Why DODGE Was FORCED To Kill The Viper - Everything You NEED To Know

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The Dodge Viper was the KING of Chrysler for 25 years. It was the underdog American exotic that no other car for the money could touch.
So what happened? What killed the Viper? Was it the side curtain airbag problem? Was it a cultural shift? Perhaps it was the executives and shareholders? - Maybe it was all of the above.
Or maybe it was the Demon.
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@R19Robbin
@R19Robbin Жыл бұрын
I would take a viper over a challanger any day
@Gh0st_m5
@Gh0st_m5 Жыл бұрын
Bruh I want both 😂
@notabot9401
@notabot9401 Жыл бұрын
Every fucking day
@paulsandvig6961
@paulsandvig6961 Жыл бұрын
I second this motion!!
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 Жыл бұрын
Ur weird, challenger or Corvette all day over this widowmaker
@paulsandvig6961
@paulsandvig6961 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 it’s called driver skill bud… if u can drive the viper ur a beast cuz u don’t need ur traction control and stability control n the list goes on…
@mrdinomyt6631
@mrdinomyt6631 Жыл бұрын
The demon is cool in it's own right, but there's more to racing than just a straight line.
@flicksifyr6793
@flicksifyr6793 Жыл бұрын
Not in America. Theres only drag strips here. Sadly we dont have our own nurburgring
@destroyerarmor2846
@destroyerarmor2846 Жыл бұрын
Americans called driving in a left turn all day a sport
@flicksifyr6793
@flicksifyr6793 Жыл бұрын
@@destroyerarmor2846 Facts that shit was so boring i dont know how anyone could sit and watch that for hours
@GoodOlRoll
@GoodOlRoll Жыл бұрын
@@destroyerarmor2846 at least the cars can pass without DRS lol
@GoodOlRoll
@GoodOlRoll Жыл бұрын
@@flicksifyr6793 at least they can actually pass eachother without assistance from DRS
@Miskamandariini
@Miskamandariini Жыл бұрын
we miss viper we love viper
@bsmitley
@bsmitley Жыл бұрын
Purchased my gen 3 Viper two years ago and have zero regrets. Going to get a different gen next and hopefully have all 5 gens before I retire 🐍
@contractor556
@contractor556 Жыл бұрын
I’m a poor… can I live vicariously through you please
@LawnMower-jv8hg
@LawnMower-jv8hg Жыл бұрын
Can I drive one
@parasitizeneuron1893
@parasitizeneuron1893 Жыл бұрын
Contractor 556 😂😂😂
@jimdevlin4949
@jimdevlin4949 Жыл бұрын
Can I be your car washer?😂
@contractor556
@contractor556 Жыл бұрын
@@parasitizeneuron1893 lol
@playboysolrac
@playboysolrac Жыл бұрын
To me, the Viper was better all around as it was very well balanced. It had great performance, styling, and super stable on the road. It’s been so long since the Viper has been out of the game that if Dodge decides to bring it back, it’s gonna sell like hot cakes to all the nostalgic fans with deep wallets lol
@Mystical_Zeus
@Mystical_Zeus Жыл бұрын
The viper wants to kill you idk what you're talking about being stable on the road.
@kibawhitefang7176
@kibawhitefang7176 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t heard - the price was out of reach to regular people, and those who can, why bother? There’s better options out there for the money. Besides, American cars are literally made in Mexico.
@Mystical_Zeus
@Mystical_Zeus Жыл бұрын
@@kibawhitefang7176 You're just so wrong on so many levels I won't bother, its only mostly chevy but please, continue to spew bs.
@kibawhitefang7176
@kibawhitefang7176 Жыл бұрын
@@Mystical_Zeus Right, cause you’re unable to back it up? I understand.
@Mystical_Zeus
@Mystical_Zeus Жыл бұрын
@@kibawhitefang7176 I did back it it. I sid it's mostly Chevy. You're wrong. I can prove it by the fact that the cars aren't actually made in Mexico. Maybe you were though.
@powerboatguy2308
@powerboatguy2308 Жыл бұрын
The Viper, like the Demon were never made to make money with their own sales, they were both halo cars and served their purposes to bring brand excitement. There are a lot of SXTs and RTs out there now as a result.
@powerboatguy2308
@powerboatguy2308 Жыл бұрын
@Milo Jones Yeah, it is a Halo car, it itself was never intended to be a windfall no more than the Ford GT is for Ford. Those cars, like the Demon are to raise the sales of the rest of the offerings and draw attention. I doubt Chevy makes any money off the few ZR1s it will sell, but when Iit rolls out it will get a lot of press, helping sell the lower trim Vettes and other Chevrolets. It's a very good business model when you consider the attention the Demon and Viper brought Dodge who's sales used to be way behind the other companies.
@vitreo1363
@vitreo1363 Жыл бұрын
@@powerboatguy2308 And yet Dodge can't sell the Viper. Maybe because Dodge could never figure out how to build the brand.
@powerboatguy2308
@powerboatguy2308 Жыл бұрын
@@vitreo1363 I don't think so because the Viper was alive for years after the Challenger came back (which they marketed brilliantly). It just was very powerful, hardcore car that was not built for being a Daily driver. The earlier versions of the Viper had zero traction control, did not have door locks and had sidee xhaust that could burn you to the bone if you brushed up against it. The later version of the Viper was was more refined but out of reach of most people like the Corvette ZR1 (the regular Corvette, which I owned was very drivable day to day). I think Viper paved the way for Dodge to bring the Hemi roaring back as it was an image car, just like the Ford GT and GT500 is for Ford. these cars are not for the masses due to price. Unlike the Corvette, there was never an entry level for the Viper, they all were powerful regardless of trim.
@jasonu3741
@jasonu3741 Жыл бұрын
The Demon is no Halo Car The Demon is the factory equivalent of the suped of Civic from the late 90s early 00s
@Texarmageddon
@Texarmageddon Жыл бұрын
@@powerboatguy2308let’s be serious… there were a lot SXTs, SRTs, and RTs before the demon was released…. The hellcat was the car to make that happen…. The demon not so much
@TheTruKing0321
@TheTruKing0321 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the Viper should return for one last run. I mean they are doing it with the Challenger and Charger I believe. That doesn’t mean I want a Viper EV 😂😂😂
@bigmemer4398
@bigmemer4398 Жыл бұрын
Limited run hybrid v10 Make it as insane as possible 😂
@TheTruKing0321
@TheTruKing0321 Жыл бұрын
@@bigmemer4398 that would actually be pretty sick actually 😂😂
@benbustama3430
@benbustama3430 Жыл бұрын
Owned three (‘02, ‘06, & ‘10) Vipers! The ‘02 had a lot of annoyances! It got too hot, interior was hot & cramped, and it’s front lip spoiler was too low to the ground. The ‘06 & ‘10 were a huge improvement! I miss em! Bring it back, Stellantis!
@The_Hulkster
@The_Hulkster Жыл бұрын
The amount of disrespect from Stellantis is baffling. I sold my Hellcat and my 03' Viper. I've jumped ship from Mopar.
@jeffbartley9730
@jeffbartley9730 Жыл бұрын
Front lip spoiler? You mean splitter
@xXturbo86Xx
@xXturbo86Xx 7 ай бұрын
Never gonna happen. Sellantis is a giant that's focusing only on making mass production shit that make money. Not special exotics.
@kenheimbachjr1901
@kenheimbachjr1901 Жыл бұрын
What they need to do is push the viper and its engine to the extreme and do a demon version
@Cesar-ey3bf
@Cesar-ey3bf Жыл бұрын
I'd trade my challenger for a viper anyday. But tbh it would be nice to see the viper evolve into something like a rear mid engine platform. Maybe its time to revisit the ME Four-Twelve and start from there
@Shoota027
@Shoota027 Жыл бұрын
the ME 4twelve thats a name i haven't seen in a while
@mikeoxlong6351
@mikeoxlong6351 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that is unlikely because Fords Former CEO took over Chrysler a couple years ago and is steering it towards full electrification. Dodge can do something with it since they are the performance brand of FCA, but that’s unlikely as well..
@matinval6500
@matinval6500 Жыл бұрын
NO WE NEED THAT FRONT ENGINE
@BR-559
@BR-559 Жыл бұрын
@Cesar, what would you think, instead of mid engine, the evolve form would turn into a Viper GTS-R (concept, but Google it if you haven’t heard of it) because that would’ve been a great evolve form but with a V12! Mid engine, I see a lot of negative feedback due to Chevy turning the Corvette mid engine, even though, though they got their fairly share of negative feedback but made it work. I can’t fathom a Viper mid engine but yet, I Corvette either.
@comradeyuri8492
@comradeyuri8492 9 ай бұрын
Hell Dodge didn't even update the Dodge cars much less keep building them !
@Graves-81_69
@Graves-81_69 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to dream cars the Viper is at the top of my personal list on the American manufacturer side. I had all of the model cars back in the early and mid nineties, and in “Road and Tracks Need for Speed” (that’s right, it all started as a Road and Track game) i always raced the Viper. In part 2 i usually ran the McClaren F1. Are there other folks out there that remember those games on the PC, PlayStation and 3DO?
@IdealMediaChannel
@IdealMediaChannel Жыл бұрын
Trav here - I drove that blue RT/10 probably a million virtual miles! Loved that game! Thanks for watching 👍
@Graves-81_69
@Graves-81_69 Жыл бұрын
@@IdealMediaChannel hell yeah man! Thanks for the video and replying!
@Alp577
@Alp577 Жыл бұрын
Viper GTS, Mclaren F1 GTR, Lamborghini Diablo SV, and Mercedes CLK GTR! Good ol’ days of Need for speed and gran turismo.
@jaredfromsubway1733
@jaredfromsubway1733 Жыл бұрын
That srt pacifica was badass by the way..
@Neo-Midgar
@Neo-Midgar Жыл бұрын
Idk why every car channel on KZfaq is making a Viper video at the same time, but I'm all for it.
@mannyrosado9887
@mannyrosado9887 Жыл бұрын
The Viper, and to a lesser degree, the Trans Am WS6 would be amazing cars in the current era. Will buy either if I had the money and opportunity.
@NFSBeast2365
@NFSBeast2365 Жыл бұрын
I will always remember the Dodge Viper. America’s super car
@coryanderson5210
@coryanderson5210 Жыл бұрын
Viper was a beast to tame. New cars are technologically tamed. Ford GT is the only car I have desired more.
@Fury-xt3so
@Fury-xt3so Ай бұрын
Real shit, thats like my dream car
@FonikosGazmas
@FonikosGazmas Жыл бұрын
One correction the V10 isnt a Lambo V10 but a V10 from a Ram of the era that was sent to Lambo for refinement....
@borla4491
@borla4491 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube Жыл бұрын
Lamborghini helped with the casting. Period. That's it. I'm soooooo tired of the bs that Lamborghini had to help chrysler with anything. If it wasn't fir chrysler that Italian crap company wouldn't exist
@FonikosGazmas
@FonikosGazmas Жыл бұрын
@peter Lambo got a V10 engine in 2003 after they were bought by VW. The only 8L V10 engine that was in production when the Viper was conecptualized/designed was the Magnum V10. The Magnum V10 is also 8L like the original Viper V10.
@ericarntson2035
@ericarntson2035 Жыл бұрын
There are virtually no common parts between the Viper and the Ram engines. The blocks are different, the heads are different, the intake and exhaust manifolds are different... about the only common thing is the bore spacing and the fact that they are both 2-valve pushrod V10's. The Lambo V10 is 100% different though. Much smaller and DOHC.
@TheDeepDiveLLC
@TheDeepDiveLLC Жыл бұрын
I really hope they bring it back having seen this video.
@JH-Carbon
@JH-Carbon Жыл бұрын
They won't
@charlesli6751
@charlesli6751 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that'll work, just like protesting then all of a sudden the war ends. God you people are dumb
@vitreo1363
@vitreo1363 Жыл бұрын
Maybe third time's the charm?
@davidpearson7009
@davidpearson7009 Жыл бұрын
1st time I had ever heard of a 10 cylinder engine (besides 1 or 2 Audi I believe). Though 12 cylinders were normal and eventually the W16. No one ever seemed to catch on to it.
@GLHS592
@GLHS592 Жыл бұрын
Another reason for the Viper's demise was the price of the 5th gen. in comparison to earlier Vipers. It jumped $40k-$50k over the 4th gen. What people didn't realize was how much better the 5th gen. Viper is. It is a spectacular car where the ealier generations were uncomfortable and harder to drive. The build quality is better too. It was probably the best value performance car even at the original MSRP. Current prices are finally showing that people have finally realized what the 5th gen. Viper is.
@lotus956
@lotus956 Жыл бұрын
If you have any hold on to them. I can see them being way more than a Corvette in future due to rarity also.
@metalpunk1234
@metalpunk1234 Жыл бұрын
​​@@lotus956 almost similar to the dodge stealth, which peoples do have a hard time finding them and they also never made production either at the end of the 90s. I COULD BE SO WRONG but bare with me though.
@vitreo1363
@vitreo1363 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a textbook case of "too little, too late". It's only a value if you dismiss the safety regulations it failed to comply with, which would've made it more expensive if they fixed them.
@amondavis
@amondavis Жыл бұрын
No I am not happy that that automotive company did what they did. I wish they could have fixed everything and couldn't kept the Viper going around for years after years after years I couldn't kept pushing it forward to. See the envelope of what they could have done with the Viper. That is one of my all time favorite cars that I would love to own and always. I'm gonna search to try to find one
@ericcarabetta1161
@ericcarabetta1161 Жыл бұрын
I wish they gave the Viper a proper send off, and gave it the "Hellcat treatment", adding a couple of turbos and a supercharger. They easily could have sold a 1000hp Final Edition.
@TheCluesRNTheBlues
@TheCluesRNTheBlues Жыл бұрын
Well, they are developing a kit to put the Hellcat engine in the Viper. This was after Throtl managed to put that engine in a Viper.
@cplbulletsponge
@cplbulletsponge Жыл бұрын
When I met the chief engineer of the Viper motor, he wanted the car to go out with a bang on its final year by developing a supercharger for it. He said it was simple and the motor can more than take it. Unfortunately the execs shut down the idea.
@jameslee4328
@jameslee4328 Жыл бұрын
​@James Parker that's a downgrade. My 97 gts makes 700 at the tire on 93 pump at 10 pounds. Hellcats make like 600 at the tire. People just don't know much on the v10. There's all motor vipers making 900 at the tire on e85 with sequential trans...
@ericcarabetta1161
@ericcarabetta1161 Жыл бұрын
@@jameslee4328, I don't mean do a Hellcat motor swap, that would be sacrilege. But, if a tuner like Calvo can get 3000hp from it, I figure the factory could easily have done 1000+, with a warranty. Maybe they can revive the Viper as an EV to compete with the Rimac and Lotus Evija.
@Gunship888
@Gunship888 Жыл бұрын
There are ugr vipers pushing 3300+hp with a twin kit. Should just twins it and truly go out on a bang. Call it the pit viper
@garbageman3992
@garbageman3992 Жыл бұрын
not only was the viper one of the best track cars ever made, one of the best looking cars ever made, but its motor was making hellcat power NA! if you wanted the fastest possible car you get a viper, build it, and boost it cuz that 8.4l could handle like 1500 hp no problem. thats one of the saddest things about it going, you cannot get the amazing 8.4l anymore and that motor could handle so much power while having a flat power curve because of its 2 valve per cylinder.
@ckelly9747
@ckelly9747 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Viper over a challenger all day anytime. Looks a whole heck of a lot better. 😍 it was ultra clique and bold as hell.
@sp4604
@sp4604 Жыл бұрын
the last gen viper and the 2005 Ford GT are so incredible to look at from all angles
@KingofKingz8224
@KingofKingz8224 Жыл бұрын
The Viper died due to the fact that it didn't sell, because the only option available was manual. So it was killed by the Corvette. If they had made an automatic version it would have sold WAY better than it did. The amount of people that can actually drive manual is literally abysmal.
@bsmitley
@bsmitley Жыл бұрын
The best part about the car is the 3 pedals and engagement of truly using the vehicle.... Not just pushing the pedal down. While I agree, that's probably the real factor, it's the heritage of the car. And I'm happy they didn't budge on that. And honestly one of several reasons I don't see the Viper ever returning. It was a good run, and I think it's long term value (financially and emotionally) will continue to increase as vehicles continue to move away from driver focused vehicles.
@KingofKingz8224
@KingofKingz8224 Жыл бұрын
@@bsmitley True, but by offering both options the car would definitely still be around, at least until the end of this year since Dodge decided to kill it self by going EV and scrapping all V8+ engines at the end of the 2023 model year.
@ShovelMonkey
@ShovelMonkey Жыл бұрын
What kind of moron can't drive a manual? That requires a special level of lame.
@Danny10_01
@Danny10_01 Жыл бұрын
Aut, hell nah. For a Sports car its better to have a manual bc that’s the only way to enjoy them. Auto is good bc it’s faster but I don’t see much fun on them when racing.
@grp5ltdot2024
@grp5ltdot2024 9 ай бұрын
viper's manual transmission was something different, it was able to kill dct's idk how@@Danny10_01
@raymaharaj4502
@raymaharaj4502 5 ай бұрын
The Viper will NEVER "be gone"! From 1995 The Dodge Viper rt/10 has been an American icon. It will NEVER be gone, or forgotten!
@pjcornell9691
@pjcornell9691 Жыл бұрын
I owned 2 Vipers back in my 30's! I owned a 1994 Red RT/10 and a 2002 Red GTS. Unfortunately the 2003 redesign by Mercedes alienated those of Us who bought Vipers. 2003-2010 Gen 3 and Gen 4 Vipers are the years We i felt abandoned by Chrysler in my love for Viper. In 2013 Viper Gen 5 was fantastic to me but too expensive and poor reliability lost me as a customer!
@il-ma.le.
@il-ma.le. Жыл бұрын
3:38 that glasses guy in a sweater has a very very long list of crimes against the automotive. And the SRT Viper it's a miracle in itself it went produced under him, since it was internal competition for Ferrari.
@RonaldSimilien
@RonaldSimilien Жыл бұрын
The last gen Viper was actually in development without his knowing. The story behind how the last Viper came forth almost cost Ralph his job.
@lifeofddg_
@lifeofddg_ Жыл бұрын
If they put the 8 speed auto in the viper as a option it would sell way better
@Viper3048
@Viper3048 Жыл бұрын
True, but that wasn't the purpose of the Viper. If you can't drive a manual, you don't deserve to drive a Viper. That's the way it was looked at.
@DiaperSNiFFER
@DiaperSNiFFER Жыл бұрын
@@Viper3048 but a viper has the most boring sounding v-10 too
@DiaperSNiFFER
@DiaperSNiFFER Жыл бұрын
@@Viper3048 but it was the worlds biggest production displacement engine ever put in a production company
@fly1ngpapaya
@fly1ngpapaya Жыл бұрын
​@@DiaperSNiFFER 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@Shoota027
@Shoota027 Жыл бұрын
make sure that 8 speed was a zf that can handle 1.5x more power then it came with
@barrydraper
@barrydraper Жыл бұрын
Straight line Dodge muscle car just got its a$$ kicked by a plaid battery car. Yet nothing comes close to "real racing" like the Viper did. That was a very special car. There will always something special about classic hand-built halo cars, like the Viper, the Ford GT, the Lexus LFA and a few others. These cars just get under the skin of the Lambos, Ferraris & Mclarens of the world.
@serga7486
@serga7486 Жыл бұрын
Leave it to dodge to screw up the viper. And then we get the electric charger
@mickjames666
@mickjames666 Жыл бұрын
Dodge is crap
@deceased._
@deceased._ Жыл бұрын
Vipers getting popularity now that they're gone, prices gon be wild, I still need to buy me one y'all 😂
@jasons.6240
@jasons.6240 4 ай бұрын
As the original owner of a 2013 Gen 5 Viper, I can tell you that no other car I have owned or driven compares to it. While the Demon is a fantastic car, unless you know cars very well, the Demon looks just like the thousands and thousands of other Challengers on the road. There is no confusing my Viper with someone's six-cylinder grocery getter. Besides, they only produced around 700 Gen 5 Vipers the first year and around the same each year until 2017. So, there are very few out in the wild.
@RelentlessBR
@RelentlessBR Жыл бұрын
I say let the Challenger and charger have it only up to the hellcat and then have the viper a tier above
@hustle_simmons
@hustle_simmons 3 ай бұрын
The viper is just an overall crowning achievement in design. Seriously the artists behind its design as well as the engineers pulled together some beautiful designs. I really hope it comes back some day.
@spleencare1987
@spleencare1987 Жыл бұрын
If you want the short version Basically they canceled it because of the mpg and the fact that there was no space for airbags.
@Fodder916
@Fodder916 Жыл бұрын
Well y’all jinxed saying the viper is better than the challenger and charger (even though it is they’re all cool) now we won’t have any of em
@ryan335
@ryan335 Жыл бұрын
They need to come out with a viper engine Challenger already
@Gunship888
@Gunship888 Жыл бұрын
Too bad they won’t give the viper the hellcat treatment - ugr vipers and others push 3300hp, why not make a twin turbo edition that makes 1500 hp and call it the pit viper as it’s final bang. Or something similar you get my drift
@Nate_the_Nobody
@Nate_the_Nobody 6 ай бұрын
2:30 That is a hell of an understatement lol, I've only ever seen three in the wild the entire 30 years I've been on this planet.
@jevonbotha5669
@jevonbotha5669 Жыл бұрын
As an owner of over 34 vipers, I say bring it back.. gen1 to 5,.,(albeit models XD) seriously bring back the VIPER!!!
@joezimmaro3630
@joezimmaro3630 Жыл бұрын
Bullshit
@mk-19memelauncher65
@mk-19memelauncher65 Жыл бұрын
Dude what
@vitreo1363
@vitreo1363 Жыл бұрын
@@mk-19memelauncher65 Hey… Hot Wheels count, right?
@hectorguajardo6392
@hectorguajardo6392 Жыл бұрын
I see the viper was a product of his own time for when the charger and challenger came in. It brought a piece of that action to the people not to the select few.
@NXT_LVL
@NXT_LVL Жыл бұрын
Yet the Demon/Hellcat line wasn't really out before the Viper went out for the SECOND time, due to emissions, livability and practicality; things that caused it to get out of production the first time.
@ffake714
@ffake714 Жыл бұрын
The hellcat came out in 2015 and the viper went out in 2017 while the demon came out in 2018
@ffake714
@ffake714 Жыл бұрын
The viper actually went out because of side airbag requirements
@DragonStar524
@DragonStar524 Жыл бұрын
The RX-7, LFA, and the Viper. All masterpieces no one gave a chance. Such a shame.
@airforceveteran71
@airforceveteran71 Жыл бұрын
Back in 2011 I was looking around for a Viper for sale but the prices were way over what I was considering...then one day I spotted an alternative on a used car lot...a 2005 Ram SRT-10 with the Hurst 6-speed. We took it out for a half-hour cruise, came back and I asked...ok where do I sign???...snapped it up for $29K and still have it today and I never get bored driving it.
@jimdevlin4949
@jimdevlin4949 Жыл бұрын
Great video❤
@ericarntson2035
@ericarntson2035 Жыл бұрын
I'll take a Viper over a Challenger every day of the week. Don't care what engine is in the Chally, I'm not a fan of boats. I'll take a Viper over a Vette for that matter, too.
@jamesbutterfield9260
@jamesbutterfield9260 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to have a gen 5 viper even a base model is fine but god they just stay expensive. Gen 4 or 3 is nice but rather have that better interior. Hopefully they go down to an affordable price eventually
@snakebitten6967
@snakebitten6967 Жыл бұрын
Video is your interpretation. The truth is the airbag situation that you referenced coupled with poor sales because of the wrong person put in charge of its marketing killed it. That person sent beat up Vipers with mismatched tires to magazine shootouts. Lots of bad press due to that before the car even went on sale. Who does that with a new model? SRT tried to take the Viper upscale but had no business sense, the dealer infrastructure etc to truly support the upscale Viper. They aimed at Porsche, Ferrari and so on but had little idea how to market the car. It was doomed from the start because they had incompetent people in marketing and dealer networks. Had nothing to do with the hellcats etc. Got to love how easily people are misled these days.
@mrbane8721
@mrbane8721 Жыл бұрын
The didn't offer an automatic or an entry level V8. Its would have been competitive with the corvette market if they did. An ideal lineup: A 6.4 Liter R/T trim (500hp) A Hellcat powered GTS (700+hp) A V10 ACR model for track work (650 hp)
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube Жыл бұрын
Then you miss the entire point of the viper.
@mrbane8721
@mrbane8721 Жыл бұрын
@youtube sucks what viper? Its been out of production for years lol
@Kai-ik9of
@Kai-ik9of Жыл бұрын
@@mrbane8721lmao
@vitreo1363
@vitreo1363 Жыл бұрын
@@Welcometofacsistube True… But sometimes you have to compromise on some things so that you can have what you want, ie, in this case, a continued production of the Viper. No reason they couldn't offer both MT and AT versions for those who wanted it. Better than having no Viper because nobody is buying.
@aakashjadham7271
@aakashjadham7271 Жыл бұрын
Amazing Video......❤❤❤
@LeaveChildrenAlone
@LeaveChildrenAlone Жыл бұрын
There was a show in the 90s named Viper all about this car...wish I could find the episodes.
@bcdieselsofficial
@bcdieselsofficial Жыл бұрын
I loved the Yellowstone reference!
@zzmr_stretchzz8772
@zzmr_stretchzz8772 Жыл бұрын
viper is literally the most underrated supercar for some reason, why underrated well sales say enough.
@kgeographicz__6033
@kgeographicz__6033 Жыл бұрын
Viper been in so many racing games . Test drive 6 was when I first saw the blue viper with white stripes line
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 9 ай бұрын
The most unforgiving, unapologetic and spartan supercar there was. It demands respect as soon as you get in, and it tells you straight up: "Don't be a cocky fool, because I WILL kill you'
@g4do
@g4do Жыл бұрын
If they had made a hellViper , the Viper would still be here. 840 hp instead of 640 , with better downforce and stickier tires sounds like winning to me
@RonaldSimilien
@RonaldSimilien Жыл бұрын
What you are looking for is the 9.0 liter V10 from prefix that makes 730hp to the wheels N/A
@jeidynbeaulieu1258
@jeidynbeaulieu1258 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact the rear window de frost on the viper would break the window sometimes
@StockCarGuy
@StockCarGuy Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest issue was safety/livability & not acceptable to the vast majority. pretty much a sports car for 1% of the population. It was, unfortunately, a little too expensive, and too close to cost to European competitors despite being faster. I could care less about the safety but wish the car was a little cheaper, hopefully sometime in the future it'll be revived, most likely as an ev or hybrid. Until then... R.I.P. my dream car :/
@xXturbo86Xx
@xXturbo86Xx 7 ай бұрын
A little too expensive? As compared to what? Dodge Chargers? If anything, they sold them way too cheap. They downmarketed them because the "average Joe" American thought they were just simple sportscars that they SHOULD be able to afford. And that's what made most of it's potential buyers lose interest. It might sound crazy, but people often judge something by it's price. At 100.000 it was cheaper than most of it's European counterparts, and those sold a LOT more. Why? Because they were marketed as SPECIAL cars, for a certain group of people, who LOVE expensive, special things. Selling something to the 1% at a low price, is almost an insult.
@StockCarGuy
@StockCarGuy 7 ай бұрын
@@xXturbo86Xx i’m not disagreeing, you gotta look at the vast majority.. the viper isn’t a normal friendly sports car.. Majority of people aren’t going to be attracted to a car that’s known to be dangerous and lacked safety until the 5th gen came out.. It also only came in a manual, which debunks at least 90% of the population cause most can’t drive stick.. I mean when you look at the philosophy of the viper it was never intended to sell, if anything dodge was actually losing money making the viper, it’s a halo car, which most halo cars fail.. It boosted Dodges reputation to make more hellcats & scat packs, but when comparing the viper to other sports cars.. only offering a manual and lacking many features despite its dominance in performance, it was bound to fail financially…. i agree and i believe the price is worth it, which it is since vipers have shot up in value since the last one was built in 2017..
@CynHicks
@CynHicks Жыл бұрын
In modern times the Viper is the only Dodge muscle/sports car I care for. I'm way more Camaro, Corvette, Mustang ect... fan of the 3. The Viper though! What's not to love about it!? It's one of the best American muscle cars ever made, hands down, no discussion... Period. I'd say that Dodge should be extremely proud but considering they had such a jewel on their hands but couldn't figure out how to help keep it on the road for very long... such a shame. The Viper team on the other hand deserve all of the congratulations. I'll take that back... It's unfair to Dodge.
@ditherdather
@ditherdather Ай бұрын
An 8 to 10 year old Viper GTS, GTC, SRT, or ACR still costs an eye watering more amount of money than a brand new Hellcat does right now. I've seen several listed for upwards of $300k, and saw one for almost $400k. I'm 44 and that was my dream car. 30 years later, I still have to value shop to find a gen that I really want, but can still afford....used.
@JimmyLoose
@JimmyLoose Жыл бұрын
Posi-traction is a trademarked General Motors name. Chrysler Corporation's name for a limited slip differential is Sure Grip.
@markforman2768
@markforman2768 Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly. The Viper won the 24 hours of the Nürburgring! Why a legend like the Viper needs to go? It's such a pity! Damn why I am not in charge to descide that? Never ever I would let it go that the Dodge Viper disapears! You can't compare the Dodge Viper to a classic American Muscle Car! The Dodge Viper is more, much more. The Viper which could win the 24 hours hadn't any asistents. It was only the man and the machine with it's pure power! And the sound of that 8 liter V10! I can't believe it. To me a world is broken and one of my favorite cars of my youth is gone and will disappear 😢
@harishankar.j6453
@harishankar.j6453 Жыл бұрын
love your videos
@mylittlepwny3447
@mylittlepwny3447 Ай бұрын
Looking to buy a Gen V here in the next year or two. It was my dream car in childhood.
@RedfishCarolina
@RedfishCarolina Жыл бұрын
Interesting how we are unhappy that Chrysler killed off the Viper to make room for HEAVY, EXRREME HORSEPOWER, CLUMSY HANDLINE high-displacement 2 door car.
@ryandubyah2345
@ryandubyah2345 Жыл бұрын
I love what Dodge did with the Challengers but along with a lot of other folks commenting here, the Viper is still king in my eyes
@Jayturbo_ENTJ
@Jayturbo_ENTJ Жыл бұрын
I got my 2013 Viper GTS at $40,000 off MSRP. But I sold it and now I regret because it's now $165,000!
@TheCarExp
@TheCarExp Жыл бұрын
I got that spinal tap joke 😂
@KingDeadMan
@KingDeadMan Жыл бұрын
2:18 Bro, someone tried to correct me about this shit on the last video you made about the Viper. "DoN't cAlL iT MiD eNgiNe, iT's FRonT mId EngInE." Like, no. If the engine is behind the front wheels or in front of the rear wheels, it is officially mid engine. Those Porsche 911s aren't mid engined, they're respectively rear engined.
@cplbulletsponge
@cplbulletsponge Жыл бұрын
Non car people dont go ooooooohhh aaaaaaaahhhh when they see a charger or challenger as they look like their base models. However, from a base to top line Viper you get the ooooooohs and aaaaaahs.
@FecalMattur
@FecalMattur Жыл бұрын
I've seen more Ferraris, McLarens, and Lambos (even just each) than Vipers.. and my eyes will still snap to attention to the Viper before those other 3. Have had the fortune of driving a gen 2 and a '16 ACR.. different experiences, but still phenomenal either way.
@cplbulletsponge
@cplbulletsponge Жыл бұрын
@FecalMattur so true. Even b4 I bought my Viper, I didn't get excited seeing those exotics cause I always see them at events.
@obungapyramid5525
@obungapyramid5525 Жыл бұрын
Crazy considering people are paying up to 100k for challengers and chargers
@RockyHoarderPictureShows
@RockyHoarderPictureShows Жыл бұрын
Ikr, imagine the monster you could build with 100k and a roller.
@Reppintimefitness
@Reppintimefitness Жыл бұрын
If it ever comes back it's over for all competition 💯
@itzyaboybugz
@itzyaboybugz Жыл бұрын
Fave car of all time greetings from dodge tampa
@timbaland916
@timbaland916 11 ай бұрын
As a kid, this was my dream car. 25 years later, Ill be the first guy in line to buy one if it ever comes back out again 🤞🏽.
@savneetsinghrairai6823
@savneetsinghrairai6823 10 ай бұрын
Demon is cool but viper V10 8.4 natural aspirated engine is my all time favorite super muscle 💪 car .....side exuasts that noise of monster without turbo spoiling is sensational ❤❤❤❤
@tys1646
@tys1646 7 ай бұрын
That demon sign on the engine 😍😍
@Shoota027
@Shoota027 Жыл бұрын
how they could revive the viper is to have viper branch off from dodge like ram did make different performance levels and toy around with the pricing to make them more affordable or competitively priced compared to the Corvette ,challenger, mustang etc
@Shoota027
@Shoota027 Жыл бұрын
@peter true but they could have done that with more affordable models
@craigbeckford4060
@craigbeckford4060 Жыл бұрын
While the Viper did sell overseas. The Challenge doesn't sell in any other market except the US. The car might be powerful but it is not exciting.
@HVLLOWS1999
@HVLLOWS1999 9 ай бұрын
Ive seen modded to hell ACRs hit 8.4 Seconds on a drag strip. My pops always said with enough money you can do anything with a car.
@LokiAquino-s3ij
@LokiAquino-s3ij Жыл бұрын
RIP Dodge Viper, truly the king of Kings
@synystervail9847
@synystervail9847 8 ай бұрын
As cool as the Hellcat is under the hood to me a car has to be stylish. But that's just my opinion and luckily there's cars out there for people with other opinions.
@esmeraldfox4299
@esmeraldfox4299 Жыл бұрын
Final a guy who explained the chrysler and lamborghini relationship in the viper v10 development correctly
@teamap78
@teamap78 9 ай бұрын
If I was to get one it would be the 2014-2019 body style 👍🏽
@thomasboswell638
@thomasboswell638 Жыл бұрын
Its also the fact that the viper never included an automatic transmission like the demons and hellcats which personally i want a manual to go fast with
@paulvolkmann2979
@paulvolkmann2979 Жыл бұрын
Those bananas came at you because Pos-I-Traction was GM, MOPAR is Sure-Grip
@stevenekdahl7124
@stevenekdahl7124 Жыл бұрын
The Viper is one of the coolest cars ever made 😎
@SpiderCollector000
@SpiderCollector000 8 ай бұрын
The Vipers up to the last gen did not have traction control, and ALL had manual transmissions.. There have been conversions to automatic done, and that would be a different ballgame against a Demon even. They didnt even have ABS for a while. There are videos on KZfaq of turbo setups with Vipers topping over 250 mph with one of them being a 2006, but they usually have anywhere from 1200 to 1500hp. I am hoping to get a gen 4 viper myself, but I may end up with a Gen 3 being 2005-2006 and I will use the Gen 4 hood on mine, so that I can get one for $50k with low miles when I am ready. I almost jumped on a 2008 4th gen for 65k about 10 years ago, and went with a Lexus instead but wishing I got the Viper. I have to wait another 2-3 years, but I am aiming to get one in the future, and will drive it respectfully since its easy to get into trouble with one, with one being the law, and the other even bigger issue is getting bit by the snake and wiping out. It takes a talented driver to extract all you can out of it, but I would never try anything unless I was able to take it to the track. Otherwise it would be a neat cruiser for me in the real world full of Vettes.. I wanted a Vette originally but it seems like everyone has them. I am not into Dodge products, and while the Hellcats and Demons are nice, their only product I am in to is the Viper. The values of these cars will only balloon as time passes.
@nelsonminator
@nelsonminator 10 ай бұрын
Now you see a Challenger everywhere... I bet the Viper is making a comeback... lets hope they stick with the style of the Gen 2 Gts
@DarkClosetOfTheMind
@DarkClosetOfTheMind Жыл бұрын
I love my Gen 1 Viper, it's one of the few cars that is respected by all car enthusiasts: tuners, classic cars, euro, etc.
@BlackCell29.99
@BlackCell29.99 5 ай бұрын
Always wondered what happened
@quercus5398
@quercus5398 Жыл бұрын
With Ferrari,Maserati,Alfa under the same umbrella,it had to go------too expensive,not enough buyers! Nice car though!
@jermason8594
@jermason8594 Жыл бұрын
The viper needed a automatic transmission in it because the old Dude's that could actually afford it could drive it.. you just get to a certain age and you just don't care about shifting gears.. that's why the Corvette kills it with the old guy's
@RonaldSimilien
@RonaldSimilien Жыл бұрын
Thats the very reason they didnt give it an automatic. They didnt want their halo car to be associated with old people.
@jermason8594
@jermason8594 11 ай бұрын
@@RonaldSimilien and that's why it's gone.. that's just stupid math.. and that's why dodge is dieing right now and has been bought by so many foreign companies lately.. hell Chrysler not even in the name anymore... that's sad
@Atipat12
@Atipat12 Жыл бұрын
AWESOME 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@2264ish
@2264ish Жыл бұрын
I always thought not putting a hemi in the Viper was its downfall.
@NeedForSpeed.2004
@NeedForSpeed.2004 Жыл бұрын
The massive V10 was what made the Viper a good portion of what it was
@N1ght2098
@N1ght2098 Жыл бұрын
Imop they should've brought the viper back one last time and turned it up to 11 like they did with the challengers and chargers. Slap 2 fat twin spinners or a massive Supercharger in it and push it to 1000+. Give it an auto and manual option with the ACR track version and GTS just like normal. That would further solidify the vipers insane potential.
@crodrc51able
@crodrc51able 7 ай бұрын
Dodge was not “forced” to cancel the Viper, one of the greatest cars to exist thanks to Lee Iacocca. They just pansied out, just like they’re doing now with cancelling the V8’s for battery crap.
@inquizative44
@inquizative44 10 ай бұрын
The Challenger is essentially a restomod. Modern day cars essentially look the same. Dodge simply restomoded the muscle car 1970's Challenger with a combination of modern day technology and 70's styling cues.
@intuitive7274
@intuitive7274 Жыл бұрын
Chrysler has been bought and sold so many times. Each time it's sold people come in with a new idea on what should be built. So it's the owner who decides what happens. Now it's about electric. Which will fail as well. Nothing electric will ever be mainstream
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