What sunk the Moskva?

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LazerPig

LazerPig

Жыл бұрын

Note: Mere hours before this video was supposed to go live, Russia pulled out of the Kharkiv Oblast, Twitter is currently flooded with pictures and videos of celebrating Ukrainian civilians and the sheer level of equipment the Russians left behind, including an entire division of T-80 battle tanks.
The salty, salty tears of the pro-Russia crowd have been amazing to watch.
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In his worst video ever made LazerPig contemplates what destroyed the Russian cruiser Moskva, what new evidence has come up in light of its sinking, and will we finally solve the mystery of how one of the most powerful warships of our time was destroyed?
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Sources:
The Miramar Ship Index: www.miramarshipindex.nz/
(yes you have to pay for it, but most of what is written is on Wikipedia)
Moskva Maintenance Report (untranslated)
docs.google.com/document/d/1l...
Moskva Maintenance Report (Translated)
docs.google.com/document/d/1v...
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Credits:
Moskva footage B-roll courtesy of the Russian Armed Forces
Rapeseed field and the sky - like Ukrainian flag!
• Video
USSR TV End of Day Sign-off with Anthem (Translated into English + Subtitled)
• USSR TV End of Day Sig...
Russian Navy Cruiser MOSKVA & Frigate ADMIRAL ESSEN transit Istanbul towards Black Sea - Jul 5, 2021
• Russian Navy Cruiser M...
Canal Boat footage:
242. Crossing The Wash by narrowboat - narrowboats at sea!
• 242. Crossing The Wash...
USS Independence Littoral Combat Ship (LCS 2)
• USS Independence Litto...
Huma-Huma - From Russia With Love [Classical] Loop
• Huma-Huma - From Russi...
МРК "Мираж". Август-2008.
• МРК "Мираж". Август-2008.
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@grfrjiglstan
@grfrjiglstan Жыл бұрын
Imagine losing naval superiority to a country with no ships.
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Жыл бұрын
And having half of that enemy's navy defect to you. Yes, half of Ukraine's navy defected to the Russians in 2014...
@grfrjiglstan
@grfrjiglstan Жыл бұрын
@@mrmacias4217 Well, they can fire HIMARS at the Russians' ammo dumps, leaving them high and dry, then fire a second round at them, killing them instantly. That, or pull off the most successful feint in history and drive them the fuck out. You know, to name a few options. :)
@mrmacias4217
@mrmacias4217 Жыл бұрын
@@grfrjiglstan sheesh what about the BM-30s that keep blowing up the Ukrainians??? Russia actually has hundreds of them
@mrmacias4217
@mrmacias4217 Жыл бұрын
@@grfrjiglstan well the Russians can just fire back with their BM-30s 😂 please stop believing Ukrainian propaganda it makes you dumber than you already are
@grfrjiglstan
@grfrjiglstan Жыл бұрын
@@mrmacias4217 HIMARS outranges those too. And their ammo isn't any less explosive.
@SergeantKillGore
@SergeantKillGore Жыл бұрын
LazerPig showed up to the Moskva party like he does to work: Late, drunk, but still doing a great job.
@pixiekawai
@pixiekawai Жыл бұрын
And then ended up making us all cry.
@devindeocharan8323
@devindeocharan8323 Жыл бұрын
And aint that true, cause this was a wonderful job
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 Жыл бұрын
@ThyPeasantSlayer If the fates of those caught up in this pointless war don't make you tear up at least a little... well, I'd prefer not to know about it. It's comforting to pretend monsters like that don't exist.
@Peas_and_Carrots
@Peas_and_Carrots Жыл бұрын
And that's why he keeps his job
@yerpright7548
@yerpright7548 Жыл бұрын
A better job than NZ media. Although the classic of a gay guy telling incels how to meet women(accurately)...👌 just 👌
@Dcook85
@Dcook85 Жыл бұрын
Ukraine didn't just sink the Moskva, they put it out of it's misery.
@brendenburke272
@brendenburke272 Жыл бұрын
They helped him he's probably happier than before. Probably resting with all the Russian patrol boats.
@rejectedcopy4733
@rejectedcopy4733 10 ай бұрын
They promoted it to submarine
@soviet_union1936
@soviet_union1936 10 ай бұрын
japan didnt just attack pearl harbor it oput it out of its misery
@jblazerndrowzy
@jblazerndrowzy 10 ай бұрын
@@soviet_union1936Least obvious tankie
@davidknowles2491
@davidknowles2491 10 ай бұрын
@@soviet_union1936 - Actually Japan failed. Miserably.
@user-tl6qg6cz5e
@user-tl6qg6cz5e 4 ай бұрын
As a russian who lost my brother to this idiotic war I cried at the end.
@welllettsgetitdown
@welllettsgetitdown 4 ай бұрын
Damn sorry man
@Pepper98776
@Pepper98776 4 ай бұрын
Cope
@silversolitaire1519
@silversolitaire1519 3 ай бұрын
Sh*t dude, that’s tragic.
@Goofster-goober
@Goofster-goober 3 ай бұрын
@@Pepper98776 No matter who you support in this war, have some decent fucking empathy for those who have lost their family in this.
@carsonofson2347
@carsonofson2347 3 ай бұрын
​​@Pepper98776 have you ever thought about not being a c*nt
@unyieldingsarcasm2505
@unyieldingsarcasm2505 Жыл бұрын
"There is no glory gained in the blood of children" Perhaps the most true thing you have ever said lazerPig, well spoken. Im glad that Ukraine is winning this, but the price of this war, on both sides, is nothing but needless horror.
@Anon_1003
@Anon_1003 Жыл бұрын
👍
@insanospaz
@insanospaz Жыл бұрын
I want to like that were now at a point in media that's we can put a name and face with pic and a background to "the enemy" This kid deserved none of what happened to him, he had proud parents and was just trying to live his fucking life and it got torn from him by some political bs
@gabbot141
@gabbot141 Жыл бұрын
Now there are no more children's hospitals to hide Azov in anymore.
@MrSGL21
@MrSGL21 Жыл бұрын
the end of this video really hits the feels. LP really put a face on this war. just some kid who wanted to be a train driver gets caught up up in this bullshit and gets killed and his parents can't even have a funeral.
@blingbling574
@blingbling574 Жыл бұрын
I share that view as a veteran. After 5 years in recon unit, the truth sunk into my young thick brainwashed skull. I took an oath, a side and served.
@ThompsonExpress
@ThompsonExpress Жыл бұрын
"give finger guns to the actual King of Spain" "He answers with his own finger guns" Chad to chad communication.
@Xenomorthian
@Xenomorthian Жыл бұрын
The language of Kings
@cardboardking577
@cardboardking577 Жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@sunnex474
@sunnex474 Жыл бұрын
The king of spain would kick the shit out of King Charles
@aregularperson7453
@aregularperson7453 Жыл бұрын
Real recognizes real
@Pyrus425
@Pyrus425 Жыл бұрын
@@aregularperson7453 this is the most magnificent pun I’ve seen and a while.
@xeones661
@xeones661 Жыл бұрын
"She was made in the waters of Ukraine and only in the waters of Ukraine can she be UN-made." -Slavic Gandalf, probably
@jeffthebovine4158
@jeffthebovine4158 10 ай бұрын
And like Mordor, Russian naval superiority disintegrates when it’s destroyed lmao
@tostadatheviking7828
@tostadatheviking7828 Жыл бұрын
The Russians said it was an internal fire, and the Ukrainians said it was anti-ship missiles, but given the completely fucked nature of the ship it's distinctly possible for both of these to be true
@h3069
@h3069 Жыл бұрын
Tbf a missile could probably ignite an internal fire
@Mike-wx9jl
@Mike-wx9jl Жыл бұрын
@@h3069 I'm leaning more towards a natural internal fire than internal fire caused by the supposed missile hits and this is the reason, the ship at the time of sinking was nearly 48 years old and i hate to say it suffered the exact same stuff as Russia's only "aircraft" carrier, very poor maintenance, obsolete parts/systems, lack of funds to fully modernize the vessel AND the whole of the Russian Navy.
@johnwolf2349
@johnwolf2349 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-wx9jl Main reason I doubt this idea is that the Ukrainian accounts mentioned the attack *before* reports of the Moskva being in trouble arrived. If they were just claiming a missile hit for propaganda after the Russians blew themselves up, there would have been some lag between first reports of the ship being in trouble and them claiming responsibility.
@harleymitchelly5542
@harleymitchelly5542 Жыл бұрын
@@johnwolf2349 Well... the theoretical possibility is always that Murphy's Law went into effect. Missile hits the Moskva, in and of itself doesn't do anything, but thanks to any number of other things that may or may not happen over the course of a ship getting hit with a missile, a fire breaks out. Missile causes an internal fire on the Moskva without the missile actually igniting anything on its own. It hit me now... operating procedure probably would have been to switch all power to anti-missile batteries. Was this perhaps an electrical fire?
@trutwhut6550
@trutwhut6550 Жыл бұрын
@@harleymitchelly5542 completely possible, I could even imagine then panicking and switching all 3 layers on far to fast.
@yokaiou5848
@yokaiou5848 Жыл бұрын
As a retired sailor, that was a horror story, a U.S. crew would mutiny before a ship would go that bad.
@subtlewhatssubtle
@subtlewhatssubtle Жыл бұрын
If I'm to understand the report correctly they couldn't even serve chow in a semi-heated state most of the time. That suggests they were issued ration kits, probably fairly old ones. Imagine putting a modern crew to sea, then telling them eat antique rations out of waxpaper boxes for an indeterminate time, while the galley itself can't stay a consistent temperature. $10 says you would be beaten half to death with your own shoes before the week was out.
@manngaiho1012
@manngaiho1012 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the state of the USS Iowa during the turret explosion incident wasn't half this bad. Even if a whole turret of people got turned into meat slushy and promptly covered up.
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 Жыл бұрын
Yes, driven by gas turbines…
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 Жыл бұрын
All of Russia is that bad, so they're numb and used to it. They don't know any better.
@simonjohnston9488
@simonjohnston9488 Жыл бұрын
As I read this, my mind went back to Trump firing Capt. Brett Crozier from the Teddy Roosevelt, for having the gall to ask for help with Covid issues on the ship, and doing it the right way. The U.S. was lucky he only got 4 years. Trump mirrored Putin in so many ways.
@jakublulek3261
@jakublulek3261 Жыл бұрын
My running theory is still that HMS Warrior, commanded by the ghost of Horatio Nelson and crewed by Angels of Mons, sneaked to Black Sea and tried to bombard Sevastopol but because of "amazing" accuracy of 68 pounder Armstrong canons they accidentally hit Moskva and sunk it. C'mon, it is not as wild as the actual Russian propaganda! Edit: Welcome, fellow Drach fans!
@Nmille98
@Nmille98 Жыл бұрын
bruh how long has it been since I thought about the Angels of Mons? This comment is underrated.
@mattiaspettersson4295
@mattiaspettersson4295 Жыл бұрын
Now thats what i call credible.
@underscore_nick1344
@underscore_nick1344 Жыл бұрын
Seems legit
@azravalencia4577
@azravalencia4577 Жыл бұрын
this comment is so glorious, French Egyptian Fleet suddenly sunk.
@KPW2137
@KPW2137 Жыл бұрын
Well, sounds plausible!
@Lili_Chen2005
@Lili_Chen2005 Жыл бұрын
"This maintenance report will sound like a horror story." Oh come on, how bad can it be. .... Oh my god. What's wrong with the cafeteria?!
@aussiejezza
@aussiejezza Жыл бұрын
shit went from 0-100 real fast
@Kaiserboo1871
@Kaiserboo1871 Жыл бұрын
Give me a rundown. What was the top 10 things you found horrifying about the Moskva .
@f3nn3lgaming
@f3nn3lgaming Жыл бұрын
@@Kaiserboo1871 Bloody everything, that's what.
@thatredkite8310
@thatredkite8310 Жыл бұрын
@@Kaiserboo1871 yes.
@Kaiserboo1871
@Kaiserboo1871 Жыл бұрын
@@thatredkite8310 -_-
@solaris8007
@solaris8007 5 ай бұрын
Im in my late 20’s and played a lot of counter strike growing up. One match we met this Russian kid. We started off shit talking each other as kids on the Internet do. But the game starts and one of my buddies asks him how do Russians win CSGO matches. “i show you” he responds. Match starts and he just shouts “Uraaaa!” Over his mic and charges in blind and immediately gets killed. We give him shit, we’re all laughing then he tells us it didnt work because we didnt join in…so we do. All of us shouting “Ura!” Over our mics shooting blindly…laughing between rounds. He was probably my age. Maybe a little younger. Which means this would be his war. Which means there is a very real chance that this crazy, funny kid from Russia…died horribly in a trench. I dont know what happened to this kid. Played a few games then got off. I hope he’s ok. And people have the audacity to cheer when they look at the casualty count.
@bubanto
@bubanto 5 ай бұрын
🙁
@OsnoloVrach
@OsnoloVrach 28 күн бұрын
Hate it when I open telegram and I see a bunch of guys cheering about someone's death, I'm pro ukraine but I hate it when the average young soldier is demonized infront of the whole world to see, afterall alot of people come into the war just so they could pay off their debts. Awful shit
@daveweiss5647
@daveweiss5647 7 күн бұрын
100% the reaction to the deaths of young conscripts on both sides during this war has been disgusting...
@AnthonyA1995
@AnthonyA1995 Жыл бұрын
"The Moskva wreck has now been claimed as a cultural heritage site by Ukraine" Holy shit, I didn't think it was possible to be this unfathomably based.
@Zaprozhan
@Zaprozhan Жыл бұрын
I savour the irony that the ship was built in the Ukraine, and when used against it's homeland, was sunk.
@burnerheinz
@burnerheinz Жыл бұрын
@@Zaprozhan "My hands created thee and my hands shal rend you appart!"
@devindeocharan8323
@devindeocharan8323 Жыл бұрын
"So you took our ship, used them as your flagship, didn't maintain it, let it go to shit. Than, you have the gall of bringing it arms against us, and than proceed to sink the bloody thing! Well, we'll be taking that then, we can probably keep it in better condition than you did while it still floated!" - Probably some Ukraine Naval Officer somewhere
@Proletrolliat
@Proletrolliat Жыл бұрын
Ukraine should take all the russian equipment they destroyed/captured and make medals out of it.
@jessehachey2732
@jessehachey2732 Жыл бұрын
@@Proletrolliat They’ve been manufacturing challenge coins made out of ruzzian armour that was destroyed, so similar idea, they’re on it!
@ThatGenericName
@ThatGenericName Жыл бұрын
From what I've read, the story behind the video at 4:50 is as follows: Some Ukrainian soldiers were bored, and decided to troll Russian media. A bunch of them laid down on the ground, pretending to be dead, and one of them with the camera pretended to be Russian filming all the Ukrainian soldiers they killed in an amphibious river crossing attempt, mocking Russia's own failed attempts to cross rivers. He then intentionally keeps recording as they all get up and laugh. They then posted it to social media with the end cut out , which predictably the pro Russian trolls picked it up as if it was a major success, not bothering to question where all the river crossing equipment is, or why there's only like 4 dead dudes. Once this spread a bit, they then posted the full video, highlighting Russian Media's general inability to properly confirm their sources.
@ramblingrenegade6346
@ramblingrenegade6346 Жыл бұрын
In the infamous words of the Orange Man: "we do a little trolling"
@crashstudi0s
@crashstudi0s Жыл бұрын
Is not inability, is unwillingness; they know how to get factual information, at least some of them, they don't want to, because that would mean telling the truth: that they are a complet joke
@pagatryx5451
@pagatryx5451 Жыл бұрын
Ironically it also has highlighted the Western media's general inability to confirm their sources too. I have seen LOADS of people reporting on this video but they've all said the video was recorded by Russians who just forgot to cut the end out or it was leaked. Had any of these people checked to find the source of the video, they could have explained what you just did here, and the videos purpose. I'm still obviously on the side of Ukraine here, it's just an interesting point to make. Don't trust any source, even if they're more trustworthy.
@peequod1647
@peequod1647 Жыл бұрын
That story had me on tears the first time i read about it, vatniks constantly meme'd will always be funny to me
@seanreynolds7369
@seanreynolds7369 Жыл бұрын
This makes it even funnier
@TrepidDestiny
@TrepidDestiny Жыл бұрын
Me: "Man, that looks just like my old US Army counselling statements." LazerPig: "These are actually a United States document for troop counselling..." Died laughing.
@Shauntheduke.
@Shauntheduke. Жыл бұрын
Damn who knows it might be your actual statements the ruskies used
@fullweezy3553
@fullweezy3553 9 ай бұрын
I recognized it as soon as I saw it. I think I still have that template on my computer I got out in 2013 and it's still there 😂
@Mostlyharmless1985
@Mostlyharmless1985 9 ай бұрын
I must say that is the most wrong I've ever seen a 4856 done. And I've seen some jacked up 4856's. What's even more hilarious about it is they used the obsolete form.
@ThePuppywolf
@ThePuppywolf 9 ай бұрын
@@fullweezy3553 Same, its rather unique
@SeanP7195
@SeanP7195 5 ай бұрын
Yeah when it popped up I thought it was a DD-214
@sptony2718
@sptony2718 8 ай бұрын
The Moskva didn't sink... ...it was field promoted to submarine!
@John2r1
@John2r1 8 ай бұрын
It was field promoted into a coral reef.
@mcspooky8180
@mcspooky8180 2 ай бұрын
Just how most russian airplanes in the sea also get promoted to boat and subsequently, submarine
@leodesalis5915
@leodesalis5915 21 күн бұрын
Say what you want about the russians but historically their navy has been very eco friendly. Just think of all the artificial reefs they've spread across the world.
@darthmalgus9267
@darthmalgus9267 Жыл бұрын
"for the 50.000 russian families with empty seats at the dinner table there is no glory gained in the blood of children" holy fucking shit dude
@TheIKAIKAIKA
@TheIKAIKAIKA Жыл бұрын
I wish I could understand and feel bad about this but I just cant, those exact 50.000 russians slaughtered at least 86.000 civilians in Mariupol only. Russian soldiers lives at the moment mean less to me than anything in existence, even a maggot has more value.
@skipperglume
@skipperglume Жыл бұрын
they all have a new Lada
@funnyjokeman6175
@funnyjokeman6175 Жыл бұрын
@@TheIKAIKAIKA Blame the government, not the soldiers. The brass are the ones at fault, the boots don't have a choice.
@TheIKAIKAIKA
@TheIKAIKAIKA Жыл бұрын
@@funnyjokeman6175 thats bullshit and you know it. So if brass tells you to rape children you would listen to the command? If so they are nothing but a tool and I dont feel bad for tools.
@WearyKirin
@WearyKirin Жыл бұрын
@@TheIKAIKAIKA chances are that every single US bomber crew in world War 2 killed at least one civilian. Would you call them worthless maggots?
@TheChivalricKnight
@TheChivalricKnight Жыл бұрын
As a US Navy sailor, I've deployed into the Black Sea on numerous occasions. The Russians always send what we call a "shadow." One of their frigates (normally a Krivak, the RFN *Ladnyy* (801), but sometimes other smaller surface combatants) would follow us throughout our stay in the Black Sea, which -- due to international treaties -- wouldn't last more than 30 days from the day we entered through the Bosporus. Not all the time, but damn near all the time, we would regularly simply... outpace our shadow by increasing to half-speed, usually about 15 knots, which is not fast at all by modern warship standards. The Russian warship would usually belch black smoke and struggle to keep up. On more than one occasion, they would blow their engines and go completely dead in the water. One specific occasion back in... 2018? 2019? I can't quite remember, but they blew their engines and we stuck around until their tug arrived to two them back to Sevastopol, despite their heavy insistence that they were completely fine. Whatever, fellas, we're just here to make sure you're not a hazard to other maritime traffic. The RFN has always been a joke and always will. They're more of a ramming threat than anything else, to be honest. Anytime we were in the Med, we were more concerned about shit cooking off between Greece and Turkey -- two of our NATO allies -- rather than anything the RFN could do. For those who are hungry for war, I always remember a quote from the old (to me) show M*A*S*H. "Hawkeye: War isn't Hell. War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse. Father Mulcahy: How do you figure, Hawkeye? Hawkeye: Easy, Father. Tell me, who goes to Hell? Father Mulcahy: Sinners, I believe. Hawkeye: Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them - little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander."
@ylstorage7085
@ylstorage7085 Жыл бұрын
but, it is best not to start wars just to prevent wars.
@generalharness8266
@generalharness8266 Жыл бұрын
@@ylstorage7085 While I tend to agree, appeasement has never worked. I still stand by the idea that the best way to prevent war is to be prepared for and willing to be in one.
@NorgumiOwO
@NorgumiOwO Жыл бұрын
@@generalharness8266 agreed
@ag7898
@ag7898 Жыл бұрын
@@generalharness8266 big fan of the Mike Tyson saying "everyone has a plan until the get punched in the mouth". Feels like that encompasses this conflict... Russia had a plan... then got punched in the mouth.
@richardrose9943
@richardrose9943 Жыл бұрын
No he said punched in the faith
@quackingchicken2624
@quackingchicken2624 Жыл бұрын
Idk man, loosing the flagship of your navy to a storm seem way more embarrassing than loosing it to the enemy.
@isuckatusernames4297
@isuckatusernames4297 11 ай бұрын
I heard a source saying the russian blamed a meteorite once. which,considering how religious that country is, should be taken as a bad sign for the russian
@sebastianb.3978
@sebastianb.3978 10 ай бұрын
​@@isuckatusernames4297When skydaddy calls an airstrike on your flagship, you may just be the baddie.🤔
@isuckatusernames4297
@isuckatusernames4297 10 ай бұрын
@@sebastianb.3978 I mean, how else are you supposed to interpret that sig. as a christian ?
@Itried20takennames
@Itried20takennames 7 ай бұрын
Or that no….it wasn’t sunk….we incompetently set it on fire ourselves. But I think the Russian government lies so much they couldn’t stop themselves even when the truth arguably worked better for them…just force of habit.
@MarioSantos-zx4bj
@MarioSantos-zx4bj 5 ай бұрын
​@@isuckatusernames4297Just blame it on Satan, like every other bad thing that happens, or on another religion
@templariclegion2826
@templariclegion2826 5 ай бұрын
"There is no glory to be gained in the blood of children" God damn.
@Tetsujinhanmaa
@Tetsujinhanmaa Жыл бұрын
Former US Navy sailor here. I can confirm 2 things: A) A US captain would be court martialed for having ⅒ of the problems the Moscow had. B) Most of the sailors would tell said captain to go eff himself if he tried to head to sea with the ship in that state.
@AllCentaur
@AllCentaur Жыл бұрын
This is me being a civilian so I will admit to ignorance. What standards are expected by the USN of maritime upkeep and maintenance? What can be put off but what cannot?
@Tetsujinhanmaa
@Tetsujinhanmaa Жыл бұрын
@@AllCentaur If the Moskva was an American ship and the was the maintenance report, it would but sent immediately to the drydock. All the CIWS guns would be operational, the S-300 radar issue would be sorted by the contractors from the manufacturer. It would have all required fire extinguishers and full working status lights. The damage control gear would not be under lock and key, they'd be in appropriate lockers throughout the ship. Those engines that had 10,000 hrs on them? They'd be tagged for refit, refurbishment or replacement. And the ones on end of service life would be replaced. All said that kind of report would label a ship 'Unsatisfactory" in the US Navy. Any sailors found with stolen gear would be court-martialed too.
@covenant05
@covenant05 Жыл бұрын
@@Tetsujinhanmaa "The damage control gear would not be under lock and key, they'd be in appropriate lockers throughout the ship." < The problem as mentioned in the video was theft. Right there is a an underlying problem that cannot be solved in a straightforward way. The theft is a symptom the comes from a culture of corruption incomparable to most modern militaries. Russia and China and other authoritarian governments will have this problem. In China their is a form of selling positions in exchange for bribes. In Russia the soldiers and lower officers are sooo underpaid they resort to selling their own equipment. Something is clearly wrong with the culture here
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you could pull any of the Iowas out of the Museum fleet, and they'd have less problems than the Moskva had.
@swaghauler8334
@swaghauler8334 Жыл бұрын
@@covenant05 While I agree with your statement. We need to look at a normal Army or Navy (which is still concerned with theft). Why did the Captain or the Admiral NOT order that the fire fighting equipment be taken out of the storage lockers and distributed when she was putting out to sea? How would any would-be thieves sell those fire extinguishers as they sailed off? My Uncle Sam does this. You are not issued weapons, ammo, night vision, or other sensitive equipment from the Armory until you are actually deploying to the conflict zone.
@onepingvasili6149
@onepingvasili6149 Жыл бұрын
"Anyone who has ever looked into the glazed eyes of a soldier dying on the battlefield will think hard before starting a war." - Otto Von Bismarck.
@garretth8224
@garretth8224 Жыл бұрын
Ironic coming from Bismarck.
@LarryWater
@LarryWater Жыл бұрын
Bismarck invaded France.
@nikolai877
@nikolai877 Жыл бұрын
@@LarryWater And he probably thought hard about it first. Anyway, the quote isn't pacifist in nature, it's about "only enter a fight you are going to win, and even then make sure it's a cheap win". The quote is supposedly from when he argued to not declare war upon Austria during a jingoistic turn of events (yet later on he would instigate a war with Austria, when he trusted it would be a quick one).
@JohnHughesChampigny
@JohnHughesChampigny Жыл бұрын
@@LarryWater "Bismark invaded France" -- After the French had declared war on and invaded Germany. (Yes, I know he goaded them into doing it, but they were dumb to take the bait. There are 1,000 dead French and German soldiers buried around 500 metres from where I'm writing this).
@Spacey_key
@Spacey_key Жыл бұрын
@@JohnHughesChampigny yeah, and that was literally what Bismarck wanted, it's a pretty well known fact
@StephenTSchuler
@StephenTSchuler 2 ай бұрын
Watching this in 2024. "If this is what the flagship looks like, what's the rest of the navy look like? We may never know." Oh... we know
@84MadHatter
@84MadHatter 2 ай бұрын
they look like good coral reefs
@Pioneer_DE
@Pioneer_DE Ай бұрын
Im not caught up, is there another event that happened of which I am unaware of?
@garyslayton8340
@garyslayton8340 24 күн бұрын
​@@Pioneer_DE Russian landing craft are dropping like flies Many are simply sinking due to being overweghted (I mean large vehicle landing craft not like D-day type things) russia has also compleaty abandoned the black sea eith its navy
@kjj26k
@kjj26k 12 күн бұрын
​@@Pioneer_DE Ukraine has systematically destroyed about half of every surface vessel in the Black Sea Fleet, the rest are currently in hiding.
@mcchuggernaut9378
@mcchuggernaut9378 11 ай бұрын
"Caught fire in rough seas" is even WORSE than "Damaged by the enemy". Russia: "We will hide our incompetence by making up another story of WORSE incompetence inflicted by ourselves!" - I can hear the sad trumpets in my head....
@voided1746
@voided1746 Жыл бұрын
"Should I tell him to fuck off" "Just in case" "Hey Russian Ship, Fuck Off!" That's one of the best responses to getting told to surrender I've ever heard
@connoissuer_of_class
@connoissuer_of_class Жыл бұрын
I consider it the modern equivalent of the famous; “NUTS” response to the Germans surrounding Bastogne.
@SGTcz90cz
@SGTcz90cz Жыл бұрын
Also up there with the scene from A Bridge Too Far, where the Germans ask the Paras to surrender - and are in turn told that the Paras are not in possession of proper facilities to take an entire SS Panzer Division prisoner. To the best of my knowledge, this is a historically accurate. The Paras in Arnhem, the 101st in Bastogne and now the Ukrainians on Snake Island are apparently made of the same stuff.
@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462
@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 Жыл бұрын
I love listening to Lazerpig's documentaries. He really doesn't bullshit with ww1 and ww2 history. Holy shit, guys; I never thought this comment would blow up like this. Thanks for all the likes!
@luisj908
@luisj908 Жыл бұрын
And I'm all here for it 🤘🤘
@zopEnglandzip
@zopEnglandzip Жыл бұрын
100% pig gold, none of that bullshit
@elektrotehnik94
@elektrotehnik94 Жыл бұрын
How DARE Lazerpig engage the little emotional intelligence me & the boys at NCD have left? THE INSOLENECE! harder daddy pigg'o
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw Жыл бұрын
the glurgy pity Mark at the end was bullsit because Marks' brothers in arms" raped robbed murdered and tortured their way across Ukraine. K Cherty s Markom.
@tiny175
@tiny175 Жыл бұрын
yup. WW1 and WW2 were some of the best examples that war is hell, and there is no glory or winners. That's why Russia is on the offensive - Putin has no other choice but to rely on classic politician move of "start a war" to try to hold on to power.
@manospondylus4896
@manospondylus4896 3 ай бұрын
“If this is their flagship, what is the rest of their navy like?” Well, now it is underwater too.
@Totalycrafted
@Totalycrafted Жыл бұрын
As a Norwegian, I can respect a fellow country sinking ships from land
@senorpepper3405
@senorpepper3405 Жыл бұрын
You mean like sinking german cruisers with old 19th century coastal guns and torpedo batteries? 😮magical Scandinavian coastal defense ✨️
@cheetosjumboenjoyer6833
@cheetosjumboenjoyer6833 8 ай бұрын
You guys did great in WW2, considering you were facing the most powerful army on earth at the time. Sunk a Cruiser, Denied them ur iron mines, and even won some battles. You guys did the very best you could hope for.
@Alexamyah
@Alexamyah Жыл бұрын
I was expecting the Moskva to have Been in bad condition when it was hit because Russia, but a vessel in that state being okayed for combat is just insane.
@naamadossantossilva4736
@naamadossantossilva4736 Жыл бұрын
Yeah,when i read about it on /k/ i was shocked too.The russians were begging for that humiliation.
@Sonlirain
@Sonlirain Жыл бұрын
I suspect no one past a couple paid off technicians and the higher ranked among the crew even knew the ship was in that state. Probably not even the admiral knew. Attrition caused by Corruption is borderline impossible to spot until it's too late.
@dark_drakon6814
@dark_drakon6814 Жыл бұрын
Did YOU ever hear the Tragedy of Russian 2nd Pacific Squadron . It's not a story the tankie would tell you .
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 Жыл бұрын
Well, that IS "because Russia."
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 Жыл бұрын
@@dark_drakon6814 From what LazerPig said, _Kamchatka_ was in better shape than _Moskva_ was. _Moskva_ couldn't even see the torpedo boats if they were there.
@Qdaman17
@Qdaman17 Жыл бұрын
Hey lazerpig, could you ever cover desert storm and the entirety of the war, you talked about it briefly in Ukraine part 1 and I think it would be cool if you covered it yourself
@d4arx672
@d4arx672 Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome!
@Finngolian
@Finngolian Жыл бұрын
agreed
@genericname42
@genericname42 Жыл бұрын
Yess
@andrewgardner58
@andrewgardner58 Жыл бұрын
yes plz
@camwintlenewell6448
@camwintlenewell6448 Жыл бұрын
My pa was in desert storm
@ericbelify
@ericbelify 2 ай бұрын
“A country when faced with its own hubris does not learn and grow as a people, it doubles down”. Wonderfully said!
@jimtheedcguy4313
@jimtheedcguy4313 9 ай бұрын
This is unrelated, but I was 2 days into my opiate withdrawal recovery when I found this video and your channel! I still watch all your videos to this day, but this one holds a special place in my heart! I’m now over a year sober!
@stickiedmin6508
@stickiedmin6508 2 ай бұрын
Good for you Jim. Comparing the statistics of those who make it, like you, and those who can't, what you did is considered one of the most difficult and challenging things a human being might face. That's frckn incredible. Best of luck for the days ahead.
@redvenge709
@redvenge709 Жыл бұрын
Well, let me spin you a naval yarn. USS Kittyhawk was the last conventional carrier in operation in the US Navy. She was stationed in Japan. Her deployment schedule was 3 months out, 3 months in, rinse and repeat forever. That put considerable strain on the venerable warship. Having returned from a deployment, late in 2001, the ship pulled in pierside for inspection and repair. At this point in her life, she needed considerable maintenance to continue operating. To facilitate the repairs, her hatches were dogged open to allow air trunks, hoses filled with oxygen and acetalyne (for welding) and elecrtical cables to be threaded throughout the ship. Most equipment was rendered inoperable for repairs. I was on watch, with most of the crew off the ship as is the custom when returning from deployment. During my slow and otherwise uneventful watch, the deck watch sounded general quarters, and to man battle stations. We were unable to secure the ship, since there was cables and hoses everywhere (some hatches were actually chained open, and would require bolt cutters to close). Since we were pierside, the air wing was not onboard. A message over the 1MC declared that the world trade center and pentagon had been "destroyed by hostile forces". So, here we are, no planes, can't close up the ship, all the anti-air systems offline and we were told "someone" had just attacked America and were blowing things up. Our defences consisted of two teenagers with shotguns on the flight deck. In the end, nothing came of it. The specifics of the actual events of 9/11 are well documented. Having heard the situation of the Moskva, I felt a bit of sympathy for those sailors. "But for the grace of God go I" and all that.
@worekmiesa1255
@worekmiesa1255 Жыл бұрын
The year you meant to write is 2001 not 2011 right?
@talescompany9045
@talescompany9045 Жыл бұрын
well at least its good to hear that the CISS (close in shotgun system) project payed off surly she would have never been attacked even if they had the capability to do so for such a strong defensive grid would have rendered it a suicide to engage.
@Beausabre
@Beausabre Жыл бұрын
The difference is you and the Shitty Kitty were pier-side undergoing a maintenance interval when a surprise attack occurred. The Mockva was underway....in a warzone. In an honest Navy, the leadership (from the captain and senior chief up to and including at least the admiral commanding the Black Sea fleet) should be facing a court martial.
@andrewgause6971
@andrewgause6971 Жыл бұрын
As others have said, there is a slight difference between being in dock undergoing repairs and refit and having 90% of your defenses unaccounted for, and being in the middle of an active war zone where you are expected to fight. Kitty Hawk was also not exactly the pride of the U.S. navy at the time.
@Beausabre
@Beausabre Жыл бұрын
@@andrewgause6971 " As others have said, there is a slight difference between being in dock undergoing repairs and refit and having 90% of your defenses unaccounted for..." Which is exactly what I was saying.... " Kitty Hawk was also not exactly the pride of the U.S. navy at the time" Hence the reference to her nickname, the Shitty Kitty.
@NevolmonGaming
@NevolmonGaming Жыл бұрын
As a US army veteran the moment that "ukrainian training document" came on screen i immediately recognized it as an american counseling statement. pretty damn funny
@Jetpusher
@Jetpusher Жыл бұрын
In the navy I was like wow this awfully looks like a counseling chit.
@m00se37
@m00se37 Жыл бұрын
seeing the size and before reading it I thought It was the most disturbed lower enlisted; turns out it was just Russians not understanding the overcomplex amount of paperwork the US Army has.
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale Жыл бұрын
Reminder: The original "Jew Conspiracy" document was also a cello-tape job by the old Tzarist secret agency. Different people, same playbook.
@Shaun_Jones
@Shaun_Jones Жыл бұрын
@@m00se37 TF2 Soldier voice: “Bureaucracy wins again!”
@luxborealis
@luxborealis Жыл бұрын
As a European who’ve worked a bit with the British military I noticed immediately it wasn’t British. The most obvious thing being it using American English, but the other being syntax all over the place and all lack of the official stamps, and the codes being all wrong.
@CStone-xn4oy
@CStone-xn4oy Жыл бұрын
I look forward to the spin-off channel where The King of Spain and Lazerpig team up to solve mysteries together.
@41tl
@41tl Жыл бұрын
No joke I would pay money to see that.
@Zoey_the_Rat
@Zoey_the_Rat Жыл бұрын
I am russian and you are wrong. There are lots of families celebrating their sons' deaths. Fascism does this and even weirder things to people
@joshjwillway1545
@joshjwillway1545 Жыл бұрын
That’s fucking mental
@MrTangolizard
@MrTangolizard 11 ай бұрын
I’ve heard lots of story’s of Russian wives or mothers not collecting there dead so it goes down as missing so they can continue to collect there pay
@jeffthebovine4158
@jeffthebovine4158 10 ай бұрын
Fascism will always have its flock of parasites
@hanzzel6086
@hanzzel6086 5 ай бұрын
That, that is more horrifying than the report....
@bara922
@bara922 Жыл бұрын
This is pretty consistent with how the Russians maintain (or don't) their ships. When they gave the HMS Royal Sovereign back the Brits were astounded to realize the turrets were all jammed on the center line and hadn't been rotated at all.
@BritishBeachcomber
@BritishBeachcomber Жыл бұрын
The Royal Sovereign (Arkhangelsk) was already 30 years old when we gifted her to Russia. We gave them a useless rusting hulk to save us the trouble of scrapping her.
@TheSpectralFX
@TheSpectralFX Жыл бұрын
@@BritishBeachcomber you could have at least scrap some copium out of it, definitely a needed commodity theses days.
@daveharrison4697
@daveharrison4697 Жыл бұрын
@@BritishBeachcomber And yet at 30 years old she was still in active commission with the RN our in the Indian Ocean weeks before it was transferred to the Soviets. I had a mate go on a deck tour of a Russian Navy warship in the earlyish 2000s, and as a WE matelot he had a good look at their weapon systems on deck. Painted over grease-nipples are a prime combat indicator that maintenance isn't being carried out you know.
@andriandrason1318
@andriandrason1318 Жыл бұрын
@@BritishBeachcomber Arkhangelsk was the largest ship in the Soviet fleet during the war.
@Thomas-rk4rl
@Thomas-rk4rl Жыл бұрын
@@BritishBeachcomber The poles were able to operate a 30 year old cruiser from the same nation (HMS Danae) just fine, the Soviets have no excuse. At least the Polish apparently knew how to rotate a fuckin turret
@ShieldAre
@ShieldAre Жыл бұрын
That list of malfunctions in the ship almost makes me believe that this actually was an accident. A ship in that state doesn't sound like it even needs to be hit by a missile to sink.
@silaskuemmerle2505
@silaskuemmerle2505 Жыл бұрын
Especially when you see the videos of Russian conscripts smoking next to fuel trucks
@Menaceblue3
@Menaceblue3 Жыл бұрын
@@silaskuemmerle2505 LoL smoking near a fuel tank? That's very cheeki Breeki my friend....
@Stalkergames916
@Stalkergames916 Жыл бұрын
@@Menaceblue3 their just trying to sink it at that point
@swaghauler8334
@swaghauler8334 Жыл бұрын
@@Menaceblue3 And true...
@riograndedosulball248
@riograndedosulball248 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like not even the Ukrainian batteries were expecting success against that thing, just were like "oh the corsairs are out there? let's annoy them", fired two missiles, and then, to their disbelief, it worked
@albusplaustrum06
@albusplaustrum06 11 ай бұрын
Moskva didn't sink, it was promoted to coral reef among great legends like Bismarck and Yamato.
@concernedimperialguardsman993
@concernedimperialguardsman993 11 ай бұрын
Nyet, Great Moskova was transferred to Black Sea Submarine fleet.
@albusplaustrum06
@albusplaustrum06 11 ай бұрын
@@concernedimperialguardsman993 Da, we know this but capitalist dogs must be surprised by greatest naval secrets.
@xxdrsomexx
@xxdrsomexx Жыл бұрын
22:13 I do feel genuinely bad for his family. Anyone from the US can recall the kabul bombing that killed several marines. Jared Smitch was one that went to my school, walked the same halls as me. And when I learned of his death I was holding back tears. I feel that same sadness for this boy who thought he had his whole life ahead of him brought to a end so quickly.
@otpezdal
@otpezdal Жыл бұрын
Yeah, what even this term: "went missing" Like there's SEA! How did he went missing there? Did he swim all the way to land in water like +4 celcius?
@panzerwolf494
@panzerwolf494 Жыл бұрын
@@otpezdal Well, if you think about it, Russia is about 50-100 years behind everyone else. And in that time frame it wasn't uncommon for millitaries to mark people as missing. America still has tons of missing from the Vietnam war
@h8GW
@h8GW Жыл бұрын
@يسوع هو الله حقًا Did you see the size of the hole on the Moskva? Warheads of that size often make things vaporize.
@h8GW
@h8GW Жыл бұрын
@XxdrsomexX It's quite ironic, because I'm sure he was smart enough to pass over their army for their navy because it was less likely for him to see combat. Although I would still pick serving in the Russian navy over its army _any day._
@InchonDM
@InchonDM Жыл бұрын
@@panzerwolf494 And the "POW-MIA" movement was a deliberate, cynical propaganda decision to get those families to remain perpetually invested in the war and become bottomless wells of anticommunism out of the desperate hope that their lost loved ones might actually be alive somewhere in Vietnam. Much as keeping twenty-seven men "missing" months after a ship's sinking is today.
@turtek12
@turtek12 Жыл бұрын
Your point about how the Muscovites never consider the contributions of their subordinate nations to the USSR's success reminds me of how they also like to talk about the 30 million "Russian" dead in the Great Patriotic War. Ignoring that millions of those were Ukrainians, Belarusians, Kazakhs, Uzbeks, etc. When one looks more closely at the USSR's history, one realizes that calling the USSR "Russia" is a real falsehood--so much of their military, scientific, and industrial talent wasn't Russian at all. But they haven't gotten that message--they haven't realized that they needed Ukraine a lot more than Ukraine ever needed them.
@joeblowe7545
@joeblowe7545 Жыл бұрын
The ideology, hubris, arrogance, and hatred all came from russia. Those are their major contributions to the USSR.
@aker1993
@aker1993 Жыл бұрын
Most of the high technology that came out of USSR are most are from Ukrainian and Belarussian design bureau to rocket engines to ships mostly came from Ukraine or Belarus and factories in Kharkiv up to Mariupol and across of soviet satellite States.
@megsisded8688
@megsisded8688 Жыл бұрын
Khrushchev and Brezhnev (born in Ukraine) were from Ukraine
@JRyan-lu5im
@JRyan-lu5im Жыл бұрын
@@joeblowe7545 Exactly the reason that Finland will never trust thier Russian neighbor. Russia since the Czars have attempted politically and militarily to occupy and colonize thier country. Thier arrogance and hatred as usual have led Finland from being an amicable brother 100 years ago to being an unfriendly rival now with thier threats and posturing.
@lordulberthellblaze6509
@lordulberthellblaze6509 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons why Zelensky's adviser Oleksiy Arestovich believes Ukraine to be the more legitimate inheritor of the legacy of the old Kyivan Rus, and that the current Russia is the modern incarnation of the Golden Horde.
@danielregnard882
@danielregnard882 Жыл бұрын
The fact that apparently Russian propaganda said Boris Johnson personally led commandos in Ukraine is baffling
@ernestaguirre4300
@ernestaguirre4300 Жыл бұрын
Something was lost in the translation: Boris didn't lead commandos, he went commando while partying in the Ukraine
@rangda_prime
@rangda_prime Жыл бұрын
Not really, if you see it from the Russian perspective. They live in a dictatorship with a literal strongman at the helm. All those pictures of Putin riding horses bare chested, doing judo and playing hockey - it's how they see leadership. A leader has to be strong and willing to fight. Of course it's all a lie since Putin and his cronies are hiding in their bunkers. But it's the picture of the world they've been selling their own people for decades. it's likely they've started to believe their own bullshit.
@MrFetalposition
@MrFetalposition Жыл бұрын
@@ernestaguirre4300 THAT on the other hand....
@plmokm33
@plmokm33 Жыл бұрын
Why do you think the man had to resign? Open your eyes sheeple!
@scout360pyroz
@scout360pyroz Жыл бұрын
russian propaganda at one point tried to claim that their gas shut down was SOOOOO effective that the UK was resorting to cannibalism.
@F3aredGenocide
@F3aredGenocide Жыл бұрын
The whole ending just brings to mind the old line "It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it."
@SurelyYewJest
@SurelyYewJest Жыл бұрын
We're plenty fond of it still, in spite of that. 😔
@0cypher0
@0cypher0 Жыл бұрын
Politicians are plenty fond of it as neither they nor their direct family are likely to fight on the front lines...
@F3aredGenocide
@F3aredGenocide Жыл бұрын
@@0cypher0 Too true mate, too true
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
@@0cypher0 Tbf, in most of ancient history, the leaders of kingdoms and empires often sent their families into warfare too. It's only relatively recently that leaders stay out of combat.
@randomtexanguy9563
@randomtexanguy9563 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenjenkins7971 also the leaders would also engage in combat sometimes
@aydenno1012
@aydenno1012 4 ай бұрын
Renaming the Moskva from Slava to Moskva is dumb as hell because in naval superstition renaming a ship gives very bad luck
@airplanemaster1
@airplanemaster1 3 ай бұрын
Generally, only if done in a slapdash, unofficial way. A relaunching ceremony with a new name as if the ship itself is new counters the bad luck.
@w5527
@w5527 Жыл бұрын
This man meme’d Russia, have comical dating advice, informed us on the Moskva, and humanized those lost in the war on Russia’s side and really showing how devastating war is in reality and how behind every causality is a human with goals and aspirations and a family who was with them. Goddamn this is an amazing video
@thewekender2701
@thewekender2701 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to add that he also managed to cram a lengthy anecdote that he had in Spain, while doing an animatic on top of the narration
@NightSkyNyx
@NightSkyNyx Жыл бұрын
@@thewekender2701 Indeed, this giga chad of a man gave the King of Spain finger guns and he answers back with his own finger guns. Absolutely legendary. (plus the way he was describing the "smuggest-looking asshole" holding the flowers and the supposed piece of the true cross was really funny to me lol)
@robinpage2730
@robinpage2730 Жыл бұрын
Bro, Russia meme'd itself
@theregalproletariat
@theregalproletariat Жыл бұрын
The dating advice sounds pretty good to me...
@stuartdollar9912
@stuartdollar9912 Жыл бұрын
@@theregalproletariat Treating women like human beings deserving of respect. What a concept!
@amduil8168
@amduil8168 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being those Russian sailors, knowing fully that your ship is nowhere near combat worthy. Knowing that you are being put out to sea as nothing more than a paper tiger. Solely there to put on the image that Russia owns the sea. It makes me sick to even think about it. And seeing that boy with his parents at the end just made me tear up.
@LoliLikesPedobear
@LoliLikesPedobear Жыл бұрын
Sad, but he really should never fucking ever join military or navy or anything defense related in Russia. We have some perfect words for this. Распиздяйство, головотяпство, русский авось, which translates roughly as sloppiness, incompetence, givenofuckery, luck reliance against command and reason and odds. Literally, guys, I think Russia was never properly occupied because nobody wants to live like this, it might be contagious, and the climate is bad. General Frost and cannon fodder are the one and only tactics Russian commanders ever employ
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 Жыл бұрын
TBF not a total paper tiger, they where able to fire missles at Ukrainians. Just couldn't handle any incoming fire.
@eannamcnamara9338
@eannamcnamara9338 Жыл бұрын
@@murphy7801 a glass Canon
@gundampharmacist7348
@gundampharmacist7348 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, LazerPig, for mentioning Mark at the end. It’s all too easy to distance and dehumanize those who are fighting, both on the other side of the world and the other side of the conflict. It’s all too easy to forget that they have mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, children, and communities. It’s all too easy to forget they too are just following orders, often just trying to survive day by day, and that their blood is what politicians safe in their comfy suits and offices trade in when they decide to go to war.
@Nyx_2142
@Nyx_2142 Жыл бұрын
Where else have I heard the "just following orders" thing? Huh. Strange.. think it rhymes with yahtzee. Maybe starts with an N? Ah, no matter, it'll come to me. Coincidentally they were conducting a genocide that the overwhelming majority of their population supported also. Apologists belong on the wall next to them.
@DakotaofRaptors
@DakotaofRaptors Жыл бұрын
Prinz Eugen is one of my favorite Kancolle ships Top tier waifu
@ProudSwed
@ProudSwed Жыл бұрын
Never pity scum that is volunteering for any Russian military service!
@user-fn2mx6dd5k
@user-fn2mx6dd5k 11 ай бұрын
There was a human in that photo?
@314rft
@314rft 11 ай бұрын
@@DakotaofRaptors Don't let LazerPig himself see this, or else he'll say "Didn't you even watch my video!?! I said NOT to go horny over inanimate objects!!!!!" But I agree, Kancolle Prinz Eugen is cute.
@GcubePlayer8
@GcubePlayer8 Жыл бұрын
It didn’t sink it just promoted to a submarine
@benchrant1782
@benchrant1782 10 ай бұрын
Would make sense since it has to sink capital ships while being invulnerable
@brianchan8
@brianchan8 9 ай бұрын
It’s hiding from the water tractors
@danieltobin4498
@danieltobin4498 Жыл бұрын
At first I was shocked that the Moskva was in such a sorry state but then I remembered that their sole aircraft carrier could no longer be used because of improper maintenance.
@420JackG
@420JackG Жыл бұрын
That POS makes sooooo much smoke. It basically telegraphs its location if it makes over 15 knots.
@daveharrison4697
@daveharrison4697 Жыл бұрын
@@420JackG Easiest way to cripple Russia's CVBG. Sink the commercial ocean-going tug that's hired to go with it everywhere...
@geopolitix7770
@geopolitix7770 Жыл бұрын
"Improper maintenence "... that's a polite way of putting it! I would've said "National Disgrace" but either way!🤗
@andrewshepherd1537
@andrewshepherd1537 Жыл бұрын
Oh you mean the one that had a boiler that looked more like an amalgamation of cancer cells than a proper boiler?
@jjcoola998
@jjcoola998 Жыл бұрын
People really underestimate how important the hundreds of people who keep each of these engineering marvels running in the us armed forces. When you cut corners and do not budget accordingly you get this.
@polstam9202
@polstam9202 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, seeing the state of the "flagship" makes you wonder if their nuclear arsenal is as much of a threat as Russia says it is
@anthonyrodriguez8788
@anthonyrodriguez8788 Жыл бұрын
well, the Russian Military has over 6000 nukes, even if only 10% of those nukes are actually viable weapons that's still 600 potential nuclear blasts.
@bluezebra2759
@bluezebra2759 Жыл бұрын
Even if just 1% is
@szabolcsmate5254
@szabolcsmate5254 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine how many rubles scrap dealers pay for a kg of weapons grade plutonium!
@bangscutter
@bangscutter Жыл бұрын
Considering the horrible negligence that this war has brought to light, it's short of a miracle that there hasn't been an accident with any of those 6000 nukes so far, if they are as poorly maintained as the rest of their military gear.
@markgallagher1790
@markgallagher1790 Жыл бұрын
Nuke is nuke. As for the rockets... That could be bad for other reasons
@themeddite2935
@themeddite2935 10 ай бұрын
"Lost their ship to a storm" Okay, that makes it sound WORSE than it getting lost to enemy fire.
@MrAWG9
@MrAWG9 Жыл бұрын
Speaking as an ex-sailor of the USN, it isn’t the sailors we fight, it is the ships. That goes for the USN, RN, MN, and any other proper Navy on earth. We have but one true enemy; the Sea. We save all we can from it.
@theroadstopshere
@theroadstopshere Жыл бұрын
Pure class for bringing the video to end on such a somber and empathetic note. You're a good man, Lazerpig, and while it was certainly a gut punch to be reminded of the senseless and horrible loss of young lives for the sake of old mens' grudges, mythologies, and egos, I appreciate the reminder. It really is easy to sit in comfort and make light of or abstract and distance outself from things across the world from us, even when we absolutely shouldn't. I hope the families of the men and women who have died needlessly in a war they never wanted to be part of will someday find peace and consolation, however hard that may be. Somberness aside for a moment, both a bit hopeful for the potential success of the ongoing Ukranian counter offensive, and feeling a small amount of amusement and pity for Lazerpig and other creators (Adam Something's deeply supportive but emotionally conflicted community posts come to mind) who had videos ready before everything went completely sideways. I've certainly had chaos injected into a project right before launch, but never like this That maintenance report was a genuinely horrifying read, holy shit. I can't even imagine the internal standards and external pressures which would make releasing such a vehicle into open waters acceptable. Slava Ukraini, may this horrible war be done sooner rather than later
@kingofcards9516
@kingofcards9516 Жыл бұрын
Amen, though I find it hard to feel pity for Adamsomething, considering he's a pretty far left guy who would probably be a Putin simp if he could.
@asgar1852
@asgar1852 Жыл бұрын
@@kingofcards9516 Do you think that just because he's left leaning?
@danielrogge3085
@danielrogge3085 Жыл бұрын
@@kingofcards9516 There's plenty of leftists who oppose Putin. Adam Something is one of them. I am another. There's some leftists who still mourn the Soviet Union and transfer those feelings onto modern Russia, or just are anti-American no matter what. Most of the global left stands with Ukraine. Slava ukraini!
@ryanmarquez9404
@ryanmarquez9404 Жыл бұрын
I am completely ok with the pain of Russian troops and their families. The ending brought me joy!
@kingofcards9516
@kingofcards9516 Жыл бұрын
@@danielrogge3085 I hope you are right, however I am still sceptical about anyone on the FAR left, especially when talking about Russia. And the far right though I haven't seen them as much, still. Slava Ukraini.
@davitdavid7165
@davitdavid7165 Жыл бұрын
As a Georgian, watching all of this is both sad and amazing. On one hand, this conflict has damaged my home to a ridiculous extent. On the other hand, there is now genuine hope that the border between Russia and Georgia will return to its pre-2008 position.
@SHVRWK
@SHVRWK Жыл бұрын
Russians bit off more than they can chew with Ukraine. It definitely feels bittersweet seeing the Russians getting their asses rocked after what they did to your country.
@karesi3842
@karesi3842 Жыл бұрын
With a pro-Russian government, this is doubtful.
@VidGamer123
@VidGamer123 Жыл бұрын
@@karesi3842 Never say never. Stranger things have happened.
@karesi3842
@karesi3842 Жыл бұрын
@@VidGamer123 I hope that you will be right
@hewhoplugwalks
@hewhoplugwalks Жыл бұрын
@@karesi3842 *Romania has entered the chat* Never say never, friend. If this riles people up enough, the government can find itself having a Ceausescu moment
@thesunexpress
@thesunexpress 3 ай бұрын
No Russian son at the table, but there is Lada in garage now.
@Scav271
@Scav271 3 ай бұрын
And extra bag of potatoes in kitchen
@WaspCameraInSpringfield
@WaspCameraInSpringfield 2 ай бұрын
@@Scav271 Remember the gummies. Trust the plan.
@gochi6542
@gochi6542 Жыл бұрын
I can never imagine the American military letting their equipment fall into such a state. They’re so strict and every soldier knows the value of the gear that will potentially save their lives
@pogostix6097
@pogostix6097 Жыл бұрын
“The entire country relies on the work of a fare-gone empire with no understanding of how that empire was built and with none of the framework of that empire in place to support it.” Not to try to minimize the war and suffering going on in Ukraine, but that sounds like the basis for a killer post-apocalyptic fantasy/sci-fi setting.
@randomcenturion7264
@randomcenturion7264 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Some Warhammer 40K stuff right there.
Жыл бұрын
where my STCs at?
@obamayomama8291
@obamayomama8291 Жыл бұрын
Fallout moment
@GeorgeSemel
@GeorgeSemel Жыл бұрын
The Tsars built the country, the Soviets lived off of that, and the Russian Federation is living off the carcass of the Soviets. Every thing that is admirable about Russia was created in the time of the Tsars. They may not have been perfect but they sure has hell was a damn sight better than what replaced them.
@BongwaterSlurpee
@BongwaterSlurpee Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeSemel The tsars didn't build shit, they ran Russia as a serfdom economy. The soviets industrialised the country and turned it from a big joke into the world's second superpower. Only after that did corruption hollow it from the inside out.
@AnythingMachine
@AnythingMachine Жыл бұрын
You guys like lazerpig? His early work was a little too reformer centric for my tastes, but when the Russo-Ukraine war came out in '22, I think he really came into his own, commercially and artistically. His whole channel has a clear, crisp presentation, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the content a big boost. He's been compared to Battle Order, but I think Lazerpig has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humour In '22, Lazerpig released this, 'Putin's Big Oof', his most accomplished commentary. But I think his undisputed masterpiece is "The T34 is not as good as you think it is", a video so hilarious, most people probably don't listen to the military history. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of standardisation, and the importance of quality control, it's also a personal statement about Lazerpig himself.
@MistahFox
@MistahFox Жыл бұрын
Hello NCD
@fluffynator6222
@fluffynator6222 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I came here with his WW1 tank rant and thoroughly enjoyed him dunking on underinformed idiots ever since.
@jackreeder215
@jackreeder215 Жыл бұрын
Hey Gonzalo
@AndreGamerSpecial
@AndreGamerSpecial Жыл бұрын
I dunno I love drinking as much as he is and that's the cause
@torakazu2269
@torakazu2269 Жыл бұрын
is this a copypasta
@strakhovandrri
@strakhovandrri Ай бұрын
It's rare to hear from a western source that Russians are people too, and ordinary Russians are not evil orcs. Thank you.
@positron3887
@positron3887 Жыл бұрын
I love how he gets the pronouns of the Moskva right. Extreme quality even down to the smallest details.
@EvLSpectre
@EvLSpectre Жыл бұрын
Pretty much every ship is referred to in the female form in the past. I think it was the Bismarck CMDR that referred to it as he. It's less common now to have a ship female, but still it's the general rule.
@snowfie4836
@snowfie4836 Жыл бұрын
@@EvLSpectre Russia however, is Russia. So they refer to all warships as male.
@keith6706
@keith6706 Жыл бұрын
@@snowfie4836 And all apparently have performance issues.
@Xenomorthian
@Xenomorthian 10 ай бұрын
​@@keith6706its impossible to have performance issues if your ship is a she. It gets wet it works
@matasa7463
@matasa7463 10 ай бұрын
@@snowfie4836 lol, almost comically insecure, to the point of not even following naval traditions. The old Ukrainian built Slava deserved better, and I will refer to her as the Slava from now on.
@kieranwalsh2058
@kieranwalsh2058 Жыл бұрын
That ending hit pretty hard, and it was needed. Thank you Lazerpig for reminding us that the war isn’t just maps and notifications. There are tens of thousands of people that’ll never come home, or never say goodbye to their loved ones one last time.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 Жыл бұрын
It’s important to remember it. If one were actually in the fight, there is a psychological purpose (maybe even a necessity) to dehumanize the poor bastards shooting at you and being shot at by you. It’s really a tradition of war to call the enemy derogatory nicknames. For example, Germans in WWI were called Huns, in WWII they were called Krauts. So the Russians are called Orcs. And it’s not that weird a comparison due to Putin being similar to Sauron in most ways. (The biggest difference being that Putin’s ring is undergoing prolapse.) I save my breath in criticizing non fighters calling Russians Orcs. If white people are going to criticize other white people, who am I to argue? I do feel sympathy for the Russian dead, the crippled, and their families. But that sympathy is dwarfed by the deep sadness I feel for all of Ukraine.
@usarok85
@usarok85 Жыл бұрын
I agree, but how do people, like me, try not to feel relieved when a regiment that was at Bucha and Irpin is completely erased from existence? I know there are so many young boys that suffered at the hands of Putin's ambitions. But they were his tools in perpetuating an array of violence against innocent people, including other children. When a Russians die it is a harsh reason to be happy only because it means we are that much closer to the end of this war. There are a lot of Marks (is that how its spelled even in Russian?) out there on that side. Guys that don't want to be there, and don't have the means to kill their commander to leave the battlefield.
@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054
@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 Жыл бұрын
"There are tens of thousands of people that’ll never come home, or never say goodbye to their loved ones one last time." Yeah, only and entirely because of the Russians.
@MotorcycleWrites
@MotorcycleWrites Жыл бұрын
@@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 it’s 100% the Russian’s fault as a collective, that doesn’t make it not sad for every individual who dies. That kid just wanted to drive trains and needed to go through military service to do that. It’s still sad that he died even if his country started the war. Don’t get me wrong, even more sad that Russia is putting Ukraine through this pointless war. It’s just important to remember that we’re all humans.
@mrmacias4217
@mrmacias4217 Жыл бұрын
Like the 90k demilitarized Ukrainians
@zachscarbrough2727
@zachscarbrough2727 Жыл бұрын
I actually looked up the report on the Moskva. That thing read like an Engineers horror novel. If a US captain let their ship become THAT bad, they would either be court martialed or mutinied faster than they could say FUBAR.
@youraveragescotsman7119
@youraveragescotsman7119 Жыл бұрын
Gimme a live stream of RN and USN Captains allowed 2 hours on ANY Russian vessel just to watch them SHRED the Russian crews.
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 Жыл бұрын
@@youraveragescotsman7119 marine nationale not acceptable 😂
@gehtdichnixan9005
@gehtdichnixan9005 Жыл бұрын
@@youraveragescotsman7119 Well, what can the crew do about the government/ministry of defence/some officer embezzling not providing proper maintenance to one of their most powerful vessels? If anything the captains would've told them to turn the ship in to the next port and buy them some drinks...
@ProjectXA3
@ProjectXA3 Жыл бұрын
I keep expecting to read someone with experience in it to say that if a us captain let their ship get THAT bad they might just get fucking shot
@jamesmoore6752
@jamesmoore6752 Жыл бұрын
Any chance you'd have a link to said report?? I'm dying to see what it says.
@sniperfity2327
@sniperfity2327 9 ай бұрын
"I gave the king of Spain finger guns and he did them back" litterally top tier content
@paladinsion3415
@paladinsion3415 Жыл бұрын
Watching this actually hit my emotionally. I have friends from both Countries. I have one who just returned to his home city in Ukraine after getting injured and another who has been stuck in Crimea since Russia invaded back in 2014. They took his Ukrainian Passport and wont let him leave without server in the army first. One of my friends was able to make it to Poland another to Egypt for now. Its a mad world now. The Ukrainian people have more pride than most Americans, they fight for what they believe in. Titan amongst men.
@WinVisten
@WinVisten Жыл бұрын
If they're more proud than US, that says a whole HELL of a lot.
@paladinsion3415
@paladinsion3415 Жыл бұрын
@@WinVisten I think I understand your statement. Yes, they have more pride for their country than most americans do.
@DR-pu5hm
@DR-pu5hm Жыл бұрын
Fun little story. Back in 2008 or so I was stationed on the USS Frank Cable- a "non combatant" submarine tender and we steamed with some Russian ships to do a memorial for lost Russian submariners. it was us, a US Navy destroyer, and 2 Russian ships ( The Varyag- a ship identical to the Moskva, and some Russian destroyer). The Varyag was recently overhauled and recommissioned, and had issues multiple times. I remember at least 3 instances when we were steaming in formation that we had to do circles for hours because the Varyag would have engine issues. which they claimed were "training exercises". Twice it billowed out black smoke and the engines completely died and the destroyer had to come along side and provide support. The ship either didnt have any laundry facilities, or their facilities were broken, because all the Russian sailors had to hang their clothes outside the ship to dry them. When we got to Vladivostok and I got the opportunity to chat with Russian sailors it became apparent how terrible a condition their naval forces are. The conscripts have zero esprit de corps or morale, they eat poorly, get paid even more poorly, and from the sound of it they rarely do any training because they just dont have the fuel and funds to do training exercises.
@voodoodummie
@voodoodummie Жыл бұрын
I've heard here and there how this connect to the deep rooted corruption of the Russian government. The state would actually issue funds for training and repairs, but of course those funds would disappear in some decorated pocket. On paper the trainings were done "but it did happen to be more expensive than expected" and ditto for repairs. As for the actual training there have been reports of soldiers essentially just running laps, as that is cheap. The crux however is that Russia installed such crooked officers because they are crooked, ergo, easily bought and loose with rules. That is if the officer didn't just buy the position from the higher officer for "mutual benefit." And today we can see just how far corruption, if widespread enough for enough time, can absolutely rot away an army. The army never expected to be used as an army, they had cushy jobs embezzling funds away. Russia's army is a parade army, and it is sad that they've send the world's largest marching band to their deaths.
@West_Coast_Gang
@West_Coast_Gang Жыл бұрын
Man
@nbewarwe
@nbewarwe Жыл бұрын
Ironic how the gas station with a flag doesn't have enough fuel to train their navy.
@Matsumoto77
@Matsumoto77 Жыл бұрын
@@nbewarwe because it was all sold off by the commanders for money, corruption is insane in the russian forces
@Alb410
@Alb410 Жыл бұрын
@@nbewarwe trains dont go underwater :/
@flubdgub
@flubdgub Жыл бұрын
So aside from none of the 3 anti missile defences working, the missile defence radar couldn’t lock onto targets, the dual cannon broken due to hydraulic leak, the damage control systems all broken, the leaking watertight doors, hundreds of missing fire extinguishers out of 500, the engines past their service replacement date, the control systems inoperable or missing indicator lights, steering gear partially jammed, and the entire ship having heating and cooling problems, the Moskva was basically in great shape?
@lunarcultist6214
@lunarcultist6214 Жыл бұрын
I mean, it was really pretty to look at...
@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054
@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 Жыл бұрын
It was probably the best maintained ship of the Russian navy
@Diannalover
@Diannalover Жыл бұрын
"Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?"
@StoutShako
@StoutShako Жыл бұрын
SATISFACTORY shape, comrade.
@nathaniellindner313
@nathaniellindner313 Жыл бұрын
"Hey, it can float, it can shoot, it's probably fine that it's in worse shape to protect itself than a battlecruiser from WWI, just launch the damn thing before Putin calls us"
@EddyOfTheMaelstrom
@EddyOfTheMaelstrom Жыл бұрын
Taking the time to humanize the enemy and remind us that war is Hell has earned you every bit of my subscription and support. It's one thing to pick a side and support what you believe is right, it's another thing to not acknowledge the humanity being wasted in this war.
@thatoneguy5856
@thatoneguy5856 Жыл бұрын
It’s the only part of the video I disliked tbh. Because Russians are orcs, not humans.
@0cypher0
@0cypher0 Жыл бұрын
I'm active duty military and I personally see this whole continuation of the invasion of Ukraine as a waste of human life. In my opinion this whole conflict should have been over before the end of the first month as neither the diplomatic nor the military goals have succeeded at all are within Russian reach. For example: Russia wanted an end to NATO expansion towards the Russian border, instead it swung opinion on joining in both Sweden and Finland, resulting in NATO now having even more direct border area with Russia. Capturing and controlling Ukraine is impossible, Russian forces lacked the means to push through in the first place and didn't have logistic support to get anywhere near Kyiv, on top of that, given the size of the Ukrainian population and its land mass, it would require every single Russian soldier of all services to be in Ukraine to occupy the country if it was completely pacified. Spoiler alert: it isn't, and it would take a military at least triple that of what Russia can muster to successfully occupy Ukraine if it were to have any serious partizan resistance movement, which it definitely will. And finally, the Ukrainian view of Russia as a country with which to want a positive diplomatic and trade relationship has been completely destroyed for generations to come. Chances of getting a pro-Russian leader back in power in Ukraine have become absolute zero, and even if the Russians managed to somehow make it to the point where they conquer Ukraine and install a puppet government, whoever is running that government would end up blown up, shot, stabbed, poisoned or accidentally decapitated whilst shaving. I take no pleasure in people of either side being sacrificed on the altar of imperialistic dreams of a madman wanting to return to the territorial boundaries of the 1917 Russian empire. This does not affect my willingness to provide military support to Ukraine in its efforts to maintain and retain its the integrity of its borders to their 2014 positions though.
@Nyx_2142
@Nyx_2142 Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes. Couldn't imagine not humanizing an army of subhuman criminals, rapists, torturers, and murderers. Hundreds of thousands of children kidnapped, children dying in torture chambers, buried in mass graves, mass bombardment of civilian areas. But would somebody please think of poor little Ivan and his dreams while he commits genocide and "just follows orders."
@EddyOfTheMaelstrom
@EddyOfTheMaelstrom Жыл бұрын
@@Nyx_2142 you get nervous when you order coffee, you never make eye contact in public, and you have never spent more than 20 seconds reading about current events.
@thatoneguy5856
@thatoneguy5856 Жыл бұрын
@@EddyOfTheMaelstrom first of all, the first two things you said are simply irrelevant ad homenem. and second of all, he's right, Russians are orcs, they deserve no empathy because they have none.
@97marqedman
@97marqedman Жыл бұрын
Ah, the Moskva…sunk by a crew member’s errant sneeze.
@logicplague
@logicplague Жыл бұрын
Chernobyl, 1986 "Where's the good dosimeter?" "It's in the safe." Moskva, 2022 "Where's the safety equipment?" "It's locked up." The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@viktorshevchenko3888
@viktorshevchenko3888 Жыл бұрын
The russians were wise enough to dig trenches and dugouts in the restricted area of Chernobyl and sit there for weeks knowing nothing about huge radiation and about the nuclear contamination since 1986.
@martinbruhn5274
@martinbruhn5274 Жыл бұрын
The ship didn't sink! It was promoted to being a submarine
@sanghelian
@sanghelian Жыл бұрын
special bottom of the sea operation
@agoosewithinternetaccessan3218
@agoosewithinternetaccessan3218 Жыл бұрын
@@sanghelian SBTSO
@echos5823
@echos5823 Жыл бұрын
@@sanghelian special operation to hunt down known NATO-Nazi Amerikkkanski SpongeBormann.
@arandommemer9926
@arandommemer9926 Жыл бұрын
Tactically advancing. . . *downwards*
@ericwolf9664
@ericwolf9664 Жыл бұрын
😂That was a good joke. Here is a well deserved cookie.🍪
@TheBeach14
@TheBeach14 Ай бұрын
Moskva has a lot friends now.
@bensigl3766
@bensigl3766 Жыл бұрын
"Court-martial? Shit, the crew would've taped the Captain to a radio mast with his pants down before allowing a ship to get into that condition!" I never served, but my neighbor/lodge brother served his entire adult life. I played the Moskva report section for him and his head was in his hands, shaking rhythmically within 5 seconds. The quote above is his. Lol
@privatehudson516
@privatehudson516 Жыл бұрын
The last time Russian Navy failed this spectacularly was during the battle of Tsushima against Imperial Japan. Ironically during that battle the Japanese Admiral Togo Heihachiro waved a “Z” flag to signal to his fleet that they must achieve victory.
@sto1238
@sto1238 Жыл бұрын
Somewhere in the afterlife Togo is laughing his ass off
@charlesc.9012
@charlesc.9012 Жыл бұрын
They had a blue water navy to fail at, which is something they didn't have since 1917
@nerissacrawford8017
@nerissacrawford8017 9 ай бұрын
OMG so the Russian regime is pretty butthurt bunch! 🤣 'Now I use the Z because now it is my Z!' LMAO
@darianbrowning1608
@darianbrowning1608 9 ай бұрын
Nelson signaled "England expects that every man will do his duty" at Trafalgar. Quite similar.
@SIXITHS
@SIXITHS 8 ай бұрын
@@darianbrowning1608 Admiral Tōgō spent 7 years in the Royal Navy, starting as a cadet. Nelson's famous signal would have been known to him.
@cheeseninja1115
@cheeseninja1115 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you didn't glorify war at the end. It is important to remember, war is hell. No matter which side of it you are on, there is always a sad story to tell when war comes.
@ivangenov6782
@ivangenov6782 Жыл бұрын
War isn't hell, in hell only those suffer who deserved it, in war, the innocent suffer the most
@Allstar-yl1ek
@Allstar-yl1ek Жыл бұрын
@@ivangenov6782 Depends on who you ask. Some people have a pretty wild idea of what tiny infraction will get you into hell.
@ivangenov6782
@ivangenov6782 Жыл бұрын
@@Allstar-yl1ek i think the more wild people deserve hell, those who rape, steal, all that jazz, except for murder, some murders are justified but others arent so it depends on the context
@kronos661
@kronos661 Жыл бұрын
@@Allstar-yl1ek WE, humans have hard time agreeing with each other on moral values. Try discussing it with the creator.
@Allstar-yl1ek
@Allstar-yl1ek Жыл бұрын
@@kronos661 Sure. Send them my way if you see them.
@Wonder_Wondering
@Wonder_Wondering 8 ай бұрын
Fun little piece of maritime superstition Renaming a ship is bad luck. No wonder it sank.
@NapoleanBlown-aparte
@NapoleanBlown-aparte 6 ай бұрын
No wonder they let the uss gyatt sink, it was doomed either way.
@Wonder_Wondering
@Wonder_Wondering 6 ай бұрын
@@NapoleanBlown-aparte every time I hear something about the USS Gyatt I have to ask if it's real
@NapoleanBlown-aparte
@NapoleanBlown-aparte 6 ай бұрын
@@Wonder_Wondering this is a certified humanity is going downhill moment
@samstarkweather5172
@samstarkweather5172 Жыл бұрын
I have a grim theory: Russia severely understates its war dead by claiming them as "missing," this gives the families false hope to encourage the war further if only to find their lost sons, and it means the Russian government doesn't have to pay out for that soldier's death. The problem is that Ukraine has been giving Russian POWs phone calls home when captured, so if a Russian soldier stops communicating with their families and they don't send that POW phone call, it's likely that they've been killed. The Russian people are just as much victims in this war as anyone else. Putin's regime wants the glory and legacy of expanding Russia's border, no matter what cost. The families of the fallen are left to grieve alone because the Kremlin doesn't want the true scope of Russian losses to be known. Therefore, no one is allowed to talk or communicate with anyone about the war lest they risk going to prison for spreading "misinformation" or even for referring to it as a war.
@bolikde9389
@bolikde9389 Жыл бұрын
Familys of dead Russian soldiers get money as compensation. But if they are M.I.A the Gouverment dosent need to pay.
@davadoff
@davadoff Жыл бұрын
They’re not victims. They’re guilty of supporting the Putin regime and probably staying silent when international laws are broken and atrocities are committed. It’s not as though the propaganda is sophisticated. They can get online and find out the truth. The gov not allowing dissenting voices is a huge and obvious red flag.
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689 Жыл бұрын
Sounds very plausible.
@kemarisite
@kemarisite 9 ай бұрын
As it turns out, Perun has indicated that it appears that Russia is understating it's losses by the simple and ingenious method of *not counting* the local forces of the DNR and LPR.
@samstarkweather5172
@samstarkweather5172 9 ай бұрын
@kemarisite oh for sure. Any way that the Kremlin can fudge their numbers, they're taking it.
@higen0
@higen0 Жыл бұрын
Damn, war documentation has advanced. If you bring someone from the 40s to present day and you tell him that there are live maps of a current war, footage from the soldier's perspective and a talking pig is presenting the current events of said war he'll probably think you're insane.
@senorpepper3405
@senorpepper3405 Жыл бұрын
They would think it was heaven or hell
@Hexigonic
@Hexigonic Жыл бұрын
Oh and soldiers literally doing tiktoks, I’ve seen a video of two Ukrainian soldiers getting sturdy.
@tisanaluk
@tisanaluk Жыл бұрын
Well.... If it is not for OPSEC (Operation Security). I do believe we gonna see a headcam live stream by now.
@Jeff_the_Hobo
@Jeff_the_Hobo Жыл бұрын
_"Y- You mean like Porky Pig?"_
@mukariakimbui467
@mukariakimbui467 Жыл бұрын
The talking pig would be the most believable part.
@ADVBCAT
@ADVBCAT Жыл бұрын
Naval engineer here. The reason you would have the firefighting equipment on the deck spraying into the air like that is because there is a crossover valve between the bilge system and the firefighting system that can be opened to allow the firefighting system to pull from the bilges, instead of from seawater outside the ship like it normally does. (The bilge system is the system of pumps that takes up water that accumulates in the low points throughout the bottom of the ship, whether in small amounts during normal service, or in emergencies. If your bilge system is overwhelmed by flow rate of incoming water and needs the firefighting pumps and hoses to help deal with things, you are in big trouble.) I've never heard the "sign of respect" thing, but it may be true. But you're basically always going to see that on a sinking ship either way, because it's part of the process of trying to bail it out. Note that you are likely relying on emergency generators to power the bilge and firefighting systems at this point, because I would imagine the main powerplant is underwater. Emergency generators are always found up in the superstructure, so they will be among the last things to sink. However, they can run out of fuel.
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 Жыл бұрын
I interpreted that as the crossing of the streams being the sign of respect and a visual signal that the ship is doomed, but I've no idea if that's true. I can only speak to how I heard what was said.
@devindeocharan8323
@devindeocharan8323 Жыл бұрын
I can easily see it turn into sign of respect and that if a doomed ship. Afterall, if procedures occurs shortly before a ships sinking could easily become a tradition, with meaning given to it. We humans done it before, and probably did it here again
@keyl1m382
@keyl1m382 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the wealth of information you provided for us! Thank you!
@Tasca_Lumina
@Tasca_Lumina Жыл бұрын
The water streams originate from a ship behind the "Moskva". The fallen over antenna in front of the radar make it look like crossed streams, but the "Moskva" does not have any water monitors at this location, neither does she seem to have the power to operate any of her own firefighting equipment.
@31knots50
@31knots50 Жыл бұрын
Just going off of your answer not sure if you're a Naval Engineer or a MARITIME Engineer. But on Western Naval vessels none of them are set up this way what so ever. The bilge is known to have water from condensation mixed with oil from small seepage and leakage of various systems over time or from small spills as sailors do maintenance. You'd never want to spray that water anywhere near where you have a fire going on. In fact the pumps that remove bilge water would be aligned to dump that water overboard in the event of an engine room casualty while spraying foam and seawater onto the fire in the space to remove any leaking fuel or oil to not have cascading fires. The pumps for firefighting water are also located under the engines on every Naval vessel that I've been on due to their design characteristics, and if you didn't have enough pressure or lost a pump in one space you'd activate more in other spaces and would secure firefighting water going to equipment that's not needed for the situation to keep the ship alive. Lastly most ships don't have emergency generators just redundant main generators in a system where you don't need all of the power of the other generators and for ships with emergency diesels they're located above the waterline but there's definitely no space for them in super structures.
@theeNappy
@theeNappy Жыл бұрын
I hope no one thinks it gauche to mention it here but I genuinely think LazerPig has more genuine sympathy for the Russians getting killed in this war than Gonzalo Lira has.
@LordNinja109
@LordNinja109 Жыл бұрын
Not gauche at all. Lazerpig has been to Russia several times and even dated a Russian. He doesn't want more dead Russians, he just wants a free Ukraine.
@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818
@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818 Жыл бұрын
that's because gonzalo liar doesn't actually care about russia or ukraine for that matter. He just wants a world where blatant imperialism and military conquest is totally OK.
@tetispinkman9135
@tetispinkman9135 Жыл бұрын
When did russians cared about other russians?
@Someguyfromtheinternet36
@Someguyfromtheinternet36 11 ай бұрын
"Are we boned?"-Moskova's crew before the impact,who were,in fact boned.
@random_tristan
@random_tristan Жыл бұрын
As a 19 year old. It fills me with dread hearing about Mark’s death and his poor parents not knowing his fate.
@BiohazardCrow
@BiohazardCrow Жыл бұрын
The worst part is that the parents and friends don't even now if he's truly dead. He could be crazy and in a mental assylum. MIA (Missing In Action) is worse that death. Because at least in death you can grieve his memory and say goodbye.
@burnerheinz
@burnerheinz Жыл бұрын
Poor dude just wanted to drive a choo Choo man.
@IsraelCountryCube
@IsraelCountryCube Жыл бұрын
Its sad moskva sunk rip
@ArtjomKoslow
@ArtjomKoslow Жыл бұрын
@@BiohazardCrow They also can´t get Compensation. He´s not officially dead. It might seem minor or outright ignorant to think about Money in this Instance but the Army will only compensate them if their Son is KIA.
@skipperglume
@skipperglume Жыл бұрын
do not worry, his family will get a new Lada
@Moadeeb_
@Moadeeb_ Жыл бұрын
"There is no glory gained in the blood of children" You hit the nail directly on the head sir. 100% worth the wait.
@marks7484
@marks7484 Жыл бұрын
To be completely (cynicaly) honest, anyone can define whatever he wants to be glorious or shameful.
@marks7484
@marks7484 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I know this was written half a year ago, but I still felt like commenting.
@h8GW
@h8GW Жыл бұрын
@Marks Yes, but it's generally consensus among society that makes a personal value moral or not.
@marks7484
@marks7484 Жыл бұрын
@@h8GW true, tho society itself can have a rather flawed morality.
@joshuakage8703
@joshuakage8703 5 ай бұрын
Unexpectable commentary on the true cost of war - the empty seat at the family dinner. Something I rarely see on any newsite or web video. Well done good sir, well done.
@user-ck3uu8rj3x
@user-ck3uu8rj3x 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps the remainder of the russian flleet stays in port because the water is shallower and so salvaging is cheaper.
@maplegumm
@maplegumm Жыл бұрын
“-And due to constant theft the safety equipment had to be locked away” oh my goodness gracious
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
typical russian things
@RipOffProductionsLLC
@RipOffProductionsLLC Жыл бұрын
Yeah, theft is a huge issue in the Russian military, one of the reasons for the initial invasion staling was that troops had been selling fuel for drinking money under the assumption that the war wasn't going to happen
@Wanderer628
@Wanderer628 Жыл бұрын
I've been saying it for a while, Russia, with a smaller economy than Italy, is talking out of its ass about its military. They claimed they have hypersonic missiles, one of the biggest armies in the world, fifth gen fighters, fourth gen tanks, largest nuclear stockpile in the world, massive fleets of aircraft and a massive fleet of naval vessels. There is no fucking way they could maintain all that with the budget they had. Turns out, as is said in the video, it was empty bluster. Even assuming half their shit even performs as well as they claim and it's not just empty boasts, it could never do the job because underneath the polished frame that gets paraded on red sqaure is nothing but rust and decay.
@williamnixon3994
@williamnixon3994 Жыл бұрын
And even if they are properly cared for and maintained, with disciplined soldiers in those tanks, you can be damn well sure they have only a limited run of those fanciful pieces of equipment just so they can claim to have it, because they don't have the money to actually spread them throughout their military. The T-14 armata, and the Su-57 are the first to come to mind in my opinion
@serjacklucern4584
@serjacklucern4584 Жыл бұрын
Italy is stuck in a Economic crisis since 2008, but italian ship are in much better shape than any russian warship will ever be. Oh by the way, the Longobardo photo of those russian ship were pretty good for a 30+ years submarine...
@MyFunnyVids888
@MyFunnyVids888 Жыл бұрын
@@williamnixon3994 reminds me of the 1944 hitler's wunderwaffe shit. "Oh all we need is the Maus and we're saved we'll win the war"
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 Жыл бұрын
@@williamnixon3994 Showroom models. Arms exports were Russia’s second most important sector, after the Oil and Gas Sector. I’ve heard reports that 20 T-14s were built (which is not a meaningful quantity), but I’ve only seen a video of two in a parade. If you haven’t seen it, check out Perun’s video All Bling, No Basics. His contention (backed by evidence) is that Putin has had 8 or more years to prepare his military for the invasion of Ukraine, but focused on the showy bling for prestige and for sales.
@Aqueox
@Aqueox Жыл бұрын
Whoah. Since fucking WHEN did Russia have an economy smaller than wannabe Rome? 👀👀👀👀 That's crazy.
@PhillyRacer121
@PhillyRacer121 4 ай бұрын
As a diesel mechanic the 10,000hrs over engine service life got me. 10,000 hrs is the equivalent of 500,000mi/804672km for a commercial truck. I assume no substantial service was done in that time either. Thats like pulling an engine out of a car with 200000mi on it and putting it in a new car without rebuilding it and calling it good for another 10 years. Ffs.
@entropynme
@entropynme 8 ай бұрын
As a former submariner on a Virginia, it's absolutely unfathomable to me how that ship was allowed to go into combat with that many brokedick systems. I guess all of Russia's schemes hinged on nobody testing the facade of their potemkin village, but now that its evident the whole fucking thing is just crashing down and its wonderful to watch
@joshbell8346
@joshbell8346 Жыл бұрын
Russia: claims moskva caught fire in rough weather If the FLAGSHIP of the black sea fleet is catching fire because of rough weather, that just tells you something about Russia's competence in building warships
@JohnWilliamNowak
@JohnWilliamNowak Жыл бұрын
She was built in Ukraine.
@Lightscribe225
@Lightscribe225 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnWilliamNowak Ironic then it dies to Ukraine
@ProxiProtogen
@ProxiProtogen Жыл бұрын
@@JohnWilliamNowak but owned by Russians and wasn't maintained
@consumerofbepsi5254
@consumerofbepsi5254 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnWilliamNowak Ukrainians weren't the ones maintaining it though lol, any war machine can become a hunk of scrap if it isn't repaired
@JohnWilliamNowak
@JohnWilliamNowak Жыл бұрын
@@consumerofbepsi5254 Agreed; never said the opposite.
@reecedrystek2992
@reecedrystek2992 Жыл бұрын
Let's just remember that the Russian Navy is the only one that has an Ocean Tug as part of their Carrier Strike Group because they are more likely to need a tow than perform exercises. Then once you get your Carrier back to port it lights on fire, so you put it into a floating drydock for repairs and the drydock sinks. So now you have a burnt carrier that can't be fixed. That is the current state of the Russian Navy.
@kevinhenrique4256
@kevinhenrique4256 Жыл бұрын
2 months after this comment and their carrier is on fire again.... Huh
@freeze459
@freeze459 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinhenrique4256 it's a regularly scheduled thing at this point
@314rft
@314rft Жыл бұрын
That's what happens when all military spending gets siphoned into oligarch's pockets.
@pancholopez8829
@pancholopez8829 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Akmiral Kruvetska (I buthered it, but you know who I'm referring to.)
@314rft
@314rft Жыл бұрын
@@pancholopez8829 You mean Admiral Kuznetsov?
@cranedaddy678
@cranedaddy678 Жыл бұрын
During my time in the US Navy we were on deployment in the Med and did some sort of swap with the Russian navy. Our ships met up in the Med and we had a small group of our sailors visit their ship and a small group of their sailors visited our ship. Our guys that went to their ship were appalled at the condition it was in. They said the ship was like a teenagers room. Their was shit everywhere, it was nasty and not well maintained so hearing the alleged state of the Moskva is no surprise.
@RamdomView
@RamdomView 9 ай бұрын
Any literal shit?
@cranedaddy678
@cranedaddy678 9 ай бұрын
@@RamdomView no not literally
@isaaccopher3532
@isaaccopher3532 Жыл бұрын
"There is no glory gained in the blood of children." -LazerPig. This has been the consensus sense 'The Grate War'
@rodo9566
@rodo9566 Жыл бұрын
"There is no glory gained in the blood of children" you are touching the peak LazerPig. My little brother is 19 y.o. and those parents faces looked like my parent's when by little bro exited highschool with the highest score. Cried at the end... I, or may I say, We are so proud of you and your work!
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale Жыл бұрын
Hypocrisy, when those 'boys' bomb children's hospitals and rape girls. There's the blood of children. On Russian hands.
@MechWarrior894
@MechWarrior894 Жыл бұрын
I believe it’s a good thing that Laserpig brought up Mark and how he was one of those 26, it makes us understand how real this shit is and how irresponsible the Russian government is for the sheer level of incompetence and neglect that has plagued the army. Perhaps this should be a learning experience for the world on how important maintenance is. I get the feeling that our infrastructure is going to collapse sooner than later.
@jamesharding3459
@jamesharding3459 Жыл бұрын
Fuck that noise. I don't believe for a moment the bullshit about Russians being duped into this war, and they sure as hell aren't putting a stop to it. Every one of them that dies is one fewer ork to rape and murder and terrorize. Remember Bucha. Remember Mariupol.
@rodo9566
@rodo9566 Жыл бұрын
@@MechWarrior894 "our" infrastructure?
@navb0tactual
@navb0tactual Жыл бұрын
@@rodo9566 All across the US their infrastructure is reaching critical points. Bridges, tunnels, highways, etc. Many need replacing, repairing, or even rerouting. If it is not done sooner the consequences will be that of blood and even more money.
@philswift791
@philswift791 Жыл бұрын
I was a soldier I have spent my time fighting in wars, my body is broken, I lost so many friends. I lost my home and family. Nothing that we handed to the political class was capitalized on, they have wasted every opportunity we gave them. It wasn't worth it at all, except for the friends I still have and the men I served with. Thank you for acknowledging that young man while we would have been on opposite sides. I have known many like him and I miss them all.
@Bandrik
@Bandrik Жыл бұрын
Well said. My somber condolences to you for your losses and horrors you have witnessed during your time serving, and especially how it felt wasted. Keep the memory of your lost friends close and you will continue to honor their sacrifice. Thank you for sharing your story. I hope others can learn from and appreciate the perspective you have shown us.
@jjcoola998
@jjcoola998 Жыл бұрын
This is pretty much my dads attitude, he was drafted into Vietnam and wrote a scathing end of your report about everything wrong with the war
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
talking pig are you hungry?
@EB_110
@EB_110 Жыл бұрын
By saying the cause of the Moskova sunk was a internal explosion, Russia is basically putting it entirely in their own incompetence to maintain the ship, instead of admiting Ukraine's competence in attacking it.
@eccentricgamer4111
@eccentricgamer4111 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, it makes you wonder what the Kremlin propagandists were smoking when they thought that cover story sounded better than simply admitting that the Ukrainians did it. In that sense, they've painted a picture of their sailors dying pointless deaths from their own incompetence rather than going out honorably in combat. I can't imagine that the families of those killed on board Moskva are very happy about that.
@35Cypher
@35Cypher Жыл бұрын
"Imangine if I had a cute anime boy" And that kids is how Falcon's Fighter Tales was born.
@SWBF2-2005IsBestStfu
@SWBF2-2005IsBestStfu Жыл бұрын
Lazer Pig: "I may be Late to the party" Late, but accurate and balanced
@alexisfights5773
@alexisfights5773 Жыл бұрын
"The Moskva does not have ground-attack missiles" Yes, that's true, however using anti-ship or anti-aircraft missile in a ground attack role isn't uncommon for Russia. In fact, we've seen S-300 being used as ground attack missiles during this war and even back in Syria. I'd recommand Perun's video on cruise missiles for more information.
@mykhaylovarvarin9078
@mykhaylovarvarin9078 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, Moskva had, on the one hand, comparatively short range SAM, not really fit to engage anything, except maybe, some coastline defences. On the other hand, it's anti-ship missiles were insanely powerful, probably enough to level a city block to the ground with one missile, but, because of it they were extremely valuable, the stockpile was small and the production stopped after the break-up of the USSR, as far as I remember. A full salvo of those missiles was supposed to destroy a carrier strike group of US Navy
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
@@mykhaylovarvarin9078 and it's fair to assume none of those missiles in storage work properly now due to various reasons
@tanall5959
@tanall5959 Жыл бұрын
The S-300 specifically was designed to have a ground-attack ballistic fire mode from the get-go. Now, exactly how USEFUL an expanding-rod warhead made to turn aircraft into the aftermath of a 'will it blend?' video would be against anything but the most lightly armored targets would remain to be seen. But it is designed to do it.
@alexisfights5773
@alexisfights5773 Жыл бұрын
@@mykhaylovarvarin9078 The S-300F (Which the Moskva had alledgedly 64 of, though I wouldn't be surprised if it had less, or if only a fraction of those were actually working) has a maximum range of 90km, which is more than enough to target coastline city, especially in a small operational area like the black sea. I believe the anti-ship missile you're referring to are the P-500 and P-1000, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Moskva didn't have them equipped, as the Russian Navy clearly isn't expecting any form of ship-to-ship combat in this war.
@nbewarwe
@nbewarwe Жыл бұрын
Yeah he talked about that like, right after as a possibility.
@danteredgrave5238
@danteredgrave5238 11 ай бұрын
I swear the Bismarck was in better shape after getting pummeled by the RN!
@02suraditpengsaeng41
@02suraditpengsaeng41 9 ай бұрын
hey, Bismarck at least is skill issue
@hanzzel6086
@hanzzel6086 5 ай бұрын
@@02suraditpengsaeng41 Yeah, in her design. Her crew (including the captain) did the best they could have done (in no small part due to that lucky asf hit on the Hood). She was literally just a Bayern-class (first built in 1914) that was doubled in size (but kept the same number and size of guns, and only a (iirc) ~30% increase to maintain belt armour). And the British weren't impressed with the Bayerns after testing them in 1918/19. Oh, and yes, her. Her captain was literally the only one to refer to her as a he in any capacity. The Germans even took a page from the Japanese and made Anime girl propaganda with her (which pissed off the captain to no end). Edit: And I suppose in her deployment as well, but there wasn't really anything else the Germans could have done with her.
@Notsogoodguitarguy
@Notsogoodguitarguy 3 ай бұрын
"Nonono, it wasn't Ukraine that defeated our ship. It just exploded on it's own!" - well, I mean, if that's the way they wanna spin it, I'm not sure it paints a better picture xD
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