Where Early Bow Season Bucks Disappear To

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Whitetail Habitat Solutions

Whitetail Habitat Solutions

4 жыл бұрын

Where did all of your early bow season bucks disappear to? The annual whitetail shift is very real, in particular when it comes to mature bucks moving from their Summer range to their Fall range. Those giant bucks that you have watched all Summer do not magically disappear or turn nocturnal - they just move. If your deer hunting land dies not contain Fall food and Fall cover, then you can expect your early bow season to become an empty dream after bucks complete their annual habitat shift. Have you ever wondered where all of the bucks go, right at the time that you are beginning your bowhunting season? This video explains why the start to your annual deer hunting season can be more famine than feast, when it comes to a successful start to your bow season.

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@royguidry1311
@royguidry1311 4 жыл бұрын
You are spot on. I never paid attention to small parcels and wasted a lot of money leasing big properties with relatively small areas where deer actually hung out. I watched about 40 of your videos and became a believer in quality over quantity. I leased two properties a 20 acre and a 15 acre in N.C. and saved over $5000.00 from what I normally pay. Ran cameras on both properties since spring, does day and night. Not one buck. This week I got pics of 3 bucks on one property and two on the other. I saw all the sign when I leased both properties and was quite puzzled to never see a buck. The woods are thick on half of both parcels. Properties are 3 miles apart and all of a sudden BAM, now they are filing in. I had seen this on my 40 acres in Georgia but thought it was a fluke property. Your thought process and my years of spending all my time in small spots on big parcels has really started clicking. So glad I found someone who doesn’t just talk about how you sit in Iowa on a guides stand a boom, you kill a buck. Some of us like to actually participate in all aspects of the hunt as well as hunt different areas of the country.
@Illinois-Wildlife-Encounters
@Illinois-Wildlife-Encounters Жыл бұрын
that buck footage at 1.51 is wow ~~great stuff Whitetail Habitat Solutions.
@rerun8950
@rerun8950 2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy to say that I landed a 2800 acre lease in Sonora, TX. Goodbye Huntsville and East Texas and hello West Texas. Ready for the season!!!
@kennethbnorris
@kennethbnorris 2 жыл бұрын
In my twenties, my step father had a lease down south of Ozona (not far from Sonora). Great hunting down there. You can really stretch the legs of whatever gun you’re shooting. I’m in Tennessee now and would be lucky to be able to see more than 100 yards, but at least I can do it in my backyard now. Enjoy the hunts!
@rerun8950
@rerun8950 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennethbnorris He was probably near Del Rio. I was in Carta Valley. No place like that area. 75% of the deer in Texas are there. I new some folks around Scott’s Hill, Tennesse. Right on the highway. Beautiful woods and hills up there.
@kennethbnorris
@kennethbnorris 2 жыл бұрын
@@rerun8950 Del Rio sounds right. Hard to remember. Last time I went out there was over 20 years ago. Good times though. Bow season starts in 12 days for us. I’ve been tracking a couple of doe, but I haven’t been able to find any bucks yet. But like you, I’m ready for the season!
@rerun8950
@rerun8950 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennethbnorris first year in Huntsville and spent a fortune on feeding but I have three 10’s, three big 8’s, a 9, 6, and 4 that are on the 200 acres. No telling what might show up during the rut. Going to plant oats after this hurricane goes by.
@kennethbnorris
@kennethbnorris 2 жыл бұрын
@@rerun8950 lucky you! I’m a little late to the game up here. We just moved here from Georgia. Hopefully by the end of the season I’ll have a good lay of the land and have a better strategy for next season.
@stephensnay7498
@stephensnay7498 4 жыл бұрын
So true about the habitat shift. Ever since we owned our property for the last 16 years I hardly ever got pics of nice bucks. But come end of august through september the cams explode with nice bucks. We manage our property specifically for the habitat shift. We have water, select cuttings, tree plantings, pear and apple trees, and lots of green food. One thing we have noticed, in our area the bucks have traveled 2-3 miles from the ag to our property. Closest ag to us is south across a river system and its loaded with ag but cross the river north and it's all woods. Great video as always.
@TheR3B3LY3LL
@TheR3B3LY3LL 4 жыл бұрын
Shared this video on my Facebook page for my viewers learning pleasure. Thanks for the great video
@carolinawhitetails6232
@carolinawhitetails6232 4 жыл бұрын
Good info, I came across this video while I was looking for info on "the shift", it varies from place to place but in some form it definitely happens
@courtofficermcilvaine7928
@courtofficermcilvaine7928 4 жыл бұрын
October 20th more or less is when I start to experience the buck shift on my small NJ parcel each year. I already have it marked down for this year on my desk calendar! Awesome video. Thanks Cris
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Ha, that's about s great date on my lands too ☺️ appreciate the feedback Cris...bet you can't wait for "Christmas"! Thanks man...and you are very welcome!
@KevinSmith-jt8fr
@KevinSmith-jt8fr 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Always very informative, I have learned a lot from all of your videos.
@livewire2474
@livewire2474 4 жыл бұрын
Getting ready to purchase my 1st compound bow got lots of decent bucks on multiple cameras tho, im an experienced deer hunter with firearm and after 27 yrs of hunting and learning im ready to try to take a monster with bow if opportunity allows. Got about 35 days to hone in my skills here in upstate ny. Great videos Jeff. Ive got some great advice from you!! Good luck to all sportsmen/women out there be safe out there!!
@jerrylittle8922
@jerrylittle8922 4 жыл бұрын
Your exactly right. We start seeing pictures of mature bucks around mid October on our 700 acre lease. 👍
@birddog7492
@birddog7492 4 жыл бұрын
True I have noticed this same thing. I like to bow hunt in brushy oak areas when the mass hits.
@gavinbenz9034
@gavinbenz9034 4 жыл бұрын
Saw 2 giants together on September 3rd last year and didnt see them again until yesterday over a half mile from where i was hunting them last year. Did not think i would ever see them again but now im super pumped up for the bow season that starts tomorrow
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Man that's great to hear! Hope you get one of them ☺️
@jjohnson9750
@jjohnson9750 4 жыл бұрын
Great information on stem count for bucks habitat.
@scottlewis8386
@scottlewis8386 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff as always i really do enjoy your videos. I learn a lot and excellent information. I could sit by a fire and listen and talk all night. Good hunting to you.
@scottlewis8386
@scottlewis8386 Жыл бұрын
@text-8178 awsome!! Thank you!
@coreyfrasnelly7364
@coreyfrasnelly7364 4 жыл бұрын
You need to start A podcast the amount of information that you possess is amazing I would love to be able to work and listen to what you have to say thanks for the video 👍🏻
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Corey and thanks for the suggestion! Just too little time...100 nights on the road for 80-90 clients, nearly 200 vids this year, 50 articles written during hunting season, 1-2 books finished, an hour per day of social media commemts...not enough time for sure! Plus smaller reach 🙂 Would be next on the list tho...
@backyardwildadventures654
@backyardwildadventures654 4 жыл бұрын
I started looking up this problem 2 years ago after noticing this. Long story short my buddys wife had a dandy on cam all summer, and she couldent wait. And i said he wont be there he will be probably half mile away. And her, my buddy, and land owner said that sounds dumb. Well neighbor 3/4 away killed it thursday. and i was never happier to rub it in their face lol. Your videos have taught me alot keep it UP YOU THE MAN!!
@foreverdrift
@foreverdrift 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge - it's much appreciated!
@southernway8132
@southernway8132 4 жыл бұрын
Always great videos and advice. Thanks
@randlerichardson5826
@randlerichardson5826 4 жыл бұрын
Great video brother as always. I’m goin to get started on stuff here ASAP.
@ReconRokon
@ReconRokon 2 жыл бұрын
This has got to be the best, clearest and concise information I have ever seen on a youtube video concerning whitetails. This guy is super well spoken and spot on with his information. Best of luck to all the deer hunters this year. I planted 3 food plots last week and we have cooler temps coming in tonight...........we are getting close. RR
@Rubo7
@Rubo7 2 жыл бұрын
We just got a 150 acre property in Missouri. What do you recommend to plant on it? I have probably 30% fields and the rest woods. We mainly hunt whitetail.
@ReconRokon
@ReconRokon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rubo7 I like using a mixture called Boss Buffet. 70% forage oats, crimson clover, turnips, radish and a few others. The bucks seem to love the oats. It works for me. Best of luck whatever you go with.
@adambarker9178
@adambarker9178 4 жыл бұрын
Very good information. Thank you for the video!
@jasoncurtis4938
@jasoncurtis4938 4 жыл бұрын
Heavy acorn crop this year as well. The White oak branches from what I've seen are barely able to hold them. Find the trail(s) from bedding to the oak flats and you'll be in the game.
@Nathan-nw3kk
@Nathan-nw3kk 4 жыл бұрын
This is so true. I hunt land where I see many bucks stay all summer into winter, and some bucks are here summer and then disappear in late august. Also most years the big mature bucks usually show up on our cameras in September or October.
@clydecoffeycc
@clydecoffeycc 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Here in southern maryland our shift happens in the last 2 weeks of october. I think its because of the woods opening up, leaves falling and deer are losing cover in alot of the neighborhoods. We consistently pick up new bucks daily during those 2 weeks every year.
@wstepnout7215
@wstepnout7215 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Just wanted to pass on some info. I'm not a real serious deer hunter as I was 30 years ago. I've been enjoying your videos. Everything you state in your videos is spot on. I live in a residential area but if I walk across the street then start walk depending on the direction I could walk 4, 7 or 10 miles without seeing a road, hydro pole house or another person. But that area I would encounter Moose more than whitetail. Now I live on a 3.5 acre lot but my land boarders over 100 acres of non posted land. I can legally hunt this land with a bow/crossbow as long as I am 100 meters from a dwelling etc. I loved your ideas so much I wanted to experiment. I purchased a 40 gallon water tank instead of your suggested size because I do not wish to have children fall into the larger tank this being an residential area. I also put up a vertical licking/rubbing stick. I also purchased my first ever trail cam the Exodus Lift II. I'm happy to say I've been getting pictures of 3 does one has 2 fawns one has 1 fawn and the other seems to be last years fawn who seems to be with out a fawn of her own. I also have 3 young bucks a nice 9 point, 6 point and another 4 point. I have videos of the 6 point rubbing the the stick I tied up and some of the others drinking from the water. As you mentioned the bucks were only here for 2 weeks and now seemed to move. I usually see bucks traveling the edge of my property every fall because the does stay here until December. Just wanted to say Love the videos and can't wait to see how the bucks react this fall around my little corner of the world. Wayne
@NHHUNTNH
@NHHUNTNH 4 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks!
@jerrydunn61
@jerrydunn61 4 жыл бұрын
I experience the whitetail shift every year too but I have been fortunate enough to hang on to bucks that are here every summer because I provide and implement the things you teach. The buck that usually stay are the mature ones. I believe they push the young one out because they have what they need. The bucks do typically go MIA for about a week or two but usually by the start of season they are back. I also hope to take advantage and grab a new one that wonders through and hold them but this year they would have to compete with a few home grown dandies so unless they are 5.5+ they probably won’t have a chance. Hopefully things repeat them selves from last season! Thanks for all the great info.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
That all sounds perfect Jerry! I too notice that the older they become, the more dependable they are and the earlier and longer that they live on the land. I bet you can't wait for the season to begin! I notice that little lag in their when they turn hard horn too...thank you and you are very welcome!
@vincentflauto7650
@vincentflauto7650 4 жыл бұрын
Whitetail Habitat Solutions I noticed a lag on my camera too and I figured the same thing that it was the antlers getting hard.
@40beretta1
@40beretta1 2 жыл бұрын
this is exactly why we chose the hardwood section for our plot. We have Agriculture; S / SE of our plot. All the summer forage is turning here in Michigan. A'kern is falling, yet the last time on the plot the deer activity has increased. I need a trail cam... man this White Tail / Plot & Hunting is expensive
@thomasphillips7719
@thomasphillips7719 4 жыл бұрын
i have a piece of public land that is working out just the way you are describing. I know bucks are in the area but haven't shifted to me yet. I am waiting to ambush them though. thanks for the awesome information.
@g.k.dalton4530
@g.k.dalton4530 4 жыл бұрын
I experience this exact scenario on two of the properties I hunt .. you will not see one buck until mid October to early November... you’re right on Jeff..👍🏻.. some of my friends can’t believe that I won’t go hunting until then.. I tell them I want to stay out of there from September to end of October... don’t want the deer to feel any pressure.. they think I’m crazy.. but just look at my wall.. Lol.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Great feedback GK...thank you! Now I do think you can hunt during every cold front (at least every week) all season long...but you have to be careful. Most aren't, lol so your advice is spot on. Really appreciate it...good luck with those new bucks moving in ☺️
@g.k.dalton4530
@g.k.dalton4530 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve also went as far as going to timed solar charge feeders and cell cams and working on solar back up for them this year so I can stay out of there even more.!!
@underdogoutdoors
@underdogoutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
I believe your spot on Jeff. The is the final Tuesday before deer season begins for me!
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man and good luck! Oh so close....😁 Will be shooting bows with Diane today. Can't wait!
@boostimalaka1
@boostimalaka1 4 жыл бұрын
Ever since I bought my hunting property, I maintain the land by mowing the fields while leaving areas for wildlife to bed. I noticed a big improvement by just mowing . Deer love freshly cut fields. I prune trees to allow easier paths for deer to walk. The bucks are usually more active in the daylight in late summer eating the crab apple that will drop. October 1 is opening day for archery in New York. I always see bucks during Halloween week and harvest a Whitetail deer.
@longrangecrypto380
@longrangecrypto380 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video!!!
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@randlerichardson5826
@randlerichardson5826 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck this season brother. It’s time to get goin on gettin ready. Be safe GOD BLESS.
@krisdieffenbach5425
@krisdieffenbach5425 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@randlerichardson5826
@randlerichardson5826 4 жыл бұрын
Hey brother it’s right now here. I get ready to put a plot in and rain sets in here. I’ll get it soon LORD willing Amen
@RayEvangelista70
@RayEvangelista70 4 жыл бұрын
You always provide great content! Thank you!
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Raymond...really appreciate that! I will try to keep it up 🙂 really appreciate it...
@RayEvangelista70
@RayEvangelista70 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I also know that these posts help you. You don't always need to reply. I'm just trying to encourage and help you build your channel.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
@@RayEvangelista70 ha...no biggie, I appreciate that so much! When I have blocks of time I try to answer 100% of posts, even if it is just the first hour or two. Which is also why I try to get the vids out early. Thank you tho...
@lbraddock44
@lbraddock44 4 жыл бұрын
You highlighted the problem that I currently have. 40 acres with 20 in woods. Plenty of bucks throughout summer, but come October they are leaving.
@leeoneill9573
@leeoneill9573 4 жыл бұрын
I want to start by saying I love watching your videos I have learned so much from you! I never had no one to show me how to hunt I learned as I went and also watching your videos! My question is I got some really nice bucks on my cameras all summer long going into the ag field which has corn and beans but for the past week or so I havnt seen one of the bucks come to the field (atleast in the direction of my camera) should I hunt evenings on the ag field come September 14th? Or should I hunt in the thicker cover in the woods? And where are the bucks going if not the ag fields now? I hope to get a response back it seems everyone has a different opinion but I’d rather take your advice over anyone’s thank you
@VivaciousViking
@VivaciousViking 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff, just wanted to say you have the best whitetail hunting channel on all of youtube. Thanks for all your hard work putting good hunting education out there. I'm 30 yrs old, always wanted to go hunting, and I'm finally going bowhunting this year partly thanks to your tips giving me the confidence to do so. I'll be hunting up in the Baldwin area in the national forest, probably from a ground blind. Do you have any general tips for that area? Thanks again!
@jaredeberly9724
@jaredeberly9724 2 жыл бұрын
Any luck?
@gregpeel3110
@gregpeel3110 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched a quite a few of your videos and I have noticed that alot of them have a vine hanging that the deer play with do you put or spray them with anything
@JCreezy2
@JCreezy2 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great channel. Each video is so informative.
@anthonypitcher9046
@anthonypitcher9046 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question not pertaining to this video but about tree stands I have a climber tree stand how do you climb a tree in the morning without spooking deer or is better to set up a stand two weeks before archery starts
@johnshields9110
@johnshields9110 3 жыл бұрын
This shift of bucks about Sept 1st always blew my mind. I never could figure why they would leave still viable food fields for withdrawn locations a mile away on a ridge. They sometimes travel back to Summer areas; sometimes not; mast production or even falling mast in back areas doesn't reveal where the Hell they are at? I wore out a lot of shoe leather trying to figure this movement out.
@slicingit5742
@slicingit5742 4 жыл бұрын
Man I was so excited to bow hunt this year because I had 3-4 good bucks on the property since about March. Now I’m a little down knowing they are going to leave. I have been so excited I attempted no plow planting and move a few stands on the property. Is there anything you can do to make them stay and not shift? Or is the idea to improve the land so when the shift happens they all come to your property?
@dakotasexton1942
@dakotasexton1942 3 жыл бұрын
Been following you for a lil bit now I like your channel next year I want to plant buck wheat as a cover crop like u talk bout doing I was wondering where u get ur buckwheat seed ?
@foxhilloutdoors2134
@foxhilloutdoors2134 4 жыл бұрын
Ready for October 1st! This year's white oak harvest has been pretty good on my parent's farm. Hoping to catch my target buck slipping early season bow. Great video as always.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Man it is coming in hot! Sounds like you have a great early season spot...hope a big one slips in ☺️ Thank you very much...I personally can't wait!
@williamlasure6301
@williamlasure6301 4 жыл бұрын
Acorns and apple are already falling here. Probably another nasty winter coming
@jeager0112
@jeager0112 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Jeff. Im from Alabama and I enjoy everything you do and love the info you provide. I would love more info on a southern state process. Any thoughts would help very much thanks
@slarimore1
@slarimore1 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff, I'm in central Missouri on private land. I'm just getting our food plots in Labor weekend and the first weekend in September. I wanted to plant your suggested blend of 100lb Peas, 50lbs Oats and 25 lbs Soy Beans this year. If I could have put this in back at the end of July I would have then top seeded it with 200 lbs of winter rye around Labor Day. However, since I'm getting started late should I forgo the Oats and just go straight to the the Rye? As in 100 lbs Peas, 200lbs Winter Rye and 25 lbs Beans? Thanks, Scott
@CalvinsCorner72
@CalvinsCorner72 2 жыл бұрын
When is the best time to set up a mock scrape? Thanks
@joemcintosh6542
@joemcintosh6542 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Some years, we have the same bucks year round, some years they summer elsewhere and don't show up until mid/late Sept. This year, we have 1 6yr old bruiser that stuck around all summer and the rest of the bucks did not! Just curious on your thoughts as to why he didn't herd up with the other bucks? That we know of he's never been spooked by a hunter. We've laid eyes on him and let him walk a few times and we have tons of daytime photos over the last several years! Did he get spooked from his other summer habitat early on? I have several theories, but you're expertise would be appreciated!!!
@Ncbasspuller
@Ncbasspuller 4 жыл бұрын
how do you feel about hunting over corn piles ? i just feel like it aint really hunting .
@susquehannaoutdoorsman3804
@susquehannaoutdoorsman3804 4 жыл бұрын
Here in Pennsylvania it usually opens around the first of October, the good early season lasts about a week, then 2-3 weeks pass with the lull
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind the Lull is actually not deer, habitat or herd related...that it is really only caused by hunting pressure. When you take that stance you can really heat up the "lull" like we do and most of my clients. Just purely caused by hunting pressure. Deer are always moving during daylight somewhere...but with especially mature bucks, it will be where there is no hunting pressure.
@susquehannaoutdoorsman3804
@susquehannaoutdoorsman3804 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I know, but unfortunately it is usually on posted land that nobody hunts on around here haha
@markw176
@markw176 2 жыл бұрын
So I’ve been getting pictures of bucks on the edges of clearcut all summer long. These are younger clearcuts in big wood settings. If the pressure is minimal will these bucks shift as well or will they continue to feed in the cuts up until the rut?
@mikemellon80
@mikemellon80 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for breaking this down. I've heard it can be easier to hunt mature bucks in their summer range? after hearing this it seems like it could be easier to pinpoint where they will be in the fall, especially if you have made the necessary improvements to your land.
@shaunkinsey5709
@shaunkinsey5709 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a spot that I stay out of that is on the back of property that has been a proven buck cruising area during the rut. I’d like to get back there and work on my access route to my stand and brush my stand in but haven’t made it back yet. So I guess my question is as we are approaching the end of August is there still time to get back there and not blow the spot up by working on my stand and leaving human scent?
@InPursuit365
@InPursuit365 4 жыл бұрын
good stuff!
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Really hope it helps 👍
@user-wu9sk7fs7v
@user-wu9sk7fs7v 4 жыл бұрын
jeff, so from reading your comments do you believe using an atv is worse or the same as using lets say a riding mower ,tractor, or truck to check cameras? im not talking about racing around just driving up and slowly and getting out. i have deer that bed down within 200-300 yds from my house and i assume they get used to my mower and tractor because i have plenty of pics on camera. i have been in stands when they are combining corn and the deer come out after they pass.what are your thoughts? thx
@crazylikeafox1000
@crazylikeafox1000 2 жыл бұрын
How often do you change your stand location, and how many times will you sit a certain stand? If you are busted, how long before going back to that stand?
@gageackerman2651
@gageackerman2651 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 150 inch 8 on camera starting to lose velvet. But he’s in thick woods early morning, then goes through thick trails 40 yards to open woods leading to hay fields. He’s surrounded by everything. Is he still going to move?
@danplanck2896
@danplanck2896 4 жыл бұрын
Good vid as always!
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate it Dan! Thank you very much...
@danplanck2896
@danplanck2896 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 johnny lol
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
@@danplanck2896 ha, answering too many folks at once, lol...sorry bout that DAN 😁 I corrected it, ha
@danplanck2896
@danplanck2896 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 noprob jimmy
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
@@danplanck2896 ha, too funny 👍
@cobrasavi2300
@cobrasavi2300 4 жыл бұрын
My dad thought the vertical licking branch was some sort of trick till he saw the results from own trail cam. Lol now he want me to make more lol
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Ha, did you show him all of the vid footage!? Pretty cool I can see how a lot of seasoned veteran hunters would at first scoff at it...man this, it works SO well and I am really happy that you have witnessed it first hand. Well your dad too! Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@cobrasavi2300
@cobrasavi2300 4 жыл бұрын
I did he thought you put something on the branch to make them do that
@HuntNorthEast
@HuntNorthEast 4 жыл бұрын
Great info, dealing with the "no buck" depression right now. Every year though end of August, early Septmeber they come rollin in!
@millstrive
@millstrive 2 жыл бұрын
With the buried trough water holes, how do you prevent rabbits and small game falling in, dying, and tainting the water? Is there a small ramp/ incline that goes from the bottom to the top edge that small game can climb out of it at? Dad had an outdoor fish pond in the suburbs, we found a good number of dead rabbits in there, and imagine dead floating rabbits in the waterhole would make it useless to you.
@WHITETAIL215
@WHITETAIL215 2 жыл бұрын
I hope someone can answer this what are they eating in Northern PA in the mountains when its mostly hard woods.and not much crops around
@DougSalyers
@DougSalyers 3 жыл бұрын
My problem is I hunt a small pass thru woods surrounded by fields and a ditch. Next year I'm putting good food plots out to see if that helps. They always go across the highway to a big woods hunted by a family of hunters
@Chrisbreezy1979
@Chrisbreezy1979 2 жыл бұрын
All that sounds great but what about places that never have ag land for them to escape to like here in southern Ky it’s all mountains and a reclaimed strip mine here and there? I’m having a hard time finding sign right now. And very seldom ever see deer.
@Chrisbreezy1979
@Chrisbreezy1979 2 жыл бұрын
@Number 1 Fan I mostly only hunt public land or private I have permission to hunt. I started working on my property last year putting in food for every season and one water hole. I have a very small parcel but it’s butted up to a state forest. I lived there for forty years and had never seen deer sign at all until three years ago and they have been there ever since. We have a ton of bears, bobcats and coyotes all over this county they really need thinned out! But people always say not to deer hunt east of I75 or south of I64 but I live in Harlan county Kentucky! There’s deer here but not much management going on. It’s pretty much a doe factory. There’s big bucks here but these mountains are seriously rough! All I do is bow hunt no matter the season just because I love bow hunting. I would love to have someone like the hunting public come here and show me how they would approach this area!
@southernlightsoutdoors3644
@southernlightsoutdoors3644 3 жыл бұрын
I crave high quality green all the time too 🤷‍♂️ 💨
@cactuscreekoutfitters
@cactuscreekoutfitters 4 жыл бұрын
What does it mean when the deer just never move from a spot at all,year round. Over population? I have several deer reaching the 10yr old range that just don't leave and we grow a relationship with them. They're not aggressive towards others at all either (I do feed 365 days a year)
@gregoryhunts3006
@gregoryhunts3006 4 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous amounts of food this year in Wisconsin.. I have never seen the property this thick with vegetation. . Tons of deer and tons of picture's but very hard to move through the 12ft tall ragweed and goldenrod. Also the burning nettles and poison ivy is horrible this year. I did however manage to cut trails and get 2 stand hung this past weekend.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Very timely rains...lots of moisture...zero drought. Been an incredible growing season for sure...even the plots lately have been going extremely strong! Looking good ☺️
@voxpopuli905
@voxpopuli905 3 жыл бұрын
I got 5-6 big bucks hanging around and one of them is a big sonovabich just like in this video. I got same vegetation overgrow prob too. Every year I’m moving stands and trying to get myself situated where they w be in the season, but it’s never exactly right. And next year it’s totally different. Last year I didn’t see hardly anything, on cameras or otherwise. This year it’s a buck nest, and they’re all big. Even the young ones are pretty big. Hopefully this is my year to get a pointy stick into a big buck.
@brandonmccullum9973
@brandonmccullum9973 4 жыл бұрын
I have alot of does that stay on my 100 acres and never get buck pics until late September and then in October there is just a explosion. I was down right sick last year because one buck I have watched for 4 years didnt show up until end of October but then he hung around for the rest of the season.
@brentcurry9698
@brentcurry9698 4 жыл бұрын
So what you’re saying, Jeff, is to find an area of high stem count cover (or have a strong suspicion of where that might be) where the wind is favorable to the deer’s bedding needs, but also look for luscious food sources that stay green throughout the fall where it’s close by and easily accessible to the deer as he exits his bed? Am I understanding this correctly? I’m just trying to make sure I have a concrete understanding of this strategy. It’s what I plan on shifting to this year in order to get closer. From listening to Dan Infalt and you, and from looking back at the places I’ve scouted and found sheds, I’ve realized that they almost always have green food nearby that is sustainable year round, thick cover to their back side and wind that blows over them with a decent view of everything below. That is the trend here in West Virginia.
@richardlesperance8259
@richardlesperance8259 4 жыл бұрын
What is your take on logged out areas?
@andrewrose5818
@andrewrose5818 4 жыл бұрын
When do you want to see bucks start to coming on to your property being of September
@antonlueker9648
@antonlueker9648 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I hunt in NJ in a “high pressure” area and I notice that as soon as the mature bucks feel that first inkling of pressure early season bow they completely change their day light patterns. Bucks I see on my cameras during summer daylight hours quickly become more elusive as soon as opening bow season starts. Love your input and appreciate all the information!
@bucknuts8824
@bucknuts8824 4 жыл бұрын
So is it meaningless to take inventory of bucks via trail cam/ scouting during the summer, if the bucks are going to move away a mile come fall?
@campkoehler7439
@campkoehler7439 4 жыл бұрын
I am in northern michigan elk territory how much does the elk population effect the deer in the area i have more trail cam pics of elk on my plot then deer should i be worried?
@marioneville9825
@marioneville9825 4 жыл бұрын
Buck already begin to shift here in quebec canada since 2 week
@suzmell1
@suzmell1 4 жыл бұрын
Ok so going up tomorrow probably for 10 days or so amped up lots going on this weekend setting up box blinds Saturday then gonna take care of phase 2 of the food plot spraying/fertilizing & seeding lastly Joel according to him will be by me on sept4th hinge cutting yea very excited and it couldn’t have happened without your guidance & professionalism & most of all your willingness to deal with all the questions once again ty by the way great video
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty exciting right guys!? So awesome to hear Paul...VERY excited for both you and Suzie ☺️ Send pics!
@randywakefield2770
@randywakefield2770 4 жыл бұрын
I live in the New Jersey Pine Barrens. I love watching your videos but as I see it a lot of your information doesn’t apply to me here. Would like to know if you ever hunted the pines? Would love to chat deer sometime! Hunting is everything prior to pulling the trigger Then it’s work! Learning all the WHYS are why I hunt. Thanks for your time. W
@marklundholm3707
@marklundholm3707 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance I could email you in regards to some questions. I have rifle hunted for over half my life and I’m just now getting into archery hunting. Would love to learn more in depth stuff and gain a better understanding if you would be okay with that
@217entertainment6
@217entertainment6 4 жыл бұрын
I hunt on our 40 acre property so fairly small. I’ve seen an 8 pointer on camera that’s the only buck so far this year. But my property is under a lot of pressure because we have hunters all around our property it’s ridiculous. We even have people that come from all over because the surrounding property’s have people that will pay then to hunt there. That’s why there’s so much pressure on our 40 acre property. Is there any advice that would help make it easier and maybe make our property not under pressure as much?
@johnnyballgame7339
@johnnyballgame7339 4 жыл бұрын
I find that a lot of the oldest bucks wait for hard horn, then they move into any standing corn available. There they have everything they need for the fall until harvest.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Johnny! We have LOTS of standing corn around here...client lands around the country. Hard to digest for them, mono culture. Very, very easy to draw mature bucks...or even keep them from ever entering, with great Fall woody browse and green food plots. Some of best years for my clients are when the neighbors have corn. They typically aren't in the corn during daylight unless forced to due to pressure and lack of quality forage. Similar to acorns...
@johnnyballgame7339
@johnnyballgame7339 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Yes I should have added the pressure and commotion both during and leading up to hunting season is a main factor.
@stevemarymc6638
@stevemarymc6638 2 жыл бұрын
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 not true at all
@robertschroeder01
@robertschroeder01 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by “water hole”?
@Lethal_but_barely
@Lethal_but_barely 4 жыл бұрын
I do have a question Jeff. Beans were planted late on private there is a swamp and cutover about 3 quarters of a mile away on public. The deer bed in the woods on public bordering private. In early October will the bucks still stick close to those beans because of how young the beans are? Note that the public woods bordering the ag field has some really good thick cover.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason good question! It really depends on the number of deer, hunting pressure and other food sources. For example where there is a lot of corn, deer head to corn areas in October at some point and leave the beans early. LOTS of deer and not other food sources, and they will keep hitting beans all season long. Great food plots nearby and they will only head to beans after dark. So many variables. No hunting pressure and very few other food sources around and it wouldn't surprise me if they hit those late planted beans well into October...which sounds like that will be a good thing to you 👍 Only bad things is that the bachelor group bucks will begin to break apart soon after hard horn. At least the oldest...
@Lethal_but_barely
@Lethal_but_barely 4 жыл бұрын
Whitetail Habitat Solutions This happens to be the only farm land for a good bit. No food plots that I know of nearby. Also during bow this is not a heavily pressured piece of public. I want to prepare for the shift I’m sure some bucks will be pushed by other bucks to bed farther away maybe in the swamp and clear cut but I do hope they stick close by. I will be setting up kill cameras this weekend I will put them where I believe these bucks will go when pressure starts and the velvet drops and only check them when I go to hunt. Hopefully this will give me a good idea of how things will change. Thank you Jeff!
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lethal_but_barely sounds like a great plan Jason and you are very welcome! Definitely a place to get into a remote public land location back deep and that public land and hit it during a late October toe numbing morning in the 20s ☺️ Good luck...sounds like you are really on top of it!
@krk1158
@krk1158 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love watching your videos. The only thing I disagree with is the October lull. Maybe it's just the properties I hunt or the amount of standing corn in the areas I hunt but our bow season in Wisconsin starts the 2nd week of September. I usually will try the first couple weeks of September depending on the weather and then let my properties sit until the rut. I've never had any luck around the beginning of Oct. Now that added pressure with bird hunters and other small game hunters could contribute to this but it just seems like such a dead period on my properties. I'd love to hear a video on what your thoughts are about recreational pressure. We have trails throughout our entire property and my family just loves ripping ATV's and UTV's through our 70 acres throughout the summer/fall. While deer get used to farm machinery and other loud noises I am a firm believer in mature bucks avoiding those areas. I've tried for years to get my family to get on board with limiting pressure in late summer and just having the recreational fun on the state trails. Our property butts up to over a 1000 acres of public land so it can be hard to manage but one things for sure with the amount of recreational pressure next to us on the state land the less pressure on ours the better.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle...that October lull is a huge myth. Great Fall food and great Fall cover gets even stronger during early to mid October during the daylight. Those ATVs are absolutely horrible. They not only make it so a mature buck will not relate during the daylight on the 70 acres...but likely within the 200 yards surrounding the land too, it within 200 yards of daily daylight mature buck use. Strictly talking the oldest bucks in the neighborhood. Hunters will see lesser deer on ATV rides and think all is ok, when it really is not OK. Also, the more attractive the land is, the more deer are educated in the entire area. Does it make sense that food plots, bedding areas, mock scrapes, travel corridors, waterholes and any other deer attraction, only make the problem with ATVs worse? A cancer for the weeks leading up to the rut...hence, the October Lull. Deer are always moving somewhere during the daylight...mature bucks included. If you don't see them, it's either food, cover or hunting pressure related. Often all 3, which is why less than 5% of all deer parcels attract daylight mature buck movement. Man...get rid of the ATVs if you can ☺️ A true cancer to quality deer herd and quality hunting...and October daylight buck movement
@amjorgy1
@amjorgy1 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I've read that many outfitters prefer to drop their clients off at their stands and pick them at the end of their hunts with ATV/UTV cause the deer don't associate that with human pressure plus you're not leaving a scent trail. I myself have driven right past deer with my ATV who simply stand there and stare at me. So obviously there are a few different lines of thought on this subject. Do you advocate for accessing your properties on foot for checking cameras, freshening up mock scrapes, dumping minerals, and hanging or moving stands?
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
@@amjorgy1 outfitters are going for a 25% aversge success rate on client harvests of not typically the biggest and best bucks in the neighborhood. I live it when my neighbors use ATVs. Over a period of time that will place 80% of the area mature bucks on my wall...and they occasionally get lucky. ATV use is so bad...does and fawns and young bucks can get used to them to some extent. But not mature bucks really depends on what you are after. Outfitters are just going for the average buck most of the time at a low % of kill rate for their clients. I expect to kill 2 of the best bucks in the area, every season, in a small parcel. Just different levels of expectations... I use ATVs during the Summer when I don't expect the mature bucks I am after, to live every day. About 3-4 weeks I stop ATV use. I use the truck during the night to retrieve deer during the season...much quieter. Or a drag out. I believe 1 ATV ride can kick a buck off a parcel for 4 weeks or more. Have taken full advantage of that experience going back to the Kate 80s and Big Red 3 wheelers my neighbors used to own in the thumb area if MI. Was simply awesome 😁
@amjorgy1
@amjorgy1 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 that makes sense. Perhaps you have or you could do a video on what your process is to getting into your properties not necessarily for hunting but for other hunting related activities like what I mentioned above? I also live and work on my land, I'm cutting wood to burn, clearing trails and brush. Do mature bucks get used to a certain level of human activity or does a guy running a chainsaw and tractor here and there on their property send them looking for a new place to call home?
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
@@amjorgy1 hey check out this ☺️ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mp-doKeIqby9aWQ.html
@outdoorfamilytraditions9352
@outdoorfamilytraditions9352 4 жыл бұрын
I was getting buck pics up until about 3 weeks ago . Before that from June til beginning of August I was getting really good buck pics in multiple cameras. Now.. Not getting many buck pics at all
@jasonard7227
@jasonard7227 4 жыл бұрын
well that stinks just found 3 good bucks on camera here in northwest florida on public land ..guess they wont stay there when october 26 roles around lol figures. great video man thx God Bless.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Ha, well Jason if they don't stick around, at least they typically will be around during the rut! Also, finding adjacent high stem count cover with great Fall/Winter food sources can help you easily locate where they move to. Good luck!
@swalker9482
@swalker9482 4 жыл бұрын
They will be around. Just not exactly where your seeing them. Keep an eye out in surrounding area. They don't just go 5 miles away. They will still be within a 2 mile radius or so
@jasonard7227
@jasonard7227 4 жыл бұрын
thx i will for sure be checking... love your videos and I now use sitka as well and wow what a difference from under armor
@jasonard7227
@jasonard7227 4 жыл бұрын
thx S walker
@redhawk9552
@redhawk9552 10 ай бұрын
I see them in velvet inside some of the thickest areas around so dunno about that part.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately they can't rip their velvet and they also require high overstory and good airflow. So it can't be too thick for them unless they like a lot of pain and have no other choice...
@dereksmith3142
@dereksmith3142 4 жыл бұрын
Is the pattern the same everywhere? I’m in northern Ontario. Seen a few spike bucks on camera but nothing to write home about yet.
@johnwall713
@johnwall713 4 жыл бұрын
I've been hunting for 3 years. Located in southwestern Ontario. My first year out never saw a single buck, just does n fawns. 2 weeks into October killed a big 9 point with a drop tine. Never saw him before and to this day still haven't seen another buck in the bush. I'm thinking he was just passing through, cause I was doing an evening hunt and spooked 3 does on my way in. Didn't think I was gonna get anything that night but just 35 minutes of sitting he came struttin' on by. Was a great way to start the hunting career. Just an FYI on how things are here. Bucks are hard to find. But you can catch them passing by.
@markmethner8839
@markmethner8839 4 жыл бұрын
Do you hunt opening day if your formula is not a good day to hunt?
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Great question Mark...I absolutely do not. My opening day is the first good weather day after the opener. I invite all of my neighbors to hunt on a poor weather opener tho 😁
@jimb788
@jimb788 4 жыл бұрын
I had some really good luck hunting white oak with acorn's dropping.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Can be a great early season hotspot!
@davemi00
@davemi00 4 жыл бұрын
We have Red Oaks that draws them in, later in the season.
@robertayoder2063
@robertayoder2063 3 жыл бұрын
@@davemi00 tree climber most places have most
@davemi00
@davemi00 3 жыл бұрын
Roberta Yoder - please explain. Not all property’s have hunting season - deer food attractants.
@mcmuskie2563
@mcmuskie2563 2 жыл бұрын
Some more of us don’t not hunt new farmers fences. Some actual Hunt northern Bush. No food plots to attract them for shooting them in a certain location.
@mikevonherbulis5960
@mikevonherbulis5960 4 жыл бұрын
Our White Oak Acorns don't start dropping here until Thanksgiving!
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Florida!?
@KoiTemptations
@KoiTemptations 4 жыл бұрын
Wjere?
@vincentflauto7650
@vincentflauto7650 4 жыл бұрын
What happens if the bucks core area has everything they need and it’s the thickest cover even in the winter? Also The area I hunt is very rural there are only little plots of woods in amongst houses, and the deer density is extremely high. There are bucks on every little parcel.
@davetoms63
@davetoms63 3 жыл бұрын
I run over 50 cameras year round in multiple states, and I will tell you the vast majority of mature bucks don't relocate unless they are forced to. They get busy in the rut and cruise, hook up with does so they might be gone for several days on end. But without fail, I ALWAYS get pics of them throughout Oct-Dec returning to their core area.... Unless pressure forces them to move. The reason why some people get pictures of bucks in October and November that they never see before then is because they're not putting their cameras in core areas. Period. No wonder why some of the same people say not to pay attention to telemetry studies because this BS that ALL bucks will move one to five miles every year and relocate for the entire hunting season is in my opinion BS. The only bucks that I see relocating are immature bucks that have an established dominance. Bucks eill always bed as close as they can to good food or does during prerut and rut. In summer, i tend to find them in more open areas as their velvet horns develop.... They move in to thicker bedding areas in dame core area as people start inundating the woods. 90% of what is posted here is only relevant to private land where access is controlled. Now up north, a lack of food will force deer to yard and that is a true shift. But ss long ss they have cover, food and does during the rut, mature bucks don't abandon their home range and a lot of people, myself included, actually believe mature buck core areas actually decrease as they age.
@agrahazl
@agrahazl 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly I need to hit the books or talk to farmer Bob to get a handle on all the different terms and the associated definitions on high stem count an the like. Don't need college credits, just looking for insight into Bucks; Like the open airy plots in summer and dense thick bush come late fall. Ok I'm good.
@celticwarrior4389
@celticwarrior4389 3 жыл бұрын
I have yet to get a wall Hanger and haven’t been Hunting much the last seven years. Was a Firefighter for 31 years and Retired this Jan. My Uncle has 80 acres , about half is hardwoods that goes into a Creek Bottom. The top 40 was clear Cut about 20 years ago and recently had some timber cut off it. I had a Monster 10 pointer coming into that area on camera every night multiple times eating corn for about two weeks. Never got a chance to stick Him ,now nothing but crickets on the trail cam. I have the SPYPOINT that sends pics to my Phone so the only times I go in is to put out more corn then Hunt. There is really thick cover on the top 40 but hoping no one else has got him! My wife has been a Trooper, she knows how bad I want Him! My Brother has a Wall full and this One Trumps all of His, He Hunts there too😖
@adventurerhoades
@adventurerhoades 4 жыл бұрын
I have state land that butts up to me. We like to hunt that first any pressure pushes them to us.
@Illinois-Wildlife-Encounters
@Illinois-Wildlife-Encounters Жыл бұрын
#aDekeDitty3 Love Whitetail Habitat Solutions work. Check out this Buck deer hiding in a bean field. They are so freaking amazing.
@justinstrong2811
@justinstrong2811 4 жыл бұрын
Man I have some awesome bucks on my lease rn. The discussion of the white tail shift is a bit discouraging. Some open hardwood but definitely some areas with high stem counts....hope the property has what it takes to attract a mature buck and keep him around.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
I hope they stick around Justin! If nothing else they will typically come back during the rut...almost certainly! Also keep in mind that those bachelor buddies will break apart soon...in particular the older ones. If you don't see them around early season, make sure to keep the pressure low on the land and it will be a LOT more attractive to the older ones as the season shifts into the rut. In the meantime...enjoy seeing them right now ☺️ And knowing that they are around...
@justinstrong2811
@justinstrong2811 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 iv taken the week of the 8th of November off think it's a good week off for mid Michigan? A full week befor gun
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 4 жыл бұрын
Oh for sure...prime time! BUT, that last weekend in October and first few days of November can be really hot if really cold 😉 make sure to hold a sick day out or two if the weather is right!
@justinstrong2811
@justinstrong2811 4 жыл бұрын
I'll also only make it to this property on the weekends. I have 8 stand locations. Do u think hunting on the weekends and hunting a different stand pretty much every hunt would be considered low pressure hunting?
@justinstrong2811
@justinstrong2811 4 жыл бұрын
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