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Why did Holly Scream at Everyone in Dance Moms S5E6?

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@avecashley6480
@avecashley6480 Жыл бұрын
Beyond shocked Jill was fighting this hard for holly and nia because as soon as the music video was filmed, she was one of the loudest critics
@chalkandcheese1868
@chalkandcheese1868 Жыл бұрын
You're only shocked because they didn't air it, that wasn't Jill's narrative. The producers wanted everybody to hate Jill, and they succeeded.
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
@@chalkandcheese1868 girl Jill herself said she was a bit jealous because Kendall was jealous
@Claire-jr8yv
@Claire-jr8yv Жыл бұрын
@@chalkandcheese1868obviously she was supportive at first. But once it started she switched up. She literally said things word of mouth that would make you think she didn’t like the situation to on
@vividlyvic.
@vividlyvic. Жыл бұрын
she switched up bc from her perspective, holly didn’t have to “follow the rules” and still got a better outcome.
@franks_fiction
@franks_fiction Жыл бұрын
Knowing the backstory, I’m so proud of Holly for standing up for Nia and herself. It took a lot of courage to stand up to that toxic environment.
@Youdontneedtoknowmyname-zw1tr
@Youdontneedtoknowmyname-zw1tr Жыл бұрын
She should’ve left earlier, but she didn’t
@franks_fiction
@franks_fiction Жыл бұрын
@@Youdontneedtoknowmyname-zw1tr but wasn’t she in a contract?
@Youdontneedtoknowmyname-zw1tr
@Youdontneedtoknowmyname-zw1tr Жыл бұрын
@@franks_fiction this is the thing that always messes with my head, why didn’t they get a lawyer involved or anything? Because the cast literally admitted that the producers were breaking rules of child labor and they were literally mentally abusing them. So sometimes when they say they were stuck in a contract, it seems like a lousy excuse
@2turg_2furious
@2turg_2furious Жыл бұрын
@@Youdontneedtoknowmyname-zw1trprobably because it would be hard to prove that and would be a lot more trouble then just waiting it out. It’s not a simple “they are mistreating us, we want out!” The world doesn’t work like that. Think about it who would win a giant company or a higher class mom. They only way I could think of it working out is if all cast and crew members came together but we both know that wouldn’t have happened.
@klauoana
@klauoana Жыл бұрын
Same.
@CrystalAcheing
@CrystalAcheing Жыл бұрын
Holly made the right decision to take Nia’s career in her own hands as Abby was most definitely racist and showed her micro aggressions more towards Nia.
@amandamandamands
@amandamandamands Жыл бұрын
Not only that, look at what happened with Kendall. She managed Kendall and she had a couple of songs come out and afterwards blamed other people for there not being a whole album saying that she paid people and they didn't produce what they were supposed to etc. Kenzie ended up getting sued (don't know what happened with that) and dropped being Mack Z (seems like that name was Abby's idea rather than Kenzie's) when she left whoever it was that the contract was with at that time.
@moonwalkerangel7008
@moonwalkerangel7008 Жыл бұрын
@@amandamandamands Kenzie was sued by Kismet because she did a duet with another artist against her contract if I remember this right, I think it was discussed in the video on why the girls stopped speaking to Abby part 2… either part 1 or part 2.
@jenniferrivera7606
@jenniferrivera7606 Жыл бұрын
I really don't think it had to do with race. I think Abby was simply jealous and wanted credit for EVERYTHING the girls did. She still demands credit to this very day! The only girl who ever got praise was Maddie. So it had nothing to do with race and everything to do with control and jealousy!
@-valmetal-
@-valmetal- Жыл бұрын
@@jenniferrivera7606she was the one of the ONLY black girls on the team that got type casted to do stereotypical dances, the only one that was overlooked the entirety of the show, was told she wasn’t “african enough”, and the only one criticized for her hair.. it had everything to do with race.
@CrystalAcheing
@CrystalAcheing Жыл бұрын
@@jenniferrivera7606 lmao it had everything to do with race. So miss me with that bs.
@ciarau12
@ciarau12 Жыл бұрын
I wish Christi and Kelly had been there. They would've had Holly's back.
@maddiesophia9745
@maddiesophia9745 Жыл бұрын
I doubt it, in season 1 when Abby and holly got in a fight they didn’t back her up
@ciarau12
@ciarau12 Жыл бұрын
@@maddiesophia9745 they had Nia's back on multiple occasions and advocated for her to have solos.
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
@@maddiesophia9745you didn’t see Christi comforting her?
@lifeofsanaaya3163
@lifeofsanaaya3163 Жыл бұрын
@@maddiesophia9745yeah they did. Christi and Melissa did. Holly and i think Cathy got in a fight and Holly cried and Melissa comforted her and said that she’s their rock and Christi comforted her in the bathroom. Also Christi comforted Holly after Abby made the comment that Nia could get married and have kids in some countries in season 4
@cvera__
@cvera__ Жыл бұрын
i agree
@yanaji7508
@yanaji7508 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad that the girls, the literal children, were more proud of Nia, encouraging of her, and happy for her success than the grown adult women were. And I will always respect Nia as a person. Always polite and even tempered but NEVER took trash from anyone.
@chalkandcheese1868
@chalkandcheese1868 Жыл бұрын
Well according to this video the mother's did nothing but defend Holly and Nia, especially Jill.
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
@@chalkandcheese1868 exactly this is the only video
@chalkandcheese1868
@chalkandcheese1868 Жыл бұрын
@@JennaeBradshaw Oh come on, if Jill was defending her all the time about this, you must assume she did it every other time as well.
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
@@chalkandcheese1868 um no I wouldn’t because past videos she wasn’t defending holly and I’m pretty sure after the music fiasco we’ll see a switch in Jill.
@chalkandcheese1868
@chalkandcheese1868 Жыл бұрын
@@JennaeBradshaw lol give her a break, even when she sticks up for people you still hate her. You can't just say "well she's probably a bitch every other time" even though you have no idea. The whole music video thing (and everything else) was completely set up by producers. The only reason they didn't show Jill and Melissa sticking up for Holly and Nia is because that's not what they wanted, and it doesn't make good TV, they wanted arguing. They were probably manipulated or under instructions to fight about it, and that includes Holly as well.
@HorrorEdits642
@HorrorEdits642 Жыл бұрын
I have so much respect for holly for getting the girls to go out of the room when she knows that she will lose her temper. The fact that she is able to think of the kids in the room while she’s so frustrated and angry with Abby is amazing. Holly’s amazing.
@murderjai
@murderjai Жыл бұрын
“girls out the room!” was my favorite part of the entire show
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
Jess wasn’t friends with Holly they used her because Nia was getting bigger in her music career and wanted Jojo in that lane. Jess is and always will be disgusting.
@mimiray7836
@mimiray7836 Жыл бұрын
THIS!! I just commented about this! I’m super happy for Jojo ofc but it hurts that after all of Jess’s coldness and throwing kids under the bus, she had the last laugh with how successful Jojo got.
@cvera__
@cvera__ Жыл бұрын
i agree
@chalkandcheese1868
@chalkandcheese1868 Жыл бұрын
I think that's a bit harsh, Jess knew what her role was and she was just doing her job.
@sleepyaven
@sleepyaven Жыл бұрын
@@chalkandcheese1868no she wasn’t. She admitted to going after them for no reason. She’s disgusting. That’s not doing her job, that’s being a disgusting brat because she wanted all the attention. And there’s a reason Jojo doesn’t talk to many of the girls anymore.
@chalkandcheese1868
@chalkandcheese1868 Жыл бұрын
@@sleepyaven They're arguing about a stupid music video and kids dancing, it's not that serious, and that WAS her job, that's what she was literally paid to do.
@sngray11
@sngray11 Жыл бұрын
I am so proud of Holly for standing up for Nia. As soon as Brooke, Paige, and Chloe were gone, Nia became Abby’s new scapegoat. I do think that the moms should have supported Holly the way that Christi and Kelly used to.
@theresakelly3100
@theresakelly3100 Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that at the beginning it seems like Jill was the most vocal in support of Holly
@yanaji7508
@yanaji7508 Жыл бұрын
She’s the biggest “switcher.” She’ll take Abby’s side behind your back but when you’re there, she’ll defend you.
@vividlyvic.
@vividlyvic. Жыл бұрын
@@yanaji7508but that was the opposite of what happened. holly wasn’t at pyramid when she asked abby if nia could have a vocal lesson. jill is actually the most upfront. she’ll tell you that she’s looking out for self but obviously still has a heart 😂
@gwendolynmorgan7803
@gwendolynmorgan7803 2 ай бұрын
Jess and Kira didn't care about the other kids, and Melissa just does whatever Abby says. Kendall is Jill's youngest kid, so Jill is by far the most experienced dance mom. It might just be a habit for her to support all the kids? It's the best way to get along.
@samiemily7467
@samiemily7467 Жыл бұрын
Abby had stated multiple times that she hated that Nia grew up.. because she finally found herself standing up to Abby. “You’re being your mom”… her mom is HOLLY??? It’s a problem??? Like she’s mad that she can’t walk over her like she did when she was 9-11
@mimiray7836
@mimiray7836 Жыл бұрын
Though I’m very happy for Jojo for all of her success and she earned every bit of it, it kills me that Jess had the last laugh after how terrible she was to everyone. I get that she had to cause drama to stay on the show, but unashamedly throwing kids under the bus and influencing Jojo to do the same? Terrible.
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
She’s disgusting
@badmanicpower
@badmanicpower Жыл бұрын
I will say, while Jess was downright nasty sometimes, the other moms constantly diminished JoJo so that probably prompted Jess to keep retaliating. Even the production notes mention how the moms treat Jess & JoJo with disrespect as well but are always made to seem like the good guys. I think once Ashlee & Brynn arrived in S6, Jess definitely grew closer to the other moms as basically everyone always was against Ashlee.
@LuzMaria95
@LuzMaria95 Жыл бұрын
ikr!!! 😞
@nalataehyung4594
@nalataehyung4594 Жыл бұрын
@@badmanicpower they were like that to Jess because of how rude she was to them right off the bat
@sleepyaven
@sleepyaven Жыл бұрын
@@badmanicpowerhonestly the other Mums had had enough of Jess and JoJo going after their kids. If I had to put up with it all the time, I’d snap back too.
@moonwalkerangel7008
@moonwalkerangel7008 Жыл бұрын
I do think Holly made the right call with Nia’s music career without Abby given that Abby took away opportunities for Nia or typecasted her into stereotypical rules that are harmful. Having said that, Holly by going to production made things worse for Nia. I don’t know when it became knowledge that the children’s contracts were not legally processed in California but even though Holly wanted Nia to be resilient in the entertainment industry, Holly should have taken Nia out of the ALDC in the same way Jess did for JoJo in season 6 because Abby treated Nia the same way she treated Chloe by excluding Nia just with micro aggressions.
@Lavbrown2016
@Lavbrown2016 Жыл бұрын
I agree I feel like a good mother would have made that executive decision. I feel like holly was there for her own gain too.
@DrCrystalOlinger
@DrCrystalOlinger Жыл бұрын
Jess didn’t have the same contract.
@moonwalkerangel7008
@moonwalkerangel7008 Жыл бұрын
@@DrCrystalOlinger The moms would have the same contract as each other. But the children’s contracts were not legally processed in California court system. Otherwise JoJo would have not been allowed to pursue the opportunity with Nickelodeon during season 6. It has been discussed before on this channel on the video “how the moms got out of their contracts.”
@DrCrystalOlinger
@DrCrystalOlinger Жыл бұрын
@@moonwalkerangel7008 I think that’s a fair point.
@emmyjo720
@emmyjo720 11 ай бұрын
Abby know FA about music....It took Melissa two years to leave and remove Abby’s control over Kenzie’s music.
@francheskalandfair7004
@francheskalandfair7004 Жыл бұрын
Holly most definately made the right call. And Jess support of Holly and Nia was clearly fake because she was just cold
@crustycoconut6701
@crustycoconut6701 Жыл бұрын
it was refreshing to jill stand up for holly a couple times in the notes
@TM9_
@TM9_ Жыл бұрын
Agreed! It’s a shame it didn’t always last long lol But I’m glad the Jill did have moments of supporting another dancer and not just only supporting her daughter.
@chalkandcheese1868
@chalkandcheese1868 Жыл бұрын
She probably did 99% of the time they just didn't show it.
@leenasiraj6378
@leenasiraj6378 Жыл бұрын
Honestly shout out to Aubrey! she was genuinely sweet and took nia under her wing, something Abby would never ever do
@Cassycat99
@Cassycat99 Жыл бұрын
Nia is so strong for sitting by herself on the stage. Good for her.
@RealJoseph123
@RealJoseph123 Жыл бұрын
All the brown-noising got Melissa nowhere but other opportunities. She doesn’t even talk to Abby anymore. She used Abby’s name and ran with it, she’s very smart.
@l3xagabrielle776
@l3xagabrielle776 Жыл бұрын
i agree lol. it was smart of her not let the moms' opinions change her decisions. every time she did, it backfired on her
@yanaji7508
@yanaji7508 Жыл бұрын
Melissa knew the game and she played it from the beginning. It’s hilarious because she was the only mom to beat Abby in her own game. Abby mistreated everyone and exploited Maddie for her personal gain to ride her coattails and take credit for her success. Maddie’s success boomed thanks to Sia (which Abby had no part in) and she just kept going until Abby realized she couldn’t control her fame and started to try to destroy her, then Melissa took her out.
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
@@l3xagabrielle776 not all the time her standing up for Mackenzie probably made Kenzie happy because s2-5 Melissa wouldn’t of done that.
@sjorsdewit4325
@sjorsdewit4325 Жыл бұрын
It's actually really sad and ridiculous that Nia had to stay seated when the group went to get their award, because Kalani got to join the group on stage for the 'domino's' dance even though she wasn't in it. That's just not fair, and I feel bad for Nia. She deserved better 💗
@bryannoelle
@bryannoelle Жыл бұрын
Holly was honestly alone after Christi and Kelly left. All the moms hanged up on her and all turned on her. If Christi and Kelly stayed they would’ve had her back.
@chalkandcheese1868
@chalkandcheese1868 Жыл бұрын
Did you actually watch the video? The mother's constantly defended her.
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
@@chalkandcheese1868 not all the time that’s the difference and the only mom to defend her was Jill so stop with the narrative
@leesunmi424
@leesunmi424 9 ай бұрын
Literally the difference with holly and the other mothers is clear as day . Holly has morals and sticks to them , she doesn’t betray anyone and genuinely does what’s right for her and nia and for the team . If she can’t get opportunities from Abby she won’t manipulate the other mothers or Abby to give it to her , instead she finds someone else who is willing to give nia a chance , while the other mothers usually fight with Abby just so Abby would give them a sponsorship or something . Holly has always been my favourite dance moms due to her calm demeanour and reasonable outbursts . She has every right to feel the way she does and Abby and the other mothers were so wrong with that . I get that the other mothers sided Abby as they knew if they sided with holly Abby would take away their children’s opportunities and won’t be seen as a loyal or valuable member of the team . But holly isn’t like that , she sticks to her values and does what’s right
@LuzMaria95
@LuzMaria95 Жыл бұрын
To have anything against Holly and/or Nia is ridiculous. They’re the LEAST annoying and least bothersome, and least quarrelsome of all the dance moms and girls.
@XSocialMisfitX
@XSocialMisfitX Жыл бұрын
Right.
@2turg_2furious
@2turg_2furious Жыл бұрын
I feel dumb for not remembering her name but one of the coaches who came in s7 to coach the irreplaceables said that when holly wasn’t filming she would read books and thought of her as the best mom.
@LuzMaria95
@LuzMaria95 Жыл бұрын
@@2turg_2furious If I'm not mistaken, that's Cheryl Burke. She's a professional ballroom dancer. I know her from dancing with the stars. I love that she said that about Holly because it's so true. She's the best reality tv mom I've ever seen.
@2turg_2furious
@2turg_2furious Жыл бұрын
@@LuzMaria95 YES it was her I couldn’t for the life remember who it was thank you!
@LuzMaria95
@LuzMaria95 Жыл бұрын
@@2turg_2furious no problem!! ☺️
@coachbtvla
@coachbtvla Жыл бұрын
There is so much horrifying behavior from Abby this episode...Unbelievable how she still has a career with children. I'm only at 5:18 and it's so hard to watch... Unbelievable work with this channel 👏🏻
@Aura946
@Aura946 11 ай бұрын
Holly was allways my favourite mom, she knew her daughter's worth and wasn't afraid to speak up for her or any of the other girls. I never understood how she and Nia were able to stand Abby for so long, but it shows their determination
@TheZombifiedFairy
@TheZombifiedFairy 11 ай бұрын
And IMMENSE respect for her always telling the girls to leave when drama is occurring. Even as she, herself, is about to explode she removes the girls
@sleepyaven
@sleepyaven Жыл бұрын
I had no respect for Jess, because let’s face it she’s a terrible person.. but this just makes it even worse. She purposely went after kids on the show and tried to make trouble constantly, and she’s confirmed that herself. I get that she wanted fame, but there was no need to act like such a brat
@chiara4243
@chiara4243 Жыл бұрын
I have SO MUCH to say so I have to do a numbered list lol 1. Can’t believe ABBY called HOLLY “mean” 2. Nia is so mature I’m always so surprised but it also makes me so sad because kids who’ve experienced trauma tend to mature faster :( 3. Abby is so gross for the bribe to Aubrey… it feels like Karma that her poor use of money got her arrested 4. I hated when the moms blamed the Rage dancers for their kids getting lice, obviously it’s just jealousy but c’mon don’t pick on kids 5. Surprised the moms seemed so shocked when Jess said Jojo got lice from their kids lol there was literally an outbreak so that must be edited 6. Club dance losing this week was honestly a joke - I feel like the comp had to be rigged or at least biased That’s it haha hope someone cared to read through this
@Crynki09
@Crynki09 Жыл бұрын
Holly is an amazing and supportive mother who instilled confidence in her daughter at such a difficult time. I don’t want to say what is happening to Abby’s life is karma, but I’ll just say God doesn’t sleep. 💅🏽
@eleanorpfeferman1608
@eleanorpfeferman1608 11 ай бұрын
- Say what you want about Christi and Kelly, but they would 10000% back Holly and Nia. Not just pormising her to her face and sneaking to Abby a second later. - Nia deserves some kind of award for having such a strong center and standing her ground for her own truth *while staying graceful and respectful every step of the way*. Truly inspiring - We all need Holly to teach parenting skills to everyone. I'd sign in in a heartbeat!
@lynne2694
@lynne2694 Жыл бұрын
When Nia was going through her singing career during this season. The producers and Abby’s wanted to make Holly look like the angry black woman so bad & looking back at these episodes I can honestly see that. Holly is so classy & graceful that she knows how to handle herself. The other moms are so fake & not true friends!
@mevdjemal
@mevdjemal Жыл бұрын
Can't believe a grown women would sabotage a child Very sad
@mariella2884
@mariella2884 Жыл бұрын
Jill is a 🐍 I cannot count the number of situations where she has been manipulative and nasty to others...including children. Holly is a 👑 I think she was the most supportive of the mothers.
@samiemily7467
@samiemily7467 Жыл бұрын
they tried to make Holly look like a crazy black woman of course.. like they deadass ALL gaslighted her.
@lindamartindale6496
@lindamartindale6496 Жыл бұрын
I was proud if Holly with this episode. Knowing the rumors oh how Abby works, she was upset that she couldn’t get a managerial fee. Holly started taking control because Abby didn’t care. From season 1, Abby didn’t want Nia (Paige, Chloe or Brooke) on the team.
@steventaylor1522
@steventaylor1522 Жыл бұрын
Season 5 was so uncomfortable to watch and this episode was the most uncomfortable to watch.
@jeanienguyen1543
@jeanienguyen1543 Жыл бұрын
i think this was the same episode where brynn had a solo with club dance too, i remember she said she performed her solo that won at the dance awards but kendall beat her with a bollywood solo lmao
@TM9_
@TM9_ Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is they episode! And Brynn even said the competition was rigged since her solo had won at one of the most prestigious dance competitions at the time prior to her competing it against “my little Kendall” lol
@chalkandcheese1868
@chalkandcheese1868 Жыл бұрын
​@@TM9_Did you ever think that maybe Brynn made a mistake? she's not a robot.
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
@@chalkandcheese1868 nah that competition was definitely rigged don’t you remember saying that competitions were fake ?
@vitaextra3371
@vitaextra3371 Жыл бұрын
Club Dance losing is the biggest joke . . .
@kimani_williams95
@kimani_williams95 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know why Holly expected the moms to back her up, especially Jill. The only time Jill steps up and fights back when her little Kendall is in the hot seat.
@chalkandcheese1868
@chalkandcheese1868 Жыл бұрын
Seriously do you idiots even watch these videos? Jill was constantly defending her. Jill and Kendall could cure cancer and you'd still be hating on them.
@s3yarah
@s3yarah Жыл бұрын
Because they’re friends ?
@njyawndra8609
@njyawndra8609 9 ай бұрын
You're acting as if Holly doesn't know them personally.
@heatherward5053
@heatherward5053 Жыл бұрын
So happy for a new video!! The behind-the-scenes real stuff is so addictive!!I love that Nia was encouraging the other girls to branch out. They seemed fine with Abby half-assing their careers (except Maddie and Kenzie). Kendell got 1 or 2 songs with Abby, then nothing. Holly and Nia definitely chose the harder path, but they did it on their own and on their own terms. Holly took her power back by telling Abby “no, Nia is not dancing.” She wasn’t prepared one bit so why should she jump at stale scraps?? Abby had all week to tell her but she waited until they were at the competition to freak her out.
@Juulx1
@Juulx1 Жыл бұрын
TBH I'm always like if Holly screams it must be for a good reason. She didn't raise her voice if it wasn't absolutely necessary. When Holly screams, you listen
@FaixyIvy
@FaixyIvy Жыл бұрын
We Stan queen holly 👑
@mevdjemal
@mevdjemal Жыл бұрын
Poor nia and holly I wish we saw what truly happened in the episode and it would've explained hollys behaviour a lot more
@JanaHamsho
@JanaHamsho Жыл бұрын
Holly is the best dance mom she stands up to her child as a grown up
@danceableandloveable
@danceableandloveable 2 ай бұрын
Wait I love that Nia was part of the creative process and lyric writing for her song! 🩷 love Nia
@kortneyhill939
@kortneyhill939 Жыл бұрын
It’s surprising yet not surprising that there ended up being more to the Holly and Abby fight. I think that adds more depth to Holly’s arguments during season 5 and her case
@Jacqueline888
@Jacqueline888 11 ай бұрын
looking back it’s clear abby realized the girls had more potential to continue the show without her than vice versa. we could watch them grow up and do other things, either as Dance Moms or under a spin-off name. abby wasn’t able to easily find a good set of dancers with entertainment moms
@just.be_aldc6992
@just.be_aldc6992 Жыл бұрын
Love this series 💜
@diongrey5033
@diongrey5033 Жыл бұрын
Cool
@Gagging4Lit
@Gagging4Lit Жыл бұрын
That seems so crazy and outright malicious of Abby to try and block Nia from her music career. I wonder if the producers were the ones who said they would pay Aubrey O'Day 10k. Did Abby even have 10k to spare lol. I think Abby went along with it though. I thought the segment when Nia worked with Aubrey in the studio was so inspiring and heartwarming. This Unedited series is one of my faves on youtube!!!!
@melt2947
@melt2947 Ай бұрын
Abby calling ANYONE else a liar is honestly hilarious
@enriqueolguin3601
@enriqueolguin3601 Жыл бұрын
Go Holly !!!!🙌🏽🙌🏽 of course 100% Abby was narcissistic, delusional, and an 😊entitled baby
@BLINKtotheNSWER
@BLINKtotheNSWER Жыл бұрын
Abby in the thumbnail is sending me 💀
@mp3music804
@mp3music804 9 ай бұрын
Jill standing up for nia is so cute ❤
@celesterodriguez9135
@celesterodriguez9135 Жыл бұрын
I love Holly❤ One of the best moms on the shows
@isabellemyzer1807
@isabellemyzer1807 Жыл бұрын
We all know Holly doesn't sweat the small stuff, so when she loses her temper you know the person deserved it.
@sashaking1115
@sashaking1115 Жыл бұрын
Holly and Nia were 100% in the right! Love them both
@jaydamay6815
@jaydamay6815 10 ай бұрын
the moms + Abby treated Holly & Nia way worse than what was shown . & that really disappoints me bc you would think that production exaggerated what happened .
@kenyawalls2255
@kenyawalls2255 Ай бұрын
Jill really gave control to Abby just so her daughter can have a solo 😂😂😂. Like nick and Disney for a solo
@maggiegimenez7884
@maggiegimenez7884 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this episode for so long. Your content is soooooo awesome, congrats on your great vids :).
@lylavandusen
@lylavandusen Жыл бұрын
I’ve never been early to these! Love the vid so far !
@MT-xh4de
@MT-xh4de Жыл бұрын
I love your videos! They’re so interesting to watch, A suggestion would be to talk about Kira’s legal issues before the show since she always denies it.. Keep up the great work !
@SinDragon
@SinDragon Жыл бұрын
God it’s such an amazing day when mackzboss uploads!!!
@hey4506
@hey4506 Жыл бұрын
This season frustrates me because Holly should’ve left the show for Nia’s mental health. No child should have to constantly be berated and bullied by their own dance teacher. I understand that she wanted to teach Nia resilience but she should not be forced to take abuse to learn this lesson. I feel this way about all the girls but especially Nia due to her situation being so obviously racist
@TM9_
@TM9_ Жыл бұрын
The contracts from production played a huge role in them not leaving. Also, the girls were so close and at this point since they were all homeschooled, they didn’t really have anyone else to communicate with besides each other, so they liked that sense of emotional security. So while I agree that Nia and Holly should have left, I understand that there are reasons (even more than just the 2 I mentioned) why they didn’t want to and couldn’t.
@LuzMaria95
@LuzMaria95 Жыл бұрын
i agree.
@moonwalkerangel7008
@moonwalkerangel7008 Жыл бұрын
I do agree with the opinion.
@joaomacedo5849
@joaomacedo5849 Жыл бұрын
That's why I have trouble standing behind the "queen holly" people. Yes she was more level-headed than most other people on the show but she chose to stay the entire time
@oceanblue9122
@oceanblue9122 Жыл бұрын
@@joaomacedo5849Tbf, I think she just didn’t know much legally. Kelly almost got arrested getting herself and her kids out, and Christi found a loophole with a very good lawyer. I think Holly just didn’t know how to fight legally and then allowing Nia to make songs with Lifetime because she was so happy about it prob trapped them in even further
@vampgirl101rocks
@vampgirl101rocks Жыл бұрын
It just proves the other mothers did stick up for Holly and Nia, but they weren't going to jeopardise their own children to do it
@girlwithadream5608
@girlwithadream5608 Жыл бұрын
I think it was absolutely right decision for Nia to not dance after the argument at pyramid. Holly did the right thing standing up to abby for nia.
@Leelz247
@Leelz247 Жыл бұрын
I must be tripping, I thought this topic was covered here before! Still good work as usual!
@nicolesax17
@nicolesax17 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos! It's always so funny how my brain has blocked out sooooo much of Dance Moms. I guess my brain is trying to protect me from traumatic memories l0l
@shoyocult1999
@shoyocult1999 Жыл бұрын
i do think it’s interesting how holly said nia won’t be the new chloe or paige considering how she spoke about christie and chloe once they left. regardless. i am happy she stood up for nia and didn’t let her be sabotages. just tired of the hypocrisy.
@nolynnoel1032
@nolynnoel1032 Жыл бұрын
10:05 the cut from nia beaming with happiness to the rest of the girls miserable at the studio 💀
@macbest5
@macbest5 Жыл бұрын
Love ur channel
@KassidyLyn
@KassidyLyn Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video of “new Chloe” and the mom Kim in season 4? I feel like production had a huge part of the things Kim would say to the moms. I saw her as a villain but was she set up??🤔
@ckilbarger01
@ckilbarger01 Жыл бұрын
In all fairness, Nia's song, especially since Nia actually did some of the writing, was probably better than whatever song Abby had bought for her. Kendall's song just wasn't as memorable.
@amandamandamands
@amandamandamands Жыл бұрын
They were so different all the way through, the way they sound, music video all of it. Abby when she saw Nia's finished product wasn't nice about it saying she looked too old etc and that Kendall looked age appropriate. Will say that Nia looks older than 13 in her video but there isn't anything in it that is inappropriate.
@DrCrystalOlinger
@DrCrystalOlinger Жыл бұрын
This wouldn’t have gone down like this if Kelly and Christi were there! Jill and Melissa were cowards and controlled by Abby at this point and it shows.
@DrCrystalOlinger
@DrCrystalOlinger Жыл бұрын
@MackZ_Boss_Official_Chart No problem! These are all very interesting. I hope the Dance Moms see these. I would love their take,
@samiemily7467
@samiemily7467 Жыл бұрын
im still waiting for a nia unioffcial documentary 😕
@TiaMLE-jc5zk
@TiaMLE-jc5zk Жыл бұрын
Right. That would be interesting to see.
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
They were “so” loyal to Abby but left at the end of s6. Then left again in s7, because Abby wasn’t giving them enough attention. Now they all have gone no contact with her. Where’s the loyalty in that?
@carolinebrown8498
@carolinebrown8498 Жыл бұрын
why should they continue to be loyal to someone who has only berated and emotionally abused them?
@jeanienguyen1543
@jeanienguyen1543 Жыл бұрын
@@carolinebrown8498they shouldn’t have to, but i think op is just pointing out how it was easy for them to support abby over holly when it was in their favor and then they ended up leaving and doing their own thing too
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
@@jeanienguyen1543 exactly
@JennaeBradshaw
@JennaeBradshaw Жыл бұрын
@@carolinebrown8498 never said that
@CallMeKhari
@CallMeKhari Жыл бұрын
None of these women owe Abby any loyalty at all. So please cut the dramatics. Abby has given them her behind to kiss plenty of times and she deserved to be left right where she’s at.
@dabisbestie
@dabisbestie Ай бұрын
Im so surprised about Melissa's behavior in all of this lol.... She literally didn't care that holly was upset and instead, was getting impatient because she wanted Rehearsals to start.... She may have defended her a little bit, but honestly, it wasn't thst much. Its crazy how Melissa is still close with Nia today.....
@iweartrues
@iweartrues Жыл бұрын
i would love for you to do a series like this but jersey shore like under covered
@Gabbythebaker
@Gabbythebaker Жыл бұрын
I just watched this episode on Lifetime and half of this that Mack Z is explaining did not happen. The ALDC did compete against club dance, but it was not aired as that they did not air Tracy or Sarah coming in the dressing room, and they did not air that about club Dance coming in the moms not have a fight with Kira and jojo did not throw kalani under the bus.
@user-pz9jb2hw1p
@user-pz9jb2hw1p Жыл бұрын
Yeah these are the production notes, so all the stuff that happened not just the stuff that aired. That’s the literal point.
@Gabbythebaker
@Gabbythebaker Жыл бұрын
@@user-pz9jb2hw1p oh ok
@freetobree5323
@freetobree5323 Жыл бұрын
I feel like she could’ve still let Nia do her goodbye Maya routine
@maceasestefania1410
@maceasestefania1410 Жыл бұрын
I'm beyond shocked seeing Holly was the only one who wasn't afraid to stand up for her and for everyone while the other moms were just standing there and acting like Abby's behavior is okay.And if i were one of the dancers i would have immediately told my mom to get me out of that envionment and i would have had immediately called Abby out for her actions.And i wouldn't have cried when i would have gotten corrections.
@Izziexhads
@Izziexhads Жыл бұрын
Hi a video idea Abby has said that season 9 dance moms will be filmed on Monday I would love to hear about that!
@CAvideoFAN
@CAvideoFAN 6 ай бұрын
A $10,000 bribe to not work with Nia? That's disgusting!
@SmittenKitten.
@SmittenKitten. Жыл бұрын
I just don't know what I'd do if I had a child on the team. On the one hand, there's a lot of exposure and opportunities, but on the other, the psychological trauma associated with Abby's tactics would be long-lasting (perhaps permanent). There's a vast difference between hard coaching and abuse. On top of that, it's not like Lifetime is known for its generosity in terms of trying to terminate a contract, so once signed, it would take an act of God to get out of such a contract.
@SassyCactus86
@SassyCactus86 Жыл бұрын
Yo my girl Holly SNAPPED I can’t stand how much Kendall cries. Simply say it’s too tight. No need to cry about it.
@paulocosta795
@paulocosta795 10 ай бұрын
What if Wear em out was actually for Nia and it’s the song that they say Abby took away. That explains the tension between Jill and Holly this season.
@tonycorso5675
@tonycorso5675 Жыл бұрын
Yes of I'm happy that she did cus holly doesn't say or do much but at the same time would you want your daughter to sing bluegrass cus I heard that's what Abby wanted Nia to do, anyway I have Nia 2 songs on my play list and of course I also have Kendall's song from that time on my playlist too
@jules_leblanc22
@jules_leblanc22 Жыл бұрын
why didn't we get to see Tracey & Sarah in S5E6 it would've been great so we can see more and more drama.
@Thedarkestlilli
@Thedarkestlilli 2 ай бұрын
Wow what Nia went through is worse than I thought
@imibimihayward4133
@imibimihayward4133 Жыл бұрын
I am proud of holly for doing what she I really don’t like Abby anymore i love most of the girls if not all but I really love bia and holly they both are so strong and have really thick skin ❤
@stephhhsmiiith
@stephhhsmiiith Жыл бұрын
What happened with Payton?
@littledolldisneypreschool2086
@littledolldisneypreschool2086 Жыл бұрын
Hello!
@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah
@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah Ай бұрын
Aubrey talking about P. Diddy now in 2024… 🌚
@vishnujaglal3181
@vishnujaglal3181 3 ай бұрын
I know right
@o7summer_ber735
@o7summer_ber735 Жыл бұрын
That what i wondered to why holly did that holly like a kind respectful person 😮
@o7summer_ber735
@o7summer_ber735 Жыл бұрын
@MackZ_Boss_Official huh
@strawberrykiwiii
@strawberrykiwiii 11 ай бұрын
The way no one ever talks about Cameron :(
@jaydamay6815
@jaydamay6815 10 ай бұрын
the way the moms were talking sh1t about Holly even apart from what we saw on the show ?? it angers me that that part was true cuz I was hoping the moms would’ve had her back more behind the scenes .
@kenyawalls2255
@kenyawalls2255 Ай бұрын
What pills Melissa take where she just does nothing
@karolinasteampunk6655
@karolinasteampunk6655 Жыл бұрын
😊😊😊
@steventaylor1522
@steventaylor1522 Жыл бұрын
And from this video it seems that this episode was a lot worse than i thought it was
@TM9_
@TM9_ Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@chappy946
@chappy946 Жыл бұрын
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@porsharobinson463
@porsharobinson463 Жыл бұрын
With all the has been proven about Abby, people still allow their kids to be exposed to her. She is a truly disgusting individual and deserves everything coming her way. The dancers she has now, weren’t trained by her, she is just helping them get famous.
@Jakaisisksksk
@Jakaisisksksk 4 ай бұрын
Even though I think Christi and Kelly are racist they didn’t let Abby be mean
@Brittanyknuckles1427
@Brittanyknuckles1427 11 ай бұрын
God I can’t stand Jess. Cue the jess and Jojo stans coming for me in the comments but jess was unnecessarily mean during her time on dance moms.
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