Yes

Yeah those back surgeries fucked him up and he came back so early also.

Injuries

It honestly still is. He isn’t the most skilled C but he’s still athletic and dominant enough for an offense to run through him and can be a stout defender

Still is

I thought I was the only that felt like this lol because I remember back then dropping 25-30 felt like 50 pts.

fr bro

Nba basketball was best between 1995-2012

Wish people remembered how good the Grizzlies were. One of those teams that was well coached and played tough af

very well said

They dont know shit!! Reals ones know what they see.

Im ur 12th like... D12... Lmao

good thing shaq doesnt get to vote lol

But he’s not D12 anymore he’s D39🥴

@@luhRvck ofn..... My personal D8 needs support tho... Cum over ;((

Bro~Dame is on the list. Take him out

@@killthedark7283 yeah I like dame but he ain’t did nothing for the blazers Russ has more pull then dame

Howard hasn’t been dominant in years.

@@CrimsonUniverse22 neither was dwade

@@heartbreakerjigga6599 Uh, Wade was more dominant in his prime than Davis. Davis never had a playoff like Wade’s ‘06 playoff performance.

Agree

Why would people mention he finished 2nd? 🤔

@@EternityMTC because that's the same yr many people believe LeBron was "robbed" of the MVP when he wasnt even 2nd place

@@217ShowOffBoii facts !! I mean it’s still great to even be in the top 3 especially as a big man

2011 dropped 50 on the Hawks in game 3 of that playoff series and lost...? yeah that 2011 season was his last GOAT SZN, before the back injury took over.

@@araynova his first year in Houston was pretty great. Not this great but it’s an underrated season from him. Especially in the playoffs. Him and Aldridge were going back and forth in that port/hou series.

then he went to houston and had no post moves

@@showstopper8 That was after he left Lakers, NBA changed a lot since 2012, teams in the league didn't need big men to be team leader anymore, he changed the style of play from then on, but when he was in Hornets, he began to play like this again, because Hornets was pure trash, there was no team leader there, Dwight often got 20+20 in Hornets

And?

The 80s had a top 2 player at every position….

I was just thinking that - isn't D12 supposed to be unskilled? Not sure what his critics wanted from him?! 🤔 Not everyone is Hakeem Olajuwon Howard looked like he had a pretty full bag 🙂

@@willhooke right. He was so agile and strong that his initial moves were effective. It wasn’t until after his back surgery that he needed counters because he was less explosive.

@@JJWilliams910 This is the right answer. It took him a long time to feel okay again. He said that his back pain was so bad that he couldn't sit down. Injuries change everything.

Facts

K?

Then went on to lose

beautiful comment g. I was the fat kid doing hook shots too

We had good stars, Dwight, Steve Francis for a minute, Tracy McGrady it wasn't all bad.

More lies than truth definitely more rumors than reality Jadakiss

Fax

If Kobe didn’t act like a little bitch back in 2012 they could win a title or two. Kobe just saw his biggest nightmare in Dwight: powerhouse big man.

@@air2373 Kobe didnt see any nightmare, he just didnt like lazy players, even Nash had problems with Dwight in Lakers because Howard didnt want to play PnR.

@@mariogv4083 lmao sure sure

And he was insanely quick too. His issue was that a lot of his moves were athletic based. Like that running jump hook. It wasn’t very accurate or consistent. The injuries to his back and all the extra weight he carried took away a lot of that fluidity, so as he aged and he wasn’t generating the same explosiveness, and his post scoring wasn’t nearly as effective. And guys would just send him to the line and he wouldn’t punish them so he stated becoming a liability as a post scorer. That’s why Houston started phasing his post touches and wanted him to be a roll guy permanently.

He will get one this year with the Lakers

@@samuraibeastwarrior2886 aged like milk lol

Agree

Or u could just look them up

That doesn’t even matter. If you don’t remember these seasons oh well lol

@@bryanallen2405 alotta people dont be knowing lol

@Jabriel Robinson But Shaq has many better seasons than 2004-05. He arguably wasn't even the best player on his team that year.

@@justsayin669 True, I just feel like he was robbed of MVP that season just like 00-01

@@JabrielRobinson I disagree. I think when a player has another bonafide MVP caliber player on their team and both players stay healthy throughout the season, that automatically disqualifies both MVP caliber players from the MVP discussion in my book by virtue of being on the same team. For example, Shaq/Kobe, Wade/Shaq, LeBron/Wade, KD/Curry, LeBron/AD, etc. None of those players deserved MVP when they were playing together, at least not when they were healthy and in their primes at the same time imo. If Shaq was arguably not even the best player on his team, then how was he robbed of MVP? Even if we are operating under the pretense that Nash didn't deserve MVP in 2005 or 2006, well Shaq shouldn't have been next in line either. Dirk deserved MVP over Shaq in those seasons along with some other players.

@@justsayin669 that argument makes no sense at all. I don’t win mvp based on who ur teammates are. It’s about your individual level of production. Disqualification of someone based on a non production based argument would make the race unfair and unbalanced. If u put in the work and ur are the clear best player on a winning team, u should get the same level of recognition as someone without another star. Otherwise mvp will Only favor raw inflated stats for whoever doesn’t have another great teammates every year.

@@TheIcemanthomas It does partially depend on players' teammates though. If it didn't, then the best player in the league would win MVP every year which would be LeBron pretty much each of the last 15 seasons. It is about a player's individual level of production, but it's also about *how many additional regular season wins that a player provides over an average replacement* . That's my criteria for MVP which is why if two bonafide MVP caliber players are on the same team, they are pretty much automatically disqualified from being able to win MVP because if you were to remove one of the MVP caliber players from the team, the rest of the team (mainly the other MVP caliber player) would still be good enough to maintain a certain amount of wins whereas other teams that only have 1 MVP caliber player would drop more games if you were to replace their best player with an average player (generally speaking). A player can win MVP in my book with another star on their team, just not with another healthy top 5-10 player in the league on their team. The stats aren't exactly "inflated" if they translate to enough team success to win MVP... Everybody has their own criteria for MVP, but even based on what the voters' criteria usually seems to be, team support IS usually taken into account or else LeBron would just be winning MVP every single year. Same goes for when Jordan was the best player in the league for 10+ years.

Don’t need a jump shot to score lol

​​@@eda639tf are u talking bout? How many mfs have accomplished his numbers with 3 defensive player of the awards without a fucn jumper? Shaq!? Who else goof? You don't know shit about 🏀 hoop

Flightreacts should watch this because that dude says Dwight shouldn't be in the top 100 of All Time and should be top 400 at best 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I know right, like I also really want to see Clyde Drexler

Hoopers were just better then 💯🔥

Really, until Boogie came along in the mid-2010s, and really until Jokic and Embiid in the late 2010s, Dwight was the last of a kind.

@@KleinpeterHank with all due respect, Boogie is not on the same tier as Prime Dwight, Jokic, or Embiid

​@@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan😂😂😂 yes he was and he could shoot the 3

He didn't have a go to move

@@thisislaflaretv5250 yes he did his hook shot was very crisp

Yes

Only if LeBron doesn't run his own system though 🤷‍♂️

That’s 4 rings right there that would be the greatest duo in nba history in my opinion 💯

Ray Allen 01 is done and scheduled. Coming soon.

@@MaxaMillion711 Awesome can't wait to watch

Kemp who has the same height as dwight but more skilled, more athletic and quicker thrives in 90s...so howard could too..but he will play against the most dominant center in shaq

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