She's acting honey.

Cool

@@chalkandcheese1868she wasn’t acting ALL the time… HONEY

She's a toxic person

@@corimoon3360 You fans make me laugh, you can't pick and choose which bits were fake or not depending on who you like or hate, it's reality TV honey, it's ALL fake.

She's Abby's lap dog. She's like Jill.

She was, and I hated how people would defend her coz she was quiet but he facial expressions said it all she also treated Chloe like crap, she didn't put the same energy in Chloes rehearsals like she did with Maddie, Kalani and even Kendall

@nataliepeters3560 and she agreed with everything Abby said at all times. When the moms were upset about the lack of classes, she had the same petty reaction. I think it was Ava's umbrella solo where she said essentially, "the prop and the solo go together. No prop, no solo," because Abby asked her "opinion". She literally has no mind of her own. People say she was just worried about doing her job, but Abby seems to be very fond of Gianna, and I'm sure that voicing an actual opinion wouldn't have gotten fired. Who knows, maybe she could have even helped the kids by getting Abby to be gentler with them. I have no respect for wallflowers or lap dogs.

​@@nevermindmyname813Gianna was trained by Abby since she was a little girl, started working at the ALDC at 18 and has not stopped since. She's been by Abby her whole life, so it's no wonder she blindly follows & backs whatever Abby says

@@speedy-gonzalex4627especially when she’s the one writing her paychecks and basically fueling her livelihood. I would do the same

That part!!

​@@JennaeBradshawI feel that was either edited or manipulated cause maddie literally won a national title at starbound there's no way she would say that about it

@@Amber.28. Who knows 🤷🏾‍♀️

So, spot on comment 😊😊😊 Shush 🤫

Lol spot on

Real

Yeah

Like when Kalani had a "Shades of Grey" solo during the peak of 50 Shades Of Grey

@@speedy-gonzalex4627 EXACTLY LIKE WHY??

Kinda off topic but Abby wanted to make another Brooke through kalani

Abby had a tendency to try to remake Brooke. Constantly forcing older guest dancers into contortion/acro solos when 1) acro isnt a style that's done by teens much at all 2) none of those dancers ever specialized in acro. Just showed how much she missed Brooke's talent@@elisvictoria163

Agree 100%. she had that ballerina mindset on dancers that their bodies should always look ‘underdeveloped’. Also remember when Abby said she liked Kalani bc she was “pretty and skinny” and then began criticizing her when she started to gain weight as anyone who is her age would.

Yup…..however, Abby also kind of sexualized her to. There was actually a clip (I forgot which episode and season) where Kalani had to dance on stage wearing a red bra, and black spandex and Abby said out loud to the moms that nobody would be looking at how Kalani was dancing….meaning they would be looking at her boobs, and when Kalani did go out on stage…..the audience looked shocked and uncomfortable. If the producers set that up (hiding Kalani’s costume) than that’s disgusting because the show had been known to attract unwanted attention specifically from grown men who had a fetish towards little girls (Brooke had a stalker that kept claiming that they were married when the show first aired, and Abby had to call the cops to the studio one time because a random man had showed up acting all crazy, just to see the girls) I think once it became obvious that Kalani was going through puberty, the producers decided to “show it off” by purposefully hiding her costume in that episode so she’d have to dance with her chest fully showing.

@@sarahgriep6213and considering how much these girls are dancing it’s clearly just puberty and Kalani’s hormones causing any weight gain

@@sarahgriep6213She also liked Brynn because she was “skinny and pretty”.

They're just doing their job.

nia and holly only stayed bc abby didnt want em there

@@chalkandcheese1868 Jill and Jess aren’t even friends neither is Kendall and Jojo

@@chalkandcheese1868 and if your job means you insult children for a living that’s pathetic

@@JennaeBradshaw How would you know whether they're friends or not?

This! And whenever parents try to defend her, that makes me think that they’d willingly put their own children in the hands of Abby or someone like her, and they wouldn’t care if their children were being mentally and verbally abused, because all they want is their kids to get ahead in life even if it’s at the expense of an abusive narcissist.

Fr and they say it was all the producers and not Abby at all

Things Abby did to Maddie? Making her a star? Giving special treatment? Never yelling at her or insult her? Protected her (in her own mind)? Allowed only her to do acting while filming DM but forbid anyone else from taking jobs? Melissa may pretend to ve full of regret now, but Abby has all rights to making Maddie. All the other girls that suffered made their OWN way and owe nothing. But unfortunately, no matter how you look at it, Abby made Maddie.

@@ndlamont01 none of Maddie’s success would be possible without sia she is also the one who helped them get out of the Aldc contract. Maddie suffered just as much as the other girls and to compare compare is low key disgusting. She forcibly kissed her, rubbed her inappropriately, cuddled with her in bed, isolated her from her friends, made her keep secrets so that she would be the only one Maddie would trust, tried to turn her against her sister and her mom, and tried to set her up a few times as well, made fun of her teeth, made fun of her acting. None of that is okay and Abby helping her doesn’t justify any of her actions period.

@@JennaeBradshaw So Sia randomly flew to Pittsburgh and picked out Maddie? Nope, according to the child predator Sia, she became obsessed with Maddie on DANCE MOMS with ABBY highlighting her. SIA walks the room NAKED with 11yr old Maddie (photos which were leaked) CUDDLES with her in bed (SIA, MELISSA, AND MADDIE have all confirmed), sleep in the same bed together (again this is a 40+yr old woman with an 11yr old child unrelated to her and did not grow up with her), and vowed to end her career if she couldn't work with Maddie bc Maddie gives her life according to Sia. But you're trying to take credit from Abby and give it to the Sia child predator?? 😆

I lasso hate how people use the excuse “well her parents should’ve pulled her” as if any of these fans know how a Hollywood contract truly works and she still left

@@JennaeBradshaw To be fair, it’s usually the brainless fans under 13 years old. The amount of disgusting nonsense I’ve seen these toddlers say is wild

It's Abby that should be grateful. It was the video Christi shot of the girls and mothers that got the producers interested in Abby because of the things the mothers mentioned in that video. Abby was never meant to be in the show.

Yes you’re so right! Abby deserves zero sympathy

let’s not forget how horribly she treats her black students too

I also wonder that as well? I think maybe Melissa may have apologized especially since Nia and Maddie were extremely close. However, I don’t understand with Jill. Hillbilly Jill was extremely disrespectful towards Holly and Nia from the very beginning.

@@JennaeBradshawyea I guess it was an apology. Even in 2014, Melissa loved nia. On the Zieglers afterbuzz , they all rant about how much they loved nia growth this szn and how much they love her. Maddie and Kenzie admitted that they and the other ogs used to leave nia out not on purpose but the Zieglers and her had gotten really close. It’s kinda shocking how s5 went but Melissa and Holly families are extremely close now. I mean even Kurt and Nia brother. It’s so weird to be honest 😭

​@@JennaeBradshawCalm down Karen, Holly was being just as antagonistic towards Jill in this episode as well, in other words, DOING WHAT SHE WAS PAID TO DO. They're all friends.

i still don't understand why people think this. when did melissa or jill ever blatantly get upset when nia got opportunities? i think they both put their own kids first and tried to get them ahead, but i remember them always congratulating nia on her music and achievements.

@@alex-ib6oy Jill being upset that Nias music video was out and saying how it overshadowed or when they went to Australia and Jill was like holly changed so much only because Nia was performing her song and nnt supporting the group dance she wasn’t invited to be apart of. Literally just watch s5 😂😂

Abby is just delulu

Are you saying Maddie had bad technique? Or just bad technique in her knee drops?

My knees were constantly bruised - it didn't matter the floor. I hated it so much because it was so embarrassing.

I don’t believe Abby on that, and it’s most likely because from watching that episode and the few afterwards….I don’t remember seeing any noticeable bruises on Maddie’s legs, and for her to have any bruises like that….she would’ve had to be doing plenty of knee drops. If it truly was the case that the floors at The Rage weren’t that good…..why didn’t they just go to another studio? When they first went to L.A. I don’t think they went to The Rage, I think it was another studio so unless it was the producers’ doing….they could’ve gone somewhere else.

@@JennaeBradshawshe might’ve had bad technique with her knee drops, but if that were the case….with every dance she did that contained a knee drop….she would’ve have some form of a noticeable bruise, unless her body wasn’t extremely sensitive.

@@tiamarrow6366 but they said it was during this season Maddie had lots of knee drops during the season and prior seasons. I think she also talked about Maddie ignoring an injury she had but I can’t remember where

This probably isn't true, the producers would have just made Cathy get a new team (again). From like season 2 onwards, the dancers on Cathy's team weren't actually her students, they were teams bought on for the show. The reason Abby didn't want to compete in the teen division is like because it's a lot harder to win, they mention it a lot in the show but maybe Abby didn't want to outright say it then because the mums would call her a coward or say she is degrading their children because they're not "good enough".

That honestly makes so much sense

i looked up the saying and it’s not sexual, but in the context of the dance it’s really bad. the saying is abt like riding a horse all day and then shoving it back in the stables without washing it or feeding it (saying she doesnt want kalani mistreated or used up then forgotten) the context of the dance being PLL which has a teen girl with a similar vibe to kalani being sexually abused by her teacher

Yea it’s kinda sad, I can understand certain levels of Jill’s frustration. Kendall is like right in the middle.. she gets more opportunities than most of the others but also way less than the “typical favorites” dancers

yeah i agree :(

Jill did this all the time and I think Kenzie did this coz they were trying to undermine Nia and Holly the whole time

Moms were annoyed Bc when Nia didn’t dance in the group Abby didn’t let her accept the award with the team

It was because earlier this season when Nia wasn’t in the group dance she wasn’t allowed to go up there with them.

@@whoisflosi1883exactly

Yup….Kelly even admitted that the products would do that mainly to stir up drama.

They always said they did.

Ooo this is a great video idea! All of the guests Abby brought on were very talented and had excellent technique

i just wish she gave those hating ass moms the silent treatment

It an old saying that's about tending horses. When a horse is run too hard and works up a sweat, you're supposed to do some cool down and grooming before putting them to stable, otherwise they can get sick and start looking unwell. Older people would use that phrase to mean someone who looked overworked and uncared for. But a child definitely wouldn't know the context and it does sound sexual if you don't know it's about horse care.

RIGHT like why do they even care? Wasn’t Kalani like a full fledged member of the group by this point? Abby loved her technique obviously she wasn’t going to never be in a group dance ever again lmao

Jojo just defended a child predator and claimed the victims were lying... she also vehemently defends Abby despite the fact she put a lot of children through emotional abuse. But sure, it's great that Jojo can jump around in glittery bows and sing pop songs to 4 year olds. In fact its actually terryfing that Jojo markets herself towards children and also defends child predators, kinda like how its ironic her brand is "anti bullying" yet she supports Abby.

@@lexiright5609 this comment was made before she claimed victims were lying.

@@franks_fiction I'm aware, but it wasn't made before Jojo defended Abbys actions/bullying.

@@lexiright5609 we don’t know their relationship behind the scenes or why she’s defending Abby. But my comment was the recognize that jojo was able to overcome a lot and it’s not something to discount.

@@franks_fiction We don't really need to know their relationship behind the scenes because Jojo publicly defended her, it doesn't matter why because I doubt Abby forced her too. please don't defend emotional abuse against children. After all the stuff Jojo has pulled she absolutely should have her "achievements" discounted. She defended a child predator and a child abuser, there's no coming back from that but I'm sure people will still try to take the blame off of her.

what exactly does that expression mean

I don't know either, English isn't my mother tongue

Hi, English speaker here it's extremely sexual too gross for me to want to explain honestly😅 she is fowl

@@briannacharles4948 there’s 2 meanings. One referencing how horses if not cooled down properly after horse back riding, can become physically exhausted and pant, the second meaning is piggy backing off the first but saying how the exhaustion comes from sexual indulgences. I think Abby was referring to the second one.

@@briannacharles4948she was basically slut shaming her, I’m assuming because she was curvy and looked “older” so Abby was sexualizing her

But she sure enough was able to insult children

@@JennaeBradshaw 100%

None of the mums were perfect, Kira repeatedly attacked children

Womp womp

There’s literally 2 meanings one being sexual and one not..

“NoT EveRyThInG iS SexUaL” said by a complete naive moron who really thinks words can’t have two meanings. Yes that phrase does have a sexual meaning and I’m SURE Abby wasn’t talking about no damn horses. Kind of weird how DEFENSIVE you became over it if anything…. 🫤

Ever heard of a double entendre?

​@@corimoon3360when I looked it up it said when your boss overworks you. There's also an urban dictionary version, but I don't think abby was using that definition. She could have, but we don't know for sure.

Ashlee was having family and marriage problems during the time

Mostly likely the influence of the producers, since that's how the siwas got on the show

Producers wouldn't let her. Abby and Jojo have admitted the producers made Jojo be part of the team and Abby hated it,

Because she was making fun of Jill saying Abby took things from Kendall, when Holly knows full well that Kendall has had lots of opportunities taken by Abby, including the season 2 nationals solo, the featured part in "The Bite" group dance, and apparently also Abby didn't even start to do anything for Kendalls music career until she saw that Holly was doing things for Nia's. It is a bit hypocritical for Holly to laugh about that when she always gets angry when Nia's opportunities are taken away. (Rightfully so of course, but she should be equally upset when it happens to another child too)

@@miriamstern6962I truly believe Holly showed her true colors from the end of S4 and onwards. She’s not the queen everyone says she is and I think it’s weird to idolize and pedestal-ize her so much. She has flaws like everyone else and they REALLY showed in the later seasons.

I definitely agree that Holly is not the "unproblematic queen" a lot of fans say she is, since no one is perfect and there were some things she said or did that were questionable or even downright wrong. However, you have to remember that by season 4 she had been on a toxic show for 3 or 4 years that encouraged people to fight and say awful things so I dont think it was her showing her "true colors" necessarily, but just the toxic environment getting to her. I still think shes a great mother and one of the better cast members on the show. @@corimoon3360

You don’t understand how Hollywood is then. Plus Jess explained by it’s not always a good idea to do that. If you’re trying to become an upcoming star especially in the dance world (the dance world has limited jobs) and you get picked for something whether it’s a commercial, music video, to be in a show, a movie, etc….but then your parent or whoever is taking care of you decides to pull you out….that looks bad on you. By your parent not allowing you to take the job, any potential talent scouts or people within the business who would’ve wanted to hire you….won’t want to hire you because you’d be known as the one person who’s parent wouldn’t let them. However, I’m pretty sure that whole issue was set up by the producers to create more drama. That’s something that can have actual repercussions in Hollywood where it makes it harder to get a job….Melissa and Jill didn’t willingly take Maddie, Kenzie, and Kendall out Abby made them (probably forced by the producers) because she couldn’t stand not being in control of the video. If you actually watch that clip to….everything that I’m saying will make sense. It’s not just about “my child, my say in the matter” it’s more so about “this is my child’s career”

@@tiamarrow6366 that's still none of holly, jess, and kira's business. They weren't mad cause Melissa and Jill potentially messed up their kids' future careers, but because they sided with abby instead of them. They were just being petty.

Yet Holly trashed and lied about Christi, Chloe, Kelly and Paige

@@kellymcquay2626 they literally confirmed that was scripted.

@@Cloud-ps2gn No they didn't

@kellymcquay2626 they did but ok.

@@Cloud-ps2gn Then using that logic your first comment is total BS, if it was scripted then the other Mothers weren't hypocrites or jealous .

I love Holly but why did she sit their and mock the situation 😭

Finally earning her paycheck

i always felt she was just as antagonistic as everyone else but got a free pass for whatever reason

She kept her kid in an environment of abuse. She's really not much better than the other moms.

@@jalapeno1119 absolutely agreed!!

You’re a blank profile on the internet with no room to judge. So, she’s miles ahead of you.

I think the same goes for everyone especially Jojo and Maddie. Why are you just singling one person out 🙄🙄🙄 you need to evaluate what you right because you kind of look a certain way and it is not good

Girl don’t start on maddie , maddie was already known before the show , and she’s the reason why “dance moms “ started because of her solo sunshine and Lolly pops

@@Kylaamponsaah I had no idea who Maddie was. Unless you are in America and most likely a dancer then you don’t know who Maddie is except for Dance moms and Sia which only fell into her lap because of dance moms. How is Maddie why dance moms started It started because of lifetime and Abby if it was Maddie it would have been the Maddie show and not focused on Abby’s studio and her dancers

​@@princesselizabeth653abby wasn't even supposed to be on the show originally and there's rumours of one of the producers watching maddie perform her 2010 solo