As a fireman, this is facts. We get shit done.

Aren't lieutenants also on the ground?

Officers can be on ground to.

@@evanderpierznik Yes and Captains

@@evanderpierznik Yea because they need some type of field officer there with them but that's just to get the experience.

NCOs may be street smart but most e1s-e3s are just kids outta high school.

I would not say Officers are smart.The majority (general population) of officers have liberal arts or social sciences degrees. They majored in degrees that didn’t lead to any skills. They couldn’t cut it in the STEM or Healthcare majors. There are some officers who have a STEM or Healthcare major, but that is not the general population. Most Officers major in Criminal Justice, Sociology, History, Business, Administration, Health and Fitness (not a authentic STEM or Healthcare), English and Philosophy. Officer that come in with a degree think they are special because they have a resemblance of authority. But they can’t do much on the civilian side when they get out. There no opportunity except another government job, or if they majored in something that taught them an actual skill.

Not all officers are smart. In fact, the most I've met are no where as smart as enlisted. They just have a degree (shows commitment) and became shitty officers.

@@choncha23 going to go out on a limb and say you never served because this is objectively nonsense. You will find a significant number of officers with liberal arts degrees but in a job that is ever-changing, requires a high level of literary proficiency, and the ability to effectively problem-solve and think outside the box when it comes to the micro- and macro planning processes, that type of education is not lost. The combination of STEM and classically educated officers is necessary for the success of the corps. As for job opportunities, most officers can shoot straight into a well-paying middle management gig in the corporate or government world. Same concepts, new vernacular. Just like on the enlisted side, you’ll have your fair share of high performers, knuckle draggers, and everything in between. Officers are just higher vis so you notice the subpar performers more easily. Source: prior NCO, current officer.

@@paytonmogford784 I am sorry you break it to you, but I did serve --- US Army. I can tell you served because you remark on the same talking points every other career NCO or Officer spews. In your case, you happen to be both. lol. Jobs in the military are not ever-changing. Stop lying to yourself, please. A few MOS' translate very well to civilian life: IT, Healthcare, MP, Special Operators (private contractors), and pilots. I am going to define "transition well" for you. A MOS where the individual ETS'd yesterday and gets hired tomorrow, with a salary of 90k plus. This has to be done in the private sector, not another Government job. I will address your terribly constructed run sentence--- sentence number two. I will assume you have not left the military in a very long time. What you just stated is complete robot talk. It works well when looking good in front of the higher-ranking officers or the hungover junior enlisted. Nothing you said works in the civilian sector, right now. It might have landed you a job 20 to 40 years ago. Today, employers are looking for certifications, degrees, and years of experience. In that particular order. Unless you are a 35F. 35F's are the special unicorns. These motherfuckers can get a lot of fucking money and can jump to management rapidly. Oh lord... You have it completely wrong. Most Officers cannot shoot straight to mid-management jobs. The higher ranking (O-7 and above) can get mid-management jobs with a defense contractor. You are drinking the kool-aid. Officers transition well to another government job, but you do not start in management. It takes a couple years. The only thing the Military prepares you for is another government job. I know a ton of guys who are doing great who are pensioned, retired from the military, and working to be pension retired from their government job. They also receive a nice disability check from the VA. It's a good gig to have 150k in pensions/VA checks at 70. But I will say this: most of the guys I know who are like this are alone because they have always placed the job first and family last. Sure, they have a 2023 Corvette or EV Hummer. Most of these guys are at the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars). But for the most part, they seem happy. I would be happy too. Source: ETS'd from the Army in 2021 as Combat Veteran E4 King Shammer. But now, I am a Registered Nursing Student who studies at the VFW for free coffee and cheap beer.

in 1986 while stationed in Sicily with the US Air Force, right at the height of the Cold War, i made rank was promoted to E5 SSgt. it was at a major turning point because of being short and having to make a decision... re-enlist or get out of the war and go back to working for the family business to fill a spot because of my grandfather retiring. in the US Air Force, we had the Ground Launched Cruise Missile program and these were deployed across five countries throughout Europe. it's been almost 40 years now but i think we had six flights (platoons?) and my Officers kept asking me to go to sign up for OTS (Officer Training School). my justification for not enrolling in OTS was the fact i would not be effective because i know i WOULD NOT let Command endanger the safety of MY Troops. years earlier, one of my Flight Chiefs at Nellis AFB would stand in front of the flight at Guardmount prior to shift and say, "NOBODY fucks you but ME. i don't care if you're wrong; if they don't go through the Proper Chain of Command, THEY are Wrong. i will deal with you later." i always respected that philosophy of dedication and protection of the troops under your Supervision. eventually, i chose my biological family over my military family because of the politics of the time. it has been a decision i have regretted ever since.

You were probably the most useful as an E-4 too. Not to denigrate you, rather to chastise the political nature of the Field Grade and Flag ranks.

@@psychopompous3207 Well I did receive the Legion of Merit for my 30 years of service, a little more than answering pay call!

@@ralphgreenjr.2466 Lol, I hear ya. Damn Full Birds and their LOMs... The best I can do is a DMSM. Respect for staying in for 3 decades.

@@psychopompous3207 Thank you it was tough at times coming up through the ranks, as you are a bit of an outsider to the Academy grads. I got assignments others did not want. That DMSM, I bet anything you deserved it!

Cool story champ

Yeah it actually is

E6 here, you made the best of a bad situation. everyone can lead, it's just a matter of when they truly accept that role

Good take. I always disliked how the Army forces people to promote to failure. By this I mean that, due to Retention Control Points (RCP), you're pretty much forced to keep seeking the 'next level' even if you're not suited for this. This is especially true of the E4-E5 and E6-E7 jumps. There are a lot of good soldiers that aren't good NCO's and there shouldn't be anything wrong with that. Similarly, there are a lot of good SSG's that don't make good SFC's (or whatever the rank is in your branch). As a SSG, I really hated RCP because it forced me to promote Soldiers who I knew would be bad NCO's, but who were good Soldiers and didn't deserve to get kicked out of the Army for not promoting. The Army should give units a certain number of billets for long-serving enlisted personnel and junior/Staff NCO's that are good in their positions but just not cut out for the next level.

@@aesirgaming1014 oh they didn't force me, I did it willingly. I got out 3 years later as an E5 as well so I just had some growing up to do.

it's just a job like everything else. once you get used to it, leadership becomes 2nd nature

@@simunator Lol...no...it doesn't. Only if you care enough to have developed your leadership ability.

@@psychopompous3207 you only think that because you haven't been exposed to enough of it. you'll get there eventually, hopefully.

@@simunator E8 here. I have more then had my fill.

I love Enlisted, best people I've ever met. I am out now but thinking about coming back in, but I won't go back as Enlisted, I want to go Officer, I've seen the toxicity of senior Enlisted and I want to make a change, but I can't. Enlisted are there only to advise officers, they cannot, make a change. Sarnt Maj said stay in if you want to change things, and he's right and wrong. Stay in and go Officer if you want to change things. Enlisted is not the way to do it

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Worked in the Army medical clinic there and I had 0-5's and 0-6's, I was an E-4, constantly ask how I was able to live in that area. I always told them I lived within my means. Best job I ever had in the Army. Many of them actually lived in W.V., slept in their offices during the week and commuted home by train for the weekends. This was back in 87'.

I'm surprised they didn't delegate it to you anyway!

Retired LE here as well...I wish I had this info when I was in college.

Spent my career as an enlisted MP primarily in the reserves, but came from a family of almost all officers. Just before I ETS’s two of my cousins came by to visit both were at the Academy, one actually got In trouble her senior year and spent 2 years enlisted including a deployment to Iraq, the other had caught and now passed his older sister & was at my installation for OBC. The older sister was was already on orders back to West Point to complete her last semester. They asked me for advice. Take care of your troops but don’t neglect your mission. Remember that as an O-1 you’re essentially no different than a private, just better educated and older, and being in the Reserves even that’s not even always the case. As such listening to the PSG for the first year until they got their feet wet. The older sister has time as a troop so she will understand things that her brother (brothers actually because her other two younger brothers were still at the Academy) will never get, and predicted that she would be the best officer out of them family. Turns out I was right, she had more time in service and ranked higher than the other 3.

Fellow officer of the SAF!

Was a mortar dect commd back during NS. While my Mortar PC was busy running around and planning 80% of the time for missions and coordinating with the FO boys on the ground, my PS ran most of the ground work show. Often I find myself finding my PS for guidance and instructions before relaying it to my boys because my PC is busy "fighting fire" with the higher ups. Wouldnt want to add more work to him. So whatever you just shared about being the mediator.. Im sure my PC would relate a lot to it. Being a 3SG myself... It ain't that bad. Not complaining though. :)

In your last phrase, its opposite here in the Philippines. Majority of people somehow are military enthusiasts but could not get through volunteer service because of lack of quota.Armed Forces is low budget, I can only envy your military hardware.

This isn't to say that I regret my time in the SAF. I loved being a PS and am still close to my company command team till this day. I just wish that I had spent less time focused on the job and spent more time with my men. I really wanted to sign on but the understanding of the politics got to me. I understood that being on the ground (even as a spec), ends after your PS tour. You spend the rest of your time in staff tours until you hit CSM then RSM. It ends up the same as any other desk job and I couldn't take that. I love the SAF and I love Singapore, I just believed that I learned what I could from the army and it was time for me to move on. I wish the best to the regulars that I know, it's just not the life for me.

@@gladen4640 sup fam

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Issue is Warrant Officers don't exist, they're a myth. Ever seen one in real life? Exactly you haven't, and if you have it was an illusion your brain made up to justify the rank system. (sarcasm)

Total. Bullshit. 99% of all enlisted troops are absolutely capable of getting a commission. I worked for a Major who had a 4-year degree in music. He played the trombone. He was THE most incompetent sack of sh!t I ever ran across. Major Donald R. Nicklin. He's still out there.

It's not hard

If Westpoint doesn’t work out I subject doing rotc in college or commission with your home state in the guard and then transition to what you want afterwards because you can commission with 90 credits with your state or OCS after completion of your bachelors

Not true...there are many jobs far worse. I was both enlisted and officer. How is officer pay that bad?

What? I was an officer for ten years and loved it. Best "job" I've ever had, and all my NCO friends agree. (Serving isn't a job, it's a calling). Whoever "did" that article didn't know what they were talking about, and neither does anyone who'd believe such a thing.

@@honestreviewer3283 Really? What's about the military to like? The dumb paperwork? The nonsensical rules? The constant lectures about how you're the wrong sex/race/religion? The part where you don't do any actual fighting, run away from the terrorists, and call a drone strike? The part where we abandon the country we were supposedly trying to build up to the Taliban? Every day, I get up, and I go to work building electric cars. Not because I believe it'll help the planet, but because they're the only people out of thousands willing to hire me after the military got done using me. And because Barack Hussein Obama thought it would be a better use for my life than what I wanted to do with it. So much for freedom. Besides, even if environmentalism wasn't bullcrap, why would I care if the Earth burns? I won't have any descendants. It'll be the children of people who hate me who inherit the Earth. Screw that "calling" bullcrap. I heard it once and it led me the wrong way. And screw that Jewish God of yours that sends people on that path. It seems all he cares about is his tribe. Just like everyone else.

Well, I can tell you weren't in the military, or, if you were, you were there because you couldn't think of anything else to do and didn't take advantage of the many opportunities and career paths it offers. I was an officer for 10 years and was earning $100K at the time I resigned, and as a civilian I continue to get $100K+ jobs. Like so many on the internet, you don't know what you're talking about, and yet want to argue with people who do.

@@honestreviewer3283 Wow. You got the opportunities you asked for? Must be nice being a ring-knocker from a military family.

As a fellow Armor officer I can confirm!

No. NO ONE makes O-3 in two years. Outright lie. You can't even get the ranks right. 2Lt, and ILt.

@@dennissvitak148 During Vietnam yes! I have the orders to prove it!

@@jeb6704 I would buy your story as true. I have talked to many that in the Vietnam era got promoted fast. Now, without a war going on, it will take you probably 5-years to make 03. This has always been the case with the American army between peacetime and wartime. During wartime, the people in senior leadership positions who can't handle their jobs get dismissed and there suddenly becomes a lot more advancement up.

@@dennissvitak148 mannn I’ll throw u in the gulag and take YOUR rank capping ass😂

Yeah, easy for a specialist to get out of doing work than a lieutenant.

sous-officers (non-commisoned) ARE NOT the officers that are being talked about in this video. This video is talking about commissioned officers (I.e. Lieutenant, Capitaine, Commandant, etc)

A Non-Commissioned Officer, or sous-officer, is not a commissioned officer. I was enlisted, including NCO rank, for 10 years and then as a commissioned officer for 11 years. I also deployed alongside the French military, which I found very professional and honorable.

What hasn’t been fired yet and dropped only once? A French rifle 🎉 😝

mec va à l’université et puis va saint-cyr, tu seras diplômé et tu auras plus d’argent

The French have an Army?

@Sayin wat 0-2 at my unit has an arts degree and he’s a great leader.

Officer I guarantee there is a chance you are choosing between a triple salary

officer gives you more opportunities after service too

Im in the US navy a chief which is an E-7 who has on average 15 years in navy gets paid the same as a O-1 ensign who joined and went to the academy vs an E-1 the salary is 700 every 2 weeks which is on par with getting paid 2$ a hour

I enlisted in the USMC with a bachelor’s degree. I only stayed my four years, but I’m positive if I would have stayed in and become an officer, I would have been a better officer for doing so.

Also it Depends what type of degree you’re doing. If it’s something related to science such as computer science, biology or engineering or something relate between those two you could get career chances and opportunities once you’re in by taking special training.