I feel like M'baku is not a villain at all. Was he an adversary? Yes, but he was just exercising his rights and participating in Wakanda's "election" process.

"Oh no its the Falcon! Get the wing suits, surely we'll have an advantage over him in the air!"

"Once the ball gets to the finish line, Dormammu fails to dunk it." This is the kind of high quality DGAF analogy we love Nando for.

You missed Prowler (Donald Glover). Disaster: his ice cream melted.

“Makes an off-handed comment”… “gets his arm cut off.” I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.

Nando: _and we’ve never seen abomination since_ Abomination: _shows up in Shang Chi trailer_

Vulture's plan was working for 8 years and would probably have kept working because he didn't draw too much attention to himself. Even knocking down the building on Spidey should have worked, how would he know otherwise, unless he read the comic in 1965? It was the Tinkerer's plan to go after the plane and Vulture knew it was a bad plan. So it is no longer the Vulture's fault that the plan doesn't work.

I feel like this video really needs a second axis. I wish this was one axis of "terrible" to "effective" and another axis of "straight forward" to "contrived"

“His plain fails because he underestimates the love of Steve and Bucky”. Nando, I cried.

Hela is also throughout the movie trying to get the sword for the bifrost that will transport her armies anywhere, EVEN THOUGH she could have used the Tesseract the entire time!! She walks passed it and knew exactly what it was!!

I think this is the first time Caecilius has ever topped a tier list

In addition to backing himself up, Ultron should've killed traffic lights, dropped planes out of the sky and rendered all medical equipment useless. Also, why not freeze not only Stark's accounts but cause an economic crisis by devaluing all currencies in one fell swoop, and leak the Avengers' and every celebrity's and politician's past sins to the public? He didn't need to nuke the planet or recreate the meteor that snuffed out the dinosaurs.

Hela's plan is to start every scene walking into, or having just entered, a location, announcing exposition, then walking to another location.

Isn't Sakaar's whole deal that it's like the drain trap of the universe? That's why there's so much junk just falling out of the sky - everything that goes off-course/gets lost gets channeled there. So it's not just completely random chance that Thor, Loki and Hulk all end up there.

Mysterio’s plan falls apart if Dr. Strange catches him on his bull crap

love how confidently he praises Zemo’s plans at the same time as calling them completely stupid

I disagree with your placement of Nebula. Not because the plan wasn't bad, but because it wasn't a villain's plan. She was not a villain at that point, so I don't think you can rank any plan she had at that point that was intended to help our heroes on this list. It would be like putting the final Loki in the disaster category just because his plan of double crossing Thanos was poorly thought out and obviously not going to work. In my opinion, either rank her villain plan, or put her in the n/a rank.

“Did he get Chinese dragon tattoos on his chest? Like what a loser.” That killed me 😂😂

I honestly thought you were gonna give Thanos two spots like you did with Loki, considering that the two Thanos' in IW and Endgame are essentially two different people with two different plans, the former succeeds, the latter fails

Pierce's plan fails because Nick's car lands on top of a manhole.

I'd have put Dormammu at n/a, since it's not so much a plan as it is his nature to consume dimensions. Kaecillius was the one with the plan, Dormammu was just being opportunistic and exploiting him to break through.

27:36 Ebony Maw said something like “your humble personage, never has someone been powerful to HOLD two infinity stones”, meaning that Thanos is holding them without the aid of a scepter or tesseract box, he held them in his hand (then in the gauntlet)

why is mbaku even ON the list, he's not a villain, he's a rival

Loki tried to stop the Warriors 3 from going, Heimdall let them go and got frozen for it

Nebula's plans only failed when she's no longer a villain. When she's a villain her plans are great 👍🏾

I think M'Baku's plan was fine. Challenging T'Challa for the throne was pretty simple but it could have easily worked. Backing T'Challa later on did work. I would have put him in N/A though, because he wasn't really a villain.

I’d rather rank the plans by their quality/intelligence outside of whether they “somehow work” or “somehow fail” on t movies. Pierce and his Hydra buddies control SHIELD and the Council from the shadows for decades - great plan. Zemo’s Civil War plan is deeply reliant on coincidence and things he can’t possibly know - disaster plan. And so on.

It's actually even dumber than that: By getting captured, Nebula gives Thanos the leverage he needs to force Gamora into revealing where the soul stone is, prompting Thanos to take Gamora with him and learn the cost of acquiring it. Thanos may have killed Gamora, but she died because of Nebula.

“The only reason he gets “Not a Great Plan” aside from my complete bias…”

Why would Hela have any reason to worry about Surtur? I doubt she would assume that Thor, or anyone else, would actively CHOOSE to destroy Asgard (which he does, but there’s no reason to assume he would try to do more damage than her)

44:40 Thanos should have been in the Great Plan category. The reasoning for his plan is absolutely bonkers - but he ACCOMPLISHES WHAT HE SET OUT TO DO. He got the stones. He destroyed half of all life. He destroyed the stones so what he did couldn't be undone. His plan succeeded. He won. Then, if you want to use 'both' versions (even though he was either alluded to in or actually in way more than just the two movies), he *almost* wins again. He got a little bit cocky at the end, which is really the only reason he failed (aka a writing workaround to make him lose). He's the only one on the entire list who actually did what he set out to do. Everyone in your Great Plan tier eventually loses without actually fully accomplishing their goals first. Thanos only ended up losing because the Avengers went back in time to get replacement stones. I suppose you could critique Thanos for not looking into the future like Dr. Strange and seeing the SINGULAR WAY he could have lost, but you didn't do that. He had a great plan, I'm sticking to it.

Amazing Spider-Man 1: “turn everyone in New York into big lizards” Obviously Great Plan, S Tier

8:24 Mysterio’s plan also only works because he’s really lucky. If he had actually been working with Nick Fury, and not Talos (The skrull replacing him) then I think he would’ve been found out immediately

Easy. Zemo. End of discussion. He was the most effective. He's responsible for the Snap (not only him, but without him, it may not have happened). And he had no powers--he was just a human.

I genuinely didn’t remember Yon-Rogg’s plan… or his name, I just call him evil Jude Law. I’m so sad he got wasted in this universe. Hopefully “The Marvels” will at least make better use of Brie Larson’s talent

"Here's what I'll say about Ghost's plan -" Oh I'd love to hear what Nando thinks about what worked and failed and how she might have succeeded. "- it worked." Oh.

"I hope Arnim Zola has a backup" "We haven't seen Abomination since" This aged well and it's only been 3 months

Madds Mikkelsen's talent was wasted on an obscure villain when he could have really rocked a Dr. Doom.

Also to defend Killmonger, Tchalla didn’t have his powers and there was a fairly small chance that he would’ve survived.

Missing the villain with the best executed plan. Surtur, his plan is to blow up asguard with a giant flame sword and he does it flawlessly.

HELA'S PLAN: disaster. She doesn't escape imprisonment (just gets let out when Odin dies), she ruins Asgard even BEFORE Surtur shows up, and her undoing is totally her fault for being lax and arrogant. Surtur on the other hand has a great plan! -- wait for prophecy to show up and do his own thing meanwhile. Maximum results from minimum effort.

Spoiler Free: The powerbroker's plan was also trash because they could have died in that battle that they themselves setup. Also the power broker wanted more super soldiers but the power broker is directly involved with there being no more super soldiers.

Ultron was so hyped in advertising and I feel he had so much potential!!

I feel like Ralph breaks the Internet is a movie that needs your touch. It needs a big change.

“And we have never seen Abomination since.” Later that day…. LOL

Time to drop everything I'm doing and watch this

I'd argue that Taserface's plan deserves a disaster ranking. His plan comes about sporadically and with little to no coordination. He doesn't bother to destroy the fin, it's almost like an afterthought to him. And, his plan results in a straight-up massacre of Yondu's entire crew, with Kraglin the sole survivor. If that's not a disaster, I don't know what is. Also, everyone outside of the Ravagers who he talks to never take him seriously. So there's also that.

Not a bad list. I'd probably move a couple things around, but this was highly enjoyable

for zemo although the plan we saw play out depended on a number of coincidences, I assume that if things had played out differently he would’ve adapted - basically he didn’t necessarily plan out for the events we saw but he excels at adapting on the fly and coming out on top. And also now that we know that he had a butler running around, its possible that there was coordination involved that helped the coincidences play out (like the EMP delivery happening right when he needed it)

You kind of have to separate the two Thanos versions though. IMO older IW Thanos and Zemo have the only great plans

Zemo and Loki always playing the long game. Zemo a little bit better.

I’d love to see you rank other villains’ plans. Batman movie villains, Disney villains, Bond villains, keep em coming.

In Thanos' defense, he won 14 million plans, and lost the One that we saw thanks to Dr. Strange's future sight.

This should be called “Ranking Villains Based on how Their Plans Went” because some villains had great plans, they were just foiled. You ranked these based on the outcome, not the plans themselves.

Just because a villain's plan failed or they died in the end, it doesn't mean its a bad plan

I think kaecilius’s plan was not a great plan just because his entire basis for it was dependent on the benevolence of dormammu, which was foolish

'... and we have never seen him (Abomination) ever since.' This aged like milk super fast thanks to the Shang Chi trailer.

I would love if Arnim Zola returned. I think someone should try and resurrect Ultron,but his software has just been taken over by Zola.

I would actually argue that, ironically, Loki's plan in Avengers is fine (and only backfires as said because of Coulson and the fact that he doesn't take the tactical advantage of actually defending the machine on Stark Tower in the final battle). Up until that point, the plan is going pretty smoothly, for what it is, though I would imagine he would have a better plan if the whole "also get the Tesseract for Thanos and you are obliged to use the Chitauri army" didn't factor in. In Thor 1 and Dark World he's working on the fly, so not really much planning in it (though whatever he does in Dark World to get the throne, it works!). But Ragnarok - betraying Thor out of nowhere when its established that Loki probably doesn't want to stay on Sakaar either. Not his smartest move. And what was his plan for overthrowing the Grandmaster anyway.

Can you really hold it against the villains for not killing main characters? You can't hold plot armor against villains.

" Then gets Hulk's powers and still gets beat up by the Hulk. And we have never seen him since " The next day : " Abomination shows up fighting Wong in The Shang-chi trailer " . Never say never. It's MCU

I love the video format and thought it was a lot of fun, though the lighting for your face was a little scuffed.

With Zemo, it seems like you’re talking about how effective his plan is. Are you ranking the plans by their effectiveness or on how smart they are?

"And we have never seen him (Abomination) since" This quote hasn't aged well at all lol

27:23 Well, Loki didn’t use the powers of the space and power stones together. He also held them in containment devices and not in his bare hands.

How has General Ross (in-Universe) not been fired yet. He’s responsible for Banner becoming The Incredible Hulk. He repeatedly failed to capture Hulk. He’s responsible for creating The Abomination. And he unleashed The Hulk against The Abomination following Hulk’s one capture. Despite what he says to Captain America he basically did lose two nukes and get off scot free

Watching you rank different villains in the MCU made me realize how truly diverse and large the MCU is.

You could also argue that if Nebula hadn't panicked after learning about past thanos in endgame she could have just traveled to the present and thanos never would have been able to come to the present and Tony wouldn't have died.

Malekith successfully devastates Asgard in full lockdown mode and kills their Queen. That’s a great plan right there

There was a deleted scene for Age of Ultron where Ultron sent a kid to go get The Twins, and that's why he showed up at the church. And it IS clear in the finished film that he WAS waiting for them.

I gotta disagree with you when it comes to Abomination's plan. He's actually got a great plan, which worked out incredibly well for him. He did exactly what he wanted, he got more. He may have lost to the Hulk, but that doesn't change the fact that his plan worked out. It's the same level as Zemo's plan both times.

Hela should be fine plan. I don’t think she really though Thor would destroy Asgard his home.

With Justin Hammer, I think you need to establish what the difference is in your estimation between plans and goals. Since destroy Tony Stark’s legacy isn’t a plan it’s a goal. And selling drones to the military in an effort to do that would qualify as a plan but if the purpose of his designs is ultimately to get the military to buy his drones then selling his drones to the military is a goal rather than a plan

Waiting on this! Love the background!

I think Ego told Peter about the whole giving his mother cancer thing, because he did it after he showed Peter the universe, and when he told Peter this, Peter was seemingly seeing the universe through Ego’s eyes, so at that point he thought Peter would 100% agree with him on every level, which is why he did it so off handedly. Cause he NEVER excepted Peter’s feelings for a long dead mortal to snap him out of Ego’s grip.

I really enjoyed this video Nando! The format was great

Three Lokis is also the number of Lokis in the show: L1130, Sylvie and Ravonna

I’m a simple man. I see MCU themed tier list, I watch video, I like video

in the end, Killmonger got what he wanted: Wakanda opening up to the world and helping out

Caecillius' plan was to let Dormamu into our universe so that he could end death. But he was predictably double crossed by Dormamu and ends up as food (or something?). I get that he is the most successful at implementing his plan, but it is the literal end goal that is bad. Because of an obvious and inevitable double cross. Not a great plan.

I'd argue that The Dark World Loki had a fine plan because his whole goal was to become ruler of Asgard, which he succeeds in doing. His only problem was that he didn't think that far beyond that goal.

Was referring to the comment that cost Klaw his arm as "off-handed" an accidental pun? 'Cuz holy crap!

17:43 I think it’s because he was waiting for Odin, Hela, Ego, and the Ancient One to die.

1 hour of Nando? Hyped to watch it all.

Would love to see more tier lists like this!

"Zemo gets rid of all but one super soldier, who is John walker" *Bucky, Bradley, and Alexei would like to know your location.*

Nando twitch! LETS GO

The Leader from the incredible hulk should have been the one in the Falcon and Winter soldier who recreated the serum.

talking about abomination "and we've never seen him since" *ends up being in trailer released the same day this video was posted*

Love your podcast

Thank you for always reminding me that I have nebula. I prefer it to watch your videos but often forget

The plot holes that Nando points out are amazing. Well done.

Kaecilius stealing the one specific page of the Book of Cagliostro that tipped the heroes off to his plan, rather than stealing a bunch of random pages knocks his plan down for me

Nando should update this video when Phase 5 begins!

I feel like their loss/death should not discount the plan. The main characters have the writer on their side. Sometimes there's gonna be a coincidence/deus ex machina that was impossible to plan against.

With Nebula it seems like you’re talking more about goals than plans

This analysis is all over the place: ** Klaue had no "plan" in either movie to evaluate... he's just a thief taking scores. ** The Grandmaster has no "plan" either. He's just a kingpin. ** Mysterio's plan is STILL working... he died, but didn't lose. ** US Agent had ZERO plan - he just wanted a job for which he wasn't qualified. ** M'Baku didn't have a plan - he went for a job, fought fairly, and lost. He didn't try to usurp the throne or anything. He's not even a villain; he's a temporary antagonist. It sounds like this is a list of "Most Competent Villains" instead of "Best Plan"...

I have a problem with the Red Skull ending. Loads of people have since held the tesseract in their hands with no issues.

RONAN THE ACCUSER: I think he has a pretty great plan. Sure, he might or might not survive ticking off Thanos, but Ronan's entire goal is to nuke the Nova homeworld and he comes within an ace of doing it. He might not even have survived doing that, but he has no intentions beyond that anyway.

The moment Nando realizes how many Lokis are on the list lol