He got him in a kimura. It was a supposed to be a wrestling match not a submission grappling match.

Are they not all the same? Grappling, submission and wrestling? 🧐🧐

Francis Goddard no, amateur wrestling isn’t the MMA. Amateur wrestling, which is Olympic style wrestling, revolves around pinning your opponent to the mat. Strikes and submissions aren’t allowed.

@@maxcrss2845 There actually are submissions in amateur wrestling, but they differ a lot from MMA and BJJ. Submissions in wrestling are basically just used as another way to get in a dominant position over your opponent, like using a joint lock to get your opponent onto his back for example

Angle got his ego bruised and Puder was unfairly buried for it.

Simply Era *Pipebomb*

Yea a lot of them sounded like real punkasses.

Sounds like jrotc

Simply Era yup! So true.

Bob holly had the job of training, putting over, and punishment of new talent. He was very trusted in wwe and worked more behind the scenes

The New Japan dojo was a torture palace when Inoki was around

Broken Bones heal stronger. As long as you keep working them

@@four_hard5891 Because it is "just" broken bones and nothing else involved right, like not tendons or ligaments. A chain is only as good as the weakest link.

@@four_hard5891 they are only harder for a certain point of time then become weaker.

Solentos facts, I doubt that the average wrestler in training is gonna be like goku or naruto and become stronger when going through ridiculous training regimens.

@Francisco Pereira i have not thanks bud ill look them up!

Stam Hanson

i mean kurt invited them to a shoot fight, he did shoot wrestle people before getting to him, he maybe thought "hey maybe since this is a shoot i can actually impress people and this can lead into a storyline" simple mistake to make in his situation

In the words of some really famous dude you may have heard of, Puder should have known his role and shut his mouth

Still love it. Kurt was making excuses. LOL

This is what happens when you sign people who know nothing about pro wrestling

In essence they made that segment a mini brawl for all with all the attendant risks that went along with that infamous debacle. You'd think they'd learn.

Not really karma though.

Screw lesnar. Hes pathetic.

Lesnar bullied the bully.

Al Snow is the same I believe

For every mad man like Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant, there was is gentleness with Tim Duncan and Hakeem. Both have their strengths but the best is balance.

@hfudhfdsu ken What the hell is wrong with you? You've said this under multiple comments now.

ThrashAD720 yeah but considering new Japan is a big promotion that has had big names come out of there dojo it was probably easier to find stories about it

All Japan had big names as well.

MadSnake123 that’s Drax after he’s defeated by Thanos

Look outside of WWE and watch some old school wrestling training. Real men get broken externally and internally just to become invincible. I’ll have to look into that if I were to get into pro wrestling and MMA just to stick it to the money hoarders, keyboard pussies, and the male equivalent of Karens

Sexual abuse and bullying are two entirely different things. One builds character, the other breaks you mentally. You choose which is which

Technically sexual assault is a type of bullying

Four_ Hard Uhhhh no? Both can be classified under the “real bad” category. Is sexual assault worse? Yes. Bullying building character? That’s a real tough sell.

@@four_hard5891 Bullying builds character? That is sick. I guess you will not saying that to your kid when it comes home, crying, because of bullies. "Ha, suck it up, it builds your character".

@@four_hard5891 Both can break you mentally.

Onyx Chidori072 I agree

HBK can’t break anyone in the hard way. He got broken in the hard way by Vince and Pat, though.

@@Thor-Orion Listen to the lyrics of Shawn's theme music (Sexy Boy) and imagine him singing it to VKM and Patterson. Wearing nothing but a jock and baby oil.

Travis Tucker exactly ...hmmmm

His story for me was the defining moment for those who wonder if wrasslin is "real". No, and if you try to make it real, then you will be punished for real.

Hardcore Holly also chopped the crap out of him

@@djdonald2795 like saying: you aren't stronger than me and if you try i'll come with 2 or 3 friends of mine... mind you!

slopcrusher why do you have to write edit? You know it says edit right next to your name right?

misstrKevin to show what part I edited

slopcrusher I doubt anyone is racking their brain wondering what part if any that you edited if you hadn’t wrote that there.

misstrKevin your pretty interested in why I wrote that huh?

slopcrusher that’s why I messaged you about it. Do you think people are wondering what part you edited?

Spitoon*

Lol

If you’re gonna make a reference, use it correctly.

Lol hahahaha xD

I'll salty your spittoon;)

Benoit was on the list against puder right? By all accounts he was a good person out of the ring

They were taught shoot wrestling it's not the same thing

Same

Ma gawd!

With God as witness.

That's the case in many sports, like boxing, basketball, football, etc.

Considering that Pro Wrestling usually involves office politics to really get anywhere, it does make sense to a degree.

L. K. but not as rampant you’d never see a guy like Bill Demont training people but also acting like he was the shit

John Volken John Volken you cant compare that any professor at any college has professional level experience and top notch credentials, even community college professors would have a better resume of teaching and molding than someone like a bill demott or a dewayne bruce. teaching someone how to get to the pinnacle when you haven’t even seen it is a staple of wrestling. not necessarily in any other sport

Project DASKZ bruh why are y’all comparing wrestling to actual physical SPORTS it is not the same. and again those people still made it to the dance, regardless if they succeeded to even make it you beat a majority of the population most of these trainers were jobbers dawg, it’s not hard to get into a big fed if they need someone to take a pin for the night, but they act like they were equal to someone as simple as a Mr.Perfect. in wrestling it is the only entity where someone teaches you to act like a star when they never sniffed anything monumental and people are ok with that thought process

What kind of shape were you in going into it? Like those are some serious injuries, would you say you had maybe low flexibility?

@@Thor-Orion I would say I was middle of the road at the time, although flexibility & the fact that I started at a much older age than I should've, probably played a big role. The ring I started in is also known as one of the stiffest rings around too. Regardless, I don't know any MMA guys who came out of their first month of training with the laundry list of injuries I had. I don't know anyone from any other sport whose experienced that sort of punishment. And if you find an athlete whose transitioned from another sport to pro wrestling, they'll tell you, NOTHING was as tough as wrestling training.

Took the gimmick with no permission

@@Venemofthe888 not quite, they just put a job guy in a mask and called him the Patriot

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.

@hfudhfdsu ken pricks like you go to hell

Problem is, Bob Holly is still alive, too. He was the biggest offender of them all.

Still a nobody to

@@shaquilleburton1611 Puder is dancing on Eddies and Benoits grave as we speak. the disrespek.

What last laugh? He has some accomplishments like making it to WWE. Did he win any championships or make the main event? No. He is undefeated in mma but did he seek the bigger fights & the bigger prize? No he left the mma world before somebody would have made him tap or nap. He has that bully outreach thing but even Jason Miller called out Puder for trying to capitalize on the idea of mma guys dealing with bullies.

@hfudhfdsu ken RACIST!!