Goddammit you got to it before me lmao

Godefroy the GOAT.

Probably at least 35 pages

You joke but Godefroy might've been an actual character he wrote and miyazaki didn't know what to do with him lol

He knows the Truth

If I'm not mistaken that's pretty much the case for dark souls as well. We can theorize and fill in the blanks ourselves but Miazaki has stated he has the whole of the dark souls story in a book he'll pass down to however makes dark souls 4

Yeah, this would be really interesting to read

@@jonaswest6993 Source?

I know wish he would release a book on it. Like how JRR Tolkien wrote a book with all the history of middle earth.

@@user-bm7kd7mx3s Some thing I heard once so probably not even or just half true

Ratalina

Ratatoskr is Melina confirmed

Echoes of Martin linger here as well?!?

lol I knew I wasn't the first to make this kind of comment. Godspeed Tarnished.

Imagine Godefroy existing only because Martin misspelled the name Godfrey once in the text

I'm still mad that the spectral Godfrey in the capital wasn't named Goldfrey

George is a big horror fan, I like to imagine him squeeling (with his high squeaky voice) with delight at the monstrosities that the world became.

If you watch the part where he talks about them showing him monster and character designs, you can see a smile on his face. I'm pretty sure he liked what he saw.

@@JacquesduPlessis11I feel like George would have liked the cosmic horror aspect of this game

a reasonable investment

I’d rather touch grass tbh

I fully support this

Kadokawa sitting on that Anime as well. Really hoping we start to see stuff based on Miyazakis creations.

I'm all for it

Hmmm duhhh? Shattering is after Godwyn death🤦🤦🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️

The Carian wars reminded me a lot of the Dornish wars from ASOIAF, the targaryens tried several times to claim dorne via conquest and failed. The only way Dorne ever became part of the 7 kingdoms was through a marriage pact between a Targaryen prince and a Dornish princess. Similar to Radagon marrying Rennala after two wars fought to a standstill, finally bringing the Carians into the Golden Order.

imo Godwyn was actually meant to die, and then be resurrected during the eclipse

Makes sense. That's literally the death of Jon Snow. Stabbed with knives by the men of the night's watch

Shame we never got that. I also wish that once all the ER hype and speculation has died down we'll get an insider look into GRRM's work and how it changed

Did WITH his heroes!

"dearest miyazaki..." I say in a hoarse whisper, as I caress the hand of his corpse resting in a giant egg

Agreed, also the fact that the eldenring shards essentially super powered these characters. You see a lot of discussion for example about who would have won between radahn and various characters BEFORE he went mad, but he would have been a significantly more mundane being back then. Kinda interesting too that Marika is revered as a literal goddess by many, when she explicitly was mortal before she became what she is now.

It might be a mix of general greed on the demi-gods' parts and, in the final game, a lack of information by the narrator. At the Outer Wall Battleground Site of Grace, Melina quotes Marika telling the demi-gods to become a lord or god, but that if they don't become either, they'll be sacrifices to cut down. If the demi-gods had that as a sort of order given by Marika, they might have warred for self-preservation. Also, Morgott presumably wouldn't be told this, as he was abandoned as an infant and imprisoned in the sewers.

​@@DisgruntledPeasantthat actually would explain radahn's dramatic growth between his fights with morgott and malenia

Taint

Its based on Martins own movements

He'll never finish it.

@@Sam-lf3hn Yeah you're right lol

An Elden Ring trilogy writen by Scott Bakker. And he does conclude his work.

The idea of a GoT-esque story in TLB makes me giddy lol

Said it elsewhere, will say it again. I wouldn't want to read Martin Ring. I don't like Martin's writing style with its constant cussing, its confusing change of POV, its refusal to explain key terms and so on. Looking at the game, I guessed that Martin had minimal involvement in the writing and served as a gimmick seeing that Miyazaki's themes of a fallen world that has to be either maintained, destroyed or fashioned anew prevailing. This video confirms it. And what he wrote was most likely not prose but a Cliff Notes or description of what the characters and world are.

Yeah they already said the DLC includes a portion of Martin's mythos that was not told in the base game. They felt it wouldn't fit and thought it best to release separately as DLC. From likely came up with this idea of Miquella retracing and discovering what Marika did early in Martin's mythos. Alongside frame the history of new characters the same way they did with the base games cast. Akin to legends told of events that transpired long ago, that shaped the world of today

​@@sleep_enjoyer13Correct, Miquella's role seems to have undergone several changes throughout development and as Zullie stated in one of their videos, Mohg was initially just a random omen boss that had no lore. And so the lore of Mohg and him kidnapping Miquella are things Fromsoftware came up by themselves

good, legacy media keeping far away from our shit is the only way to win the long haul

It’s because all the pedophiles, perverts and creeps are all in the movie industry and they all have media friends

Well, I think Miyazaki prefers it that way

Probably fpr the best, last thing we need is celebrities in every video game

That'll change next year, don't worry

Yes, he sounds like a typical neck beard hanging out in a comic store circa 1993. He's very much a gurch.

He is a one in a billion neckbeard. I don’t think we will ever see another fantasy writer that is on his level.

@@FFFFPPPPgurch. That’s a funny new word you taught me

​@@fakeaccountzsThere have been far better, and there will be better after him.

He’s the goat lol he’s such a great writer truly I can’t say that much cause I haven’t read the much but it’s clear he is distinct

Hades 2...

Miyazaki uses pre-existing fiction as his muse. He said when he was a child his english was poor so when he read fantasy in english he only understood parts of it and he was left with a lot of mystery that fueled his imagination. Somehow he can transform that into compelling game worlds. In Elden Ring he went a step further and commissioned a personalized fantasy lore that he could break down into a world and it resulted in his most acclaimed project yet so whatever he does it works.

I don't understand why or how but Elden Ring's world is just so enthralling to me. I finally get how Harry Potter stans feel about Hogwarts lol

@@noamias4897 to me its all about how very little is ever *told* to you, but so much can be inferred through obeservation. the other day I happened to notice the crest on the shield of a certain enemy type was the same symbol I had seen on the banner of a castle in a different location, and it let me piece together some lore threads I had learned of here and there and come up with some new ideas about the history of the world. it wasnt any super major revelation, but its really satisfying because I really feel like I figured something out for myself, its the same feeling as beating a boss almost.

@@zoid_on_youtube Those are some fantastic points as far as the storytelling goes. It’s after that information starts pooling together is when I /really/ got almost obsessed. The world is so rich and intricate, clearly inspired by a lot but equal to none imo. Everything from ogrish omen, and elf like alabaster and onyx lords to the Elden Ring itself are so incredibly interesting that I keep coming back to the game to explore and have listened to dozens of hours of speculation. The way Miyazaki presents the information is like a really really nice cherry on top. It keeps me awake at night knowing that the world of Elden Ring can only be experienced through a videogame, when The Lands Between deserve so much more attention.

Given that the text was also being translated into Japanese, then back to English for localisation, there'd have been a non-zero amount of interpretation and rewording of any GRRM text used in the game itself, even if there were attempts to use direct quotes.

@@PowerfulSkeleton Very true but Miyazaki’s English is better than we think imo. As a young boy he grew up reading English literature (that he didn’t fully understand at the time granted) but knowing that and his interviews that speak of doing all of the in-game text including even translations for DeS and DS1 lead me to believe he was likely reading Martins original English. Of course this is speculative but there are a lot of signs that point to his ability to read/write english.

Some of the dialogue and phrasing of the text in Elden Ring is noticeably more Martin-esque than anything before in Souls. Even if Martin didnt specifically write it, it may be the case that the writers were intentionally leaning into his style and incorporating it into their own. Rennala using the word "sweetings" referring to children, something that Martin uses a lot in ASOIAF and I personally havent encountered the term anywhere else. Or Nepheli using the phrase "I am a woman grown", a phrase also used very often in ASOIAF.

@@zoid_on_youtube ''Marika's tits.'' also didn't feel a whole lot like classic Miyazaki, but definitely a lot like Martin's ASOIAF.

What in-game text or character states that Radahn fought Morgott 1v1 and lost?

@@TheStraightestWhitest It's the opening cutscene slideshow. Morgott's image looks to be on top of someone who undeniably looks like Radahn, presumably winning a fight and successfully defending Leyendel. Who knows when or where that image took place, or how stylized it's supposed to be, but it does make it look like Morgott defeated Radahn at some point in time.

@@chocobo4646 Yeah, that's why I asked for text or a statement, not a figurative illustration that's very clearly very wrong, because the game itself contradicts that event. See, Radahn began learning gravity magic specifically to ride his horse Leonard, because he grew to be absolutely gigantic as a young adult. But he only assaulted Leyndell well into his adulthood, when he was thousands if not millions of years old (hard to say how long the royal family has lived by the time of The Shattering). So that doesn't add up. That illustration showcases Radahn as half Morgott's size. In-game he's four times Morgott's size. But if he was half Morgott's size, he would've been able to ride Leonard without gravity magic, easily. So that just does not work, no matter how you put it. It would mean Radahn attacked Morgott as a teenager prior to even growing to a size where he could no longer ride his horse. And that just makes zero sense, because the illustration was about The Shattering, meaning well after Radahn grew giant. This is why people going off that illustration are, no offense intended, idiotic. The entirety of the game itself heavily contradicts the two ever clashing. It would've been mentioned. Malenia VS Radahn, Malenia VS Godrick, even Godrick hiding from Radahn, all of this was mentioned. Every clash or near-clash between demigods was mentioned. Rykard's and Radahn's assaults on the capitol, both mentioned. But never Morgott fighting Radahn. So that means the intro portrait, which showcases The Shattering (meaning Radahn should be four times Morgott's size) is just one of two things: 1. It's a purely stylized idea that never actually took place literally 2. Radahn and Morgott did clash, but Radahn recognized the son of his idol and just retreated instead of killing him, and his size was just toned down massively to fit the frame. The latter of the two makes little sense since the same opening portraits showcase him as ten times the size of Malenia, who's like half a meter shorter than Morgott (Malenia 2.73, Morgott 3.20). So considering we get zero dialogue, zero item descriptions, and zero dev statements about Radahn ever fighting Morgott, and all we ever see is an extremely contradictory illustration that showcases Radahn, who's a giant compared to Morgott, as half Morgott's size, I'm going with the fact that they never fought. It just doesn't make sense, especially since multiple characters and item descriptions, the latter of which objective and unbiased, state Radahn to be the strongest demigod of them all. If the two did fight, Morgott would not survive it.

@@TheStraightestWhitest "no offense, idiotic." Well, in complete fairness, I genuinely don't care about the power scaling discussion, but you clearly thought really hard about what was a simple, joking comment from me. I just don't think anyone truly knows the timeline, so I will continue to believe the information shown in the friggin' opening cutscenes of all things isn't just made up bull crap for goofs and gaffs.

@@chocobo4646 It's not bs, but it isn't meant to be taken literally either.

That is the worst damage the tv show did in the end. Its sad that we will never see the end to that story how it was suppose to

Nah it’s coming out 2025 trust

We will definitely get Winds someday. Even if posthumously. I think it's Dream of Spring that we will never get.

It's been 12+ years. We've waited over a decade for winds of winter. Suffice to say we would probably never get a dream of spring lol.

At least we got the Snowfield.

radagon is marika

The interpersonal relationships between the roster of bosses in ER def has GRRM's fingerprints all over, especially all the scheming and backstabbing and rivalries they had against each other. Past games didn't really detail let alone talk about any of the big major bosses relationships to each other. Like what did Gwyn think of Into? The Witch? His daughter Gwynevere? Or the Witch and Nito's opinions on each other? The Lord's of Cinder were completely separate from each other, etc. The interconnection that most of the major bosses have with each other is one of my favorite part of ER's lore compared to the other games

certainly. players/audience will not know the exact motivations behind it and will just see the outcomes of it. seems like the shadow of the erdtree is the closest thing we have for the GRRM thirdperson POV chapter of the elden ring story. even the timelines of when event happen, you have to piece together to get a somewhat reasonable picture of history.

She is Malenia, Blade of Miquella.

@@HaronYoungerBro ptsd flashbacks. lol

@Lee-km7qqshhh, people can’t think with that open of a mind..

@Lee-km7qq sure maybe. But spiritual successor and sequel are not the same thing and have deep differences

Perhaps that's what they called it in the early stages.

I’m still waiting for the dlc’s end gate you pass through to get to the final location to just take you to the firelink shrine.

I mean... from a game perspective Elden Ring is 100% a sequel to Dark Souls, the same way Dark Souls is a sequel to Demons Souls. Miyazaki basically said so himself when he described Elden Ring as taking the souls formula and taking it to a next level with the open world. So George isnt exactly wrong. Its a new world, a new story but Elden Ring absolutely belongs to the series.

Jack puts too much into GRRM and too little of Miyazaki he actually insults a lot of the actual lore of elden ring and claims things that are false I really don't like him he's actually really bad at lore analysis

​@@animeproblem1070I've heard a decent amount of discourse around Jack is a Mimic being pretty poor when it comes to lore theories. I haven't really watched him much, so I assume he comes up with theories but doesn't have solid evidence or reasoning for them?

@@LtCdrXander yes, he makes wild gymnastic leaps with his theories and lays them out as almost a fact.

@@LtCdrXander like he argues directly against statements of fact in the lore in several videos

@@LtCdrXander Jack has some interesting takes IMHO. For ex: The idea that The Night Of Black Knives happened BEFORE Radagon left Rennala and that she isn't broken from the fact he left her, but rather, because Ranni killed herself and the Sweetings we see when we fight her come from her obsession with bringing Ranni back. However, she can't do it properly because she isn't a Demigod.

😂😂😂

Same :/

What's weird about it? People do that in real life. My maternal grandfather's name was Vernee, maternal grandmother was Vera and my mom was derived from that and starts with a V. My own daughter's name starts with a V. and if I'd had a son then it would have been a male name that started with it. There's plenty of families that have traditions like this or repeat first names which is where you get "Sr/Jr," III, IV, at the ends of peoples' names.

He had nothing to do with the names believe it or not.

@@WaddelingProductions forgive me if I don't believe that a man with the initials G R M did not name the characters Gideon Godfrey Gordick Godwyn Radahn Rennala Ranni Renna Radagon Rykard Malenia Miquela Marika Etc.

@@FFFFPPPP Imagine doing something because a bunch of people did it before you. I find "Sr/Jr" or "III, IV, V" Equally bizarre.

​@@devastatheseeker9967 Honestly I feel like Miyazaki named them that way as a homage or atleast fathered the idea, Martin proposing or doing that on his own would be rather corny imo... To me it reads like a "laughs in Miyazaki" type of humor to have the characters use grrm initials in their names. But we might never know for sure

He did. Yesterday's video has more details

he did

There’s a greatshield that drops from godrick’s knights, like the one patrolling near the first map piece in the game. The description: “The red tinge in the gold coat mirrors the primordial matter that became the Erdtree. The color of homeward yearning.” Grrm wrote whatever Marika is doing in the trailer.

That's like normal fantasy writing. Lots of fantasy writers talk about it. If you've created a mythos or world, adding stuff later comes with possibly lazy or no foreshadowing, which readers catch up on and dislike. So it would make sense that they are pulling from the original foundation cause its just bad writing to add whole new concepts in after an established world. With shadow of the erdtree the foreshadowing came in the form of the mysteries surrounding miquellas objective and marikas origin, at least those are some of them, this makes the reveal of that world more seamless cause if we weren't already wondering about those mysteries then the expansion would feel forced. Basically it would be more surprising if this wasn't the case and it's totally new lore

​@@robertwalton434 Damn thats a good catch! Matter eh... I wonder if its corpses, living mass of ...something, a being or something else entirely.

"I specifically wrote that the waterfowl dance was un-dodgable, what is this easymode?"

Nevermind. I heard music at 7:00 from *that* game. Day ruined. I hope you stop making these videos😡

Why would using music from the best Souls game upset you?

Based I might replay it. In honor of your purchase.

@@DrooledOn was the last copy too, I had to get it

such a dope game, you in a for genuine treat. i’m about to give it another go and platinum it after i platinum bloodborne, im on a Fromsoftware trophy hunt c:

Based and unexpected

yet you cant name at least 1 in your comment

@@terrycruise-zd5tw I mean the biggest one is a large complicated family having conflict with itself due to a mixture of real politics and magic