alone MAKE the playoffs!!
@SonnyDlicious4 жыл бұрын
Well that's what happens when you live in the hockey Mecca of the universe! Go Leafs Go. Don't worry Calgary, you guys will always have the stampede 🏇
@khanna17174 жыл бұрын
Yup! No Cup in over 50 years but you guys will always have the Raptors.
@SonnyDlicious4 жыл бұрын
@@khanna1717 yep. The only functioning city in Canada with real money. that's why there is only one NBA franchise here. Only one MLB franchise here, and only one Canadian hockey team that doesn't have to struggle 💪
@jazzyethan5 жыл бұрын
Great takes boys
@peterlue92745 жыл бұрын
These guys were saying he was a 12 mil player and pumping his tires so now he thinks he is worth that.
@bauer4445 жыл бұрын
Peter Lue I would pay him 12 million a year then play him 50 minutes a game.
@austonboston4361 Жыл бұрын
Mitchy is worth 18 big ones
@poejavelski1485 жыл бұрын
This is getting to be worse than the Nylander discussions last year.
@nneichan93535 жыл бұрын
Thanks, guys for a rational discussion!
@bubbles31615 жыл бұрын
Raptors would be a good fit for Marner .
@joshapplebaum96695 жыл бұрын
Vancouver is a very interesting option potentially in play here they have cap space, ability to create more space, and a plethora of young talent at the NHL level and in the system, plus management is dead set on being playoff bound.
@injunsniper5 жыл бұрын
Toronto thinks all there players are worth 10mill+ and score a point a game
@scar94545 жыл бұрын
injun sniper grammar, their not there
@injunsniper5 жыл бұрын
Messi Is Food grammar was out the window a decade ago this is the internet
@justanotherguywithoutamust88375 жыл бұрын
sniper sniper doesn't make you sound like any less of a illiterate jabroni
@mattcampbell89395 жыл бұрын
@@justanotherguywithoutamust8837 Toronto as in the team or the fans? Why would either want their players salary that high? are you high?
@Nukahwhat5 жыл бұрын
Matt Campbell he means toronto as in toronto media
@80zforever5 жыл бұрын
Ask Dubas why Marner wants Austin's money. Rookie GM at his best.
@leafs345 жыл бұрын
80zforever dubas has been pretty solid so far, to horrible deals that Lou made yet. So be quiet
@Ryuzakku5 жыл бұрын
@@Irvine860 Tavares contract is fine, Nylander we will see.
@80zforever5 жыл бұрын
Solid as signing William Nylander? 54 games, 7 freaking goals, 20 assists, 27 points and a +--4? Here's a reminder for you so be quiet: The first season carries a prorated $10 million salary that comes out to $6.77 million, including a $2 million signing bonus. That means it has a current season average annual value of $10.2 million. The "out years" of the contract after this season carry a cap hit of $6.9 million. LOL
@leafs345 жыл бұрын
Irvine860 Tavares got what he deserved and took a discount, visually doesn't look good because we have unsigned stars. And you can't judge the nylander contract off of 1 half season. Statistically speaking nylander was just as productive as marner in driving play in the entirety of their elcs. They're not far off. I honestly wouldn't be that surprised if they are within 10 points of eachother next year if Babcock uses nylander right.
@blap56305 жыл бұрын
80zforever dude nylander had back to back 60 point seasons before this last one. Yeah, he didn’t do so well, but he also played half the season. Show some faith. He’ll pick it up next year.
@noahraymond91365 жыл бұрын
Mitch Marner is an incredible player, but is not worth anymore than 9.5 million. He's not a centre. Wingers just aren't payed that much at least not yet. He isn't worth more than Kucherov I'm telling you that.
@skyscraper59105 жыл бұрын
what about Patrick Kane?
@FrostyEagle5 жыл бұрын
@@skyscraper5910 3 time stanley cup champion and art ross, conn smythe winner? How can you even compare that
@skyscraper59105 жыл бұрын
@@FrostyEagle Exactly why I think paying mathews, marner ~11.5 mill each and Nylander 7 mill is ridiculous. But alas, now are different times as the youngins are using RFA as leverage for their cause.
@noahraymond91365 жыл бұрын
@@skyscraper5910 They aren't comparable
@odoaceroftheneoromanempire71785 жыл бұрын
noah raymond Eichel is making 10.5 million and has never had 90 points like Marner... Marner is 10.5- 11 million easy. Leafs should have never made Matthews the 2nd highest paid player in the NHL. Matthews isn't worth it.
@WilliamMccormick-lt2wl9 ай бұрын
What was maple leafs offer to marner
@blackberryboldjeff5 жыл бұрын
Lou "Here's a 6.8 million dollar contact for the twilight of your career (Marleau) or 4.5 million for a unknown KHL defenseman (Zaitsev) for 7 years" Lamorielo
@gazingatmars5 жыл бұрын
I know those are two stinky contracts!!
@BlayneTylerFindingSasquatch5 жыл бұрын
They forgot a couple of summers ago Leafs tried to sign Marner with a long term lowball offer.
@Harosho5 жыл бұрын
Blayne Tyler 8.5 a few summers ago wasn’t a lowball offer
@djp13635 жыл бұрын
guy in the black polo is the only one with logic
@blap56305 жыл бұрын
Dylan Pero hes a former player so he kinda understands a bit more
@ryans4135 жыл бұрын
Guy said Mark Stone got 9.5 Marner should get 9.6 cause he’s worked harder. Dum ass every player works hard any good player grinds it out too.
@blap56305 жыл бұрын
Ryan Scherbluk well marner had a better season than mark stone
@thedriver54625 жыл бұрын
He did but situation is different. There was less stars at Vegas when Stone was signing his deal and basically they wanted him as a leader in some kind of way. Marner is in whole different situation. He is already in stacked team (well not defensively lol) but Toronto has more stars. In order to play with them and to stay in Toronto, he should be more realistic and also ready to sacrifice 1-2 millions per year. Look at what Karlsson did in Vegas. He accepted 8 year deal, 5.9 per year but if he decided to go elsewhere he could have gotten more money, probably around 7 mil. But he wanted to stay in Vegas and with his teammates and only way to do so was to get less money. Of course I am not comparing those two players, just situation in which they are/were.
@jaylew8895 жыл бұрын
The question was who could make the offer then you kept saying would he go
@ambientescape83505 жыл бұрын
LOL. O'Neil always looks ready to drop the gloves.
@rickrazack61865 жыл бұрын
Kyle Dubas is to blame for all of this. How do these guys want Stanley cup champion money and they ain’t even made it out their conference? This is insanity, I say you let him leave and restart
@ColeTalksHockey675 жыл бұрын
I think Point is getting an offer sheet too
@brandonwilley46895 жыл бұрын
Cole Veasey doubtful Tampa can afford to sign him
@daymonb22175 жыл бұрын
Talk about good deals, David Pastrnak $6.6M per year for the type of player he is is cheap. But he said he doesn’t play for the money which is a steal for the Bruins
@mikekerr57545 жыл бұрын
It should never be about the money! For the love of the game!
@jameskilgour3875 жыл бұрын
Just another reason why the guy is one of my favourite players
@onebuffalo54025 жыл бұрын
his agent shoulda been fired. Even at the time of him signing he signed 1-1.5 mill BELOW his market value. His agent is atrocious.
@jameskilgour3875 жыл бұрын
@@onebuffalo5402 Or he just wanted to give his team an advantage and doesn't really care about money...
@onebuffalo54025 жыл бұрын
@@jameskilgour387 News flash princess no one who is a professional athlete doesnt care about the money. If bradys wife wasnt worth 500 million dollars he wouldnt have played for 1/3 of his actual value the last 7 years. some may say they dont care about the money. But they do.
@crosschexxsports28955 жыл бұрын
The New Jersey Devils is the answer to the question
@NothingToPointOut245 жыл бұрын
Yep. Begins and ends with the Devils. 2 weeks ago I would've said no chance, but after the Subban trade, its clear they are going for it while Hughes and Nico are cheap. Some turnover coming in the next season or two with Greene, Zajac and maybe Vatenen coming off the books too. Giving up the 1st rounders would suck, but if they are picks in the 20's it would soften the blow. Marner would give the Devils an insane top 6 for the distant future.
@giantsfan1855 жыл бұрын
As a Devils fan, he'd be great to have but I'd pass. They have too many smaller forwards as it is in their top 6. Gotta add some size and physicality.
@matrimcauthon18505 жыл бұрын
I hope the devils go after someone else who won’t cost 4 first rounders in RFA maybe Connor or Meier.
@ChrisLamia5 жыл бұрын
Fuck giving up 4 firsts for anyone who isn't McDavid
@anthonyz13275 жыл бұрын
No no no, Marner already has attitude issues. Were not going to give marner 11 mill for 5 seasons when we could feasibly give another guy an 8mil for 7 years and have an excellent 2nd line lw
@gcmgome5 жыл бұрын
As I said when JT was signed: the 2018-19 season Leafs are the best team Toronto will be able to ice for the foreseeable future. Unless of course Dubas wakes up one morning and realizes that one of the contracts held by Tavares, Mathews, Nylander and presumably Marner has to go. On that note a lot of defensive help could be gotten for a package of Nylander and Brown.
@xrpbodyguard5 жыл бұрын
We'll take him here in Vancouver!
@-TurboS5 жыл бұрын
DawsonHills he’ll be nasty with pettersson
@xrpbodyguard5 жыл бұрын
@@-TurboS wouldn't that be a hell of a line with Boeser or Horvat
@stevocanuck5 жыл бұрын
he would look good in a canucks jersey
@thestlouissniper90895 жыл бұрын
All of the Blues contracts besides Allen's and Steen's look good right now.
@paulthompson87935 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why anyone is even having this conversation , no team is giving up 4 first rounders and paying this guy 11+/yr.
@michaelwou16675 жыл бұрын
Mystic Phoenix Tampa can do it if there is no cap. What’s 4 x 28-30th pick every year for them?
@ricketycricket82755 жыл бұрын
I hear Marner is going to the Lakers with Lebron
@barryhead66685 жыл бұрын
If Mitch Marner Signs an offer sheet from another team the Maple Leafs should not match because it's means he does not really want to be a Maple Leaf Look at Nitkia Kucherov numbers
@nickcicione84555 жыл бұрын
I think it's the other way around...
@leafs345 жыл бұрын
Nick Cicione no it's not the other way around, it goes bo h ways. Marner wouldn't have had the year he had without Tavares and vice versa. Also Tavares is known for getting people paid. He gave people he played with in New York nice contracts by playing with him. I don't see how he's worth more than kucherov. It's quite ridiculous if you think about it.
@marclacasse15 жыл бұрын
This is what's sad about hockey these days. It's not about the game anymore. It's about contracts, cap space, who gets paid the most, all that crap.
@RyanGilbert165 жыл бұрын
I wish lou was still running the team
@gazingatmars5 жыл бұрын
kinda me too, but hope I'm wrong!
@terdonwanna78534 жыл бұрын
lou should retire he overpays players
@dylandylan83805 жыл бұрын
Can’t really make a fair comparison of two guys contracts that had 36 point differential in scoring this year.
@jasonmohr65715 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea trade Marner. There's comparable players on better contracts then what he's expecting from the leafs. All the offer sheet talk is funny.
@paulkatsanos27694 жыл бұрын
New Jersey I can see offering Marner if they have the picks
@AlyssaHope5 жыл бұрын
Why did I click on this? 🙄
@xhead755 жыл бұрын
You thought, because it's from a long standing reputable sports network, that it would be worth your time and data. Then it wasn't. Welcome to fiery hell... Bathroom's down the hall to the left.
@dannyreynolds98005 жыл бұрын
alyssahope hey love ur channel and vids keep up the good work
@AlyssaHope5 жыл бұрын
@@dannyreynolds9800 thank you!!! 😁
@blap56305 жыл бұрын
Weird seeing you in the comments lol
@WilliamMccormick-lt2wl9 ай бұрын
Are they allowed to talk with other teams while under contract
@das87715 жыл бұрын
Ask yourself honestly. How many points does Marner get without a top flight goal scoring centre on his line, now ask your self how many Matthews gets without star wingers? That's why you pay Matthews more.
@natefoulon5 жыл бұрын
I've been saying it since day 1 , no other team is going to offer 10.5 plus mil and 4 first rounds for him , would be suprised if someone offers 10 mil and 2 first rounds but maybe, so he will get around 10
@austonboston4361 Жыл бұрын
He's worth 15 large & 8 1sties
@nathangxfr5 жыл бұрын
Marner staying in Toronto. He won't even consider signing an offer sheet unless it's in California or New York. Because he makes tons of money off endorsements for being the city of Toronto's younger brother. He's easy to market, he's a superstar, the media loves him, and the city loves him. If he leaves, he'll be going to a non hockey specific market, he'll matter less, and the city won't care, because no city likes hockey like Toronto does. He will have all of those endorsements go away, because there'll be blood in the water from him leaving Toronto. And if he goes to California or New York, he'd be far from the most recognizable superstar there. Todd Gurley, Philip Rivers, LeBron James, Noah Syndergard, LeVeon Bell, etcetera. So it'd make no sense to leave unless Toronto slams the door, and the Rangers want to give you max.
@michaelwou16675 жыл бұрын
Sir Funt What if it is Montreal, close to the family. Canadian endorsement will still be there for him.
@nathangxfr5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwou1667 Smaller market, angry fans (which would turn off endorsement), and a harder market to impress. Not a better look than what he has.
@michaelwou16675 жыл бұрын
Sir Funt trust me Marner puts up the same numbers he is putting now in Montreal and plays hard, he will be a god there and make that endorsement money. He is currently endorsed by Scotiabank, that’s not a Toronto bank so they would still market him.
@tommymoritz60525 жыл бұрын
Marner’s almost definitely staying in Toronto, but the one thing I don’t get is that when pitching for Tavares, Dubas apparently laid out a plan for JT on how he will keep the core together long term, but one year later his plan fell apart.
@ricketycricket82755 жыл бұрын
Maybe at that point Dubas didn't think Marner was going to put up those kindof numbers
@austonboston4361 Жыл бұрын
...psssssssttt...the core is still together
@moonstatemoonstate5 жыл бұрын
Kucherov RW or Ovechkin LW in today's $value would be $12 mil min. JT as a Center would never have 47 without RW Marner. Talks about value of C vs W are unhelpful in current NHL.
@jberczi65 жыл бұрын
There isn't a team in the league that's willing to pay 10.7 (roughly the cut off for the highest offer sheet) and give up 4 first round picks. There isn't a player in the league that is worth that.
@jberczi65 жыл бұрын
@Tea Fresch The cut off is 10.6-10.7 m
@fredrik37355 жыл бұрын
William Karlsson taking less to stay in Vegas.. Dont know. Hope it doesnt come back to bite him
@nathanwoodcockn71845 жыл бұрын
Just based on how they were pitching it in the beginning, New Jersey is an option :/
@vincent67185 жыл бұрын
They won't
@jrcanuck15 жыл бұрын
This whole discussion clearly shows that the Leafs paid Matthews far too much money and they created this mess by committing to that contract.
@gazingatmars5 жыл бұрын
Matthews never should have gotten more than Tavares, a proven top center in his prime! They really did overpay. Matthews at 10.5 would have made Marner at 9.5 a lot easier.
@jrcanuck15 жыл бұрын
Miss Mercury, very true; except that if Matthews had gotten $10.5, so should have Marner.
@austonboston4361 Жыл бұрын
Matthews worth every penny
@bloodclots125 жыл бұрын
Why do you think Nashville traded subban? Marner is going there.
@derreckmason42135 жыл бұрын
do all these player that they are compairing marner to do the play the pk and pp and are always put out late to protect the lead i do not think so
@iamwhoiam84865 жыл бұрын
St. Louis has a ton of cap space.... they just won the Stanley Cup and can add a piece if they want to
@mamaji2775 жыл бұрын
In about 1 year from now, Nylander's $6.9 mil aav will look pretty good
@paulangelastro69885 жыл бұрын
Once they start playing him with Matthews again
@mamaji2775 жыл бұрын
@@paulangelastro6988 yeah he'll tally up a lot of assists with Matthews
@michaelwou16675 жыл бұрын
Montreal’s prospect pool and pockets are deep enough to offer 12 x 8 and don’t care of pissing off the Leafs since we are already rivals.
@gazingatmars5 жыл бұрын
Haha Marner in a Habs Jersey will never happen. Keep dreamin!
@sammy112320035 жыл бұрын
not marner or any other player in the league today is worth 12 million. the highest paid player should recieve no more than 3 mill. that goes for any sport out there. and that money shouldn't be taxed by the government!
@Jay-gi6oh5 жыл бұрын
LMAO, these guys are in shambles
@cedriclee71105 жыл бұрын
marner can ask for whatever he wants because dubas sucks and has gotten steamrolled in 2 negotiations already. In addition, for no reason at all dubas came out and publicly said he guarantees that he'll get all 3 guys signed. dubas just sucks at negotiating so the players are taking advantage of him.
@michaelkirkpatrick74835 жыл бұрын
This offer sheet stuff is waste of time. not going to happen. they ask high, they settle for less, it's made to look like a hometown discount, or marner told his agent to back off etc. probably in neighborhood of 10M/yr, which is a lot, but Skinner just got 9M, so that deal has raised everything. Best comparable to Marner is Rantannen in Colorado. At any rate, they need to wrap this soap opera up shortly after Canada Day, or it's another nylander type scenario...
@epicragegaming20165 жыл бұрын
hes going to NJ.
@gocanuckurself15 жыл бұрын
Leafsnet Oh wait
@CD-yr8twАй бұрын
This aged well.
@Froston15 жыл бұрын
So what about philly? They got cap space
@raychad50585 жыл бұрын
I think 8.5 for 5. Win win for toronto. Huge asset.
@ericnatusch76585 жыл бұрын
I love seeing toronto in disarray
@kennycai86955 жыл бұрын
Answer: I'd say Penguins fans, especially the Yinzer bunch (the term for the obnoxious Pittsburgh residents with their "championship or nothing" mentality), but Marner will have to take whatever was offered in order to join Crosby and Co, since the Pens don't have the cap space for that amount of money.
@jasontoshach69495 жыл бұрын
If Mackinnon, Matthews and Marner were all up for a contract right now, Mackinnon SHOULD get 3m more than the others. The other two are decent, Mackinnon is far above.
@stephendean51885 жыл бұрын
McKinnon is also older and people forget he had some pretty average years before he broke out the last 2 seasons
@hendersontim69035 жыл бұрын
@@stephendean5188 truth. He started to really flourish when duchene was traded
@ADB3585 жыл бұрын
@@stephendean5188 Mackinnon is only two years older lol. Matthews only had 69 points at the time of his signing. He played on a line with Nylander, who aside from this past season was a 60 point player too. The Leafs overpaid.
@Barley_runner5 жыл бұрын
Point is overrated, he plays on an all star line and PP.... most guys can get his numbers in his spot on the lineup
@kiiby_5 жыл бұрын
i hope i see Marner offer sheeted just to see all this Leaf media be shook, would be hilarious xD
@ChrisLamia5 жыл бұрын
Lou would be the least likely? I don’t think he’ll do it but an Offer Sheet is 100% a Lou move. That’s how we got Scott fucking Stevens
@Matthew-kc3rx5 жыл бұрын
Its really stupid that Marner and his agent got to choose who his comparable is they said that the only player that he should be compared to is Matthews and that he should get around the same amount of money but hes a winger and not as good and even when rantanen and Skinner got paid both wingers of around the same caliber he still remains stubborn and has decided that he gets to choose his own compatible like no tf u dont
@xhead755 жыл бұрын
Except he plays all the games, where Matthews plays like 60ish.
@gregnorsworthy54105 жыл бұрын
I tried finding a good comparable, the closest match was Tarasenko, and it wasn't $11-12m like all the experts are saying. $8.5-9m is perfectly reasonable for a ~ppg winger.
@leobruneau12565 жыл бұрын
Good point hes not the bestplayer in the league as a leaf fan
@jrcanuck15 жыл бұрын
Leo Bruneau, he’s as good or better than Matthews and that is exactly the point. Everybody wants to blame Marner; but it was the Leafs who set that high bar.
@hollymcneill85555 жыл бұрын
Two days with this title?
@m4strqwief6945 жыл бұрын
I guess no leaf is winning a cup. Cap situation before their first cup run lol
@giacintomatera93455 жыл бұрын
Toronto thinking that the world revolves around them again ,,,, Marner is yes playing a bluff , but don’t think that there’s not a handful of team that will make space on their cap to include a player of that caliber! 4 1st rounders is a small price to pay if you plan it properly and are on of the best teams in the league for a decade
@brenden97585 жыл бұрын
Marner wont be signed till December first.
@haysbrickell9579 Жыл бұрын
I heard Matthews is going to ask for measley $14 million. Toronto is in dire need of help at the top 2 LW as well as the blue line. I still don't believe Dubas should have been axed and cleaning house at the front office seems dubious at best.
@donovangermann0225 жыл бұрын
He would not get as much on any other team. He's better off to stay in Toronto where they over value their players.
@seanhiggins56075 жыл бұрын
It's not about over valueing if you were watching the video, it's Marners camp using Matthews as a comparable but no team has had to worry about that yet with the contracts they havent had to pay up yet
@donovangermann0225 жыл бұрын
Carnidge Candy contracts and money are all about value. What is someone's productivity worth = value to the organization.
@josephw39995 жыл бұрын
I feel like everyone just assume a team is going to have to give up 4 first rounders with their offer sheet. A team can offer Marner 10.1M X 5 years and only have to give up 2 firsts a second and a third. That would be hard for the leafs to match.
@norespect5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Woolley they offered him 10 x 8
@joeslater17665 жыл бұрын
Joseph Woolley they match that
@Waves32145 жыл бұрын
marner would not accept that contract. Marner has to accept the contract for him to be offer sheeted.
@biffstrong10799 ай бұрын
Nobody would pay them this much. They hooped their salary structure with these contracts and have never been able to add the players they need to win because of it. Never should have signed Tavares , should have gone looking for a defenseman like Alex Pietrangelo if they felt the need that early on for a UFA. Matthews and Marner should have been making around $9.5 million. Nylander actually got paid pretty reasonably. Better salary structure and you wouldn't be paying Morgan Reilly $7.5 million for another 7 years. $5.9 million for Karlsson was was too much 40-50 point player ever since.
@mightymacaque5 жыл бұрын
9.9- 6 years
@samoleary39945 жыл бұрын
Would u trade nylander to get marner
@terdonwanna78534 жыл бұрын
they should trade nylander to keep mitch and geta defence man as well
@aj4to1455 жыл бұрын
What organization would make an offer sheet of 11+ for Marner? How many teams are willing to pay Marner 11 million and give up 4 firsts for the privilege. What would that do to their salary structure? Just because leafs are willing to overpay doesn't mean other teams will. He was eleventh in scoring, in what universe is he worth more than all the players ahead of him other than McDavid?
@quinnhrynchuk65805 жыл бұрын
Winnipeg
@wadeanthony85385 жыл бұрын
..over paying mathews and nylander..foreigners.. top scorer local boy mitch marner moves on....leafs find a way to mess up a workable team...
@bradleyallen5335 жыл бұрын
As a Blackhawks fan, I always felt cheated that the Hawks were forced to drastically replenish after each cup win, unlike the 70's Flyers or Islanders, or 80's Oilers, or many eras of Canadian teams. So, now it is time to redefine what a dynasty is. However, my real point here, believe it or not, is to extend my condolences to Toronto and their fan base. Before they could even experience any glory, here they are having to tear their team apart. So, why oh why is Gary Buttman in the Hall of Fame? He's famous for two things now: a) Replacing 80% of the game's testosterone with estrogen so as to attract the supposedly skiddish and passive hypothetical "casual fan" and their pocketbooks; and, b) For "a" failing so miserably as a strategy that now we have a miniscule amount of fights and nobody can hold together a contender, thereby disappointing fan bases. I know some of the owners have colluded with Bettman (is it Bettman or Buttman) oh, well ... Still, the fact that this non-hockey person is in the Hall cheapens the NHL and HOF.
@TheCokee475 жыл бұрын
Marner's not flying anywhere. They are coming to him if anything.