What Sephiroth's Fall Means For Us All

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Codename: AgentR

Codename: AgentR

4 ай бұрын

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth is just around the corner and I got to thinking about Sephiroth and how things go down for him and just want to talk about the implications of how he dealt with adversity vs how we might. Let's talk about it!
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@imAgentR
@imAgentR 4 ай бұрын
Had a blast making this one, but this time I did it with CapCut instead of Premiere Pro for those who edit. Let me know what you think. And if you're looking to use the program yourself, I've got a link for you to get started with the Pro version. Download CapCut Desktop to get 7 days of free CapCut Pro: www.capcut.com/capcut_pc_web/fission_receive?code=lVoOl748800674&lng=en
@AndrewClunn
@AndrewClunn 4 ай бұрын
This was just the most randomly insightful and introspective analysis to find. A wonderful collection of thoughts and (dare I say) wisdom. Well done.
@imAgentR
@imAgentR 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the words 🙏 Just hoping to inspire dialogue around the game worlds we spend our time in.
@Rhomagus
@Rhomagus 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to put your thoughts together and share them. I appreciate the work you've done here. Liked and subscribed.
@imAgentR
@imAgentR 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate you 🙏 Working on another now. Something I’ve been wanting to do for a while. Welcome 😎
@itzdcx7991
@itzdcx7991 4 ай бұрын
I feel that it was Jenova influence and not just him
@imAgentR
@imAgentR 4 ай бұрын
Based on what I’ve gleaned from the OG, the remake and external context of where some of the ideas about the two powers come from.. I believe we’re meant to see them as one entity, yet distinct individuals. Sort of like roles of a union. I don’t perceive it’s about one falling victim to the other in this regard, rather his apparent change as a revealing of his nature. Hence, he’s the only one that can move the way he does, despite the fact that others have Jenova cells in them. He is given them in full, akin to being equal in every right to Jenova.
@itzdcx7991
@itzdcx7991 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@imAgentRyeah hopefully the 3rd game extends more information on Jenova from what I've read from the lore in the game, Sephiroth's strong Will has overcome Jenova's and he's just doing his own thing and he's trying to become a God of literal everything
@BeansEnjoyer911
@BeansEnjoyer911 4 ай бұрын
great video, light on spoilers too which is nice for newcomers.
@imAgentR
@imAgentR 4 ай бұрын
Gotta watch out for the newcomers; you only get that wonder once! Appreciate your time.
@Marcustheseer
@Marcustheseer 4 ай бұрын
when you talk about daunting moments and mental things i can see how its easy in some situation to slip into the crazy state sephiroth went into,i can see that in some situation i could go that way but i know its a choice and i also know thats not my way i would maybe go like that fuw a fuw days befoe i snap out of it because it just wouldnt feel right to me. i have played games where you can make a bad charc and for me its always the same after a day or a fuw days am thinking this is not realy fun youre just making everyone arround you afraid or misserable and there is no fun in that when i can be good to people and have everyone be happy. so ya after a fuw try's i just stopped making bad charcs because it just wasnt in me.
@dkelli6020
@dkelli6020 4 ай бұрын
What makes Sephiroth such a polarizing figure, he was once the ultimate protector. And his descent to madness is played out step by step. And that was in the original. Can't wait to see how Rebirth pulls us even deeper into his perspective.
@imAgentR
@imAgentR 4 ай бұрын
Looking forward to it as well!
@theodorehunter4765
@theodorehunter4765 4 ай бұрын
He doesn't "descend in to madness". He drops the act, figuratively speaking. It's not that Sephiroth was a "normal guy" who then went crazy, he literally was a monster and just figured it out. Jenova has the ability to make people see and believe things. She used this ability to infiltrate the Cetra and push them to the brink of extinction. She made Sephiroth believe he was human until such a time that he was powerful enough to enact her will. Sephiroth is LITERALLY Jenova's offspring. He is the same type of creature, just with some added Mako enhancements, courtesy of Shinra. Jenova would infect the Cetra and turn them into monsters under her control. Note how Sephiroth has the same mental "static" that Cloud does. This is a side effect of having false or manufactured memories from Jenova cells. If Sephiroth had just gone crazy, the trip to through the Lifestream and the absorption of the Knowledge of the Ancients would have shown him the error of his ways, yet even after learning the truth, Sephiroth is STILL evil.
@imAgentR
@imAgentR 4 ай бұрын
@theodorehunter4765 that’s a good catch on the mental static and a great way of using the tech to demonstrate that now. Love that sound like channel switching back in the day.
@Marcustheseer
@Marcustheseer 4 ай бұрын
what also makes it weird is how he went from a nice guy to a psycho so quick that usualy doesnt happen and ofc there is the question of how much did jenova influence him,where does bad sephiroth begin and jenovas mindcontrole end?
@theodorehunter4765
@theodorehunter4765 4 ай бұрын
@@Marcustheseer It isn't mind control. Sephiroth behaving like a "human" was a manufactured persona granted by Jenova so that Shinra wouldn't kill him immediately. It's likely Jenova tricked Professor Gast and Professor Hojo into believing that she was an Ancient and that Sephiroth would be an Ancient. That personal collapses once he learns of his true nature and he starts acting like the planet devouring monster he is. This is why he doesn't change once he absorbs the Knowledge of the Ancients. At that point, if he was truly human, the knowledge of what Jenova is would have been made perfectly clear and Sephiroth would have known that he was "tricked", but it doesn't change him.
@Marcustheseer
@Marcustheseer 4 ай бұрын
what also makes the situation weird is how he went from a nice guy to a psycho so quick that usualy doesnt happen and ofc there is the question of how much did jenova influence him,where does bad sephiroth begin and jenovas mindcontrole end? its just kind of ironic that sephiroth thinks jenovah was an ancient instead of an alien monster,and what i dont get what might be a japanese thing is that why does it matter how you are made or what you consist of? what matters in the end is the choices you make and if you choose to be good or not,it doesnt make you a monster if youre a human experiment infused with jenova cells what makes you a monster or a good guy is youre behaviour. even if sephiroth is pist at shinra why would he take it out on his friends and the town instead of banding together with his friends leave the town alone and go after shinra. what he found out didnt lay bare what he realy was,he learned things that messed with his head and we dont know how jenova influences him because we never saw this change from his perspective only from clouds and zacks perspective,and if we can go by how jenvah appearing as seph could litteraly controle cloud its not a stretch to say jenova did the same to sephiroth to an extent. we never saw this in the original because the grasphics where not good enough but in thsi remake we do get hints in sephiroths flashes and panting before he goes nuts that he is fighting with jenova mentaly,it realy looks like he is fighting against a mental invasion,or maybe thats just how it looks when you go nuts but i think his mind is beeing attacked. i think part of the reason why sephiroth went nuts is because he believed he was a monster by finding out how he was created and to justify this in his head he condoned this by saying am doing it for my mother and its my birthright but i think deep down its because he thinks he is an unworthy monster so why not act like one,funny enough genesis and angeal at first had the same excuse they said we are monsters and what do monsters do they hurt others.
@itzdcx7991
@itzdcx7991 4 ай бұрын
We’re definitely getting a 3rd game and this is my Theory for FF7 Part 3’s plot: I'm calling this game: *"FINAL FANTASY 7 REMEMBRANCE"* I speculate this will happen maybe not everything but a majority based on speculation. *-The Cloud that we played as in Rebirth gets corrupted and falls under the influence of Sephiroth or Jenova and turns evil. I say this because we see glimpse of it throughout the game especially at the very end. Cloud starts to act very strange, he also has the Black Materia in his possession and he hides it within his Buster Sword. So keep a note of this* *So we play as an alternate version of Cloud that still has the Mako Poisoning, he's from the same reality that Zack is from, meaning that we almost start all over again this would make game logic sense because he would be some what nerfed again. This also means a version of Aireth is still alive in this reality. We're task with saving the OG cloud and helping him remember himself and then they all unite to stop the Meteor from crashing within the original reality that has converge with Zack’s Reality* Part 3 will heavily focus on memories, hopes and connections with others across time and space. it's gonna be interesting to see if I'm completely correct or partially🙂 Someone suggested to me that they might call it "Resurrection or Revitalize, Rejuvenate" the name Reunion has already been used for Crisis Core
@imAgentR
@imAgentR 4 ай бұрын
We shall see indeed!
@NightPhoenix117
@NightPhoenix117 4 ай бұрын
Your volume is to low!
@imAgentR
@imAgentR 4 ай бұрын
You mean my speaking voice?
@NightPhoenix117
@NightPhoenix117 4 ай бұрын
@@imAgentR yeah lol
@imAgentR
@imAgentR 4 ай бұрын
@@NightPhoenix117 thanks; it sounds on my device, so I couldn’t tell if you meant background audio or voice. I’ll clean it up, so thanks for letting me know.
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