Yeah, and if he hadn't had the freedom he had then things would have turned out differently too - like if he'd been growing up thinking he had to achieve a certain thing he would have focused his experiences on that and done different things. Like with Lugh in Assassin Aristocrat - if he didn't have the mission he was reincarnated for, he probably wouldn't have wanted to be an assassin again in this life and would have done totally different things, but for his story he has to have that goal forced on him. Rudeus doesn't have any external forces directing how he lives his life, until he gets a boss!

Given the fact that Rudeus (soul) summoning was coincidence, when u think about it, Paul's family life was tragic in the proper timeline... Their first son was stillborn, and it would take another 5 years before Zenith conceive another baby. And when it does, their maid was also pregnant. Imagine how heartbroken Zenith was...

@@bervirus and without advice and discussion from Rudy that helped them get through with all that

Lol, Rudeus fucked up the whole prophecy

@@NatalieXHunter That actually brings up a good point to mind. What if Rudeus HAD been summoned properly and suffered the same fate as the young boy who was summoned? The specific nature of him being a complete anomaly in how the world itself works that the world initially fought was what gave him the opportunity to make the changes he did. I hope the people who summon learn that summoned people don't really have magic and I assume can't learn other skills that are seemingly unique to this world that otherwise wouldn't be possible on earth and stop expecting them to be heros lol pretty dark fate there. But maybe they went down with the kingdom so it might not matter.

Yes, exactly - it's explained a bit more in the video about Orsted.

Stopping to think I remembered about the destiny thing in Mushoku tensei Rudeus has a very strong destiny which basically is that he cannot die until he is old, so anyone who threatens your life in one way or another Rudeus will make it out alive so Nanahoshi's business was destiny trying to make Rudeus not die?

@@Lipe326 the destiny thing doesn't mean he can't die it means hitagami cant do something to directly change their lives for example rudeus kids are supposed to help Osrted that thing cant change even if rudeus tries to interfere but Hitogami still can kill them all like in the bad timeline

Orsted neared messed everything up by almost killing Rudeus. First rudeus seemed to trust him very easily at their first meet. He didn’t even trust man god at first meet, he felt man god was up to no good.

plus its the only one timeline where rudeus at. its like having a bug to win against hitogami

Basically setting up for the typical fantasy story that Rudy thought he was going to get.

Rudeus is such a good wingman he's putting in work from beyond the grave

@Da Contradiction If I remember correctly two boys were fighting with Nanahoshi before Rudeous saved them from Truck kun, Subaru hitting his head and not remembering properly the events that led him to another world would not be too out there for me if it tied the worlds together lol.

@Da Contradiction wait.....they both are connected?

Yup the title literally makes sense to me now As it is literally a "jobless" reincarnation He wasnt forced on anything (to save the world and stuff) He was just accidentaly summoned there to live his own life as he wanted to

I like it too. It was also a subversion of expectations back when isekai subversions weren't as common. You'd expect someone reincarnated into another world to be someone special, but nope, this was just an accident. His story is significant mostly due to his own efforts.

It's a really cool concept and kinda like Re:Zero, it's extremely motivating without trying to be. It's very fluid and natural and it really makes you question yourself and your own outlook on life, even if you're not necessarily doing bad in life, but not striving to the goals you know you could push towards, for plenty of reasons. Shows like MHA, however, kinda throw stuff like that right out in your face and they don't try to find subtle ways about it. Both methods have their ups and downs. I just really appreciate the road less traveled that shows like this take and how much thought and effort it requires. I guess from my perspective it's a matter of "the beauty is in the simplicity" meeting "the devil is in the details", and Natalie somehow finds a way to make it all palatable for us to understand and develop our own opinions and thoughts.

Wholesome

The thing I find interesting is that Rudeus isn't directly involved in the most important events in the Mushoku Tensei universe but he's the catalyst for these important events to transpire and the necessary individuals involved in these events.

@@burck6113 I find it pretty interesting that both Mushoku Tensei and Re:Zero have a main character that are in the center of a time loop that affects both past and future.

the diary cant travel to time for Orsted he is in a loop, rudeus travel to time is two different things

@@roggonval That's not the point. Orsted's relying heavily on memory because he can't leave a diary. But he only has to rely on himself keeping track of the details and making sure certain events line up. Rudeus' existence has thrown everything out of whack. Even so, certain events remain critical, and must be maintained. Orsted's memories are no longer reliable in this regard. He needs to write down what needs to happen, how Rudeus has changed the circumstances, and how they can be corrected. Of course there's always the more important reason to write a diary. "Today, a little girl rode my shoulders, pulled my hair and called me papa. It felt good to not hated."

Orsted changes the timeline as well though he trys not to alter it to much but I have a theory that his actions caused something new to happen because realistically he's the only one who can change the timeline indirectly

Or having a argument with their girlfriend before getting hit by a truck

The assassin Isekai show that after 500+ summons of people with different expertise which famous on Earth, you will bound to get a good one. That's why many dark Isekai just summon lots and lots and lots of people over, majority of them will die, but you only need 1 or 2 at the end.

Or even worse if they end up being skilled but bad persons, or you end up mistreating them and they come up with a vengance

Idk man i kinda need to isekai someone into our world

@@morgenstern7865 if it's a demon, get rid of them by making them work in fastfood

Wait so rudeus isnot main protagonist ???🤔

@@mr.savagetube8661 he is the protagonist of Mushoku Tensei, since he is the story we follow, but in yhe grand scheme of things or better said, in the story of the world, he was just a side character with a unique and interesting story. For the grand story (the cause of the teleportation event, the summoning that happened in the past and in the future, what caused changes in the timeline of the loop for the dragon god, the reason of the summoning) when all is said and done, rudeus really wasnt supposed to play a part in any of that. The story of the world is how someone sent someone to the past to prevent a tragedy. The story of Mushoku Tensei is how someone used that as an opportunity to live a second life Both interesting, related stories, but one has a bigger scale while the other is just personal.

This is what I think is very lacking with numerous Isekai story, especially ones with cultivation concepts(WuXia/ManHwa/ManHua). They just relying on badass stoic morally correct mf without any substance.

@@vogel2499 I call this type of stories MCU type stories, many stories collide, wether its through different series (Toaru Franchise) or in the same series (Every single season of Fate having multiple important fleshed out characters).

Rudeus’ story ended with a bunch of few adventures and boom,we’re done. Holy shit can we like only see him till he’s 24? This could’ve been way longer but way more despressing when we’d see this bish Lara taking over the mc title

Legendary foreshadowing

That moment explains why Perugius have a petty hatred towards Orsted

He is also kind of right. It explains one of Orsted’s main faults. He lives too far in the future (one that doesn’t exist now) that he loses sight of what matters in the moment. It actually manifests in a pretty big error on his part in the decisive battle. He kind of does belittle the present and pays very little heed towards the past experiences of others. Rudy helps anchor him and helps him build the resolve to trust more in the people he has now towards a loop of uncertainty….which is arguably a factor in the future narrative.

@Tooopper That can also imply Hitogami since Hitogami's ability is to see the future while forgetting the present. Hell Orsted is actually kinda friendly, he calls the people who help him his comrade, he felt indebted by Norn since she helped him in the previous loops. Perugius just have a petty hatred towards Orsted. It's kinda imply that Perugius hatred towards Orsted, was because Orsted knows things that Perugius doesn't. (Well that just my interpretation on the part when they try to help bring back Nanahoshi to her world)

@@caleb_artzs2533 He also purposefully omits the dying superd tribe to Rudy and Ruijerd despite their deep interest in finding it to…well….save time. Because of that, he loses an almost indispensable asset. Also in comparison to Rudy and the gang, his mercilessness towards Hitogami apostles could have resulted in Luke’s death since he’d rather air on the killing side of caution, despite Luke being important to Ariel and Luke’s ability to be reasoned with. He also would have killed Rudy mercilessly if it weren’t for Nanahoshi’s intervention, which would have costed him the greatest asset so far. He is friendly. He is amicable. He is even generous. A lot of his decisions (like the superd tribe) are informed by caution and failures after good honest attempts….but that’s exactly my point. He’s stuck viewing things too far ahead and sometimes fails to see what he has now and what’s important now. That’s why him pulling out his sword (which will harm in him in the future if he doesn’t compensate) against Alex saying that he wants to fight believing in his comrades’ ability to help him is a huge thematic moment. It’s him accepting a new future of unknowns and the role trusting wholeheartedly in the power of others plays in it. Perugius does hate him for being a know it all and referring to fate….but it’s also thematically an insult towards Orsted’s state of mind. Perugius’ work with Nanahoshi, despite not working in the end, his mindset and work is what allowed Nanahoshi to substantiate a theory that is crucial to understanding the time loops….but it’s also petty. Things can be multifaceted. That’s one of the themes in the story, to not view things myopically.

@@Tooopper In defense of Orsted, he's pretty much like Okabe Rintarou from Steins; Gate by the time the series start, he's being that for so long that he's basicaly just going throught the motions and doing some adjustments to see what sticks. Rudy and Nanahoshi ends up being his Mayuri and Co.

Well, I did do a spoiler free video yesterday, but it was about JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

I always say the tale is in the telling so I read/hear spoilers and it doesn't usually hurt my experience.

Not really. If the story is doing it’s job, spoilers don’t matter, the experience does.

The LN's and to a degree the WN's are a good read. I enjoyed the first episodes so much that during the break between pt 1 and 2 of the Anime I bought the translated LN's and finished off with the WN's because I couldn't get enough of the story. Took me all of 1 month to read through it all but am a fast reader. In short its worth it to read too to get ahead and see what is skipped in the anime (quite a bit)..

I usually forget spoilers soon after I hear them until they come up again. I am glad I have this odd quirk

I really like Nanahoshi too. I feel bad for her though - everything else in her body stops changing but she can still put on weight if she enjoys all the food Rudeus brings her! That's some bad luck!

@@NatalieXHunter Truly a tragic catastrophe

@@NatalieXHunter Spoiler: at least she doesn’t have to worry about hair unless she loses it since it doesn’t grow back. Interesting to compare the 2 isekai characters. If her partner, wants to stay she will have to leave without him

She might want to stay after whatever happens later. Or she might die. We don't even know what will happen!

@@NatalieXHunter ya who knows. She could join the harem or die. The new protagonist has a lot of options so it’s hard to decide who he would end up with (assuming it’s Akhihito)

Nah it’s a lot more simple than that

Yeah, maybe she just gets born in every one of his loops and her power means she remembers the world before it was reset. That makes a lot of sense.

But then her wish wouldn't have had the capacity to cause the mana calamity. If her powers are just memories, that's a whole different concept than actual time travel. Unless her simply being in Orsteds time loops meant she was somehow connected to him or his abilities and then she could have some kind of manipulative ability but it's a stretch

Nah, her power does manipulate time - it just rewinds it by up to a day. Burning out that power with her wish forces the time reset in the end. But her living the same life over and over and remembering her deaths could just be that she is born in every (or many) Orsted loops, but because she's special she retains memories of other loops.

@@burck6113 Some superpowers can't work in vacuum. Superspeed is bad if you don't have super reflexes and durability bear G force. Laser eyes are useless if they aren't also heatproof ect. And if your "superpower" is rewind time you need retain memories when time is rewinded. And idea is that this "secondary superpower" work whenever time is rewinded regardless whether she does 1 day rewind or Orsted "curse" does 200 years rewind.

one thing i wonder about also is orsted loop is artificially created thru a technique or magic created while the miko is a natural phenomenon. i wonder if a natural magic( like a miko curse) or artificial one is of the same strength and capacity, which would take precedence??

Same

Hmmm, that's interesting. I'd been buying into the theory that the Miko doesn't actually loop herself, she's just born in every Orsted loop and unlike everyone else, retains memories of the last loop. We see that the Miko doesn't know much about the world outside, and so was presumably very sheltered, so it would seem plausible that Orsted maybe didn't know about her - when she resets time by 24 hours he presumably would never know this had happened, so her activities could be kept secret. But by your theory, the loop (for the Miko) where Akihito was summoned is the same loop as the current loop (where she's reborn without powers) for Orsted, and in this one case it was her that forced the reset so everything that came later was forgotten by Orsted even if he did know about it. That makes a lot of sense.

@@NatalieXHunter Dang! Crazy if its true. Rifujin really big brain in this one

@@NatalieXHunter actually believe it or not Orsted does know about the Milo as he told rudeus in vol 17 or 18 of the LN but he only knows she can rewind an object's time

I don't know if it really implies anything about Earth's time - nobody tried to summon Akihito in any other loops so we don't know if that would have happened if they had. But since the Miko's wish was a one time thing she wouldn't have been able to open the rift more than once, because she's lost her powers after that, so we can never really know if it could have worked. It seems unlikely that things affecting time in the six-sided world would affect Earth too but that doesn't mean they couldn't be accessing Earth in the past or future in the first place, iykwim, so could possibly take the same Rudeus, Akihito and Nanahoshi from that point in time regardless.

Bless her heart she was a sort of unvoluntary orsted

In Another Eden mobile game, the MC is *Spoiler* Exist as the main character you control, the old man which the Dream Master and the grow up version as bartender at the End of Time. Basically you can't even tell the chicken and the egg scenarios since the MCs exist in the same timeline as 3 different roles, so who start the cycle? Or simply multiple MC from different parallel worlds converge into one. That's the point of Time Travel and Dimensional Travel, anything is possible. So I am not surprised if Rudeus can travel to the future with his wives and we will Sequel of them hunting down Hitogami.

@@johnwong5317 *spoiler* Rudy is dead at the end of mushoku tensei jobless reincarnation having lived a good and fulfilling life. The sequel according to the author will follow the story of his children, with that being said it's hinted that Rudy will still be a character just not the main character or focus, and it's been stated before that his story is over.

I think we're reading too much into that prophecy. Or not enough. "If you summon a hero, the kingdom will be saved," is not the same as "You must summon a hero who will save the kingdom." *NONE* of them was the hero who would save the kingdom. They were all just parts of the mechanism that would change the world in such a way that the kingdom could be saved. Akihito was the motivation to allow the Playback Miko to change the world, Rudeus and Nanahoshi and the time-space rift were the the changes the Playback Miko wrought that enacted that change. I hope the Playback Miko gets a good life this time, and that it's her last life, but that's not what the prophecy was about. The prophecy was about providing her the motivation to actually do something meaningful this time, rather than just living as a puppet of the kingdom which would be constitutionally incapable of motivating her to do anything out of the ordinary (for her) even if it knew it had to. And I can't help feeling like the Playback Miko is actually caught up in Orsted's time loop, and the only way she can actually escape is to have Orsted finally win. She's just somehow aware of having to re-live her life every time, probably because of her natural time manipulating gift. Which means that by summoning Rudeus, however inadvertently, she may have finally set the stage for her own escape from her hellish life.

@@cgecko3 Well, this series is inspired by Dragon Quest 5 and if you played DQ5, you will learn that later half of the game, you control the 3rd generations to rescue the 2nd generations from de-petrification. Not to mention like I said from Another Eden, anything is possible so don't be so sure about anything.

Btw this is like the original isekai that inspired all of the others

Awww, thanks!

Yes, I know, that was 'the other time related thing I didn't mention' I spoke of at the end of the video. I'm going to do another video about that but this one already included way too much complicated time stuff, and explaining everything that happens in a story that's a couple of million words long in one video isn't really possible lol.

@@NatalieXHunter True. Tbh. I was actually pretty durprised by how time travel was handled in this series. Tbh tho, I'm curious about that ReZero theory you mentioned.

Spoiler: Technically aren’t all kids immune to Hitogami as kids from thenisekai protagonist Rudy who isn’t from their world

@@rajvirmalhans2073 they are, since they're all inmune to orsted's curse as well

@@abnercamacho5505 but they still can me appointed as one of his 3 apostles and can be manipulated the old school way

Hope you like it!

Awwww cool! Glad they help!

Nanahoshi's spell didn't really have anything to do with it, that just failed because the future takes priority over the past so she can't go back yet. But other than that yeah, it was more or less that. Took me 4k words to explain it though somehow haha!

@@NatalieXHunter No, what I meant was just the timing of it all, not that it actually had anything to do with what happened. Like I said, a clusterfuck of coincidences that, whether or not they actually had an effect aside from being a thing that happened at the time.

I feel it's less a 'cluster of serendipity' and more 'time is relative.' All things being true. Summoning event similar to Ni no Kuni occurs (near death causing world sliding) [Come up with a reason why Akihito would be picked in that instant, this seems very isekai] Akihito is pulled in, that puts a great strain on the world. Things happen, now Nanahoshi is attempted to be pulled into the world, due to Akihito now existing in the timeline, the world pushes back on being #2. In 'earth' time this would be likely within the same instant due to proximity to Akihito. (Pretend a hole appeared where he was) As Nanahoshi is pulled in, a freshly loosened soul is there. Nanahoshi, being a 'body' gets blocked, the soul arriving with her ping pongs around and finds somewhere to land. This essentially solves the 'timing' issue of somehow 3 people arriving at wildly different times. The only coincidence would be the summoning happening at a time relative to Earth's, as 'Rudy' dies the first time. (basically 2 arrive at the gate at the same time, but only one gets in due to a lack of physical state) Potentially if he wasn't there, Nanahoshi would just be stuck on the boundary between worlds.

Well it's never confirmed the other kid died and in the anime he is out right fine as seen on ep1.

There were 3 kids. Nanahoshi, Akihito, and one other guy whose name I forget. It's that third guy who is OK in ep 1. Nanahoshi and Akihito didn't die, anyway - they were summoned as they were, so they just disappeared. Only Rudeus' former self died.

Much appreciated!

I think Akihito will be the protagonist, Lara will probably be important too, being the savior and all (I think the person she leaves to go and find in the end of Redundancy will be Akihito), obviously Orsted, Perugius, Laplace when he gets reincarnated, other new gen characters like Norn and Ruijerd's daughter... Elinalise probably given that if she figures out what we know from Old Dragon's Tale she could help Orsted. I don't think anyone from the past who should be dead will be in it because this is so strongly suggested to be 'the final loop', and anyone sending themselves to the future would have to have already done it in some way (like the Dragon God sending Orsted to the future or Laplace having things in place for his own reincarnation). Plus I think characters like Rudeus and Eris will just be allowed to have finished their stories and died, rather than being brought back - it just wouldn't fit the meaning of their stories for them or any of the other human lifespan characters to be brought back iykwim...

@@NatalieXHunter I haven't caught up on the WN but isn't half of Rudeus and in turn Eris life explained very little. Like it skips from their 30s till the end which I thought maybe is done on purpose to come back later for something but it could be just a way to move on to the main story, maybe I'm thinking into it too much lol.

I do think we will have flashbacks from Lana when she was growing up and maybe other characters. We might actually know what she feels and thinks

Also Roxy and Sylphiette should still be alive although old. Lily should help with technology and gear maybe

Yeah, I don't think that means they're coming back - they had proper endings, and especially given Rudeus' final interaction with Hitogami I think it would actually take something away from the point of his complete second life if he is made to come back. I think those characters were supposed to live their lives, die with no regrets, and leave everything in the hands of the future, thematically speaking, so it'd feel cheap if they actually didn't and pop up and fight in the final battle or something.

Glad you think so!

Wow, thank you!

Akihito is kinda like Subaru in that he's gonna arrive in this world and there's already some magical lady he doesn't know who is for some reason in love with him... Only he'll also have his girlfriend he last saw two minutes ago but she's been living there for 80 years... Pretty mad. Can't actually wait to see his story play out!

@@NatalieXHunter and the title is gonna be "that time i got summoned to another world, but my girlfriend is over 80 years old" lmao

LOL, well she kinda isn't really, because she doesn't physically age and is in suspended animation apart from one day a month, so after the first few years she only experiences 12 days a year... She'll end up like Emilia with 3 different ages... Looks 17. Been alive 80. Life experienced, maybe about 27.

Well, the author of Re:Zero and Jobless Reincarnation are good friends, so that's where all the ideas come from. Orsted is basically Re:Zero after Subaru lives thousands of years in loop.

@@NatalieXHunter so determination of an adult and curiosity of a child?……or a cat.

That's really weird! I'm sure I've released two videos in 24 hours before, but it's kinda bad that it did that given the JoJo's video is fine for anybody to watch but this one is huge spoilers!

I read a bit of Eris' POV in the new video I'll have up later today!

Yessss, today's episode is going to be so good! I'm working on a video about Orsted that'll come out this evening!

explanation: 17:24 to 23:28

Well, he should meet Nanahoshi anyway - she will still be alive. So she'll be able to tell him first hand about it all.

@@NatalieXHunter True, Nanahoshi was kept in a time stasis hoping one day she can meet her friend again.

I really like spoilers too, tbh!

@@NatalieXHunter depending on the show and how they are used, they can enhance the enjoyment

Yay, thank you! Hope you enjoy the series as much as I do!

@@NatalieXHunter I couldn’t stop laughing at Sylphiette attacking Paul

Thank you too!

Yes, I will do a miko video, but I think people are going to be more interested in Orsted and Nanahoshi related content for the next few videos *for some reason* :)

Ah, OK, I didn't know that.

now that's ironic

The times do not coincide, since Aisha was born in 413 and the Rebirth Miko was born after 500, and she is also human, so I doubt that her life expectancy is enough to be the magic knight who activated the circle, she could be the one who created it, but not the person who was with the Rebirth Miko at the moment of invoking Shinohara.

Well, I even read out a bit of the novel near the end so you can count that as a bed time story :D

If Subaru had arrived with the advantages the Dragon god gave to Orsted he'd have a much easier time... Though everyone would hate him so he'd be a lot lonelier!

Thank you! 😃

In every other loop Orsted lived through Zenith and Paul's first child was stillborn, so Rudy didn't take the place of another person who would have lived.

@@NatalieXHunter stillborn?

@@johanstenfelt1206 It's not an in universe term. The baby didn't survive to delivery.

Rudeus's story was always intended to be 'the beginning of the end' - the 'fate of the world' type conflict will be in the sequel, but none of it could work without Rudeus. That doesn't make it less of a complete story, given the point is to show someone living a complete second life and making the most of those chances, not someone saving the world. The fact Rudeus wasn't a chosen one is actually more interesting than if he was - everything changes in this world because of him, but only because he decided not to waste his second chance at life. If he hadn't cared about that and had just chilled and had a normal childhood, instead of pushing himself to learn magic etc at a young age, then Roxy, Sylphy and Eris' fates would not have been changed, the world would still have resisted the rift, and the world would remain unchanged other than having just one more general dude in it. ETA, one of the most common comparisons is to The Hobbit - one guy's adventure story that happens before the more 'epic' events of LoTR.

Yeah, it's all quite complicated to explain - I gave it my best shot!

Yeah, I agree with that.

Wait till you see some of the Christmas themed outfits and stuff I have lined up for closer to Christmas lol!

Na it's the other way around the other story happened because he existed

His story is about what he did with a second chance in life. What he left behind, his descendents and legacy are side effects that becomes a part of the "sequel". He live his life with his own choices no destiny of being "chosen" was being force on him and thats it. In the overall story he may not be the MC but he was important he lived trying and overcoming things in life rather than waste it like his previous one

@@playphasebutton2113 you are missing the point I was trying to make. Why was rudeus born in the first place? Because of someone else’s story in a now alternate reality. That in itself is fine. But then instead of having this event play a role in the story of Rudeus, the series is relegated the role of prequel to explain why the reality of our new main character is so different between the last timeline and current timeline. Not the other way around. So our MC is not this game changing character but more an abnormality that affects the real characters of the story. At least that’s my perception of it. Not hating, but I don’t like this type of story telling. I prefer when the MC is the key to the universe they live in. Just personal preference.

He was the father of what's about to come. He had left his legacy.