What's the deal with Maokai? || character design & lore analysis

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In our continued exploration of the Shadow Isles we've reached a champion whose bark is probably not worse than their bite, but who actively use their bark to bite people. Probably. I mean it's not part of his kit or anything but look at those mouths he's got on him, I wouldn't wanna put my hand in that.
Er... anyway, Maokai is yet another of those very old champions who have been semi-awkwardly retrofitted into a modern League of Legends aesthetic with a lore that doesn't 100% match up to his character design can support.
Let's discuss!
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@eduardoserpa1682
@eduardoserpa1682 5 жыл бұрын
I love how violently loving of nature Maokai's personality is. I hope he gets a fitting visual update at some point. He's one of my favorite tank champions.
@farrrpa
@farrrpa Жыл бұрын
He is. He deserves so much care. I love his voice and I'd love him to have more lines to say too. Maybe undo the recent changes on his E/Q for starters.
@hyugo1359
@hyugo1359 5 жыл бұрын
we need a sapling short story :p
@moreoobservatory1869
@moreoobservatory1869 5 жыл бұрын
As a Mao main I've always wanted to see Riot work more on him. Especially the more monstrous appearance that he exudes from being twisted by magic. Like, I wish they wouldn't have him walking but have him still be rooted into the ground, striding and writhing on the ground as he lumbers like the tank he is. Some design decisions I won't understand too much like the whole face on the gauntlet thing. Twisting branches and the appearance of weight to his model would really solidify his role in the game and I would assume it would also help draw out the more monstrous approach to his design.
@ctgx7735
@ctgx7735 2 жыл бұрын
You got nothing is 2 years,but hey,they reworked him in the Ruined King game.
@farrrpa
@farrrpa Жыл бұрын
Yes! That too! The same way they did to Lissandra and the way she moves. Idk if they'll ever do that to Zyra too, but they should make Maokai and her better resolved designs and more unique, recognizable and interesting takes in "the tree that brings life in the middle of death" vs. "the force of nature who got angry towards mankind because of pollution, invasion, war and deforestation"
@thebraineater8030
@thebraineater8030 2 жыл бұрын
I do hope they add the version of Maokai we see in the Ruined King game into League. It looks so cool, and much more “Nature God-ly” than his current design.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 жыл бұрын
3:30: Does anyone else wish people didn't always associate "nature" with maybe two or three biomes? Nature isn't just forests and swamps and coral reefs; it's the dry deserts which no man sees point in crossing, the plains where megafauna fearless of hunters still roam, the open seas empty of boats and most fish, and yes, fields of stone and clay uncultivated by human hands. Nature isn't one specific thing, it's the absence of a very abstract thing. There are absolutely valid reasons to prefer an island covered in trees and flowers over one covered in rocks and sand, but "it's more natural" ain't one of them. 7:00: ...Isn't that the spring that a rotten corpse begging for death was just dunked into? Eww... 11:30: My first impression is more "wood golem" than "treant". (Heck, if you took away the color I'd probably think "stone golem" first.) That works for an artificial construct, but for a nature spirit...it should look like something _natural,_ not materials artificially deemed "more natural" deliberately shaped into a given form by human-like intelligence, you know?
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 жыл бұрын
Also, random aside: Does anyone else think the vengeful, tortured ghost of the Ruined King's wife could make a neat champion? She'd fit well with the "driven to commit violence by past trauma" theme the rest of the Isles seems to be riffing on.
@hokimaki1234
@hokimaki1234 5 жыл бұрын
@@timothymclean she's the maiden of the mist, Yorick's ult.
@darkomihajlovski3135
@darkomihajlovski3135 5 жыл бұрын
I think the king and her should come together like a Rackhan and zaya but instead of doing things for love they do things for anger like she hates him for what he did to her witch makes him angry so he does more damage or something
@midgetthingers6360
@midgetthingers6360 5 жыл бұрын
I want T B Skyen's short explanation story of what Maokia is to be animated.
@creepymilk571
@creepymilk571 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to do it.
@handsomejack6952
@handsomejack6952 Жыл бұрын
​@@creepymilk571 did you do It?
@antonisnicolaou9212
@antonisnicolaou9212 5 жыл бұрын
Btw Twisted Teeline got reworked in 2012. Before that rework, it was Zaun themed.
@eitanezra8963
@eitanezra8963 5 жыл бұрын
Antonis Nicolaou pic or it didn’t happen
@antonisnicolaou9212
@antonisnicolaou9212 5 жыл бұрын
@@eitanezra8963 well u can also go research it for your self in the league of legends wiki but ok here ya go (also the map supported to be the the sewers of Zaun): pm1.narvii.com/5767/974e7866057d73318f52fd2d8022216bb2bafe7a_hq.jpg
@washada
@washada 3 жыл бұрын
So that's why the dragon was "The terror of Zaun"! I never figured out what the map had to do with it.
@ngannguyen-un1ef
@ngannguyen-un1ef 5 жыл бұрын
I wish we have a short story or a small comic about demons in runeterra , evelynn vs tahm kench
@LucasLuquineas
@LucasLuquineas 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I question myselft if I'm learning more about design by watching your videos or by studying to my design graduation. Nice job on this channel, buddy
@kibrika
@kibrika 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great video! At first I was like "this is excellent, I disagree so much!" and then you kept talking about other examples of treants and pointing out his glove-hand and I was like "this is even more excellent, I agree with you somewhat now!" (The excitement expressed by using exclamation marks is due to 1) in Latvian grammar exclamation marks are more common than in English; 2) Maokai's my main. To the "doesn't look like a nature spirit" point I disagree because - what's a nature spirit supposed to look like? Basically like the carved figurines of yestertimes. And Maokai to me looks a bit like red and blue buffs, except a bit more advanced and made of wood not rock, so yeah. what's the deal with all the jungle monsters?
@bakaroni7327
@bakaroni7327 5 жыл бұрын
maokai was my first main so he holds a special place in my heart
@altermann1991
@altermann1991 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly now I really want a nother VU for Maokai that makes him more treelike. I mean Ivern is also covering the theme of a treant,so that would actually help to differentiate the 2 a bit more thematically.
@someguyontheinternet1093
@someguyontheinternet1093 5 жыл бұрын
a guy that turned into a treant looks more like a true treant than a tree from spookland
@flameofmage1099
@flameofmage1099 2 жыл бұрын
They could at least make him look like his splash art. His color isn't even right. His splash art looks so cool and actually looks like he's from the Shadow Isles
@burneracount9920
@burneracount9920 5 жыл бұрын
I kinda like this maokai guy from his first description though
@miguelgalvezpetersen6588
@miguelgalvezpetersen6588 5 жыл бұрын
could not the mouse icon when you point out something on the pictures. xD
@ruuqoriss2425
@ruuqoriss2425 5 жыл бұрын
Cool thing, that in almost every Video the Kindred Theme is playing in the background
@eitanezra8963
@eitanezra8963 5 жыл бұрын
Thank god you upload this. I’m feeling like utter shit and your videos always cheer me up. Perfect timing Skyen, you’re never disappointing
@crestfallensunbro6001
@crestfallensunbro6001 Жыл бұрын
"Ive only known about this flower for a minuet and a half and if anything happens to it i will kill everything and then myself"
@RenZeffie
@RenZeffie 5 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what was up with this tree dude. Thank you for the explanation!
@nex7402
@nex7402 5 жыл бұрын
Oh so you're perfect idea for maokai would be like thorn from battlerite
@yoshiyoshi9496
@yoshiyoshi9496 3 жыл бұрын
IS THAT MY FAVOURITE TREE BOI?
@Steel_
@Steel_ 5 жыл бұрын
Veteran players remember when maokai was leaking purple gunk from his body.
@AnasDaif
@AnasDaif 5 жыл бұрын
R/gatekeeping
@calebg1483
@calebg1483 5 жыл бұрын
The Cosmic Yordle r/RedditLinksOutsideOfReddit
@SoulDevoured
@SoulDevoured 3 жыл бұрын
I miss his old ult alot
@tanosantos1993
@tanosantos1993 5 жыл бұрын
While you were talking about the diablo example you mentioned how it lacked anatomy and wasnt symmetrical and I can see where they tried that a little with the difference in size between his arms. But as you said, it's far to polished and smooth to feel right.
@snipsnipb1tch
@snipsnipb1tch 5 жыл бұрын
you should talk about sivir's design, she's my main and there's just something that bothers me in it and idk what it is
@SoulDevoured
@SoulDevoured 3 жыл бұрын
Sivir never got a substantial update and like most OG champs she was an amalgamation of random things (laura croft and xena) Rito thought would be cool to have in the game. Her splash is also really weird in that she's missing a foot and has bad posture but she does look alot less basic than her old splashes. That being said I miss her old joke "You may call me mistress, but only from your knees." Made it pretty clear what the intent of the design was. Sexy badass warrior princess. Battle mistress as they dubbed her.
@jaja7455
@jaja7455 5 жыл бұрын
12:25 good to know, so now we can all chop down the not living trees
@Cremebrulee9650
@Cremebrulee9650 2 жыл бұрын
Well this aged well
@Sky-lv6rr
@Sky-lv6rr 5 жыл бұрын
Sooo... Maokai is a ghost buster? 👻
@HateSonneillon
@HateSonneillon 5 жыл бұрын
I doubt they will obscure his face. I think riot would want people to be able to connect to their champions regardless of their humanity or affiliation, which is something faces, or at least eyes, do best. I think we can only hope that they strike some kind of mid-ground.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe obscure the humanoid body shape? One trunk instead of two legs, a bunch of branches (three of which have hands) instead of two arms, etc.
@Porstile
@Porstile Жыл бұрын
My Main Champions right there. Does he has a chance to feature in sentinel of light event.
@dragonknightmordekaiserthe7830
@dragonknightmordekaiserthe7830 5 жыл бұрын
3.000 views, 300 likes, wow thats convinient
@TBSkyen
@TBSkyen 5 жыл бұрын
Pleasing symmetry!
@myriadofcolours9861
@myriadofcolours9861 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh he kinda looks like a witch's tree golem familiar that she made for halloween.
@felixrivera895
@felixrivera895 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like the ruined king tried to burn his lifeforce to undo the life giving enchantment, but by drawing on a dark artifact for power the spell spread and reversed the power of the blessed isles themselves, as well as the binding magics on all the artifacts that kept them from exploding and or degrading and or reclessly destroying things. Also what if they made the hand less of a wooden hand and mofe of a large rock with sinue like vines and branches growing around the rock so it can be weilded as a weapon and a hand, purely to preserve visual language
@OfftopicStuff
@OfftopicStuff 4 жыл бұрын
that outro teased out the like from me on this one...
@wysp1912
@wysp1912 5 жыл бұрын
Your cursor is hidden throughout the video, makes it a bit harder to follow exactly what you're talking about
@TBSkyen
@TBSkyen 5 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@rasin9391
@rasin9391 5 жыл бұрын
9:02 a f.f.f.flower? 😨
@226phil9
@226phil9 5 жыл бұрын
The new champ will be released before the morde rework. My best guess is that morde will hit the pbe in 2-4 weeks.
@tazllama515
@tazllama515 3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@juliettewetzel6498
@juliettewetzel6498 2 ай бұрын
🌱
@thrall6647
@thrall6647 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings!
@imreplyingtothiscomment2378
@imreplyingtothiscomment2378 5 жыл бұрын
Edge
@Shamanized
@Shamanized 5 жыл бұрын
;___; why do you hate Ziggs so much TB tell us
@CloundCvnt
@CloundCvnt 5 жыл бұрын
Aesthetics of Zaun???
@hypergiantstar1834
@hypergiantstar1834 5 жыл бұрын
wHaTs ThE dEaL wItH AuReLiOn SoL aNd ZoE.
@foxfox3037
@foxfox3037 5 жыл бұрын
he's doing the shadow isles now, maybe he'll do targon later.. have patience
@kitkatty110
@kitkatty110 4 жыл бұрын
lol maokai sounds like forky from toy story 4
@sese5888
@sese5888 5 жыл бұрын
What's the deal with Shen? Is he ok?
@AnasDaif
@AnasDaif 5 жыл бұрын
Maokai became a really important Character.
@Iamhere1223
@Iamhere1223 5 жыл бұрын
This commend is for the algorithm.
@kibrika
@kibrika 5 жыл бұрын
I want to be able to talk to the algorithm too :D
@AuraSight
@AuraSight 5 жыл бұрын
Algorithm boost
@captainChernihiv
@captainChernihiv 5 жыл бұрын
Algorithm boost.
@awesomeazz7999
@awesomeazz7999 5 жыл бұрын
i like maokai's current design but yeah he needs a different back story a lot
@azealiabanks5969
@azealiabanks5969 5 жыл бұрын
ffs damn i wante dto be first
@farrrpa
@farrrpa Жыл бұрын
Hi, I love your work and I'm always coming back. But... in that one video, aren't you like wasting the entire time saying the same thing? "He looks like he was man-made." You said nothing about his sound fx (which are tasty), his voice lines nor his animations. I've watched so much more cohesive videos here in your channel and I thought I could leave this message to point this one out. Thanks, wish you the best and all the success. Please, don't stop 💕
@olianims
@olianims 5 жыл бұрын
0 people have been haunted by the dislike button so far XD
@farrrpa
@farrrpa Жыл бұрын
He's got no nose ;_; you're seeing too much there.
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