WHO KILLED WHO in Scream (1996)

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With Billy and Stu both taking turns as the iconic Ghostface Killer in Scream, there has been much debate over which one did what / killed who. So in this video, we will go over all the small details of what you missed in Scream (1996) to find out exactly which killer was behind the ghostface mask in each scene.
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What is up Scream team! I asked you guys what additional Scream content you wanted to see, and this was the most requested video. So this will be the first episode in a series of 'Which Killer was Who in the Scream Franchise' starting here with the very first movie, followed up by Scream 2, and concluding with Scream 4. Obviously there is no need to make one for Scream 3, since Roman was the ONLY killer.
As always, I want to point out that this video is based on my own personal opinions, and nothing here is meant to be 100% factual. Having said that, Wes Craven (the brilliant horror director that he was) made this first Scream employing a laser sharp focus when it came to tiny little details. And I do believe that he lays out more than enough clues for keen observers to uncover the truth, if they ever felt so inclined to investigate.
Fortunately, I've done all of the work for you so you don't have to. So despite their identities being hidden by the ghostface mask, we can now know (at least to my findings) in which scenes the killer was Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) and Stu Macher (Matthew Lillard), who are undeniably the best Ghostface killer duo.
If you have your own evidence you would like to provide that either corroborates, or negates my findings, I am more than happy to have you comment them down below. And yes, I am fully aware that Kevin Williamson said himself that Stu was the one who killed Casey. However, while Kevin did write the story, the movie was Wes Craven's vision. And since there was no indication in the script which one committed that particular murder, that scenario only exists in his heart of hearts. Sorry Kevin.
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@yuribaribeau4131 3 жыл бұрын

why does this feel like dead meat you order from wish

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha wow 😂

@yuribaribeau4131 3 жыл бұрын

@@ZackCherry im just pocking fun at you. the video was interesting :P

@anthony_herrera_1 3 жыл бұрын

Lmfaooooooo they’re both good bro, one is kill counts and info, the other is just straight up crazy info!

@Scoobynaturalzilla1989 3 жыл бұрын

Zack Cherry Do you think Billy planned on killing Tatum in the garage door or that was a last resort

@LetsPlayWalkers 3 жыл бұрын

@@Scoobynaturalzilla1989 probably just thinking on his toes

@damedelamour 3 жыл бұрын

Whenever ghostface was doofy or clumsy, I knew it was Stu lol

@jamesedleymusic 3 жыл бұрын

Billy was a lot more calculated as Ghostface. Not as fast or frantic.

@chrisjeter9410 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, doofy! I see what you did there #deputydoofy

@nunka34ify 3 жыл бұрын

What about Tatums attack? That had to be Billy lol

@jamesedleymusic 3 жыл бұрын

@@nunka34ify Whenever Ghostface is really sadistic, it’s Billy.

@Tommyfinnit242 3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@JizzyF83 3 жыл бұрын

That opening scene was definitely a two man job. I refuse to believe Billy did it all by himself

@shawnmotley1898 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. Billy is only human and can't be in two places at once. He is not Freddy.

@jacobdesio 3 жыл бұрын

Jamie Fitz because of scream 3 we know Roman was involved. I find it more realistic that is was Roman and Billy that killed Casey so Stu could be with Tatum to have an alibi

@JizzyF83 3 жыл бұрын

still seems kinda weird that Roman was in Woodsboro at the time and didn’t bother killing Sydney then rather than wait for the 3rd film

@brunomacedo2878 3 жыл бұрын

@@JizzyF83 You have a point. Why did Roman wait too long to kill her?

@Stigmatix666 3 жыл бұрын

Forget Roman. He's a retcon from part 3! Of course both Billy and Stu both were present in the opening scene, that was a two - man job

@ItsRosieeJ Жыл бұрын

Stu was so clumsy, now that I’m older I finally understand why Billy stabbed him more than he should’ve at the end 🤣

@marvingonzalez8586 Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure Billy was always gonna kill Stu at the end or at least let him take the fall

@maimaibenitez 11 ай бұрын

That was true I was going to kill stu 11:18

@MathiasEggimann 10 ай бұрын

Billy was also clumsy when he had the costume on That's like a Ghostface trademark. They are still humans, no one is a übermensch with or without the mask just a real person. Put up a fight, fall all over the place and kill someone

@YahhGirlJazz 6 ай бұрын

@@MathiasEggimannno Stu was the clumsy one

@slimexxot Жыл бұрын

What I love the most about Billy and Stu is something I don't see talked about all that much, but I just love how close these two were to each other before the reveal. All of the other killer pairings feel so disconnected from one another personally, at the very least before their reveal where the two killers hardly have any on screen interaction or hardly any indication that they're friends at all. In the original it's so believable that these two are just close friends who decide to go on a killing spree to fuel their own psychotic pleasure, while the other killer pairs just felt like the writers just said "Uh, you and you are gonna be the killers! Sure, why not."

@elicxc 8 ай бұрын

Amber & Richie?

@williamswain2303 6 ай бұрын

I think they should've just kept the murdering teens as their pull after the first one scream seems kinda pointless, same with texas chainsaw series

@williamswain2303 6 ай бұрын

@@elicxceh I mean in comparison not as cool I mean scream one was an unprecedented movie like 2 killers then you figure out they are teens killing their friends just because really can't top that

@slimexxot 6 ай бұрын

@@elicxc Amber and Richie’s only sole interaction before their reveals was Amber making fun of Richie for him motive. There was zero indication of the two having even the slightest bit of friendship/relationship before their reveal, not to dissimilar to other ghostface duos like Mickey and Mrs Loomis, or Jill and Charlie. I’ll give them credit for after their reveal, since they seem like the only ghostface duo that was mostly loyal to one another, but that’s my point. That’s only after the reveal. Amber could’ve easily been switched out for someone else like Liv, and nothing would’ve changed.

@connordougherty9860 2 ай бұрын

Liv and Amber as Ghostface now that would’ve been an interesting plot and hasn’t been done before.

@gabrielegranzotto4307 3 жыл бұрын

Can't believe shaggy would be so evil

@InfernitBlu88 3 жыл бұрын

He only shown 1% of his true power

@gabrielegranzotto4307 3 жыл бұрын

@@InfernitBlu88 we need gohan blanco

@Acedegenerate07 3 жыл бұрын

@@InfernitBlu88 no lower

@jaybaines9371 3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@fynnthefox9078 3 жыл бұрын

Solving those mysteries must've messed him up.

@markmartin8211 3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with the theory that Billy killed Tatum. A lot of people think it was Stu, but Billy's eye gesture to Stu was always a dead give away.

@CalobAdamsInfamous913 2 жыл бұрын

And the mere fact that Stu was with the other students watching a movie

@jennyrrrrgg 2 жыл бұрын

To me that look could just as easily be "Nice kill, dude!". Why I think it's Stu? 1) He wanted his ex dead, so fits his pattern 2) GF in the garage was teasing and being silly 3) Everyone was preoccupied with Gale's arrival, and the kill lasted a shorter time than the song playing at the party. 4) He took a beer bottle to the crotch; when Billy flicks at Stu's groin upon arriving to the party, Stu whinces in pain.

@thepubknight6144 2 жыл бұрын

@@jennyrrrrgg yup Stu also killed and disemboweled Steve

@jennyrrrrgg 2 жыл бұрын

@@thepubknight6144 Also, Randy was always right and he yelled that he thought Stu killed Tatum, at the door when Sidney locks them out.

@GregMuniz7 2 жыл бұрын

@@jennyrrrrgg it’s clearly billy who killed Tatum. Stu would’ve had to change super quick into the outfit and then change back and it makes sense that billy did it and showed up at the front door after

@nimloc1670 2 жыл бұрын

The attention to detail of even remembering the character's body language and keep it consistent throughout the movie is another reason why this movie is so iconic.

@ILoveallthegirls1 2 жыл бұрын

I love the dynamic between Billy and Stu, Billy has a plan (which we later learn is retconned to be Romans plan) and Stu is literally only going along for the ride. I don't think Stu really would have sought out revenge for being dumped, it was suggested and he liked the idea so went with it. It's like later on in the finale act when Sydney gets the jump on the pair. Billy is acting out desperately because he's seeing his plan fall apart, a plan that has true meaning to him, whereas Stu acts out desperately because he's finally scared that this plan of his best friends isn't going to work and like he says "My mom and dad are gonna be so mad at me!"

@dyinbreed4800 2 жыл бұрын

Bro it wasn’t Roman’s plan, it was his Roman just had the plan to kill her mama they just got kill hungry

@berserkworkentertainment Жыл бұрын

@@dyinbreed4800 literally, people need to remember this

@stephanielorraine1898 Жыл бұрын

@@dyinbreed4800 he Told Billy how to kill maureen and accused cotton and to have a complice

@williamswain2303 6 ай бұрын

Naw bruh stu was the one with the plan he wanted to finish that shit like intended

@kevinc8559 3 жыл бұрын

“I’ve seen this movie ‘20 goddamn times’!” Nice Drew Barrymore reference from the beginning of Scream.

@wereallnice3774 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. How'd you find out

@thesupervisor3270 3 жыл бұрын

No shit!

@PTRK490 3 жыл бұрын

All i can say is: nothing beats the original scream and original killers. Billy and Stu are masterminds and true psychos. Even tho Jill is also crazy af.

@totterdell Жыл бұрын

Jills good but Billy and Stu are top tier

@yakno3493 Жыл бұрын

Roman was the mastermind

@diegstroX8032 Жыл бұрын

@@yakno3493 Iffy retcon. Even so, Roman arguably initially only motivated Billy to kill Maureen. The events of the first Scream were still all Billy and Stu. I know, you could say that all this would have never happened without Roman. But then again, the same can be said about John Milton. Regardless, I don’t think this retcon did the original film any favors

@diegstroX8032 Жыл бұрын

Billy & Stu will always be in their own league. They are the OG’s and iconic for all the right reasons. But as unpopular as this opinion may be (such takes always are for some when it comes to giving credit to recent installments), I think in terms of brutality and overall sinister vibe, the latest GHOSTFACE is definitely up there. Amber & Richie perhaps don’t compare to Billy & Stu in terms of characterization (actually, I feel Amber rivals Stu), but they definitely defined the term psycho - especially Amber. Now Scream 6’s killer is looking even more vicious and *different*

@pzychosaiyan_productions Жыл бұрын

Billy is the best Stu is the craziest Mickey is strongest Mrs. Loomis is the most relatable Roman is the smartest Jill is everyone's favorite Charlie is most forgettable Richie is the stupidest Amber is the most hated

@seanmcclure 2 жыл бұрын

This movie was a masterpiece. Yeah it had faults but what it did for the horror genre can never be overstated.

@heavnxbound Жыл бұрын

It’s like Fast & Furious; the movies are not perfect, but they had kind of a revolutionary impact on the film industry as a whole and car culture, as with Scream and the slasher genre.

@omariyon Жыл бұрын

@@heavnxbound stop

@Aaliyahchannel2024 Жыл бұрын

Fast and furious what? Don't even mention that trash in the same sentence as Scream.

@doomsday24 Жыл бұрын

@@omariyon Well said lol. That was a bad comparison wtf

@heavnxbound Жыл бұрын

@@Aaliyahchannel2024 How is it trash?

@Domino666ism 2 жыл бұрын

If you note the mannerisms in that opening scene I believe they both took turns on the phone. Because like you said, Billy has a more suave and menacing voice whereas Stu's voice retains that excited glee. I always hear Stu after Casey is threatened and you hear that raspy laugh and then "Can you handle that Blondie???"

@Supermanwithatan01 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Wes Craven actually had Skeet Ulrich use 1 hand on the knife, and Matthew Lillard use 2 hands on the knife to differentiate kills for the audience.

@hannonbaggin1649 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know that! Looks like ima go back and watch

@jp3813 2 жыл бұрын

That's covered in the video.

@Ep1cTV 2 жыл бұрын

Not true. The ghostfaces were played by stuntmen almost entirely until they're unmasked. That's how all of Scream's ghostfaces are filmed. The actors themselves have even mentioned this.

@BrokenGodEnt 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ep1cTV I think they just meant the representation of whichever actor is supposed to be in the costume. The guy in the video said it better than the comment tbh lol.

@Ep1cTV 2 жыл бұрын

@@BrokenGodEnt I’ve never seen or heard anything about it actually being true though. Even in a Q&A last year, one of the stuntmen makes no mention of being directed to do anything specific for his ghostface. And we’re talking the opening sequence with Casey. So pivotal moments in the film. Even skeet has said he was never directed to hold or do anything specific to his ghostfaces movements once he’s been revealed as the killer.

@blip3337 3 жыл бұрын

They should remake the first scream all from billy and stu’s perspective

@kalenwick7628 3 жыл бұрын

oh that would be so good & sinister

@justinbieberkocham13 3 жыл бұрын

Omg, that's actually great idea! I'd love to see that :o

@MalumTheManiacGaming 2 жыл бұрын

i would pay to see it!

@LayrtizParkProductions 2 жыл бұрын

I wrote a short film called Ghostface which is a prequel to the first Scream! Will come out in October and I think ya‘ll will enjoy it!! Edit: HERE IT IS!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rtxdnqWGt92lg2g.html

@blip3337 2 жыл бұрын

@@LayrtizParkProductions awesome!

@hungryinsect302 2 жыл бұрын

Billy does a great job calculating and plotting his kills, but fails to not look like a psychopath 🙂👍

@mariusceausu4733 2 жыл бұрын

Irony

@jackkrauss 9 ай бұрын

Well, doesn't that make this more realistic and creepier.

@syndicalistcat3138 5 ай бұрын

@@jackkrauss NO

@kevinscravings2116 2 жыл бұрын

As a huge Scream fan who missed so much of these minor details, I am soooo intrigued. Thank you for this. Especially the sound that Stu made in the closet at Sidney’s house that decided to ignore. Also, when he chased her up the stairs and said, “easy, easy”. My mind was BLOWN 🤯

@michaeltrapson 3 жыл бұрын

🎵 Stu-bie Stu-bie Doo Where are you 🎵

@birdie394 3 жыл бұрын

for a second i was really confused like how would a verified channel not get acknowledged by now lmao

@user-jn1wm3tb8v 3 жыл бұрын

@@birdie394 On the Leprechaun kill count Dead Meat commented saying "SLOW DOWN" only me and a few others found the comment. This gives the same feeling.

@mioriduh3300 3 жыл бұрын

omggg i used to watch your videos a lot

@stayhomewearamask3318 3 жыл бұрын

Stu-bie Stu-bie doo were coming after you

@Xehanort10 3 жыл бұрын

"Like zoinks Fred. I'm gonna kill you now."

@GuessWho7197 3 жыл бұрын

Personally, I had always assumed that the Ghostface in the supermarket was another prankster

@bruswein1866 3 жыл бұрын

@ramandeep saini Same.

@Bawitdabadabangdadang 3 жыл бұрын

@ramandeep saini Nope.

@Bawitdabadabangdadang 3 жыл бұрын

@ramandeep saini Nope.

@23louuu 3 жыл бұрын

ramandeep saini that’s pretty interesting hmm

@jamesedleymusic 3 жыл бұрын

You’d think someone would notice him.

@aidanhuff5611 2 жыл бұрын

I think overall some of the kills were a ploy by Billy to distract the police from looking at just Sidney's murder, so it wouldn't be as obvious that she was the main target. Also by killing Casey, Billy puts more suspicion on Stu. Billy would also probably play the part of the distressed lover, after Sidney would have been killed, making him seem more innocent. It's also interesting to point out that Billy comes to Sidney right after he strangles and murders Casey, possibly signifying that the act gave him some sort of sexual pleasure. This is also supported by the fact that Maureen Prescott was raped before she was killed. In my eyes Billy probably raped her and Stu just helped kill her but I'm not certain. Billy also seduces Sidney right before they enact their final plan to kill her, so ,to me, there's a connection. This movie has a lot of great subtexts and layers that can be interpreted in different ways based on real profiles of serial killers. It's really fascinating.

@Tyreece190 2 жыл бұрын

Stu murders casey not billy. Casey was his ex

@GLENNACHEEMS 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a bit conflicted over this interpretation. Yes, killing Casey would, if put between Billy or Stu, Stu would obviously have more motive, so I'd agree that Billy's trying to cover his bases. However the idea that Billy gets some sort of sexual gratification from killing isn't evident. I always assumed Billy visited Sidney prior to the murder of Casey, so that he and Stu could steal her father's phone. Billy kills other girls and does not rape them or masturbate. Plus, earlier in the movie the police stated that Sidney's mom was having an affair with Cotton (can't quite remember the name), and they'd had sex the night she was killed but that Cotton was drunk, and he may in fact have raped her. It's possible that Billy or Stu raped her, but I think a court might have just ruled that with how mangled her body was along with seminal fluids/signs of sexual acts, that Cotton raped and killed her. I don't personally believe either of the boys raped her. I think that him badgering Sidney about sex all the time is that he was disgusted with how her mother's promiscuity 'ruined' his life, and he wants her to become the same way to at least a small degree so he can justify the murder even more. Not to mention the whole 'don't have sex in a horror film' monologue that Randy gave, paired with Billy and Stu's motto of 'life's a movie, you just don't get to pick your genre... I don't know. I'm not apologizing for anything that Billy or Stu did, but this was how I understood events. I could be wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@ameennasar2583 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tyreece190 Stu killed Steve, the murderer of Casey is Billy. The killing style says it alone

@Tyreece190 2 жыл бұрын

@@ameennasar2583 nope stu kills Casey billy was doing the phone calls

@ameennasar2583 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tyreece190 Billy did the phone call. At this time, Stu killed Steve and break into the house. The very same time, Billy too entered the house. Wes have differentiated Billy and Stu's stabbing style. Billy strangles his victim at first and then go for a straight stab. But Stu is a slice and dice killer.

@tommylol2008 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly even though Stu is goofy he’s honestly a terrifying ghostface

@Def.Not.Scarlett. 3 ай бұрын

I think thats what makes him even MORE scary after the reveal. The first time I watched it I sort of expected that Billy was the killer because of his voice(sounded a lot like the voice changer) but Stu? I didn’t think that the lanky goofball would be capable of killing anyone.

@nunka34ify 3 жыл бұрын

My theory is that the Ghostface in the grocery store was another prankster just like in the bathroom scene. I can't picture either of them taking the kind of risk in broad daylight. And as we saw earlier there were several students joking around wearing the Ghostface costume. Definitely a prankster

@Mr.McLeach2024 2 жыл бұрын

And for ppl reading this Plz don’t say it’s Roman cause the writers haven’t thought him up into the script yet

@andrewpatterson4976 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree. Stu was too busy party-planning, Billy was likely putting the finishing touches on his plan. And while they are attention-seekers, all of their murders display very careful planning. If they were going to scare Sidney again before killing her and her Dad, they'd have tried to isolate her in a private area. The ones we see in the bathroom, Tatum's house and the grocery store I assume are all pranksters.

@harryjones6594 2 жыл бұрын

That actually makes more sense than it being Billy, Stu or Roman since none of them were that stupid.

@harryjones6594 2 жыл бұрын

@MetaVerse Man maybe they lost their nerve at the last minute? The ones who tried this at school got into major trouble (I think they were expelled) and it might have just dawned on them they could get into trouble with the police.

@maloperverso8118 2 жыл бұрын

Word Hommie!

@seminole4life22 3 жыл бұрын

The first Scream is without a doubt my favorite movie ever, and you pointed out so many things I've never noticed. Makes me appreciate the movie even more with how many intricate details Wes put in it. Great video fam.

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊 I definitely feel the same way about that you do. Such a great appreciation for Wes Craven and this movie.

@walkerbolton2076 3 жыл бұрын

Cool. Not my favorite movie ever but the first horror movie I ever saw

@infinitywar509 3 жыл бұрын

Zack cherry can you please do who killed who for I know what you did last summer.

@AB-hg4hg 3 жыл бұрын

Let’s not forget the writer; Kevin Williamson. He put a lot of these details into the script too.

@tremorsfan 3 жыл бұрын

I watched this movie in middle school and none of my classmates could understand why I thought that it was so funny.

@craigjones1946 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never seen anyone point this out but I love the fact that the motive Billy & Stu came up with for Sidney’s father while planning to frame him for the murders is straight out of an 80s slasher lol. Very similar to Roy’s motive from Friday the 13th Part 5 for example. It emphasizes the point that they both were heavily desensitized to violence and movie/media obsessed and drew inspiration from the many horror films they’ve seen. “What if your father snapped your mothers anniversary set him off and he went on a murder spree killing everyone”

@saram5964 2 жыл бұрын

the movie also makes fun of some 80’s horror movie stereotypes, so it could also be because of that

@veloc.raptor9136 Жыл бұрын

God the writing in this film was genius. Every scene, act and line was masterfully produced

@veloc.raptor9136 Жыл бұрын

Also the reason why Stu doesnt kill Sidney (or stab her more specifically) when he has the chance at 6:50 is because he had a thing for her so he was probably considering.... the R word

@justapeachybabe1216 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know if anyone else caught this, I didn’t catch it until I had watched Scream with subtitles, but as Randy and Stu run up to the house trying to convince Syd that they’re not the killer, you can catch Stu sayin that Randy had “Killed Billy, he killed my Tatumn.” Stu shouldn’t know about Billy being “dead” because it’s not mentioned beforehand (Randy doesn’t mention anything about Billy and if Billy truly was helping Stu with everything then he wouldn’t have been upstairs for Randy to accidentally stumble across.) Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

@kidu5537 2 жыл бұрын

That's true, and one more thing, correct me if im wrong, but as far as i remmeber Stu was asking Sidney to give him the gun, while Randy wasn't, that kind of gave Stu away

@remyuk 2 жыл бұрын

i've also found it curious that stu goes to get more beer, presumably from the garage, and yet there wasn't a single mention of tatum being dead nor her body hanging from the cat door. i went into scream already knowing who the killers were, because i'd only just watched it recently and billy licking the fake blood off his fingers is a pretty well known scene, so maybe i was just over analyzing things, but i found that peculiar.

@baileyrynston492 2 жыл бұрын

@@remyuk wait now that i think about it that would have been a dead giveaway how did i not notice it

@Robalexe 2 жыл бұрын

@@remyuk Holy shit, how did I not realize that? If Stu was innocent, he would've told everyone Tatum was dead when he went to get more beers. Honestly, Stu actually gave quite a lot of what-should-be dead giveaways but we barely took notice of them on first watch and only caught them after already knowing he's the killer.

@sheffrudytke1086 2 жыл бұрын

@@Robalexe the killer comes back to life for one last scare. Billy did but stu didn't

@pnutgamer201 3 жыл бұрын

I knew I wasn’t the only one who noticed the killers different mannerisms.

@davidgreen2466 Жыл бұрын

My theory is the first attack on Sidney was to kill her but Billy and Stu realized they had lost control of the situation, and with the police showing up they pulled the bait and switch tactic out of necessity at the last minute to throw everyone off. However, Sidney was then put under supervision which is why they then killed the principal. The party was used to lure Sidney out but the principal's death I think was used for keeping the police busy more than deterring the other party guests. Bc at that point in the story Tatum seemed to be the only other intentional kill since she would've stayed behind with Sid no matter what. Dewey, Gale, Kenny, and Randy all jus happened to be the remaining few coincidentally.

@GameZedd01 9 ай бұрын

7:30 my theory for that attack is they planned for Billy to show up and get apprehended and be locked in jail so Stu can do another attack later and clear Billy as a suspect because he has a rock solid alibi of being locked in a jail cell surrounded by cops. Pretty smart if thats the case.

@markrobinson9394 3 жыл бұрын

Finally, someone points out the logical reasoning behind Billy being Casey's killer. I've been saying the same thing for years, and yet all I hear back is, "Casey recognised her killer, so it had to be Stu." No shit she recognised him. Billy was Stu's best friend. Of course she knew who he was. More importantly, she'd be more surprised that it was Billy rather than Stu, given Stu's motive to hate her. These same people always ignore the subtle nuances of the choking and the way the killer holds the knife. Wes Craven highlighted these things in the movie for a specific reason. It wasn't by accident.

@darrendyer1028 2 жыл бұрын

Yep 100% agree

@joyastomato237 Жыл бұрын

Didn’t the writer confirm it was Stu? I’ve read that a couple of times

@markrobinson9394 Жыл бұрын

@@joyastomato237 The writer is not the director. Once the script is sold, the writer has very little influence on what actually happens with the filming and editing process, unless a creative deal is struck where they are to be heavily involved (e.g. J.K. Rowling). The director uses the script as a guide, but it’s really up to them what direction they take the movie in. If they want to change the ending or have a different interpretation of a character, there’s really not a lot the writer can do about it.

@joyastomato237 Жыл бұрын

@@markrobinson9394 I 100% agree that is true, but why would that instantly invalidate the writer’s claim? It’s not like the director or anyone else said otherwise, it’s just imo, the “reveal” to Casey would be wayyyyy less impactful if it was just Billy. Think about it, Stu does NOT have the wit to be able to handle the phone calls. He’s the minion/sidekick who does the physical work for Billy most of the time. Plus Casey dumping Stu would be a good motive for Stu to begin his part in the killings to begin with.

@markrobinson9394 Жыл бұрын

@@joyastomato237 Less impactful, yes, but its the only thing that makes sense from a direction standpoint. Why firmly establish Billy as the killer who holds the knife in that way if you're going to have a scene of Stu in the mask that contradicts that? We even saw the same knife handling from Billy's daughter Sam in the latest movie. It's supposed to be in the DNA.

@SasquatchTrackers 3 жыл бұрын

You can tell Stu called Sid while Billy was in jail because he’s being a little more comical and goofy than Billy, who is more dark. Also Billy hits Stu in the nuts at the party when he shows up for payback, because Tatum hit him in the nuts with a beer bottle. So you know it was him. I’m wondering if the opening scene occurred after Billy visited Sidney though. Since the calls came from Neils phone, wouldn’t they have had to kidnapped him before Casey’s house?

@LastDebt555 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was Stu definitely. I feel like scream 1 might have the hardest “who killed who plot” cuz like it’s very understandable if Stu was the one who killed Casey and Steve cuz he was angry he got dumped. The way Casey died, to me that looks 97% billy. The fact he stabbed her in the shoulder, crushed larynx and then stabbed her to death. Like billy is a aggressive ass killer, like there’s no way that could have been Stu since he’s not that aggressive as billy.

@shiestyrecords3225 2 жыл бұрын

@@LastDebt555 tbh... in my opinion.... stu just wanted to have fun.... Billy gave him the idea

@josecalderon9487 2 жыл бұрын

@@LastDebt555 Stu wasn't angry he said they only dated for 2 seconds and it's anybody's guess who dumped who. Tatum confirmed that Stu was with her that night so that leaves Billy as the one who did Casey and Steve. Billy also killed the Principal, Tatum, and shot Randy. Billy was the darker character and by far the more vicious and vengeful of the 2. Look at how berserk he went on Stu for stabbing him in the wrong spot. Stu had to plead with Billy to stop it already.

@jugularmusic 2 жыл бұрын

@@josecalderon9487 Stu was absolutely angry. One of the best parts of Matthew and Jamie were, to me, their totally accurate representation of high school student's way of speaking. Stu was definitely UNDER exaggerating as he was trying to make the relationship seem as small possible. He was absolutely pissed that he got dumped and was lying about it.

@ashleyaustin8532 2 жыл бұрын

@Eli Fossett - I thought Billy hit Stu when he appeared at the party, because he wasn't being subtle when he said, "talk or whatever". Your theory never occurred to me. Very interesting!

@CalobAdamsInfamous913 2 жыл бұрын

This breakdown is amazing. And seeing the move serval times I never noticed the small nuances in the way each killer held the knife. It made sense to have Stu be more clumsy and goofy because of his personality and have Billy be more calculated and cold. Also I never noticed Stu checking the mirror for bruises, I just thought it was a goofy thing he was doing. And I always thought that this is one of the best slasher films ever because of the detail in the film and the plot twist of two killers. Wes Craven is truly a masterful horror director

@sepultura7771 2 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure hes just checking the mirror because Tatum just beat him in the forehead with a lollipop If he was checking because of Sidney , he would’ve had plenty of time before coming to school to do it

@ameennasar2583 2 жыл бұрын

@@sepultura7771 When Tatum hit with the lollipop, do you think it really hurt that much. He felt the pain because of the attacks he got on his head because of his victims

@viktormonov9397 2 жыл бұрын

I love how they are real friends, they never killed their own gfs, instead they swapped them, what a friendship ;)

@kylebroflovski8656 2 ай бұрын

Bros before hoes 😂

@rayshardrobinson7878 3 жыл бұрын

Stu telling billy that randy saw him without his mask on, makes so much sense on why Billy shot randy when he revealed himself as the killer

@gregory7567 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it was more of a fuck you kinda thing lmao

@alimansouri4199 2 жыл бұрын

when did stu tell billy

@UtterlyHooves 2 жыл бұрын

@@alimansouri4199 around the side of the house, not on film

@aaronuzcategui287 2 жыл бұрын

@@alimansouri4199 Offscreen

@lovelife52 Жыл бұрын

@@UtterlyHooves why was it cut!?

@rottenrat2238 3 жыл бұрын

omg its amazing! i completely agree with your theory! i didn't notice the Stu looking himself in the mirror thing!

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

Right? The brilliance of Wes Craven. He probably started shooting the scene and thought: Matthew, why don't you just play with this mirror? Nobody will ever think anything of it.

@jefferybrooks3544 3 жыл бұрын

Wait where was the mirror scene?

@ryanjeffrey3293 3 жыл бұрын

@@jefferybrooks3544 when Sidney, Tatum and Stu were talking at the lockers before getting pranked in the hallway.

@jefferybrooks3544 3 жыл бұрын

@@ryanjeffrey3293 thanks! I do remember that scene. Looking for the bruise. For some reason I was thinking he looked at himself in the mirror in the costume.

@williamsummerson1204 3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree

@RecluseBootsy 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like Rodger L. Jackson has a lengthy phone call with the actors playing the killer. He has a way of replicating their phonetic mannerisms perfectly. A true master of his craft.

@jackkrauss 9 ай бұрын

I think he said he wasn't given that opportunity in the last film or films. It probably has to do with Wes's brillance.

@IAmWBeard 2 жыл бұрын

I don't hear him saying EASY when running up the steps, i just hear grunting but it does sound like Stu

@fans-ed1td 2 жыл бұрын

Same

@oddball1493 3 жыл бұрын

they were both un the opening scene because remember when ghostface asked her to pick an exit? well both were covered because one was at each exit. she was screwed either way.

@josecalderon9487 2 жыл бұрын

There was only 1 killer and that was Billy. He told Casey there are 2 main doors to the house (which was the front door and the patio door), one of which she was next to. That was the patio where Steve got killed. Billy was outside the patio door because he threw a chair through the patio doors' large windows before she could guess, so she ran down the hallway to the kitchen and right before she snuck out through the kitchen's side door that Billy didn't know about, she sees him down the hallway running across the rooms. If Stu was there he would be at the main door waiting and she would've been cornered, but he wasn't there cause he was at Tatum's house and she confirmed this to Randy.

@toriackley8402 Жыл бұрын

@@josecalderon9487 they both were there billy couldn’t of hung Casey’s body by himself so Stu and billy were both there

@sawftkid 3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure Stu did like only one phone call and that was when he tried to prove Billy was innocent.

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! That version of the caller also seemed to be more taunting than calculated.

@mr3pointshooter1 2 жыл бұрын

I honestly believe it was Stu on the phone talking to Casey Becker. Pay close attention to the questions he was asking her. He asked her did she have a bf knowing she did then proceeds as if he’s interested in asking her out to reveal if she’s a cheater or not to find out if she cheated on him with Steve. He also already knew all the facts on her favorite scary movies so he use tactics to scheme her into getting all the questions wrong.

@veloc.raptor9136 Жыл бұрын

I think you missed the part where she hung up on ghostface 3 times in a row. nobody said it was the same person each time.

@mr3pointshooter1 3 ай бұрын

It was clearly the same person each time

@sumeetdhoat6747 Жыл бұрын

This is what happened. Caseys chase was so chaotic that it was a matter of who got to her first. Stu got knocked out by the phone so Billy had to go get her. Stabbing and strangling is Billys MO so Billy stabbed, strangled, and wounded Casey. He could've finished her off but he didn't because she was meant for Stu. After wounding her Billy brought her to Stu where Stu finished her off by gutting (his MO) her. So yes Stu did kill Casey but not in a way that we all thought he did. As for recognizong the killer. She was shocked that it was a classmate and her ex's bestfriend. By then she figured out there were two killers so she knew Stu was involved. Another detail. When Billy decided to strangle her, he was strangling her till she passes out where he can bring her to Stu so he can kill her. When she was being dragged she you can see she mainly got stabbed on the sides. Meaning that Billy wounded her, brought her to Stu, and Stu delivered the fatal blow.

@williamswain2303 6 ай бұрын

I like that except I enjoy the idea of stu being the man with the plan

@nunka34ify 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you cleared up Casey's death, Tatum's death, and Dewey's attack. Those Ghostface scenes have been debated for decades lol

@LastDebt555 2 жыл бұрын

Ong lmao, Zach cherry is a very intelligent young man. Glad he posted this video, cuz now people won’t debate on it anymore lmaoo.

@thefreakyrobber0 2 жыл бұрын

How can anybody with common sense not know who killed Tatum???

@LastDebt555 2 жыл бұрын

The Freaky Robber ikr, people who said it was Stu is just honestly retarded.

@randomguyontheinternet8345 2 жыл бұрын

He’s actually wrong through as cleared by Wes craven. He did have a good theory. But it’s billy who was in the back who killed her boyfriend and it’s Stu that kills drew. Billy was in the back the entire time on the phone. Stu wasn’t on the phone that much as ghost face.

@BLACKSPlNK 2 жыл бұрын

well. this isn’t really clearing anything up. it’s a fan creating theories based on what they’ve analyzed

@FoxHollow928 3 жыл бұрын

Also, when Billy gets "stabbed" in the bedroom, there are no rips in his shirt or anything. But Sid would be too panicked to actually notice that. These are my favorite movies, so this was a good video to find.

@Stigmatix666 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's obvious in hindsight

@nunka34ify 3 жыл бұрын

My friend noticed that when she first saw the movie and immediately suspected Billy of being involved

@Stigmatix666 3 жыл бұрын

@@nunka34ify Billy was always an obvious suspect. The thing that threw us off-guard was the fact that there was two killers, this was actually innovative in 1996. Now two killers in cahoots is a bona fide cliche in this franchise.. A single killer would be a good thing for the next movie.

@Stigmatix666 3 жыл бұрын

@Danielle Lou Yes, both Billy and Stu clearly had "killer" tattooed across their foreheads. Randy was an obvious red herring. But still, like I said, the fact that there were two killers was virtually unheard of in '96, so that twist threw us completely off-guard. They were both clear suspects, though.

@themadclown4077 3 жыл бұрын

@@Stigmatix666 or a cult would also be unexpecting but maybe a bit to much. I already think the killer is Billy's possible son.

@Terminatorfan-2016 2 жыл бұрын

First off I dig the freaking analyzations. Bravo seriously. However, Scream just became that much more scary when you explained how Billy and Stu did their planning. Especially when you talked about how they already got into Sidney's house before she came home from school and how Stu was probably hiding in her closet. Very scary but very awesome.

@kylemcdonald3694 Жыл бұрын

To be quite honest, I always wondered how either Billy or Stu ended up in her closet? My guess is that they hid in their when she was tricked into walking outside into her porch to “investigate a strange noise”.

@mattcalloway6254 2 жыл бұрын

What is so good about Billy & Stu both being Ghostface is that it explains why Ghostface kept seeming to get up quickly after being knocked out or suffering an injury that would slow them down.

@veloc.raptor9136 Жыл бұрын

or how he was both hectic (Stu) and calculating (Billy). Ghostface was scary because he was unpredictable. He was unpredictable because he was two different people working together

@jaylouis8227 3 жыл бұрын

This was pretty good. I never noticed Stu looking at himself in the mirror. I knew for sure that. Stu was one of the killers because he never once questioned where Tatum was after she was killed at his party and she was supposed to be his girl.

@josecalderon9487 2 жыл бұрын

As the guests were leaving to go see their principal hanging on the football goal post, Stu said to others that he thinks Casey bailed on him.

@bradgong3357 2 жыл бұрын

Stu killed Casey. That’s clear by the fact that it was his Ex. And at the fountain, Billy covered for Stu he didn’t look at him matter of factly; he looked at him as if Stu shouldn’t have said anything especially not that. Stu says “I didn’t kill anybody.” Then Billy says “Nobody said you did.” In which Stu replies with “Thanks, buddy.” Then when discussing the gutting of a human being, Stu darkly volunteered information, “You take a knife, and you slit ‘em from groin to sternum.” In which again, Billy checks him. “Hey, it’s called tact, you fuckrag.” Billy didn’t kill Casey. Stu did and it’s evident by that. You completely read people incorrectly.

@bradgong3357 2 жыл бұрын

@@josecalderon9487 Casey was the first to die. You mean Tatum.

@jaylouis8227 2 жыл бұрын

@@bradgong3357 Thank you for your dissertation. It really went a long way toward showing me how stupid I really am.

@josecalderon9487 2 жыл бұрын

@@bradgong3357 Tatum said Stu was with her that night so it was Billy.

@DomingoRiveraJr 3 жыл бұрын

I also heard that Skeet Ulrich improvised, and told Wes after he'd done, the look at the door when he began the conversation with Sidney right before they slept together. He gave the door a hard look before he sat on the bed cuz that was where Stu would be coming in from.

@randomguyontheinternet8345 2 жыл бұрын

That’s because the plan was for billy to have sex with cid. And Stu would come and kill her making it look like billy survived the attack.

@clarencegutsy7309 2 жыл бұрын

I also think Billy did all the calls considering his character is a big homage to both Black Christmas and Halloween. Makes obscene calls like the Billy in Black Christmas, shows a fixation with strangling victims before stabbing them to death like Myers in Halloween.

@nailsarelife 2 жыл бұрын

It's funny. After watching each movie in the series the first time, on subsequent viewings, my family (mainly one of my sisters) and I would try to figure out who killed/attacked who. If my memory serves me correctly, we did settle on basically what you described in this video. We did think Stu may have been the one in the bathroom because there's no real sense of time, but thinking back, it is most likely to be a prankster for the same reasons you mentioned.

@AJeazy 3 жыл бұрын

Im very impressed by the amount of detail they put into this movie. That Stu checking himself for bruises thing... I never knew.

@deadschooled 2 жыл бұрын

Just cause this guy said it doesn’t mean that it’s true……. Jeezus

@s_s3191 2 жыл бұрын

@@deadschooled what is the true?

@atvena 2 жыл бұрын

Could just be Stu playing around with Tatum's mirror although in saying that why include it in the film

@thejew1789 3 жыл бұрын

Wow I never thought about Stu being there when Billy came to visit Sidney through the window.

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense tho, right?

@thejew1789 3 жыл бұрын

@@ZackCherry Yeah it does. Great video.

@Facelessman254 3 жыл бұрын

I never thought of Stu Hiding in sids closet when she came.home from school but this makes so much sense! Especially when you hear the suspense music noise for a split second when she opens it and when she hears a creek noise coming from there! How I never clocked on to that I don't know!

@bleeneo101 3 жыл бұрын

Billy killed Casey. Just Billy

@heathermarie3672 3 жыл бұрын

@@Facelessman254 I didn’t ever think about that, either. I assumed whoever it was snuck in through a window or something while she was sleeping. Not camped out for a few hours.

@Daniel-cy1qs 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with all of these except that I think that Tatum’s killer was definitely Stu. When she goes into the garage, the door is locked behind her from inside the house. The only way it could have been Billy is if he was already hiding in the garage. We don’t get a good view of the layout, but from what we do see, it’s pretty small; there doesn’t seem to be anywhere Billy could have hid without being obvious. But what really seals the deal for me that it was Stu is that, after Tatum is killed by the garage door, ghostface exits back through the house. First, it wouldn’t make sense for Billy to do this. He’s not supposed to be at the party yet. Second, it means the door’s unlocked now, so either Stu was waiting behind the door to unlock it for Billy to let him in the house for some reason even though he shows up at the front door the next scene, or Stu unlocked it so he could go in to kill Tatum. It makes more sense that: Stu hid his costume in a room near the garage, slipped it on real quick, killed her, went back into the house, took off the costume, and went back to the party. All in all, he would only be gone for a few minutes, which is plenty of time to have no one notice he was missing. The knowing look between Stu and Billy could mean anything, it’s not necessarily Billy confirming that Tatum’s dead. It could just be Billy checking in with Stu that everything’s still on track with their plan. Not to mention, the overall clumsiness and sadistic playfulness of ghostface in that scene really feels more like Stu. Anyway, thanks for attending my most self indulgent TED talk

@PacifyKy Жыл бұрын

I agree

@veloc.raptor9136 Жыл бұрын

Tatum's ghostface had a headtilt, was clumsy and played around with his victim. Billy doesnt do that... hes a one and done type of guy. It was Stu, case closed. If it were Billy then Tatum would have been killed immediately like the prinicipal was

@veloc.raptor9136 Жыл бұрын

Just to add. Billy does head tilts too but theyre always psychotic or intimate whilst Stus are more comical (usually with his tongue sticking out). Also Billy would have no reason to taunt Tatum. Unlike Stu, she meant nothing to him

@georgias7299 Жыл бұрын

Also I have a feeling that Stu and Billy would kinda agree both would get to kill their respective girlfriends. Like I can imagine that Stu would have been jealous if Billy got to kill both of them.

@matthewforsyth284 Жыл бұрын

@@veloc.raptor9136 dude seriously it was billy tatum insulted him you do know that right!?

@stephensimington479 Жыл бұрын

You may be right about Stu (the character) being behind Randy alone after the party left, but it was actually the only time Skeet Ulrich (Billy) actually wore the ghost face costume in the movie.

@jorboii 3 жыл бұрын

I remember when a fan asked both Skeet and Matthew “who killed who?” and they just laughed it off and claimed the fan was overthinking it. It’s clear from this video, that Wes directed them to handle their movements with the knife specifically to their character’s traits. It’s sad they didn’t even realise how much thought was put into it...

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

I guess they were holding onto his secrets for him.

@AndreAsunte 3 жыл бұрын

Well it was a stunt guy in the suit,but all of this speaks to the detail stunt performers put into their performances that people often overlook. Good stunts really sell action.

@jorboii 3 жыл бұрын

AndreAsunte While that’s true, Matthew was actually ghostface in the scene with Randy. He puts both his arms up again to stab him just like his character did in Sidney’s house.

@AndreAsunte 3 жыл бұрын

@@jorboii Yes,so did Skeet. They both got to be in that scene. They found out about each other at a convention .It was funny that they both didn't know for so long.

@justinwashington938 3 жыл бұрын

@@jorboii I've never seen that Lillard ever wore the costume (actually, I had seen specifically that he never donned it) It was Ulrich in the scene with Randy

@savannahmedina2467 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate this movie so much more. People say it’s “cheesy” or “corny” but even if you didn’t know the intricate details such as the ones stated in this video, it is still an amazing ICONIC film. Truly amazing how they managed to keep track of the killers and came up with how to plan out their murders. And ya just gotta love Skeet Ulrich and Matthew Lillard !!!🖤🖤🖤

@ashleyaustin8532 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! You pointed out things I never noticed. And your breakdown of who was under the mask killing who, is amazing profiling! The details and nuances in this movie...I don't think people give Wes and the team enough credit!

@elizabethanntarter 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone’s a suspect

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

💯

@forestlol6865 3 жыл бұрын

Idk Sydney looking kinda sus

@KagamineRinVocaloid 3 жыл бұрын

There are 2 imposter among them

@jeangreyluminals4322 3 жыл бұрын

Roaming 0 Ight let’s her vote her out

@zachs8154 3 жыл бұрын

I believe you meant “everybody’s a suspect.”

@s.storumus8620 3 жыл бұрын

I feel that for the Casey kill, the writer intended for it to be Stu, but the Wes directed it to be Billy

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly 💯

@dakotajones674 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I feel like Stu is the one doing most of the killing as you can tell by his runs in the end and how he falls over shit

@seekforrevenge 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been making theories all over the years and I KNOW that for the initiation of their “master plan” and being the 1st time they got to play “ cat & mouse” with one of the targets (Casey Becker) they were both there 🔪

@LA_Vandal562 3 жыл бұрын

@@dakotajones674 But it's not Stu he holds the knife different from Billy lol

@dakotajones674 3 жыл бұрын

Alexander 1996 it may not be Stu in the beginning but throughout the whole movie it’s most definitely stu and I feel like Wes wants you to know that while he chases syd in the finale

@SurvisCallus 2 жыл бұрын

Another thing is Billy lets his victims have a minute or second before killing em, mainly by strangling

@amandafaller9247 2 жыл бұрын

What was always funny about the randy scene was that even though that ghostface was implied to be Stu, it's said that Skeet Ulrich was actually wearing the robe in that scene as a stand in for the ghostface actor.

@Singapore-Aviation72 3 жыл бұрын

I always find it funny when Bill throws the phone at Stu at the end of the movie 😂

@theangelproductions 3 жыл бұрын

"You hit me with the phone DICK"

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

Such a great moment, and completely accidental and then improved by Matthew with the reaction.

@jacobbrinck1365 3 жыл бұрын

Stu- " My mom and dad are gonna be so mad at me!" 😂.

@lionelhutz5137 3 жыл бұрын

I'm feeling a little woozy here!!!

@FiendTheatre 3 жыл бұрын

Lionel Hutz “you get the gun, and I’ll untie pops ok?? NOW” I always wanted an analysis on Billy’s behavior seeing as he was a covert sociopath

@ramontrevi10 3 жыл бұрын

According to a behind the scenes, the only time an actor was in costume was when Ghostface is behind Randy, and it was Skeet Ulrich who asked Craven if he could do it just that time. Of course, every other scene is a stunt double

@jamesedleymusic 3 жыл бұрын

That kinda sucks but I guess it just had to be done.

@07foxmulder 3 жыл бұрын

Neve Campbell when she jumps out of the closet and hits Billy with the umbrella

@k.t.1641 2 жыл бұрын

At a convention Mathew said he also did it because Skeet got to do it. Lol!

@MrJorge006 2 жыл бұрын

How come the stunt double got to do most of the scenes as ghostface? Is it something to do with insurence/legal issues?

@gameroftheyear1000 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJorge006 that’s exactly why. The insurance you would have to take out on the actors to pull off certain stunts would cost a fortune. It’s easier and cheaper to just pay a stuntman to do it. Plus stuntmen/women would be able to do it all in less takes as compared to an untrained actor.

@Xendrius 2 жыл бұрын

Impossible to find this movie scary after watching scary movie.

@filmgeekstudios4393 2 жыл бұрын

It's not really meant to be scary, it's a satire. In fact, they were going to call it 'Scary Movie', but the name had been taken.

@toodlesthebard 2 жыл бұрын

@@filmgeekstudios4393 Thats what he means. Because of the Satire of Scary Movie, the Scream movies aren't as scary. I just did a scream athon with my wife and we were trying to pick out what parts scary movie was making fun of. Like how the stairs in Stu's house GO ON FOREVER!!!!

@drippyog3935 2 жыл бұрын

@Midnight Movie Man nah bruh scream 🗑 like you

@progfrogg Жыл бұрын

@National Sports Entertainment it's not irrational to be afraid of a horror movie, when you get immersed in a story it can feel like you are experiencing it too, hence why jump scares and feeling tensed and scared happens so often when watching horror movies.

@Murxoq 2 жыл бұрын

Bruh this makes me feel so dumb, never thought about him checking his head or how the heck they hold their knife, well played

@kimberlyterasaki4843 3 жыл бұрын

Finally someone got that the bathroom scene was just a prank! Everytime I see a Scream video try to say that was Billy or Stu, it immediately brings down the quality of their timeline for me. They basically spell it out that it was prankster because Principal Hembry is seen raging at two students, one of whom was the one who ran in the hall and the other of whom scared Sidney in the bathroom. Can't help but wonder what Billy and Stu thought of that. I feel like they'd either be pleased that Sidney is being made to feel more unsafe, even by stuff that's not of their doing, or angry that they didn't think of it.

@codyvfx2752 3 жыл бұрын

Or it could’ve been Roman

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

Stu probably liked it because he said it felt like Christmas. Billy was probably more concerned that it could mess with their plans.

@mungosmungo8694 3 жыл бұрын

I think it's more important than just "pranksters". I agree it was neither of the two, and Roman wasn't a thing yet. It's the big tell that sets up Two killers. Everyone is focused on the idea of a singular killer, that no one is thinking otherwise. The scene Winkler is the tell.

@braziliansimon2737 3 жыл бұрын

I would never notice that was a prank. For me, that scene was always an absurd and so unrealistic for me

@buffyglimmers 3 жыл бұрын

I always thought this but kept hearing theories about stu or billy in the bathroom

@jameshelsing7254 3 жыл бұрын

5:31: another clue: Billy briefly shows us his true personality with the look on his face. The brilliance of Craven and/or Ulrich at work!

@sonia.angel401 3 жыл бұрын

Never noticed that!

@Xehanort10 3 жыл бұрын

Billy probably wanted to kill Sidney then and there but restrained himself because he wanted to mess with her head and torment her which he does later by first having Stu pretend to stab him after he and Sidney have sex faking his death. Then after the reveal Billy and Stu planned to make her watch them frame her dad for the murders, kill him then after that kill her.

@alessiodelcastillo1613 3 жыл бұрын

@@sonia.angel401 ?

@07foxmulder 3 жыл бұрын

The look of awkwardness? There’s two moments in the film where Billy breaks his character and it’s when he’s with Stu: When he tells Stu “Nobody said you did” out side of the school and as he’s walking away from Randy at the video store. This scene isn’t one of them.

@jameshelsing7254 3 жыл бұрын

@@07foxmulder Awkwardness no. True personality yes.

@Nekoviking08 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking your time and make this awesome video with all the clues they show, much appreciated

@dsmitty882010 2 жыл бұрын

I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU DID THIS!!! I’ve been wanting to unwrap this for a minute lol

@waffles9947 3 жыл бұрын

Steve’s Death- Stu Casey’s Death- Billy Sydney’s first attack- Stu Bathroom attack- Prankster Himbrey’s death- Billy Tatum’s death- Billy Billy’s fake death- Stu (obviously) Kenny’s death- Stu Dewey’s attack- Billy

@bobbybrown5196 3 жыл бұрын

I always had a hard time with Stu killing Steve. I felt like Billy was angry with Stu at the fountain scene when Stu said “Na, I didn’t kill anyone” and Billy responds “No one said you did.” Almost disappointed that Stu didn’t hold up his end of the bargain. But I also heard the other theory that Bill was basically telling Stu to STFU, so I understand that too.

@Bawitdabadabangdadang 3 жыл бұрын

All correct except from the bathroom being a prank. The Fonz was killed shortly after so it was clearly either Stu or Billy. My money is on Stu as Sidney has literally just argued with and ran away from Billy.

@Bawitdabadabangdadang 3 жыл бұрын

@@bobbybrown5196 At the fountain scene they establish that Casey dumped Stu so she could go out with Steve. Would make sense that Stu did it.

@mickroyster6442 3 жыл бұрын

Well the guy who was wearing the ghost face costume was actually the actor for billy so that was billy

@devraghav5151 3 жыл бұрын

Stu killed everyone except Himbry. Stu likes to take his time, torture his victims before killing them. Billy wants to get the job done asap. When they reveal themselves to Sidney the way Stu says “Watch a few movies, take a few notes... it was fuuuun” shows his obsession for hunting down people. While Billy exacted revenge, Stu was actually the knife happy killer that’s why he always took his time and let the victims have a moment of reprieve before killing them. 1. Stu kills Casey & Steve (Casey dumped him for Steve). Billy was on the phone throughout - his impatience on the phone and lust for horror movies is proof. 2. Billy kills Himbry while Stu provides distraction. We can see Stu hurrying away after inviting the ladies. Billy got the job done asap without any bs. 3. Stu kills Tatum - Like mentioned above he played around before killing her. He also falls over a lot (a scene where he asks Tatum to get more beer he pretty much falls over the couch). His grunts in the garage are similar to those when he’s chasing Sidney after faking Billy’s death. Most importantly - he sneaks back into the house while Billy shows up later and looks completely fresh (he probably showered after hanging Himbry) Stu kills Kenny as we all know and he attacks Dewey as well as he loves to clean his knife after stabbing (which he does when he pulls out the knife from Dewey as he did for when he pretended to kill Billy). There we have it guys !!

@sumeetdhoat6747 3 жыл бұрын

Yes Billy definitely killed Casey. I know she was intended to be killed by Stu but the chase was so chaotic that it was a matter of who got to her first.

@LastDebt555 2 жыл бұрын

Billy is a sick fuck lmao. It only makes sense that Stu killed Steve and billy killed Casey. I always thought as a kid that sindey’s first attack was billy, but it definitely wasn’t for sure.

@marcoA95 Жыл бұрын

No, lol. Stu killed Casey. Confirmed by Kevin Williamson himself.

@Ad-fu6tj Жыл бұрын

@@marcoA95 Honestly, I got an idea that Kevin said who KILLED her and when killer raised hand with knife she was still alive. Billy probably said "Hey" to Stu so he came to him and gutted her.

@marcoA95 Жыл бұрын

@@Ad-fu6tj Casey's death, in my opinion, came when the phone rang busy to his mother. There came her death. At that moment Casey was being dragged by Ghostface (Stuart) towards the tree. Only afterwards was she gutted and hanged with Billy's help. Seriously, after an official tweet from the film's writer explicitly assigning the murder to Stuart(never denied by anyone)those who still believe Billy did it, I consider them Scream terrapaths.

@Ad-fu6tj Жыл бұрын

@@marcoA95 Ok, thanks

@adelineoswald8641 2 жыл бұрын

i’ve been looking for a video like this! i’m a huge fan of the franchise but i’ve really only been able to decipher a few kills from this movie. awesome work!!

@amesaep Жыл бұрын

I think Stu killed Tatum. Billy appears at the other side of the house while the ghostface who kills her walks back in. I also saw somewhere that billy would’ve had to take the long way if he left through the garage

@johnsmi213 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think he's saying "Easy, easy." He's just grunting as he runs.

@Austyn_Young7 3 жыл бұрын

Same

@AsGoodAsItGetsMusic 3 жыл бұрын

Kind of agree. I hear it, but it feels like one of those “which do you hear” Facebook videos.

@johnsmi213 3 жыл бұрын

@@AsGoodAsItGetsMusic The grunts are done by a looping group that also did things like "See you later, Sid" ADR when Neve gets off the school bus (because she was the only one on there so they threw in voices so it wouldn't be obvious.) There's no reason they'd have a random voice actor say Stu's line or that they'd loop in Matthew Lillard's take in a previous scene (Rose hitting him with the lollipop seemed ad lib and his "Easy" would be, too.) It's just twisting random grunting sounds and trying to bend them to sound like words.

@jveerf8573 3 жыл бұрын

@@AsGoodAsItGetsMusic was shaggy the killer before meet scooby

@theknifeshift2939 3 жыл бұрын

My problem with this is, wouldn't Sidney hear that, turn around and be like "Stu?..." lol other than that, I love all of this uncovered detail. -Jesse

@BabySwearWords 3 жыл бұрын

I always thought I was so clever knowing that Stu was the one chasing Sidney in her house. But I never thought out Neil’s kidnapping based on his clothes. You are great man!

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rob 😊 I'm sure there's more to be discovered just yet. It's the movie that keeps on giving.

@audio4me696 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think there will ever be a revival of the slasher genre as good as this

@davidcici11Evolution Жыл бұрын

I think his kills should be the official cannon for this franchise. You have the most thought provoking ideas behind each kill that really are believable and reputable.

@s.storumus8620 3 жыл бұрын

Tbh I think it’s more plausible that Stu locks the door while Billy was already in the garage

@AudienceReactions 3 жыл бұрын

Just a fun thought: I think Stu will be our killer again in Scream 5. I think about this because- PAUSE! Update: Just saw SCREAM 5 and I still loved it even if Stu wasn’t in it.

@daveqm1024 3 жыл бұрын

Stu was originally going to be the main villain of Scream 3. He would be in prison and orchestrating attacks in high schools by his followers that he’d gained after the first one. This plot was scrapped after Columbine happened, but the serial killer cult led by a man in prison was still used by Kevin Williamson in his show The Following.

@asttru 3 жыл бұрын

maybe bro

@yadanada4106 3 жыл бұрын

Billy got shot in the HEAD, so I highly doubt they “saved” him.

@potnik007 3 жыл бұрын

Not gonna happen 100%. The main rule of every whodunit movie is that you see all the suspects from the very beginning. In Stu's case his face can be revealed only in the very end and that twist will tell nothing to the general audiences, apart from a relatively small fan base.

@FOXCYBORGNINJA 3 жыл бұрын

@@yadanada4106 it was a 9mm round. Normal police response time is ideally 5/6 minutes. Tatum’s house was in the country side so maybe inside of 15/20 minutes. Billy’s definitely dead dead.

@aqxuin Жыл бұрын

Going by this theory, Billy also seems more keen to ‘hang’ his victims. As all three of his were found hung in a way. (If you count the garage as hung)

@lorenmorabito9136 Жыл бұрын

Very good. I couldn't have analized and explained it better.

@Xehanort10 3 жыл бұрын

Billy probably had Stu do the majority of the work so he could blame it all on him if they got caught.

@geekedmedia 3 жыл бұрын

Skeet said in an interview that he actually wore the costume for the scene where he walks behind Randy at the party.

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

True. Wes Craven says it on the commentary track. But only because they typically have a stunt actor playing ghostface. This doesn't confirm it was Billy though. Skeet just wanted to wear the costume and Wes still directed him as if it were Stu.

@kevinschofieldjr.9927 11 ай бұрын

Love your videos Zack I hope your doing good with your mental health

@amandaschmidt9528 2 жыл бұрын

Also also ... I always chuckle at Sid watching Gale crash and just leaving her ass there without giving a second thought. Didn't even think to run over and check on her and it really sends it home how much she hates her 😂

@jeanninebrice9107 3 жыл бұрын

Love this! And Stu wouldn’t have to break in before Sidney got home. He prob had neil’s keys! Awesome analysis! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

You're right!

@armouredjester1622 3 жыл бұрын

Six months late, but using stolen keys is still breaking in

@saskscott26 3 жыл бұрын

@@armouredjester1622 right but the commenter specified "break in before Sidney got home." She's not saying they didn't break in just the the time that they did.

@WhiteWolfTraveler1 3 жыл бұрын

I always felt the Ghostface stalking during the pre party scenes were never intended to be taken at face value. The movie hadn’t revealed who the killers were yet and it was more symbolic that it was someone following and stalking them but not necessarily in costume as obviously the actors couldn’t be shown yet. And it was also another nod to Halloween.

@SurvivorBri Жыл бұрын

I always thought that Billy was the mastermind, made the phone calls and Stu did most of the killing. I agree that both Billy and Stu attacked Casey. They were on in that together. Maybe the two people Billy killed by himself were the Principal and Tatem (obviously Stu had left the school at that point). On some level, Stu probably liked Tatem and didn't want to be the one to take her out.

@erikhagler3500 2 жыл бұрын

I kinda wonder how much Stu had to do with the Casey/Steve murders as Stu said the next day “I didn’t kill anybody”, in which Billy responds “nobody said YOU did” then he shoots Stu a “shut up” look. Just a thought….also I would find EXTREMELY awesome to e able to see a short film that shows how the town dealt with the aftermath including funerals and high school tributes

@veloc.raptor9136 Жыл бұрын

nobody said you did (because i did, dont worry buddy i got you. so you better have my back when i mess up and need you to be my alibi)

@urbantea7119 3 жыл бұрын

6:54 I have always noticed ghostface saying “easy, easy” as he was chasing Sidney up the stairs. I always thought it was the stunt actor playing ghostface and was added in by accident. Like how in scream 2 when Cici was thrown off the balcony you can see a crew member’s head pop up behind the balcony in the lower right corner of the screen. (they removed it on the new Blu-ray release but if you have the dvd from way back you’ll spot it). Never noticed that Stu said it in school though! Pretty good attention to detail there.

@fans-ed1td 2 жыл бұрын

Idk if it's just me but i just hear him grunting and not saying easy. it seems like a stretch.

@icycult 3 жыл бұрын

i remember accidentally finding Dead Meat james’ channel in the early days of his youtube career and now he’s blowing up. i can’t believe i found your channel accidentally too and can’t wait for it to blow up as well!!! great content!

@amandacoffey6170 2 жыл бұрын

Loved this! Perfect breakdown!!

@kylep7353 Жыл бұрын

These videos are awesome. Love the content

@macabre2300 3 жыл бұрын

The first scene with Syd and Billy they play a cover of "Fear the reaper" the lyrics of the song give the identity away.

@BeingScared 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video man. 👍

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊

@BeingScared 3 жыл бұрын

Zack Cherry np man. I love anything Scream related, and you obviously have done your home work. Highly interesting to a mega fan. Check this out dude: I filmed a Scream fan film at Stu’s actual house last year. It’s sorta my take on the beginning to Scream 5, hinting that Stu is not dead. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gdB2qbmk28-1o3U.html

@applejuice6459 3 жыл бұрын

@@BeingScared hey i know you.

@miguelangelpacheco8673 2 жыл бұрын

After seeing this last night at the theatre I fell back in love with this video 🔥 Dope ass breakdown!

@DianaNacho333 2 жыл бұрын

The only thing I’d change is, I think Stu killed Casey. If he’s out for revenge against an ex girlfriend he’s going to want to kill her. And the ghost face chasing her is tall, like Stu; as I would classify Billy as average height. Like in that whole Casey sequence Billy’s on the phone and Stu the one physically going after and killing Casey; who rejected/broke up with him.

@The_Mold_Wizard 3 жыл бұрын

Also notice that Billy's mask is different than Stu's during the first two times he's seen as Ghostface. There's a real world reason for this, as they hadn't secured the rights to the Funworld outfit when those two scenes were filmed, but it's interesting to note that the two times you see a clearly different Ghostface mask are both Billy. The mask that Billy chases Casey with is clearly different than the one Stu has inside the house, and Stu is never seen with a mask like that, meaning it could technically serve as an early hint that there are two Ghostfaces.

@ZackCherry 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I know about the different masks, but I never really looked too closely at the differences as they all look the same to me.

@Seph_vision 3 жыл бұрын

@@ZackCherry you think the knb looks the same as the funworld one?