What the Liahona REALLY Looked Like! (feat. Don Bradley)

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@wendyfoster5579
@wendyfoster5579 5 ай бұрын
How unusual, to have an academic with a good sense of humor. Love all the episodes with Don. You guys are 🔥
@ItsSnagret
@ItsSnagret 5 ай бұрын
The fact that Don plays along with the BS just makes the content even more prime
@GravityFalloutPines
@GravityFalloutPines 5 ай бұрын
It's true I learn something and also laugh, it's like Loveline but clean haha
@SuttonShimai
@SuttonShimai 5 ай бұрын
It amazes me that as brilliant as Don Bradley is, he still has the personality and humor to blend in so well with everyone else on the show!
@outsideview9052
@outsideview9052 5 ай бұрын
So what does that say about the intelligence and personality of the other members of this podcast? Never mind, we know what that says about them.😅
@indiuckymonkey2137
@indiuckymonkey2137 5 ай бұрын
Many of us find it difficult to understand how the Liahona worked, but can you imagine trying to explain to Nephi our cell phone technology? 🙀
@TheMightyJor
@TheMightyJor 5 ай бұрын
Any episode with Don Bradley is a good episode.
@wonko6x9
@wonko6x9 5 ай бұрын
It pointed to the person who’s turn it is to do the dishes..
@WARDRADIO
@WARDRADIO 5 ай бұрын
Lol
@soneedanap
@soneedanap 5 ай бұрын
The Hugh Nibley theory that the Liahona has ties to the word "queen bee" reminds me of an experience I had with my Grandpa. I used to go hiking with him just about every Saturday. He was a bee keeper and this one time he caught this bee in a box and that bee would try to escape by moving to one of the edges of the box. He would follow the direction the bee would indicate and it led us to a wild beehive with combs and honey. It was sooo cool! And with the small size of the Liahona, it totally fits. Not sure what the word for queen bee is in Hebrew or Egyptian, but cool.
@TheDovesNest
@TheDovesNest 5 ай бұрын
"Deseret"
@tuvoca825
@tuvoca825 5 ай бұрын
The bee is a symbol of Joseph
@Number4lead
@Number4lead 4 ай бұрын
Nibly the kid diddler.😂
@kentmattingley1792
@kentmattingley1792 4 ай бұрын
​@@Number4leadNibley's daughter had mental problems including anger towards her father. All of her siblings refuted her story. Very poor witness as far as her claim goes
@lynnd6422
@lynnd6422 5 ай бұрын
I had that exact question about the Liahona and talked about it with a friend. A week later I got Don's book and had my answer. It's been awhile. I'll have to read it again. So, I love it every time you have Don in the studio.
@karzee358
@karzee358 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be cool if the sealed portion of the plates was filled with MAPS!!???
@senilex1737
@senilex1737 5 ай бұрын
I don’t see why it wouldn’t. That would be a huge slam dunk!
@Heartsinmelody
@Heartsinmelody 5 ай бұрын
This is my favourite Don Bradley theory. Good job.
@dbat480
@dbat480 5 ай бұрын
When you dont hear Cardon say "haha thats funny. Okay...." you know the room is filled with comedians. Hahahahah I love that don can be serious and humorous.
@dinocollins720
@dinocollins720 5 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video! Thank you
@davidb6477
@davidb6477 5 ай бұрын
Like a vector, one spindle gives a direction and the other spindle gauges the distance to travel in that direction. The OG GPS.
@paulsavage2157
@paulsavage2157 5 ай бұрын
Loved the line that they would have kept the toilet paper far away from the fire....
@angelalewis3645
@angelalewis3645 5 ай бұрын
This is so great!
@mrjoshua2791
@mrjoshua2791 5 ай бұрын
Such a good episode gotta re watch this one!
@nathanbryant911
@nathanbryant911 Ай бұрын
Excellent interview!
@peterblair4448
@peterblair4448 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic!
@PizzaDoctor800
@PizzaDoctor800 5 ай бұрын
Is the second spindle manually adjustable? That way they can move it to point at the icon of what they want, and then the first spindle will in turn point where to find that specific thing they're asking about. Or is it independent and will decide for them what they need next at that moment?
@oneclimbs
@oneclimbs 5 ай бұрын
That’s an interesting idea. So they could select what they were looking for with one spindle and the second one pointed the way to it. I wonder if there was a default setting for just generally where the Lord wanted them to travel.
@kellenfreeman2299
@kellenfreeman2299 5 ай бұрын
I had the same thought.
@DGHamblin
@DGHamblin 5 ай бұрын
This was my exact question/supposition.
@ar_sureshot4992
@ar_sureshot4992 5 ай бұрын
I watched the BOM movie today about Liahona and I’ve always wondered what the second spindle pointed to. Thanks this is an interesting thought.
@ranaemonsen1003
@ranaemonsen1003 5 ай бұрын
Love the book! Absolutely fascinating
@kyles.9653
@kyles.9653 5 ай бұрын
Great episode! Just bought your book Don
@TruthBTold90
@TruthBTold90 5 ай бұрын
For one to deny the Book of Mormon, they must deny deep connections and nuance only God could orchestrate. The Book of Mormon is true!
@debbiemelander289
@debbiemelander289 5 ай бұрын
Okay, I’m sold. I’m going to buy the book right now.
@TrebizondMusic-cm6fp
@TrebizondMusic-cm6fp 5 ай бұрын
It's well worth it.
@JoanneBoulter
@JoanneBoulter 4 ай бұрын
I have bought and read the book and it is so full of amazing information!
@nedmacamden3019
@nedmacamden3019 5 ай бұрын
This was awesome!
@thekalechipsvendetta
@thekalechipsvendetta 5 ай бұрын
Stacked team for the video… always is though. Haha. Sweet to see Don again! Always happy to!
@RunShootSki
@RunShootSki 5 ай бұрын
Dons the best. Just about finished his book. Excited for his next one to come out
@paulblack1799
@paulblack1799 5 ай бұрын
Love the dragon thief shirt, Brad.
@davidlinnartist
@davidlinnartist 5 ай бұрын
Love it!
@johnbaxter6494
@johnbaxter6494 5 ай бұрын
Dons book reads like a college text book. I wish my grade school brain could wrap itself around it. Very interesting info.
@chefbernie62
@chefbernie62 5 ай бұрын
This is the Good Stuff!!!
@jaynefranck1
@jaynefranck1 5 ай бұрын
I doubt it’s that complicated. We all have smart phones, marvelous, worldly, urim/thumim devices, made ‘by man’…Just imagine God’s , gold standard, upgrade device for Lehi’s family….password, love, Automatic lock, contention….The Liahona, was a marvelous work and a wonder to those ancient trekkers. ….I bet their children constantly bugged for Liahona time. Pleazzzzzze Grandpa? It’s my turn first tonight. ❤❤❤
@paulblack1799
@paulblack1799 5 ай бұрын
Liahona = l' yah on - light from Yah (YHVH)
@literatesasquatch
@literatesasquatch 5 ай бұрын
I think that's the best etymology I've seen. I've obviously misunderstood whatever Nibley meant by bee since BJT is supposed to be Egyptian and DBR is supposed to be Hebrew and where we got the name Deborah.
@mrmod123
@mrmod123 5 ай бұрын
I want you to have Jonathan Neville on with Don Bradley to talk about some of this stuff… I mean I’d love to have a whole panel with all the different pov’s talk. So many opinions and povs
@mikesessions01
@mikesessions01 5 ай бұрын
Read the book. Good research and analysis. I enjoyed thinking about some of the possibilities.
@lornabaker4039
@lornabaker4039 Ай бұрын
“By the way, the toilet paper really ought to be turned the other way around…” “…And there arose contention among them.” Lol! The age old argument. I don’t know why I got such a kick out of all the restroom jokes. This episode is golden! But then, every episode with Don Bradley is golden. 😄
@TrialedFaith
@TrialedFaith 5 ай бұрын
Commenting for the algs and logs 🪵!
@stevenodell7662
@stevenodell7662 2 ай бұрын
When God wants us to learn to be in tune with the Holy Ghost, continued dependence on the Liahona would be counter-productive.
@kevinwoodward8546
@kevinwoodward8546 5 ай бұрын
Ok... I'm ready to add Bradley's Book on the Lost 116 Pages, this to add to the Annotated BofM, which is also awesome. Will Don personalize a couple of autographed copies of his book for me and my oldest son? Can't hurt to ask
@akpred
@akpred 5 ай бұрын
The scriptures teach that nothing is just temporal so I would imagine one pointed where they were supposed to go physically where the other one would point to give guidance on spiritual matters 🤷‍♀️ like with the message the family recieved
@Mr.Woodchucks
@Mr.Woodchucks 5 ай бұрын
The Mormon yeshiva has a video on KZfaq about the Astros theology of the book of Mormon. Where he explains that the directions Nephi is describing in the Book of Mormon is like a walk around the mazzaroth. Wondering if the symbols described are related to the constellations and that they symbolize the needs of the people. Speculation on my part.
@crazyaboutcards
@crazyaboutcards 5 ай бұрын
Don is my favorite. ☺️
@todd1s45
@todd1s45 15 күн бұрын
I often imagined an LCD screen...
@hg4144
@hg4144 14 күн бұрын
It is hard watching at times…
@mattreedah
@mattreedah 5 ай бұрын
It’s pretty obvious the liahona is describing an ancient culture dealing with what we think of modern tech
@dinocollins720
@dinocollins720 5 ай бұрын
Liahona an ancient iphone haha. Super small, navigation, text messaging, pictures/images haha 😂
@spencerlandreth5746
@spencerlandreth5746 5 ай бұрын
“Wow!” “What?!” “Dude!!!”
@JbowlizzleKC
@JbowlizzleKC 5 ай бұрын
Bought it already, wish there was an audio book
@rossm2102
@rossm2102 5 ай бұрын
Don Bradley trolling everyone else multiple times is hilarious 😂 great episode 16:15
@shadow6681
@shadow6681 5 ай бұрын
This makes it sound like the Golden Compass was inspired by the Liahona. They were always similar before, but now much more so. Wow.
@kimations
@kimations 5 ай бұрын
It's the alethiometer from the book The Golden Compass by Philip Pullman.
@karzee358
@karzee358 5 ай бұрын
😂
@RCIDEARCIDEA
@RCIDEARCIDEA 5 ай бұрын
The first computer 🖥 and GPS.. Easy to understand 😅😅😅😅 Love you Show 😊😊❤
@CourtMcMullin
@CourtMcMullin 5 ай бұрын
The 2nd spindle was obviously a righteousness meter. The more they sinned the more it got into the red. As they became righteous it moved into the green.
@PipeDaddy907
@PipeDaddy907 5 ай бұрын
I always thought of the writing changing in a similar way to Tom Riddles diary, not just lighting up preexisting characters
@hjohnson966
@hjohnson966 5 ай бұрын
What are you guys talking about? 3 inches is tiny? No way! 3 inches is ginormous! You can do a lot with 3 inches if you know what you're doing! 😂😂
@zionmama150
@zionmama150 5 ай бұрын
6:36 the reason for TWO spindles is that you cannot have proper revelation or gain any wisdom without the antithesis. One spindle told them where to go and the other was the antithesis. There must be opposition in all things. So when trying to discern, remember you have to have two choices so you can know which one is truly right. Also, having two spindles helps you know when the compass isn’t working, because nothing will be clear.
@wilocupp
@wilocupp 5 ай бұрын
Now I want a magic 8 ball Liahona
@paulblack1799
@paulblack1799 5 ай бұрын
Don, cover Malchia's escape from Jerusalem next.
@BobSmith-lb9nc
@BobSmith-lb9nc 5 ай бұрын
Ordinary magnetic compasses have two spindles (pointers), one pointing magnetic north, the other pointing to the azimuth (direction of travel). Magnetism was already known in Lehi's day (mentioned by Thales of Miletus).
@caffeinefreemtndew
@caffeinefreemtndew Ай бұрын
I don't know about Snitch size, but baseballs are just barely under 3 inches.
@jeffersonthomas3184
@jeffersonthomas3184 14 күн бұрын
While it was always a bit of fun speculation, It was my opinion that the second spindle acted as a sort of faith meter.
@bethanygonzales5529
@bethanygonzales5529 5 ай бұрын
I purchased Don’s book for my father in law for Christmas. So far he’s loving it.😊
@marielawrence-settle6476
@marielawrence-settle6476 5 ай бұрын
Where can we find and buy the lost pages from the BOM?
@kukey25
@kukey25 5 ай бұрын
Simplest explanation is probably correct. What about the second spindle being pointing north or adjustable like a compass?
@DGHamblin
@DGHamblin 5 ай бұрын
Is there any indication that the user could put the one spindle on what they wanted to find and the other would then point the direction?
@IntoAllTruth.
@IntoAllTruth. 4 ай бұрын
To me, the second spindle would likely have shown them where to hunt for food, resources, etc.
@danielt3613
@danielt3613 11 күн бұрын
The second spindle located water
@ChapinaUSA
@ChapinaUSA 5 ай бұрын
27:05 I call them the tokens of birthright: The sword of Laban, the Bronze plates, the records of Nephi et al., the Liahona, the Urim & Thummim & the breastplate.
@IntoAllTruth.
@IntoAllTruth. 4 ай бұрын
The Liahona was in the same room as the sword of Laban and the many wagon loads of Nephite records that was inside the hill Cumorah. The stone box only contained the plates, the breastplate and the interpreters.
@daleclark7127
@daleclark7127 5 ай бұрын
Love it that the Lost 116 Pages is still being emphasized and advertised. Like Cardon this book has been such a blessing and is up there with the impact of RSR. Should be mandated reading before seminary graduation!!!
@jenniferolsen8826
@jenniferolsen8826 17 күн бұрын
Is there an episode where Don talks about the hat in the stone theory?? If not i want to hear his take
@zon3665
@zon3665 5 ай бұрын
The second spindle pointed true north.
@liketheyogurt
@liketheyogurt 5 ай бұрын
Cardon! A new script idea! A movie or show about the angel that delivers the Liahona throughout history.
@vendingdudes
@vendingdudes 5 ай бұрын
Love this. Lost ten tribes start physically gathering to New Jerusalem all with tales and dreams from a version of a Liahona. (Kind of like how selected people were drawn to Devil's Tower in Close Encounters)
@WordsofMormon
@WordsofMormon 3 ай бұрын
Either Mormon or Nephi realized that he better not tell us where the second spindle points to because it may have revealed something so esoteric, as not to be generally consumed by the average reader.🤯🤯🤯
@shireecox122
@shireecox122 5 ай бұрын
I think it could have been like a magic 8 ball 👍🏼
@John-sq7uf
@John-sq7uf 5 ай бұрын
So why does everyone think the Liahona was crafted to a technology or likeness of relics to that time. If this was gifted from god why couldn’t it have been crafted to like todays type of craftsmanship/ technology. It would be controlled by god anyways so…. think of digital watches. Adding that tech/ abilities to the mental image of what is described in the Book of Mormon. The liahona would be able to tell them anything. Images could change on the spindles different pictures could appear wherever. Who knows, and not knowing technology, the Liahona would be described as made of curious craftsmanship.
@seymourbutts96
@seymourbutts96 5 ай бұрын
What if liahona was spelled wrong. The name "Leah" means delicate or weary. One interpretation of "Ona" is prevention of torment or responsiveness.
@mistuhgee
@mistuhgee 2 ай бұрын
I believe that the Liahona is Gandalf's Palantír.
@kareemhetaraka-brown1259
@kareemhetaraka-brown1259 5 ай бұрын
It’s pretty obvious that the second spindle was for them all to play truth or dare. That’s why lamz-snizle and lemz-dog had a party and tied nephi up.
@TheDovesNest
@TheDovesNest 5 ай бұрын
Jonah! How did you forget the spindle on Maleficent's spinning wheel?!
@ariseandbemen_
@ariseandbemen_ 2 ай бұрын
What if the curious workmanship was the symbols of what they needed?
@robynmills5534
@robynmills5534 5 ай бұрын
I heard the other spindle pointed true north.
@stephenbrown9370
@stephenbrown9370 4 ай бұрын
IT POINTED NORTH. If I tell you which way to go I need a constant point. Maybe magnetic north. It was a compass folks. As for how ot gave words?😮
@mollyshort2390
@mollyshort2390 5 ай бұрын
Hello 👋 from Arkansas
@thekalechipsvendetta
@thekalechipsvendetta 5 ай бұрын
Double that and you got me!
@Zyzzyx777
@Zyzzyx777 5 ай бұрын
22:07 deseret means a honey bee.
@Char-xq1zs
@Char-xq1zs 5 ай бұрын
The second spindle wasn’t mentioned because it would put you to sleep for 100 years if you pricked it with your finger.
@MattMorency
@MattMorency 5 ай бұрын
They stop using the Liahona because the battery ran out and there weren't any charging stations in the land of Zerahemla.
@andrewandstacieweller1927
@andrewandstacieweller1927 5 ай бұрын
I’ve always wondered if they found it, who created it? God? A servant of God? Just curious 😊
@Johnboynid
@Johnboynid 4 ай бұрын
Wasn’t the Liahona one of the things also included in the stone box when Joseph Smith found the Golden Plates?
@rconger24
@rconger24 5 ай бұрын
20:10 Casting of Lots
@zon3665
@zon3665 5 ай бұрын
Masonry has as much in common with the Restoration as Catholicism or Protestanism has in common with the LDS Church. Bradley shouldn't super-impose Masonry onto elements of the Restoration.
@hollyward549
@hollyward549 5 ай бұрын
Will Don Bradley siiiign his book for me? 😁
@MrDofB
@MrDofB 5 ай бұрын
Maybe it had a seer stone In the center...?
@brentknudson311
@brentknudson311 5 ай бұрын
Is that Va-Jonah from the famous band Ivy League?
@jonahbarnes5841
@jonahbarnes5841 5 ай бұрын
Brent, you handsome devil, you.
@bradymoon1889
@bradymoon1889 20 күн бұрын
The church has bought up all the writings of a fradualant 16th century ancient egyption hierogliphs expert who was jesuit priest named Kirsher. He made up a dude named nephi to blame his fraud on when he got things wrong....he also imagined/created writings/drawings of that were the inspiration for the liahona. Spaulding study Kirshers writings at Dartmouth and was an export on native american cultires. He had a published book that many falsely say was where the BOM was inspired from..... But spaulding did have a lost manuscript that was never published...this document (is believed to be but we have no proof) was a fictional writing like the history of the ancient americas. There is a theory that Rigdon came across this document. Parley P Pratt led him to J. Smith who he believed was able to use seer stones exc.... This is how the liahona, the name nephi and other of Kirshers ideas/ties became implanted in the BOM. This is also why the church has bought up and hidden the writings of Kirsher.
@ThumbFollowMe
@ThumbFollowMe 5 ай бұрын
Haha, good stuff! Check out our latest episode to see the Liahona as an 8 Ball.
@hollyward549
@hollyward549 5 ай бұрын
7:19 did Jonah and Don get haircuts?😅
@outsideview9052
@outsideview9052 5 ай бұрын
It was a spiritual GPS with written commands. I dont buy the "verbal" directions part of it.
@anichols2760
@anichols2760 5 ай бұрын
Too bad it didn't have three spindles. I would have guessed it looked like the flux capacitor.
@karzee358
@karzee358 5 ай бұрын
The Ladies' room? Don't you mean the Ladies' Rock? Or Tree? Or Bush?
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