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Motorcraft FL-2051S Oil Filter Cut Open vs. Donaldson P502503 Oil Filter Cut Open

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Whip City Wrencher

Whip City Wrencher

Күн бұрын

Oil Filter Review.
Two diesel oil filters battling it out. Which one do you think is a better oil filter?
Motorcraft FL-2051S: www.xtremedies...
Donalson P502503: www.xtremedies...
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@exodortch
@exodortch Жыл бұрын
I just inherited a 6.7l PS and wanted a little insight. Great video. I would hazard a guess that the Donaldson filter has a thicker ring, bigger inlet holes, and a stiffer bypass spring to compensate for the higher passthrough resistance of oil thorough the filter media with a smaller micron rating. I have no idea how much the oil psi would be increased, but i ASSUME it would be in a range that would not harm the overall lubrication system and would not impede the volume of flow to a significant degree... anyone have thoughts on this assumption?
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I don't think it should impede any oil flow through the filter, but I'll pin your Question so that it sits on Top.
@exodortch
@exodortch Жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher cool, thanks!
@olhesty2196
@olhesty2196 11 ай бұрын
That is a well thought and a very intelligent reply. Quite impressed as most replies or rationales are gobbledygook. I’m in a seriously dusty environment, so micron filtration of both air and oil are the utmost importance to me.
@404notfound.....
@404notfound..... 2 жыл бұрын
Both filters are good! But here at the shop we run only Donaldson for the class 8 trucks. Once again a great comparison my friend. Wishing you a merry Christmas and happy New Year. 🎄👍🇨🇦
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You 404, and a Merry Christmas to you also👍
@johng5160
@johng5160 2 жыл бұрын
Here's my question to many of the commenters; why the Donaldson over the Ford since the Ford has a much greater sq in of filter area? Many of the Donaldson features are superior but I have a hard time dismissing the filter area.
@TreverAdamo
@TreverAdamo Жыл бұрын
This is exactly my same question.
@chrismarookian1523
@chrismarookian1523 6 ай бұрын
Micron rating is better on the donaldson
@breakfastclub3909
@breakfastclub3909 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. You should figure out a drain through test to figure out the time it takes oil to just drain through the fibers at the same temp, both ambient and 220 deg f
@tomdicks5614
@tomdicks5614 2 жыл бұрын
That's some big filters. Great video as always
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You👍 Yep, some big bad boy oil filters.🤣 LOL
@scottymoondogjakubin4766
@scottymoondogjakubin4766 2 жыл бұрын
i just may switch to Donaldson after watching the video ! %99 at 18 micron is pretty darn good
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
It is a good micron rating
@CTWLitigation
@CTWLitigation Жыл бұрын
I have a 6.7 Powerstroke that uses both of these filters. I definitely love the Donaldson with Rotella T5! My oil samples always come back showing great filtration and clean oil at 5k OCI. Thanks for the video, WCW. Regards,
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
You're Very Welcome, Glay you liked the video👍
@GT-mn3bx
@GT-mn3bx 2 жыл бұрын
Donaldson has some good videos on here. I guess the Donaldson Blue is the good one and lots of off highway Cat diesels run these as well. Dozers, loaders etc.
@msclecarcrzy
@msclecarcrzy 2 жыл бұрын
The dust has cleared and looks like the Donaldson comes out on top! Merry Christmas whip 🌲❄
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas
@TylerTheFieldServiceTech
@TylerTheFieldServiceTech 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! I work as a Caterpillar Heavy Equipment Mechanic for a dealer. We sell and use Donaldson as a second choice to CAT Filtration. They make awesome filters!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! and Thanks for sharing!👍
@enterBJ40
@enterBJ40 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Donaldson makes the Caterpillar filter.
@153eddy
@153eddy Жыл бұрын
The Donaldson inlet holes are positioned further out and angled out as well. Id assume that helps with the flow of the unfiltered oil outwards instead of bouncing around the top of the baseplate. I'd have to give this one to the Donaldson filter.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
It could help with the flow, I don't know? Thanks for your feedback👍
@ellalamont6943
@ellalamont6943 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! 🦌🎄🦌
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Ella, Merry Christmas!😊
@ellalamont6943
@ellalamont6943 2 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome! 🎅🎄🤶
@nicolem.792
@nicolem.792 2 жыл бұрын
I like Motorcraft, especially with that top style bypass valve but that Donaldson filter media is top notch. Overall, I’m saying Donaldson takes it! When measuring the fully synthetic “gauze” type filters I would suggest not squeezing the media while measuring it. It’s like measuring a sheet of typing paper and a paper towel and saying the paper towel is thinner after compressing it.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
There really isn't a good way to measure the filter media with a caliper. I try not to squeeze it that hard. Thanks for watching and the suggestion.
@michaelherrell5381
@michaelherrell5381 2 жыл бұрын
I do not own a diesel but an interesting show. Big filters! Merry Christmas. Good show.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Merry Christmas Michael👍
@ivanmitchell3876
@ivanmitchell3876 2 жыл бұрын
thanks whip 4 another great video.if i had to choose,it would be donaldson on this 1.happy holidays.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome, Ivan! Thanks for the feedback and Have a Happy New Year!👍
@warrenself
@warrenself 2 жыл бұрын
Working at the Ford dealer I’ve noticed that most of the 6.7 PSD aftermarket oil filters look to be the same can and baseplate as the Motorcraft. Baldwin and Donaldson are two exceptions. Mann + Hummel seems to make their own Purolator and Wix filters along with farming out all the auto parts store brands and obviously Motorcraft which they make.
@danhambrick6331
@danhambrick6331 2 жыл бұрын
Donaldson for the win.💪 Merry Christmas......
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Dan
@jonathannance5086
@jonathannance5086 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. Both of the filters look good to go and seem very service ready.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome! Glad you like the video😊
@mikebennett703
@mikebennett703 2 жыл бұрын
Donaldson gets my vote.. Merry Christmas Whip! 🎄🎄🎅🤶
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Merry Christmas Mike👍
@mikebennett703
@mikebennett703 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher Thank you Whip..Looking forward to a new year of Oil filter Fridays.. Best wishes!💪👍
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikebennett703 Thanks Mike👍
@blk77sunshn
@blk77sunshn 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a definitely different video ! What I mean is it's not every day you get to see inside a GIANT oil filter. I have to agree with you about the leaf spring style being not as good as a coil spring. Well thanks again!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! But be careful, saying coil spring is taboo with some folks. LOL😊
@stevenw2866
@stevenw2866 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Steven
@juanzo74latincrypto52
@juanzo74latincrypto52 3 ай бұрын
Cool video but I’d rather have seen you compare the Motorcraft filter to a Donaldson blue filter. If these are for diesel applications then the Blue filter is the one that you should have used. From the looks of it, the Motorcraft filter is the superior filter over the standard Donaldson, but like I said, I would’ve rather have seen the Donaldson blue filter in this comparison.. cheers.
@lisab3396
@lisab3396 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍 First obvious and impressive notation is the embossed date and time code of the Donaldson. The mark of a quality Mfd! I've never heard of Donaldson Filters, but then I don't drive diesel. Overall, I was more impressed with the Donaldson filter even with less pleats. Did I miss the OEM's rated mileage intervals/replacement? How does that compare vs the micron rating's? As a note: I suspect that Donaldson is using a filter media typically used for water dirt and microbe filtration to extreme levels. Only being is that oil is very much more viscous!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback👍
@AJmx2702001
@AJmx2702001 Жыл бұрын
Donaldson takes credit for getting engines away from oil bath air cleaner. And I think their filter media is proprietary!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
► Oil Filter Friday, watch a New Automotive oil filter inspection video every Friday on this KZfaq channel.
@jesmith2086
@jesmith2086 Жыл бұрын
It might be benficial to do a compairson on Motorcraft Oil Filter FL2124S which is now being marketed as replacing Motorcraft FL-2051S (at least on Amazon).
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
Hi James, Your in luck, I'm working on that video right now. Will probably be shown 1st Friday in April.
@bigjim5551212
@bigjim5551212 2 жыл бұрын
Donaldson only makes filters, I think I would go for that. Even though there's is more filter on the motorcraft
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching Highway Patrol for this ! Had seen the episode before. : )
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
You missed out . with Broderick Crawford, He's a much better actor than me. lol 🤣
@wesoblander3648
@wesoblander3648 2 жыл бұрын
Barnaby, you and Cannon always get to the truth :)
@RRaucina
@RRaucina 11 ай бұрын
Motorcraft - made in USA and more paper inside. #1 win.
@GT-mn3bx
@GT-mn3bx 2 жыл бұрын
Motorcrafts micron ratings are weird. 80% at 20 could mean 99@ ?? . There needs to be a standard...like 99% at 35 vs 99% at 20....you know which filters better.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Yes this would be nice
@enterBJ40
@enterBJ40 2 жыл бұрын
It does exist. It's called ISO cleansing standards. Look for ir.
@rayrooney4656
@rayrooney4656 2 жыл бұрын
Solution for "little awkward" weighing problem: Weigh them BEFORE opening them.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip, But that would mess up my whole routine. 😊 Merry Christmas!
@TreverAdamo
@TreverAdamo Жыл бұрын
My biggest question is that Donaldson has so much less filter media how's it going to do over the life of the filter in lines of capacity compared to the motocraft?
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
It should do fine for regular oil changes.
@j.t.cooper2963
@j.t.cooper2963 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏻😎
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!👍
@dodgesportsman772
@dodgesportsman772 2 жыл бұрын
Purolator for the WIN!!
@paulbeyer5789
@paulbeyer5789 2 жыл бұрын
Do caterpillar filter
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion👍
@enterBJ40
@enterBJ40 2 жыл бұрын
Caterpillar filters are made by Donaldson so probably no big difference
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 2 жыл бұрын
Hope Ford not use stamped leaf springs in their trucks to save money.
@olhesty2196
@olhesty2196 11 ай бұрын
Let’s consider a home air filter. One could buy those cheap ass see through fiber strand filters. Even if one were to add 10 layers of it, the filtration would still be abysmal to even the lowest rated MERV pleated filter. I completely understand surface area, but consider effective surface area. If ya got a new truck with minimal sludge build up, and wanna keep her runnin’ for a long time with retention of power. Don’t scrimp on your filters secondary to price. Trust me, it is the cheapest insurance you can buy. Same goes for oil. I didn’t know this, but Amsoil is the only 100% motor oil available (that I know of). All your “Full Synthetics”😆😂😆, have to only legally have 25% of synthetic to be labeled “Full Syn”! What!!!!! Yep, 100% true, and if you really believe that your full synthetic oil of choice is providing more than 25%😂. Hey, these companies are all for profit, and will cut corners at your expense. Both you and I have been duped for years. Microscopically speaking, the difference b/t syn and conventional is the difference b/t marbles and gravel. But don’t take my word for it, look it up yourself. Will conventional oil or “full syn - not 100%” work? Yes, absolutely, but if and when you reach extreme high mileage, don’t scratch your head as to why you have significant power loss. If ya live in dusty environments, a 5k oil change is probably not a good idea. Remember, it is recommended at 5k, but that’s the general recommendation, consider your environment. Your truck/ your choice. Lastly, why do you think many semi tractor trailer trucks obligately use Donaldson? Trust me when I say, “Your ride ain’t gonna see a fraction of the mileage put on those engines 🤔. That’s big money to replace or repair those engines. You don’t think they got oil filtration figured out yet? One last thing, STAY THE HELL AWAY from reusable oiled air filters (K&N or anything that resembles it - hint: look up Project Farm KZfaq air filter). Anyway, that’s my two cents.
@daewooparts
@daewooparts 2 жыл бұрын
Donaldson over Motorcrap
@enterBJ40
@enterBJ40 2 жыл бұрын
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