Which tune is best for your Toyota Tacoma?

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Muscle American

Muscle American

Күн бұрын

#tacoma #ott #mods
In today's video, I get my 2018 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road tuned with the Overland Torque Tune (OTT)! I previously had the KDMax 6.0 and was happy with it but heard that the OTT was better. I had to find out for myself! Hopefully this video is informative and gives you some real-world examples of what to expect. I also want to give a shout out to my tuner Barrett and his tuning business Just So LLC. If you are in the Utah area, be sure to contact him with any questions. All helpful links are provided below.
Overland Tailor Torque Tune Website
overlandtailor.com/
Toyota Tuning Network
toyotatuningnetwork.com/
Barrett with Just So LLC (tuner in the video)
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Chapters
Intro 0:00
KDMax Review 0:28
Installing The Tune 4:19
OTT Review 9:28
After The Tune 14:19
Final Thoughts 18:22

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@firedog6447
@firedog6447 7 ай бұрын
really like the information being given from the tuner. unique other than other videos ive seen regarding the OTT tune, thanks.
@tk421tuning
@tk421tuning Жыл бұрын
Major upgrade for the truck! Well done.
@ourlifeinwyoming4654
@ourlifeinwyoming4654 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this comprehensive review. We'll be getting the OTT August 5th - can't wait!
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 11 ай бұрын
I think you’re going to love it!
@ourlifeinwyoming4654
@ourlifeinwyoming4654 11 ай бұрын
@@MuscleAmerican Thanks!
@loneapple440
@loneapple440 11 ай бұрын
@@ourlifeinwyoming4654 I would agree with MuscleAmerican, I had my 2017 recently OTT tuned and it makes a hugh difference in throttle response and shift points, success as drive your truck
@xapyremerlin8019
@xapyremerlin8019 5 күн бұрын
PHENOMENAL INFO THANKS A LOT
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 5 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@honda116969
@honda116969 6 ай бұрын
Nice looking truck! 👍👍 I'ma get the OTT tune on my TRD off-road 6-speed manual. Need the driveability. Thanks for the info
@TRDTalk
@TRDTalk 9 ай бұрын
Gotta get that OTT soon!
@justice4all32
@justice4all32 11 ай бұрын
Thanksgiving Point! Love that place.
@bs081502bs
@bs081502bs 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been running the OTT tune since Dec ‘23. I got the mild/med tune. I’m impressed with the power curve and you can definitely feel in in the 2k-3k rpm range. The only complaint that I have is that I’m still not happy with the shifting. Even when I’m using the pedal, it seems like the truck still downshifts way too much even on the slightest of inclines. Note: I’m only running 265/70R17’s. Also during local (in town) driving and I’m light on the throttle it like to jump back and forth between 5th and 6th gear way too much. The truck seems to drive its best with ECT Power button on.
@Mumfy64
@Mumfy64 Жыл бұрын
I just got re-tuned due to my 5.29s. You should feel the difference with upgraded gearing. Great Video.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
Who did the re-gear for you? Nice channel BTW.
@Mumfy64
@Mumfy64 Жыл бұрын
@@MuscleAmerican Agility Customs did my re-gear.
@stackthatartpaper
@stackthatartpaper Жыл бұрын
Got my 22 Limited OTT tuned today. It’s unreal. Best $400 I ever spent. Can’t wait to drive it again to work tomorrow with a heavy load. If you’re on the fence about a tune, you’re cheating yourself. It’s surreal how good it is. And the optional ECT button mode is insane
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
Yep totally agree! Towing is going to be a huge change.
@Sam-kn2mm
@Sam-kn2mm Жыл бұрын
Does it void the warranty?
@stackthatartpaper
@stackthatartpaper Жыл бұрын
@@Sam-kn2mm technically yeah, but only if you walk into the dealer and announce that you had it tuned. There is no way for the dealer to tell, the ECU reads as stock if they check it. Get serviced at the dealer regularly, not worried at all.
@Sam-kn2mm
@Sam-kn2mm Жыл бұрын
@@stackthatartpaper sweet thank you man
@lucascoxe1481
@lucascoxe1481 4 ай бұрын
Still love it?
@Makemysammich23
@Makemysammich23 Жыл бұрын
2016 Tacoma sport double cab 4WD 6’ bed. KD Max 2.0 couple years ago and haven’t looked back. Fixes stock Toyota crap drivability. Trailer pulling outstanding, even through hills and mountains.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
You’re still running the 2.0 tune? You should look into the 10. I hear it’s been improved.
@metalogre1
@metalogre1 10 ай бұрын
IMO its been perfected
@brianrichard1768
@brianrichard1768 10 ай бұрын
Great vid. The KDMAX is on the 10.0 tune. I just did mine on the 10.0 and lost 1 mpg but fixed the trans issues including the radar cruise. Also gained power.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 10 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! Glad you’re enjoying it
@chaoticgood3935
@chaoticgood3935 Жыл бұрын
The KDMax 6.0 is two years old. Almost any tune is better at this point. KDMax came out with the ‘9.0’ and called it the “KDMax 9.0” weeks before OTT made their “9.0.” That said, both OTT and KDMax are excellent tunes and will make the driver very happy.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
I agree and pointed that out in the video that I was not comparing the latest and greatest KDMax tune. And I was happy with the 6.0.
@MrFdxdoeboy
@MrFdxdoeboy Жыл бұрын
Exactly, this wasn't a fare comparison tbh..🤷
@amazinggrace8136
@amazinggrace8136 5 ай бұрын
Got the OTT on my 2020 OR. No more sluggin. Love how light the truck feels now.
@neiljohnson1545
@neiljohnson1545 11 ай бұрын
You may also want to look at a company called D3performance. They specialize in toyota's. All toyota's. They offer a module with 6 preset tunes or you can develop your own custom one. They also offer a 30 day money back return policy.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 11 ай бұрын
Interesting, I looked them up and they are only in Texas?
@TRUMPSUCKSBIGTIME
@TRUMPSUCKSBIGTIME Жыл бұрын
Great video can’t wait to wake up my Taco
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Let me know what you think about it when you get it done.
@iq6840
@iq6840 7 ай бұрын
Do a video with the adaptive cruise control.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 7 ай бұрын
I think I did turn it on at some point in the video
@TexasRy
@TexasRy 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic! Just got a new 2023 Tacoma 4x4 Offroad and it is very slow/sluggish and heading to Dallas, TX tomorrow to get an OTT tune and looking forward to it. Wonder why the factory tune is so sucky and slow, probably something to do with emissions, stupid sh**!
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 10 ай бұрын
Your going to love it!
@fisheye1406
@fisheye1406 Жыл бұрын
Hold the button down and adaptive cruise control will turn off
@jonnyutah.308
@jonnyutah.308 Жыл бұрын
I put the KDMax 9.0 tune on my 2022 about two months ago. I love everything about it especially hitting the etc/sport button only when needed though mostly for hills and off road. The one thing I wasn’t prepared for was the noticeable loss in mpg’s. On a full tank of 87 my gauge reads around 250’ish miles range to the tank and that’s averaging around 13-15 miles per gallon for me and that’s with 33’ tires. I’m thinking I’ll do some research with a few tanks of 91 to compare but I already feel like I’m at the gas pump WAY more than I’d like to be. I’d like to try this time but at 400$ a pop that gets expensive. Has anyone out there gone from the KDMax9.0 to the OTT tune or vice verse and what’s your opinion on which is better?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
This is my 2 cents. I don’t think you will notice much of a difference to justify the cost.
@stackthatartpaper
@stackthatartpaper Жыл бұрын
The 33s and if you had it lifted are what’s doing that is my guess, W/OTT I actually gained a mpg, get 24 on long trips, 20 in the city
@alexs825
@alexs825 11 ай бұрын
@@stackthatartpaperidk I get 18 mpg combined on 35s. Regeared too which really hit mpg. Stock tune
@timjones6560
@timjones6560 Жыл бұрын
With the ott they offer different level. Are you happy that you went with lite and not any of the other settings?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
Yeah I am. Anything more felt like it was really jumpy off the line.
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@Auxbeam Жыл бұрын
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@dajahvue
@dajahvue Жыл бұрын
Stock tune with latest tsb update I have found to be the best. Utilizes all gears in town and on highway it wants to hold 6 just as well as the tunes. When I went back to stock the latest software does not get delete thus giving you smooth gear shifts. Also give the OVtune a try if you like the stock shift logic. It's like OEM plus with greater mpgs. I'll jump tunes around tho depending what I'm doing. Towing, highway city etc
@MiraclesFSC
@MiraclesFSC Жыл бұрын
Free at the dealership? Wasn't aware there was an update. Thanks for the info
@clown8058
@clown8058 Жыл бұрын
​@@MiraclesFSC my dealer refused to do it. Very disappointed
@edgarmadrid2343
@edgarmadrid2343 Жыл бұрын
What does tsb stand for?
@shaunbuxton1990
@shaunbuxton1990 Жыл бұрын
@@edgarmadrid2343 Technical Service Bulletin
@jandelahoussaye9834
@jandelahoussaye9834 9 ай бұрын
My Dealship and many others wont do Tune
@gordonwagner6245
@gordonwagner6245 Ай бұрын
2020 2.7 - do you have any information on how that adjusts performance?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure they offer a tune for the 2.7 motor
@patrickclifford5313
@patrickclifford5313 Жыл бұрын
I really wish one of you guys would put the cruise control on and see if it stays in the gear that is a major problem everybody's having is cruise control on the highway keeps changing gears any it bit of a slope
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
I ask my tuner about this in the video. He says that adaptive cruise control remains pretty much the same because they don’t want to be messing with those specs. Normal cruise control is slightly improved with because of the added power and torque but not 100% fixed. Hope that helps, check out that part of the video where he explains it.
@jayman9763
@jayman9763 11 ай бұрын
Anybody have the medium/spicy tune? Thinking about going down to mild/medium because mine is too jumpy
@gonchaplayz
@gonchaplayz 4 ай бұрын
Just got mild/medium, it’s perfect
@A.Duchek1
@A.Duchek1 Ай бұрын
It’s been a year since you did the OTT tune, any new information? Still happy no issues? I am still debating putting on my 2023 Tacoma.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Ай бұрын
No issues, wish I would’ve done it sooner
@A.Duchek1
@A.Duchek1 Ай бұрын
@@MuscleAmerican Thanks
@mow-it-pros5040
@mow-it-pros5040 Жыл бұрын
I’m happy with KD MAX 9.0, other than adaptive cruise. Better than stock, but still shifts more than just driving with pedals Interested in OTT just to compare but I don’t see myself dropping th extra cash just to compare Any tune is better than Toyotas stock tuning
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
Agreed! They both solve a problem and that’s a win in my book.
@Sam-kn2mm
@Sam-kn2mm Жыл бұрын
When you tune your Taco does it void the warranty? I know it’s a dumb question
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
Great question, the tunes are virtually undetectable as I’m told. I’ve never heard anyone have warranty issues after getting one.
@ashforkdan
@ashforkdan Жыл бұрын
Sea level makes a huge difference
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I definitely lose some HP being in the mountains.
@270eman
@270eman 5 ай бұрын
Does it never go to 5th or 6th gear? Seems like its constantly in 3rd and 4th. Is 2nd gear at 80mph really a good thing?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 2 ай бұрын
The display wasn’t always accurate. It’s definitely not in second gear at 80mph.
@brucesatow
@brucesatow 10 ай бұрын
The CVC tune would be the one to compare all others with.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 10 ай бұрын
I used to hear a lot about the CVC tune but not anymore for some reason. My first tune was the OV tune and that didn’t do very much and from what I understand the CVC tune is a slight variation from the OV tune.
@brucesatow
@brucesatow 10 ай бұрын
@@MuscleAmerican - I have the CVC tune and there are various tunes for various purposes. I think it's great.
@mijilisti
@mijilisti 9 күн бұрын
Where can I get it done in central Florida?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 9 күн бұрын
@@mijilisti check out the video description. I have a link to look up the tuner closest to you.
@chriss.6526
@chriss.6526 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if these tunes affect the cycling of port versus direct injection? My concern is that if the tune sprays more fuel, more often via direct injection and does not provide a commensurate increase in the port injection cycle, you might see accumulation of carbon on the valves at 50 or 100,000 miles.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure. I’d reach out to the OTT guys and ask them. A link to their website is in the description.
@chriss.6526
@chriss.6526 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do. Great vid by the way.
@takenpictures
@takenpictures Жыл бұрын
great question! Did you ever find out?
@chriss.6526
@chriss.6526 Жыл бұрын
I emailed them, and they responded with a somewhat generic reply of “we adhere to all of Toyota‘s engineering principles “. They didn’t explicitly say if the tuneit did, or did not disrupt the direct/port injection cycling.🤷🏻‍♂️
@takenpictures
@takenpictures Жыл бұрын
@@chriss.6526 thank you. I don't know if I want to do it if it no longer cycles between the two, the way it does stock. Just because most people don't know how the system works and wouldn't think to ask, the tuner should still know about how this affects it.
@Allusionized
@Allusionized Жыл бұрын
Have you noticed any difference in mpgs?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s better. I’m getting about 20 vs 18.
@olivergarcia1062
@olivergarcia1062 11 ай бұрын
How is your tune have you had any issues ?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 11 ай бұрын
It’s been great! No issues, I highly recommend it.
@DrJasonTorn
@DrJasonTorn 9 ай бұрын
Should I get a tune or buy something like pedal commander?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 9 ай бұрын
The tune will adjust the throttle response, and shift points. All the peddle commander does is adjust the throttle response. The tune is 100x better.
@DrJasonTorn
@DrJasonTorn 9 ай бұрын
@@MuscleAmerican great thank you so much!
@donbuckley2230
@donbuckley2230 10 ай бұрын
What size tires are you running? TIA
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 10 ай бұрын
265/75/R16
@birdenlightening5855
@birdenlightening5855 Жыл бұрын
Would it fix the rev hang in manual transmission ?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
That’s a good question and I can’t speak for a manual. Reach out to OTT directly and they can answer your question. The link to their site is in the description.
@birdenlightening5855
@birdenlightening5855 Жыл бұрын
@@MuscleAmerican thanks !
@notmmmbopp
@notmmmbopp Жыл бұрын
I have been running the KDMax for 13k miles, no rev hang, huge improvement over stock tune.
@CD-hc5ds
@CD-hc5ds 5 ай бұрын
Have you pulled your trailer with the new tune??
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 5 ай бұрын
Yeah it makes a big difference
@Midnightrider6717
@Midnightrider6717 Жыл бұрын
What time do you recommend for a manual,
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
I believe OTT has a tune for manuals. Check out their website, I have a link in the video description
@wb4514
@wb4514 Жыл бұрын
Will a custom tune void the factory warranty ?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
In summary yes and no. If they find it yes, will they find it? no. I wouldn’t be worried about it.
@Turbinelife87
@Turbinelife87 2 күн бұрын
Well keeping you at such a high RPM is smoking gun on your loss in MPG. All you are doing is wearing your engine out faster
@xfcarcache8771
@xfcarcache8771 10 ай бұрын
Does this apply to the sport 2wd?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 10 ай бұрын
Yes you can get a tune for that set up!
@ashforkdan
@ashforkdan Жыл бұрын
How much does the tune cost?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
It varies but typically $300-$400. Check out the links in the video description to find a tuner near you.
@brianchisnell1548
@brianchisnell1548 Жыл бұрын
Stock is rock.
@romeropostali520
@romeropostali520 Жыл бұрын
Are these tunes for 87 octane?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
Yes you can stay on 87. They, and Toyota don’t recommend going any lower.
@johnpolk1555
@johnpolk1555 5 ай бұрын
Where can I get an OTT tune?
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 5 ай бұрын
There is a link in the description on where to find a tuner near you.
@deadbrother5355
@deadbrother5355 11 ай бұрын
Is dude going up parleys? Edit: Lol i guess so
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 11 ай бұрын
I sure am!
@alexannovavarela9410
@alexannovavarela9410 8 ай бұрын
I'm looking into the OTT tune, but the truck has like 3k on the clock. So I am not sure if I should wait or get it quick
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 8 ай бұрын
There really isn’t any reason to wait. I wish I would’ve gotten it sooner.
@metalogre1
@metalogre1 10 ай бұрын
Holy crap man OTT didnt even exist when Kdmax was on 6.0.
@kylemac6547
@kylemac6547 10 ай бұрын
Technically this is TRUE, but OTT was formerly OVT, (orange virus tune) which has been around quite a bit longer than KDMAX. I currently have the KDMAX 9.0 Pro XT, and am getting the new OTT tomorrow. Will report back with my findings
@xylianis08
@xylianis08 10 ай бұрын
Curious as to what your thoughts are on OTT vs KD Max. Thinking about switching@@kylemac6547
@mg-ke3ji
@mg-ke3ji 6 ай бұрын
​@@kylemac6547how was it ?
@kylemac6547
@kylemac6547 6 ай бұрын
@mg-ke3ji honestly you can feel the torque difference. The coolest thing is the ECT button I'd customizable. So I got the hot-spicy tune. So the normal throttle response was hot snd the ECT- would move me to the quickest throttle response. This was actually too much for me. And I turned it down to mild spicy. I've got a 17 trd sport 4 door 5.5 bed. I don't run any armor and I'm on 33s. During the spring and fall we run a RTT, 2 bikes, and 2 kayaks. This probably adds another 500 (ish pounds) and the ECT button is there if I want it but I certainly don't need it. The guy who tuned me also has kdmax, but he switched to OTT after trying it for a few months. The shifting is faster, and especially on the highway, the torque is there for it to not scream going up hills. This is where I noticed the biggest difference, even the kd tune would downshift and hit 5.5k rpm on big hills. Not with this tune. If you're interested in talking more this is a long post but I can answer any questions you have if you drop me your instagram handle
@kylemac6547
@kylemac6547 6 ай бұрын
@mg-ke3ji bottom line is the OTT tune is the best tune I've used. I've referred 2 friends and 2 random locals to it(everyone has a taco here in NWA) and they've had the same results, the overall consensus is its the #1 mod for your truck. And definetly the best bang for your buck.
@E85s14
@E85s14 Жыл бұрын
Comparing the very old KDMAX 6.0 tune to the latest OTT tune??? SMH
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
Do you think the new KDMAX tune is better?
@WSTuning
@WSTuning Жыл бұрын
​@MuscleAmerican I think you'd be impressed with the 10.0! I'll be in SLC in two weeks if you want to give it a try. Let me know 👍🏻
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
@@WSTuning yeah I bet it’s great too! I really did enjoy the 6.0 tune.
@1488ThirdReich
@1488ThirdReich Жыл бұрын
@@MuscleAmerican Went from OTT back to KDMax 10.0. I am happier with KDMax. Take @carlosibarra897 up on his offer. I think you'll also make the switch back to KDMax.
@ayeitsjayoo
@ayeitsjayoo Жыл бұрын
I noticed your truck stays in lower gear(3/4)and your riding above 70mphor even higher,I didn’t see it go to 6 gear at all.if that the case after tuned you could burn up your lower gear sooner.I want the tune but after seeing you in lower gear cruising in highway I’ll have to pass for now.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
Yeah the software I used isn’t always accurate for some reason. It’s usually a gear or two higher that what it actually says.
@user-td1uv2nt3r
@user-td1uv2nt3r 7 ай бұрын
Just get a manual transmission! You can do the driving, not a computer. It seemed like 90% of what you discussed was about the computer shifting for you.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 7 ай бұрын
Yeah a manual would help for sure. There is a OTT for manuals that improves throttle response but mainly it’s for fixing the shift points of the automatic.
@tbirdsdign
@tbirdsdign Жыл бұрын
👂???
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
What?
@ronaldwehe9353
@ronaldwehe9353 7 ай бұрын
Not a fair comparison kdnax 10.0 is where it's at
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 2 ай бұрын
Why? Have you had the OTT?
@93henfan
@93henfan Жыл бұрын
Hah. He said "refineness."
@ripperx444
@ripperx444 8 ай бұрын
Will ruin reliability for sure by doing this
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 8 ай бұрын
Why?
@ripperx444
@ripperx444 8 ай бұрын
@@MuscleAmerican what do you mean why? You changed the entire power curve. Loading up the revs on a 20 year old engine straining every part. There is a reason they run 150k that's due to the lower power curve which doenst strains the trans and engine... I've tuned so many cars and they all become less reliable. This is a Toyota truck not a Ferrari....
@AntilleanConfederation
@AntilleanConfederation 7 ай бұрын
@@ripperx444lmaooo. You think gear hunting don’t fuck the trans up? 😂😂😂. If anything it helps the motor and trans not be fighting the driver and last longer.
@ripperx444
@ripperx444 7 ай бұрын
@@AntilleanConfederation clearly not Jack
@AntilleanConfederation
@AntilleanConfederation 7 ай бұрын
@@ripperx444 listen man. If you are too much of a scary cat to tune your truck that’s fine. Let others live life and stop being a Karen. You the kid that snitched on other kids and told the teacher cus they having fun and you didn’t want to brake the rules. 🤣🤣
@BenNSyder
@BenNSyder Жыл бұрын
Tuning a six cyl brick is like putting a thing on your 185 lb wife. Nothing will change
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
You should try it. It’s not going to be a race car by any means but it definitely makes it more enjoyable to drive.
@tech1302
@tech1302 Жыл бұрын
I can 100 percent assure you that it will change.
@dudeski934
@dudeski934 Жыл бұрын
I need to find someone that does 4.6 V8 swaps
@JuanManuel-fm9jt
@JuanManuel-fm9jt Жыл бұрын
Kdmax 9.0 and OTT are the same!!! VF TUNER
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican Жыл бұрын
What? VF Tuner is the software used to make the tunes. They are different.
@JuanManuel-fm9jt
@JuanManuel-fm9jt Жыл бұрын
@@MuscleAmerican exactly same from Vf tuner. All the tuner from OTT used to be kdmax tuner. It’s the same different name
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