An epic meme? Rubbish! Leafs memes should be dead by now! I don't like it when the Leafs are a meme. I'm sick n tired of having to be the NHL's laughing stock

For me the Leafs would be an avatar of Canada. I wouldn't call it a win for Toronto, which as an American I recognize as the capital of Canada.

@@keeshandave8603 the memes don't die as long as the leafs don't win. they DID get to kill the specific meme of "can't count to 4", but they still have the longest cup draught in history

nah you just have to view it as the start of a new epic meme.

No kidding. Toronto would be more hated than ANY other team winning. Absolutely no one outside of Toronto likes them 😂

I second that, but mostly because I’ve been a fan of the team since the early 2000’s.

@@philtorrez4198 my condolences

I could die happy if the Coyotes win a cup.

​@philtorrez4198 hey atleast you r honest lol

Umm it’s 5000 thank you very much😂

THE HOCKEY GOD HAS SPOKEN

Not gonna happen, even w/ foligno and hall in the room

Let's go Hawks!!🏒🥅🚨🏆

A Yakupov says what?

Not gonna happen bro, my best friend is a Hawks fan so it would be kinda nice for him and other fans, but nah and Bedard needs to play some NHL games to prove the hype is true. NHL is a different beast altogether, but I'm kinda pulling for them to come outta this rebuild sooner than people expect. And I had to laugh at perry getting 4 million bucks as well as Foligno at this point in their careers, but good for them to get that bag lol

Them making the playoffs would be the best shock ngl

It would also que a lot of people calling it rigged

@@OO-bo4xk i wouldn’t be surprised at all

Imagine them raising the cup in front of 5000 people. Holy shit I want that to happen so bad.

Yeah tied with the ducks lol and THG put 5 teams ahead of them in his video he didn't even mention the ducks lmao To me they are #1a and the sharks are 1b Ducks have no goaltending no defense and their young players still haven't taken the next step. Sharks are the same I couldn't tell you if they are better lol Coyotes are a little bit better but not much and the so they are 1c Hahaha THG put the Coyotes ahead of the sharks and the ducks in the shock category. Holy cow I totally disagree. No disrespect but again the Ducks or Sharks winning the Stanley Cup this year would be one of the biggest shockers in North American history Hahaha Go ahead peeps tell me what you think? Who are your 3 worst teams this upcoming season. Mine are Ducks Sharks Coyotes 😛

I have high expectations for Buffalo to at least make the playoffs. If they win it all they will be a long shot, and long shots making the Cup and winning it all is something we haven't seen in a while.

no playoffs till next year. Quinn out and not replaced, rookie goalie, etc. Players regressing from season best totals from last yr., not this year.

City would burn to the ground lol. I have this wild dream that the Bills and Sabres win the same year snapping that buffalo sports curse.

Fellow Avs fan - I hate Minnesota more than any other team in the NHL, but as much as I hate to admit it, you’re right and so is THG. Just not right after Vegas won it already, please…

As a Pens fan, I definitely would bee grumbling if most of the Metro teams won a cup, the exception being the Devils oddly enough. They're just a fun young team that I would be happy for them.

As a canadiens fan (i dont mind nyr) the fanbase still hates chris kreider for injuring price in the 2014-15 playoffs

@@emerix4792wasn’t on purpose. But fans are irrational.

And Krieder as a habs fan.

@@brandoncara8204If Gallagher ran into Lundqvist in that series causing a flurry of injuries that caused him to miss entire seasons sometimes and need to retire young would you think the same way?

Oh my goodness, that might be the end of Steve dangel!

Toronto is one of two franchises I despise due to their fans (Minnesota is the other). It won't bother me a bit if they don't win a cup. Edmonton is trending that way as well (and a close friend of mine who was a Oiler fan this year, so I don't feel obligated to spare her feelings in public now).

Minnesota has fans?

Leafs also have more fans than any other team

@@jeffreyclinard2002you’d hate me lol, my two favourite teams

I think the exact ranking is not that important, to me the board is more of a conversation starter.

I want to see the Coyotes lift the cup in Mullet arena just for the absurdity of it.

@@KingKabalIIIit would be hilarious and I’m totally here for it

Vegas has been in contention for years

this. that scandal has painted a massive target on the franchise, such that only maybe boston is more universally hated, as best i can tell. and i think that kind of mark is going to linger for a LONG time.

Everyone including their owner who died is no longer involved with the team currently. Why do the fans have to suffer for something they had no control over?

If Vegas repeats I wouldn't be thrilled, but that team is expertly built and extremely well coached. Same goes for Tampa. But if the Hawks win with a draft pick they should have been stripped of? Justifiable rage from every hockey fan with a conscience.

Doesn't make sense why New Jersey was supposed to lose draft picks for circumventing the cap when they tried signing Kovalchuk to a 17 year deal (they ended up retaining those draft picks, but the original deal was outlandish and it would come back to haunt the franchise even though they reduced it by 2 years), yet the Blackhawks didn't for not only employing a s*x offender who ruined the playing careers of at least two prospects, which ended up destroying the legacies of everyone else involved with the organization (mostly the players, coaching staff, and front office personnel), but also for giving said s*x offender letters of recommendations, which led to him ruining a teenager's mental health by doing the same thing that he did when he was part of the organization. I understand why they kept quiet about it during their 2010 playoff run, even though I would have still let the commissioner know about it and that I planned on dealing with it after the playoffs, but they should have addressed the issue that following summer, instead of trying to bury it only for it to be discovered a decade later.

​@@edschramm6757literally no one from the incident is with the team anymore. The owner from that era literally just died. How about the Hockey Canada scandal anyone? Should we punish ALL of Canada for that? Blackhawks are here to stay! Chicago is pissed off what happened to Kyle Beach too, but we love our team.

Idk if they can be called a villain, that requires winning

@@Pikabo0 Put them in the same category as "Team Rocket" villains

GO KNIGHTS GO! 😊

While not widely accepted, I can't be bothered to hate on the team despite the excessive media coverage. [just don't tune into it] The way I see it, if your nemesis has gone decades without posing any threat to you, they aren't really a nemesis anymore. Kind of just feel sorry for them now really.

Just like the Rangers

Not me.

@@Bouncer-id1rh same here. I would be very happy if the Minnesota fanbase continued to suffer… for eternity

i'm not a canada fan. broccoli or god no would make more sense to me. but i also find the perpetual "we're gonna do it" "why do we suck" cycle to be really funny

ah shit, which focus did I accidentally click and not realize until four months later as canada again?

Another covid would happen and they'd cancel the finals. Lol

hell freezes over shit lol

@@tiffanynaidoo2003 they never canceled the finals in 2020 or 2021 during covid

@@ethanparker7900 I was joking. The commenter asked about what would happen if it was Buffalo and Vancouver in the finals.

What?

As a die hard oilers fan, I always support the coyotes

@@cobybitman261 I feel sorry for Buffalo. Great, small city, but they've never won a thing. The perpetual underdog.

Bruins fan? then you know they're the team going in with the biggest chip on their shoulder this season. Last Stanley Cup went to the coach with the biggest humiliation and chip on his shoulder That's a huge motivator... Got used against us in 2019 1970-71 season, new coach Tom Johnson led the Bruins to the franchise record for most winning regular-season. That's the record we broke his past year on the way to breaking the NHL record Heavily-favored, they did not get the cup. 1971 72, big bad Bruins revenge tour-humiliated, big chip on their shoulder... They got themselves a cup 🏆 As an original sixer, always be aware of that chip on their shoulders... Brad Marchand was fully aware of what was happening last season, he knows this history. That 1970 Derek Sanderson pass to the flying Bobby Orr OT goal, won the Bruins Stanley cup-after they only won 40 out of 72 regular season games. 2011 Stanley Cup came after 46 wins out of 82 regular-season games. Lucic was point leader next to David krejci that season We need to win less than 50 games. Then we stand a better chance at a cup! So let's have Jeremy actually take on elite teams, play more away games out West and start to actually carry a more fair load -we will lose more games as he goes through his learning curve. Along with prospects and new talent. And these guys are young, they all have something to prove Add that to veterans with humiliation and chip on their shoulder, with less time to prove it! We do better as a Cinderella team. And that's exactly what I'm seeing this season coming up! So if everybody wants to look at all these stats assessing which teams are going to be best, they've got to take a big step back to look at some other stats, that covered trends & patterns According to our history -we are more ripe to win the Stanley Cup this year, then we were last year! Brad Marchand captained this team to win three out of four gritty games against the Panthers When he had to step aside as Captain for Patrice bergeron's return-we proceeded to lose two out of three games. Even with David krejci's heroic efforts game 7-when he finally woke up I can't wait for the 1972 big bad Bruins revenge tour! Look at what they said about the Bruins last season? Don't fall for it. Enjoy! They're going to keep us on the edge of our seats this season... 🐻

It's funny cuz I think everyone in the league can see on paper that they put in the work to win. It's not an A-list team like Vegas was right off the bat. If we win a cup.. it'd be with heart. Which is totally within my realm of reality this year. I bet people would accept it more than Vegas winning again tbh.

​@kolebowyer3837 I'd see Seattle win 3 in a row if it meant I could permanently forget and delete all memories related to Vegas ever touching the Cup...

@@kolebowyer3837 Vegas was an A-list time right off the bat? With who? James Neal? Fleury?

​@@Hated_Sienexactly! They were expected to be horrible. I hope they win it all again!

If Seattle wins it before Vancouver? Yeah, that would hurt your neighbors. Devastating levels of frustration. I'm not a fan of either team, but I can safely say that.

Def no fans whose teams are in the Pacific want to see Edmonton win. East coast fans i feel would be more tolerant being happy for McD and Drai winning together. All the social media trolls would be pissed they gotta come up with new material instead of the the same "he only cares about individual stats" and "how many cups" do they have lol

that's one word for it. though i'd say more mcdavid than drai. i also don't like just how much the media seems to constantly be worshiping mcdavid, even when he's not on the ice.

@@edschramm6757 The marketing falls flat on its face when they get crushed in the playoffs every year. Its almost sad to watch. Crosby and Gretzky had a few cups by his age.

I guess what annoys people is those two are marketed like an NBA team but real hockey fans know its bs.

That’s generally how that works 😂

@@Joe_Ma99 yeah but vegas is different, everybody hates them

@@MrNightRome Kings fan but like the knights. Not a jealous person.

I know this sounds silly, but I rooted for your team out of respect for you guys after we were defeated. And I'm an Oiler fan.

Never gonna happen. Canada sucks. And so do The Rangers...

As a Wild fan, I think that logic only makes them second. To the Wild, of course 😎

They get snow, right? Sure. I’ll take Columbus or Mini. Better than Florida or California teams. Or Arizona.

Columbus....still has a team? Who knew. And .....why?

Wouldn't be mad at it for sure, they beat tampa round 1 a few years back, i will never forget.

Jets

i think that has less to do with Bedard himself and more to do with the whole kyle beach thing. that's likely to linger for a while too, i'd think

@@edschramm6757Literally everyone who was involved in that is gone.

@@donaldwobamajr6550 i'm not entirely sure that matters. it's still associated with the brand, even if nobody involved is present

Just like minnesota .

I agree

they might be like, a quarter step below Boston, but that's also partially i think that Boston has Marchand. to my recollection offhand, toronto doesn't have any of the rat bastards of the league on their roster, though i may be mistaken

Oh, God yes! And I love the Maple Leafs! lol Despite what Shannon says, I still think more people would hate to see Tampa Bay win the next Cup than any other team - including Vegas.

​@@edschramm6757it's funny how all the fans & wannabe sports journalists hate Brad Marchand, then when there's nothing else going on, are they stayed out drinking too late and got a whip out an article, they only have to write as an article that has the name Brad Marchand and the word "hate" in it-and they can buy their hot pockets for the week! They have no idea that the NHL actually goes after him because of his Twitter feed, standing up for players. Last three suspensions were based on reputation, going back to 2015. Not an actual infractions. Read the reports yourself But I think the NHL and count on the fact that fans don't read the George parros player safety reports. Because George knows that modern Bettman's hockey fans don't read. 😊 So many wannabe jocks have made careers off of trashing Brad Marchand but players coaches and every other franchise would love to have him!? Well thank goodness those GM's don't listen to Fairweather foolish fans!

As a habs fan, yes! Look I want a Canadian team to hold the cup, except the leafs of course.

i can get behind that. personally i'm indifferent about canada winning a cup, but that ticks pretty much every box for me that doesn't involve my own team winning the cup (LA). not a rival, respectable group of players, the fans have gone through suffering, and it's not a fanbase that i really find particularly mockable.

An Irish Habs fan? There must be a good story here.

I think pavs being his last year debunks that and I’m sure everybody around the league wants him to finally breakthrough and win one before he ends his career, Benn or no benn

stone was fine and they got a cup but I guess the haters gone hate. 🤷 so be it.

@@Joe_Ma99 yeah the Wild, buffalo, and Detroit fans will always loathe Dallas. Oh well 🤷🏼‍♂️

As a Devils fan I would be much less okay with a Rangers win than Islanders.

@@steve3847same here, don’t have much beef with the islanders myself. Compared to the rags, flyers, and maybe the kings

As a Rangers fan I would be pretty angry with Islanders’ Cup. Devils would be just annoying since their fanbase suddenly appeared out of nowhere and is incredibly annoying. But I have to say their team is pretty strong and exciting to watch.

@@dorksn LMAO I'm sure it's annoying that they've won more in the span of 8 years than the Rangers did in 80. 😆

The Devils have won 3 Stanley Cups in the last 30 years so they’re definitely not the second most deserving for a neutral fan.

Even then it is still is hard to compete w no state tax, year round golf and warm weather, and to be able to go through a slump w/o being trashed by the media, and go out to eat w your wife and kids on a Saturday w/o being recognized and bombarded for pictures and autographs. It’s hard to blame them.

Well said

It's not entirely true though. While, yes leaf fans will not cheer for the Habs in the final or vice versa but most people in leaf country cheered for the canucks when they made the finals. I think it would be the same for Oilers, Flames, Jets.

I actually think it's the opposite. It's a uniquely Canadian thing to root for your arch-rival just so "Canada" can win the Cup. You think Red Sox fans would root for the Yankees to eliminate the Blue Jays just so the World Series stays stateside? Hell no.

@@Badnercalabrese Flames "fans" are a weird breed I find. Their team could go 4-78-0 on the season, but 4-0-0 against the Oilers, and they would call that a successful year. That said, I probably should have emphasized the *many* not being *most*. Just that the "My team or no one" group are a sizable enough, and obnoxiously loud minority, that negatively affects many interactions with the fan base as a whole.

i was just thinkin about that ur welcome and adopted

Could we then use the Bettman excuse for not winning?

@@jefflarson1652 ya

It's interesting. I knew Oilers fans who cheered for Vegas after the Oilers were defeated out of respect (myself included), but I'm not sure how common that is. A lot of Vegas fans seem to really despise the Oilers.

@@oscargoldman4867 In your opinion why is that? I'm genuinely quite curious.

Agreed, and they have had plenty of pain and suffering over the last 30 years.

Islanders didn't make the playoffs in 21-22. It was 19-20 that they made it to the CF only to be overwhelmed by Tampa Bay. Then again in 20-21.

Don't under estimate the Sabres fan base there are transplants all over the country.

@heartoftexas8092 I can vouch for this. Knew a guy at my local coffee roaster who was a huge Sabres fan. We’d always talk hockey when I’d stop in. I’m a coyotes fan living in Tucson btw.

I have to say I'd have a problem with Detroit winning it, but only because I'm a Colorado fan and have been watching since the 90's... Haha, yes. Until the day we die eh?

@@briankeeley6464 A rival! May the best team win!

Same here.

i'd have a problem with colorado winning it, and i'm not a fan of either team.

Goalie situation makes it sketchy, Levi was great when he was in net but he is young and goalies take the longest to develop.

The bloviation over the Sabres...sure.